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THE OLD GUARD 2
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Who did you kill to get your url lmao
lmao let’s not make the investigation easy for the fbi aghdjk
i coined the ship name andromaquynh and said it enough times with enough unhinged conviction that the handful of tumblr gays back then just accepted it i guess. so let’s just say the ancient sapphic forces saw my grief, my unholy mourning after deleting my firstborn @justqueerious, and took pity on me. they granted me the url andromaquynh as a divine consolation prize
i paid in blood and brainrot. they answered.
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good to know my andromaquynh brainrot has remained violently consistent for five years straight (justqueerious my first born my beloved.. what have i done)
we already talked about andromache wearing quynh’s necklace. then there’s the abandoned mine safe house where andromache stash her and quynh’s old stuff.
but director gina prince-bythewood and costume designer mary vogt said long live the immortal wives so let’s talk about andy’s shirt.

at first it just look like a simple black t-shirt (also because charlize theron ma’am your face is very distracting i couldn’t look at anything else) but it wasn’t just a plain black shirt. it’s a shirt with a dragon print.


i could be wrong, but i wouldn’t put it past costume designer mary vogt. this legend doesn’t just throw-in costumes for fun. this queen is all about details
How did you create the costumes for the other characters?
Nile (played by KiKi Layne) starts off as a marine. And she doesn’t do it in her own clothes, because even her uniform is given to her. And then Andy gives her something of hers, simple in appearance, like a T-shirt and some jeans. But we wanted to give her a little bit of what she liked, so we created this Janis Joplin T-shirt that you can see in the movie and that was from a concert that the singer used in 1968, which in turn suggested that Andy was there.


so yeah. i think it is safe to say that andromache the scythian doesn’t just wear clothes, but wear memories
#andromaquynh#i still fcking flinch at the sight of dEaCtiVatED#the guilt is biblical#the old guard meta#andy x quynh#immortal wives#the old guard#charlize theron#veronica ngo#mary vogt
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Your necklace analysis back in 2020 is what made me realize its importance and I love that you were right and that it was actually acknowledged on screen. Felt like Quynh was throwing divorce papers in Andy’s face lol
STOPPP this means so much omg 😭😭 the fact that my 2020 brainrot ramblings about that blink-and-you-miss-it necklace actually meant something in the end?? vindication. sapphic justice. god it really did feel like quynh pulled up from the bottom of the ocean specifically to serve andy divorce papers and go, “nope. there will be no settlement. i’m taking that shit back.” LMAOOO
also the way she snatched that necklace off andromache’s neck?? (PAIN. I CRIED.) and andy being absolutely wrecked after??? there’s so much gravity to it all they could make a whole-ass standalone film and call it The Necklace and i would eat it up with a fork and knife and lick the plate clean
#asks#andromaquynh#charlize theron#the old guard 2#andromache the scythian#andy x quynh#quynh#veronica ngo#ngo thanh van#immortal wives#justqueerious
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What I mean is, maybe this is the perfect time for Quynh to be back.
THE OLD GUARD 2
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charlize theron channeled every goddamn lesbian atom in her soul past present and ancestral every single time andromache breathed in quynh’s direction or when even just her name or memory was at play god it wasn’t acting it was invocation and for that she has earned my eternal undying sapphic reverence
#the old guard#the old guard 2#andromaquynh#andromache the scythian#andy x quynh#charlize theron#quynh#veronica ngo#netflix#ngo thanh van#immortal wives
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Are you gonna do what you do best and fight by my side? No. You will fight by my side.
THE OLD GUARD 2
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NO BECAUSE THIS. THIS IS THE MOMENT I ABSOLUTELY FLATLINED
the way andromache’s hand moves before she even processes it, like her body is just wired to respond to quynh’s pain. it’s instinctive. it’s pure muscle memory. that’s devotion sharpened by centuries of familiarity, of knowing each other down to the bone. it’s instinct born from lifetimes of looking out for each other, of protecting, of losing and still reaching anyway
and the way andy pulls back the second it hits her.. the moment she remembers where they stand now, that she doesn’t even deserve to touch quynh anymore. and quynh. oh god. she shifts, gives andy even more space. like she’s saying okay. like she’s letting her see. she lets andy care for her. lets her be close. and that alone feels like forgiveness wrapped in silence
even after everything. after 500 years of suffering at the bottom of the ocean, after the rage, after finding out andy stopped searching. gave up. broke the one promise that mattered
and still they fall into this quiet, sacred gravity between them like it’s the most natural thing in the world. like nothing’s changed even if everything has.
it’s so devastatingly soft. so intimate. this is a love story etched into blood and memory and grief. this is immortal sapphic pain at its PEAK.
i’m not okay. i am physically. spiritually. emotionally. devastated. Good.Bye.
gif @thewisewill80sbyers
#why would i write something that emotionally obliterate me every time i read them back#truly the architech of my own destruction#i am not well#andromaquynh#immortal wives
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OH. Hey @netflix wanna explain the ef up?
The English sub for the Vietnamese at this part is completely wrong. She 100% did not say "I curse you for all your lifetimes." That also has absolutely no emotional impact between them.
Instead what Quỳnh actually said was specifically a callback to their conversation earlier. At around 43 min mark, Quỳnh said, "You once told me the only thing you fear is being alone."
In the scene above, Quỳnh said, "Traitor. You will die alone and in darkness!" AND THE ENGLISH SUB COMPLETELY ELIMINATED THE INTRICACY OF HER DIALOGUE!
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My baby never fret none About what my hands and my body done
#god even the word love doesn’t feel sufficient for what andromache and quynh have#what do you even call a that kind of belongingness that kind of devotion amd familiarity the kind that chooses each other#century after century#fuck#andromaquynh#immortal wives#andy x quynh
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THE OLD GUARD 2 || dir. by Victoria Mahoney
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I searched. I did. I searched for centuries— But you stopped.
THE OLD GUARD 2 (2025)
CHARLIZE THERON as Andromache of Scythia VERONICA NGÔ as Quỳnh
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i think what’s most baffling to me about tog 2, is that the first film already laid out the thread for the sequel. all they needed to do was follow though and expand. yet, they completely bypassed that though line, not for something better or more interesting, but rather something so unconvincing, unnecessary, and silly, that it’s making me wonder what, exactly, the people behind this franchise think the draw is.
because the ‘why’ of their immorality was never it. and watching as the film sloppily contradicted and undermined its own premise with patchy pacing, uneven tonality, a shockingly insipid twist, and a shallow, nothing of an antagonist that did little more than slink in and out of the narrative while reciting tepid lines of cartoonish villainy, i couldn’t help but wish i was watching the sharper, more coherent film that was trapped in the shadows of this one.
a film that would have focused on quynh’s return as a sympathetic antagonist, picking up on the pieces they teased in the first film and enhancing the narrative by exploring her rage and grief and adjustment to this new reality; how that reshaped her relationships with the guard now. i wanted to see andy, joe, and nicky grapple with the return of their old friend, who is not quite the same woman, because she is enraged and lonely and in so much pain that she’s determined to tear down the world and them too, if that’s what takes to satiate her hurt, but still someone they love. i wanted to see how nile (and to lesser extent booker) who’ve been sharing this woman’s distressingly furious dreams, felt as they were faced with haunting figure of their nightmares made flesh. how she upended nile's new worldview because if this can happen to quynh maybe it can happen to her and what does that mean? how despite all that she still wants for quynh to be okay, if only for the peace of the others. i wanted to know how andy handled the guilt, relief and love (because in this version there would be no weird hays code no homo-ing of their obvious romantic relationship) as she is confronted with a quynh who feels abandoned and betrayed and wants little to do with her and the mortal world at large—andy’s ‘endless war’. i wanted to watch a film as evocative and emotionally resonant as the first, which was not without it’s own issues, but at least tried. not this flaccid mess that was so preoccupied with flaunting typical popcorn flick aesthetics and overlong action sequences (with few exceptions, like during quynh's fights with andy and nile) that it let the characters and relationships they’d so beautifully built up before, just fall to the wayside.
because what, actually, was the point of any of this? the world building that wasn’t, the new immortals with zero emotional impact (didn’t mind tuah but he didn’t need to be immortal, and disco’s lame ass absolutely didn’t need to be a thing at all) whose existence only eroded the scope of the immortal life/journey, and the story itself?
i've already gone into how badly nile was done in another post, but imma say it again because i truly can’t believe it. how did she go from the heart of the fist film to a magical totem in the second? all so some yt lady can be shoved into the story oh please. and what’s more is my girl was largely ignored outside of that and given nothing to work with that was in service of herself. she got exactly one second to react to her new power and then the end. what????
why was booker’s arc so cyclical and shallow? and framed as a worthy sacrifice when it was nothing of the sort. why were joe and nicky so much in the background, especially when it came to quynh. it’s like the writers forgot that they knew and cared for her too. because in what version of this movie does them not even having an opinion of her return make any sort of sense? just so lazy and disingenuous.
especially when i think of of how quynh's & andy's reunion was so measured and sanitized and abbreviated. all that tidy talking around their relationship and what they actually mean to each other, that was actually just shameless homophobia. it was as if the studio thought if they'd fully acknowledged the depth of these women’s romantic feelings, that they had been a couple and not simply friends, the film would've collapsed upon itself. which it sort of did, but definitely not because of some lesbian implications. if anything their relationship was one of the few moments of emotional resonance, it just wasnt enough. and i hate that i wasn’t even surprised, that i was initially so taken by the fact that quynh was out of the sea and they were even having a conversation at all to see the lack for what it was. because the representational disparity of gay relationships, even between men and women, has always been obvious. from narrative perspective to audience investment. and you don’t need an advanced degree in lesbianism to tell, just one glance at ao3 will tell you that lol. but here, because that connection went unaddressed, even as i enjoyed watching their chemistry and tension, i couldnt help but feel that something was missing (how did they go from feuding to flirting???????? why skip over that?) that their reconciliation felt less like a revelation and more like a paltry appeasement.
and that’s the film in general. an overindulgence in uninspired action sequences at the cost of character work and development.
but it’s not all bad. i think the actors—van especially who was exhilarating to watch every time she appeared onscreen—elevated the material to the best of their ability. injected heart and intrigue and even fun, where they could. but there’s only so much even the most talented actors can do with an underwhelming, uninspired script.
and obviously i didn’t expect it to be exactly what i wanted because that would be impossible (and what fic is for) but i did expect, at the very least, some cohesive and thoughtful storytelling. not a showy, superficial mess that flattened its characters into vessels for a sequel that shouldn’t have been necessary and might never see the light of day.
literally just this.
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Why don’t we focus on how fucking good the Andromaquynh scenes were. They were Acting, it was a category 717373 yuri divorce, it was Andy’s gaze breaking the moment she learns Quỳnh has been found, it was the nuance of Quỳnh being so fucking lost in this time, with these people, with her old team which is probably so unrecognisable to her by now, how could they ever understand her anger?? Her pain??? She’s so lost and in pain and rightfully angry and lashing out, yet you can feel the tether that nonetheless ties her to Andromache.
It was Andy being Quỳnh-focused The Moment she gets Quỳnh’s message, it was that INSANE “Stop!!!”+forehead touch while Andy holds Quỳnh’s face, the gayest Rome has been since we got a far right government… Quỳnh could have had so much more, yes, but this is SO GOOD. Andy and Quỳnh have this incredible bond and their scenes made me feel like witnessing joenicky in tog1 for the first time again….!! The blanket moment!! Them teaming up at the end! IT’S YOU AND ME UNTIL THE END what is so hard to understand????
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everything could stay the same, or we could change it all.
#there will never be enough andromaquynh content#i will always be starving always aching always clawing at the walls for more
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— Iain Thomas, The City Rises and Falls
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WHY is andromache is still wearing quynh’s necklace in this scene like hello??? did we all not watch the same movie where quynh snatched that thing off her neck with 500 years of rage and heartbreak?? that was peak lesbian pain. that was one brutal moment that will permanently leave a scar on my sapphic soul. who let this happen who do i sue that necklace is plot-critical and in this scene she’s just… wearing it again like no. who’s in charge. i want names. this is continuity malpractice
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