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I feel like it's also important to acknowledge Lily isn't a 24-7 manipulation machine either. She's human, she contains a spectrum, sometimes she's nice or kind or thoughtful to the people she likes simply because she likes them (and sometimes it's because she wants them to like her back, which is a normal human thing to want). The problem is she refuses to learn to respect boundaries, and eventually it won't matter how much she likes someone if they're not giving her what she wants.

She lets her feelings dictate her 'objective' understanding of the world around her to such a degree that if she DOESN'T like you, if she thinks what you're doing is annoying or tiresome or frustrating or stupid, that's YOUR fault and you should do better. And if you don't...things can start to get ugly.

Yes, exactly!

Lily is not a cartoon villain, nor is she operating some 24/7 psychological chessboard where every move is deliberate and malicious. She’s human. That includes genuine warmth, genuine connection, even moments of insight or compassion. But like you said, the issue isn’t whether she can be kind: the issue is why, to whom, and how those moments are undermined by her broader patterns of behavior.

When Lily likes someone, she can be thoughtful. She can be generous. But as you observed, that’s often conditional, tethered to how much validation or agreement that person gives her in return. The moment someone deviates from her expectations by setting a boundary, asking a question she doesn’t want to answer, or simply not performing the loyalty she feels entitled to, that warmth curdles. Her entire perception of you can flip on a dime, and once she decides you’re in the “annoying” or “wrong” category, there’s very little room for redemption. That shift isn’t just personal, either: it becomes moralized. If she’s irritated or hurt by you, then you must have done something bad. You must be manipulative. Or a stalker. Or obsessed. Or in bad faith.

And because she interprets the world through the lens of her own emotional comfort, she genuinely seems to believe that anyone who makes her uncomfortable must be objectively wrong, not just in their behavior, but in their entire character. She collapses boundaries into personal betrayals, and disagreement into threat. That makes honest communication almost impossible. Because even if you bring an issue to her calmly, even if you're trying to be empathetic, she often reads it as an attack on her identity and reacts accordingly.

So yes, Lily’s not always manipulative, and sometimes she’s kind simply because she feels like it, just like anyone else. But because she’s unwilling (or unable) to do the hard work of distinguishing between her feelings and the reality of a situation, it means the kindness is always walking a tightrope. It’s easily revoked. And over time, that conditionality poisons the well. Because it teaches the people around her: you are only safe here as long as you keep her happy.

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How dare she equate my boy Arven to Kylo Ren, like wtaf?! Arven's main motivation is saving his dog, not killing people?!??

The whole Kylo Ren → Hunter → Astarion → eventual Arven (from Pokémon Scarlet and Violet) hate? Yeah, cishet white male sad boy… even though none of these characters are like each other in any way :/

She also hates N and Silver from Pokemon as well lol

Lily's whole perspective on media is basically: "Every single trope I enjoy is universally acclaimed and flawless. The ones I hate are crimes against God. If you like the wrong things, you are legally and ethically a bastard."

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It's Okay to Not Know Things

One of the most defining and damaging traits in how Lily engages with the world: she has a visible, persistent refusal to admit when she doesn’t know something. And the consequences of that ripple outward into every corner of her behavior, her rhetoric, and the way her community operates.

At the root of it is something very human: the fear of being seen as vulnerable or uninformed. But where most people respond to that fear by either learning or listening, Lily shuts it down entirely. In her world, not knowing isn't just uncomfortable, it’s unacceptable. She equates uncertainty with weakness. So rather than admit she’s out of her depth, she does something else: she pretends she isn’t.

She does this in a few very recognizable ways.

First, she reframes ignorance as insight. When she doesn’t understand a topic (whether it’s economics, neurodivergence, gender identity, or history), she doesn’t say, “I don’t know.” She says, “That’s not real.” Or “That’s stupid.” Or “Only idiots believe that.” It’s not just dismissive, it’s defensive. She bulldozes past any nuance and acts as though rejecting the premise entirely is the same thing as having a valid opinion.

You can see this clearly in moments like her recent comment about inflation, where she mocked people for believing inflation is the reason prices are high by saying, “Inflation is man-made,” as if that somehow invalidates its effects. That doesn’t just miss the point, it refuses the point. She doesn’t engage with the economic forces at play, doesn’t question how inflation works, doesn’t admit there’s a complex web of causes and consequences. She just declares the whole thing fake or irrelevant, and dares anyone to challenge her.

Second, she leans on tone over substance. Her confidence becomes the argument. It’s not about what’s being said, it’s about how decisively she says it. That certainty is seductive to people who are unsure of their own footing. So instead of cultivating curiosity, she cultivates a culture where people don’t question her, and in turn, don’t question themselves. And if someone does challenge her, she either talks down to them or implies they’re acting in bad faith.

Third, she treats questions or criticism as attacks, because to her, being corrected is synonymous with being humiliated. It doesn’t matter how gently it’s phrased, how factual it is, or how necessary. If someone corrects her or points out that she misunderstood something, she almost always responds with sarcasm, mockery, or condescension. She has to reassert dominance. Because again, the idea that she simply doesn’t know something isn’t on the table. She can’t just be wrong: the other person has to be stupid, or sensitive, or some kind of hater.

And finally, this bleeds directly into the culture she builds around herself. Her community internalizes this allergy to uncertainty. Disagreeing with her becomes risky. Asking her to clarify something becomes an act of defiance. So even when she’s clearly talking out of her depth, there’s no one around her who’s willing to say so. Or if there is, they’ve learned to stay silent. She doesn’t create spaces where growth is possible, because growth requires acknowledging that you don’t already have all the answers. And Lily can’t do that.

In the long run, this isn’t just a quirk or a personality flaw: it’s corrosive. It stunts dialogue. It undermines trust. It damages the people who look up to her. And it ensures that any time she speaks on a topic (especially one with real-world implications), she’s just reinforcing her own ego rather than actually contributing anything meaningful. Her resistance to saying, “I don’t know” isn’t strength. It’s insecurity masquerading as wisdom.

And it shows. Every time.

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"The Owl House fans will only care about a character's of they're a pasty angsty white boy"

CD in her Thank to Them video: "if I were Amity I'd find a new girlfriend"

Seems like your not your not very good at being sympathetic to POC either buddy :/

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I remember the days where she would normalise incest. When she did MLP In a Minute she would CONSTANTLY make incest jokes about Pinkie and Maud, and I as a teenager at the time didn't realise it was bad.

Like I bought into her "as long as they are consenting adults it's their own business" attitude on it ☠️

Is honestly impressive how oblivious Lily is to the fact that NomNomNami's games present some very unhealthy relationship.

In one of the games, the main character is in love with a demon that is draining their life force and at one point says: "i don't care if it hurts me, i don't regret summoning you". And Lily thinks that's cute.

Cause aparently a girl harming herself for a demon gf is cute and not worrying

And i don't even need to mention the loli, do i?

It's similar to how in Lily's ATLA fanfic the older sister of the Avatar is mindlessly devoted to her. She doesn't even mind when Niva has Earthbending panic attacks that break all her bones and refuses to let anyone else help.

But Lily's not oblivious. Lily knows exactly what these games are and what the game maker is into.

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You completely misunderstood and skipped over massive parts of the Black and White plot and Scarlet and Violet plot because you didn't like them.

It isn't even for debate, you know nothing about the character N because you even admitted you didn't like him from the get go and refused to talk to NPCs that gave you crucial information to understanding his character, then wanted his abuser to KEEP ABUSING HIM.

You completely misunderstood the Starfall Street Path for Scarlet and Violet and what ACTUALLY happened during that, misrepresenting it as just 'the bullied kids become the bullies' when that isn't what happened if you paid attention to what the characters were actually saying. You completely wrote off Arven as just 'Draco Sadboy' without any care or even mentioning what his plotline was about or why it mattered to the game (and I don't think you even referenced who his Parent is in the game and why that matters)

And that isn't even getting into how you ADMITTED you refused to do any of the side content on Silver in the Gen 2 games because it 'didn't interest you' then presented your own interpretation of his character as fact without even delving into them. How you CONSTANTLY misunderstand or just BS about mechanics in the game (of note, there is no increased damage from the opponent like Lily claims. She was using subpar pokemon with low BST and refused to change out her pokemon. The only game where that kind of statement is accurate was just Legends Arceus, which she refused to play because it had story)

Like. I watched the entire video. Twice. Once on my own and once with buddies. Lily does not understand pokemon outside of her own viewpoints that she refuses to change. And it has absolutely nothing to do with her being trans.

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When Communication Is Suppressed: How Lily’s Actions Prove Why Her Fans Don’t Speak Up

I had a personal experience with Lily that highlights exactly why her claims that "people don’t communicate with me" don’t hold any weight. It's ironic that she so often complains about people not telling her when something's wrong, because, in my experience, when someone does attempt to speak up or address an issue, they’re met with a response that makes communication impossible.

This particular situation involved a confrontation with a YouTuber who used to be a friend of Lily’s. This YouTuber tried to intimidate and smear me simply because I refused to do a voice call with her and followed a former mod. In an attempt to shut me down, she played a manipulative game, calling me out publicly for my choices. Rather than have a productive conversation, she tried to manipulate the situation to create an image of me as someone to be vilified.

And in what was supposed to be an innocuous moment of trying to vent about the situation on a stream, Lily took things too far. I had brought up my issue with this YouTuber in her stream chat, trying to air the frustration I had. Instead of listening or offering understanding, Lily responded by publicly dropping the YouTuber’s full name — and for some inexplicable reason, she dropped Sai’s full name too. This was done live on stream, with no consideration for privacy or the potential fallout.

The worst part? Because I was the one who brought up the issue in the first place, the viewers who recorded this event saw my name in the chat as the person who had “prompted” Lily to drop those names. I looked like I had somehow condoned this kind of privacy violation.

Let me be clear: I do not condone sharing people’s private information, especially without their consent. Privacy is something I hold dear, and it was infuriating to have Lily take it so carelessly, as if it didn’t matter. But because I never directly confronted Lily about it — and because I didn’t feel safe doing so — she never heard how upset I truly was.

This situation isn’t an isolated incident either. Lily often claims that people “don’t communicate” their issues with her and that she always finds out about problems too late. But the truth is that it’s impossible to tell her when you’re upset with her. Her community operates on an unspoken rule that you can’t speak up when something’s wrong. If you do, you’re walking on eggshells. People are terrified of offending her or risking a ban. So, instead of opening a dialogue about what’s really going on, the community builds this silent resentment and fear.

When you're part of Lily's space, you're expected to fall in line — and the price of speaking up is too high. Any attempt to assert yourself or express discomfort could result in mockery, public shaming, or worse, being ostracized from the community. That’s not a healthy space for communication. It’s an environment where people are conditioned to keep their mouths shut for the sake of avoiding conflict.

I never vocalized my frustration with Lily after that event because I knew what would happen if I did. I knew the backlash I would face. I knew she wouldn’t actually listen, and in turn, I’d risk being shut down or dismissed entirely. So, I stayed silent. And that’s what she doesn’t understand when she complains about no one speaking up. She’s created a culture of silence, a space where it’s safer to swallow your feelings than risk angering her.

Lily's behavior shows that communication is only valuable when it fits her narrative — when people are telling her what she wants to hear or agreeing with her. Anything that challenges that is either dismissed or punished, leaving people stuck in an uncomfortable limbo where they can’t express legitimate concerns. That’s why her claim that people don’t communicate with her is so hollow.

It's not that we don't want to talk — it’s that we're too scared to.

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Do you thinks there's a connection to Lily Orchard's lack of curiosity and the fact that she sees no problem with spoiling shows and movies for others?

Absolutely — and this is one of those behaviors that seems small on the surface, but reveals a lot about how Lily approaches media, discussion, and other people.

Spoiling shows or movies without warning, as Lily often does, shows a fundamental lack of consideration for the audience’s experience. And when that’s paired with her apparent lack of curiosity, it starts to make a lot more sense. Curiosity naturally makes someone interested in how stories unfold — it makes them value mystery, surprise, and thematic build-up. But Lily has demonstrated, time and again, that she views stories more as tools for moral messaging or vehicles for her own opinions than as experiences meant to be enjoyed or explored.

If you believe you already know everything worth knowing about a piece of media — or if you think your interpretation is the only one that matters — spoilers don’t seem like a big deal. In that view, the ending of a story is just a data point to wield, not something to preserve for emotional or narrative impact. And more importantly, the audience’s feelings about spoilers become irrelevant. If she’s not curious about how others might receive a story, or how they might emotionally engage with it, then their preferences don’t register.

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Nevermore anon.

SABERSPARK DID FUCKING WHAT?!

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Man I am so disappointed hearing about Saberspark 😔

I used to love watching his videos back when I was a teenager, and even when I stopped watching it was just due to moving on and I thought he seemed like a nice guy

That is very much NOT the case

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Why does lily hate apologies so much? I've very rarely seen her do it, most of the time she digs in her heels and asserts that whatever she said was deserved or actually not all that nasty of a thing to say . There was this one time in the discord where she went on a tirade and hurled insults at a server regular for following the rules (the one about not trying to dunk on "stalkers" and just sitting back and "enjoying the show"). Sure, she apologized the next day, albeit a broad apology that wasn't even aimed at the person she hurt. But she then nullified any meaning it had when she made an announcement stating that profuse apologizing would be punished after said server regular had the audacity apologize for angering her.

It's a pattern I've noticed, with the situation I explained above opening my eyes to it. She lashes out at and insults the people who literally pay her rent, gets mad at them for saying sorry, and 999 times outta 1000 refuses to say sorry herself for reasons unbeknownst to me.

I think I was actually there for the Discord tirade you mention! Not only that, if it's what I think you're referencing, I think I was one of the recipients of said tirade.

Around early-mid June of last year? I remember myself and another patron being scolded for "treating her life like a soap opera", and the next morning, a new rule was in place: No excessive apologizing.

Huh. I'd forgotten about that.

Anyway, to answer your question: Lily does have a long, noticeable pattern of avoiding genuine apologies whenever possible. When she does apologize, it’s usually extremely broad, not directed at anyone in particular, and often immediately undercut by her behavior afterward — exactly like the situation you described.

There are a few dynamics at play here. First, apologizing sincerely would mean acknowledging that she actually hurt someone, and that goes against the public image she tries to maintain: that she's always justified, always right, always the most "reasonable" person in any situation. If she admits fault openly, it undermines the authority she works hard to project over her community. Lily’s whole framework is built on maintaining control — and vulnerability threatens that control.

Second, there's the fact that she sees apologies themselves as weakness. You can even see it in how she treats others who apologize: she’ll snap at them, punish them, or accuse them of "making it about themselves." In her mind, to apologize is not an act of accountability, it’s an admission that you've "lost" some kind of personal battle. That's why, even after she lashes out, she often digs in her heels and reframes the situation so that she was the one wronged, or at least justified.

And you're right: it's the people who literally support her financially that she treats like this. People she owes gratitude and care to, and instead she meets them with suspicion, coldness, or outright disdain if they ever so much as inconvenience her emotionally.

Ultimately, Lily treats apologies — whether hers or others' — not as tools for reconciliation or healing, but as weapons in a control game. She demands submission without self-reflection, and that's why you'll almost never see her apologize properly, even when it’s painfully obvious to everyone else that she should.

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LILY THERE ARE BLACK PEOPLE IN STAR TREK

Like... it was notoriously pretty groundbreaking in that respect!

In her Media literacy video CD/Lily said that Klingons are Black rep in Star Trek.

Oh my god she does...

Oh that's so bad

CD.... CD they were just meant to be space orcs... they were just fantasy space orcs like vulcans were space elves... WHAT THE FUCK GIRL!

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I've been watching the video collection of Anthony Gramuglia's reactions to Lily Orchard/CD-Call's pokemon "review" and I just

It's baffling, truly baffling. I've never before seen such blatent contempt of a game. She claims to love pokemon yet completely refuses to engage with any of the games on their own terms.

She doesn't play the game in any of the clearly intended ways, she disregards all the mechanics, doesn't explore and will not change her strategy of using Gardevoir for almost everything and when things inevitably don't go her way, she claims the game is unbalanced. Whether or not the games actually are unbalanced becomes completely irrelevant if you aren't actually using the mechanics correctly, especially in the later games when she actually mods the game so she can continue using Gardevoir. Her "analysis" completely fails because she's explicitly not playing the game correctly. It's not the game doesn't teach you how to play it (in fact imo pokemon games can often be too hand-holdy) it's that she stubbornly refuses to use any other strategy and blames the game for her decision not to adapt.

That's not even talking about how she treats the story. Any of her myopic opinions on the quality of the storytelling is meaningless considering the way she skips dialogue as fast as possible. Again, she is simply not engaging with the game in an objective way.

I'm sorry for going off on a rant here, I just need to get this out of my head. I can't stop thinking about it, it's just so flagrantly wrong. Never have I seen someone treat something they claim to enjoy so hatefully.

Oh and her obsession with Gardevoir is so fucking creepy, I don't want to kinkshame here but it's so horribly uncomfortable. Especially when she calls her Ralts her child. Yikes.

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Lily LOVES hanging on the words of popular cis white men though despite what she says (Seth MacFarlane, Moviebob are other examples)

I was reading the post about her putting Lisa The Painful on her list because HBomberGuy likes it, and I always found it weird that CDLily hangs on every word he says.

Like, Harris is a likable guy, but as much as CDLily hates Cis White Men with an audience, you would think she would be allergic to his takes. Does she do it just to appear smarter than she actually is?

He's Popular and very leftist, it tracks

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I love the fact that Lily’s rebranding failed almost immediately. Not only did people called her out the second she changed her name, but she just…went and did the same bad stuff. Actually, she did WORSE. She posted rape porn, commanded her viewers to mass report her critics, and had her puppet slap an innocent straw man for suggesting that thirteen episodes make up a season, all in a way that’s more unsettling than actually funny. Lily may go by CD-Call now, but that does nothing but make her more the person people know her as.

Absolutely. Lily really thought she could just slap a new name on herself and all her past behavior would magically disappear, as if the internet doesn’t have receipts for everything. But the problem wasn’t her name—it was her. Rebranding only works when someone actually changes their behavior, but instead of improving, Lily doubled down. And what makes it even funnier is that the second she tried to rebrand, people immediately recognized her. There was no grace period, no slow realization—just instant recognition followed by a wave of people calling her out for trying (and failing) to escape her reputation. Because again, the name wasn’t the problem. If anything, “CD-Call” has just become another layer of her online infamy. Instead of distancing herself from her past, she’s just made herself even more recognizable as the same person people already stopped taking seriously.

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I had this saved since Fall last year, but this is very true to this day. Lily is STILL seething and pulling gripes towards Lizzy even today.

But we all know that Lizzy has almost never thought of Lily in the last couple years or so and I'm very happy for her that she's moved on and have fun earning money doing art and other things.

It's good to move on from your past troubles even if people in the past are trying to drag your name to the ground and you just couldn't care less about them.