#lily orchard

[lily-orchard-gossip-blog]

Lily's thoughts on bloodbending, if you haven't seen them.

Because somehow, Aang finding a way to painlessly deprive the Fire Lord of his bending is "permanently disabling someone".

It's not like Amon used bloodbending to do the exact same thing to his victims, right?

Wow.

So her supper cool and badass avatar, who we are told is supposed to not like violence, would rather use the most violent methods available instead of just learning to use Chi Blocking.

A method that literally disarms people temporarily, and has been shown to be more like a "taser" than blood bending.

Blood bending is more like bringing mustard gas to a knife fight.

As for energy bending being a "permanent disability", well... She's not totally wrong. Removing someone's bending is taking a part of themselves away. Like, imagine living with the ability to do something your whole life, only to have it take away?

You can still survive without it, it would just be an adjustment and should really only be used in extreme cases.

But regardless, you still don't need Chi Bending OR Energy bending to restrain or disable someone's bending. Like, just put them in a stone cage or freeze their bodies or, I don't know, use water bending to act as a rope restraint? There are a thousand ways you could restrain someone in a rather inventive way if you try hard enough.

(This of course applies only to normal circumstances, and not extreme ones like Aang had to deal with.)

Heck, we've seen it done in the show plenty of times. Blood bending is just lazy.

[pleasetiemyshoelaces]

So in terms of me covering Lily on youtube ive made a few decisions

I will not be speaking for anybody. Ill talk about Lily grooming her auidence, trying to normalize incest and the multiple times shes written CSEM

But I wont be putting other peoples stories in my mouth. Not unless im expressly asked to and given a script outline by the person themselves.

Im not "using" anybodys testimony, story, name, status or what have you.

Ill be speaking about what i know and whats been found online Given everything thats happened, im not going to assume the right to speak someone else's story.

[opinated-user]

Bro have you seen what an anon (either a lily fan or a lily alt account, I genuinely can't tell) sent to sai scribbles? 😭

"lily has been through more then most minorities, yet i see your just another white man trying to take advantage of a downtrodden person."

BRO WHAT 😭

Ah yes, the white woman who has shown a track record of ignoring/harrasing poc. The lady who didnt even bother to correctly check which tribe her grandfather was from, or connect with her claimed aunt, Lily who just starts appropriating a culture she is neither from nor understands. Lily "I just think making a white character black would make them inherently interesting." Orchard has experienced much more adversity than us discriminated folk, truly an unsung hero/s 😔🙏

tbf, LO does have some fans that one might call... unwise, so there's a chance that is a person who honest to god believe every single story that LO has told about her past, including the one about handing tampons to classmates during high school and being harassed by the principal for no reason at all. a person like that would even probably believe that Courtney was the one with incestious feeling despite the literal pile of evidence that is LO.

even then, to say that she went through more than most minorities is... a reach at best.

[sjbattleangel]

The Virgin Lily Orchard:

Sides with abusers

Lies about having Indigenous heritage

Is horrifically abusive to friends and family

Always sides with corporations

Writes awful revenge-fics out of spite

Fetishizes black women

Dismisses an entire cultural animation medium (anime) as "spankbait for perverts"

Wrote the worst writing advice ever

Has a pathetic vendetta against Rebecca Sugar for simply existing

Sends death threats to creators

Throws marginalized creators under the bus for not being "woke" enough

Lied about being a "highly sought-after writer" solely to spite Rebecca Sugar, ND Stevenson, Darron Nefcy, Dana Terrace and her sister

Hates Asians

Hates Jews

Holds nothing but contempt for animation

Wants all of animation to be nothing but slice-of-life romantic comedies

Wants the Hays code back

The Chad Rebecca Sugar:

One of the nicest people working in the industry

Has fought hard for diversity and representation in animation

Is incredibly talented

Is friends with Alex Hirsch (Gravity Falls), Matt Braly (Amphibia) and many others

Paved the way for more diverse creators

Has won multiple awards

Wrote and sang songs for Adventure Time

A non-binary, bisexual Jewish woman whose background and experiences influence her work

Created one of the most groundbreaking, inclusive, LGBTQ+ friendly shows of all time

Fought against higher-ups when they tried to censor the queerness of her work

Helped normalize discussions of kids' mental health

An uplifting inspiration to a generation of queer kids growing up

Influenced by both western animation and anime

Married to Ian Jones Quartey

[strawberryqueen00]

Lily Orchard liking Hazbin Hotel is about to do more fandom damage than anything anyone could say critically about the series lmao.

[saiscribbles]

Lily Orchard STILL Doesn't Understand Steven Universe

I decided to round out the year by ending Lily Orchard's whole career.

Fair warning: I swear. Alot. Alot alot.

About a month ago I decided to react to Lily's two most recent Steven Universe videos from 2023 on my weekly art stream. The reacts ended up going so well I have now edited them down into one comprehensive video with visual aids and gags along the way.

So if you ever wanted to hear me clown on an SU hater for 2 hours while giggling incessantly, making gremlin noises, explaining SU and info dumping all of my own headcanons... well now you have that!

Here's to me becoming more of an unleashed gremlin in the new year.

[rahabq]

[fennec-archives]

..Im gonna allow y’all the discern whether this is “hornyposting” or not for yourselves.

[sweetface-the-dollbaby]

reblog if you’re a better person than lily orchard simply by not being lily orchard

[flower-boi16]

Lily Orchard's Double Standards in Regards to Hunter

So one of Lily's critiques of Hunter is that it takes him "too long" to break from Belos' control (four episodes into his arc to be exact...which is not even that long. Like, at all). Ignoring how little water this critique holds by itself, time to bring up...

Zuko. I have not seen Avatar the Last Airbender (I probably should lmao) but from what I've heard Zuko and Hunter have many similarities to each other, with a few major differences setting them apart. And Lily is known to like Zuko quite a bit...

...so...when does Zuko break from Ozai? Why, (from I've been told) it's mid-season 3...

...So Hunter takes four episodes to break from Belos in a single season and Lily complains about it being "too long", but when it takes Zuko almost the entire series to do the same for Ozai, she doesn't complain...

...that's...interesting...Oh, but I'm not done yet with the Zuko comparisons. In Lily's white favoritism video, Lily gets on Hunter's ass for kidnapping and almost forced a bunch of teenagers into the EC (conveniently ignoring the fact that he realized his mistake and fixed it two minutes later).

...even though Zuko did FAR WORSE than Hunter, yet NEVER gets of his ass for that. Oh, and apparently, to Lily, Zuko was never a villain and was "just an abuse victim escaping an abusive situation", yet she never applies this same logic to Hunter for SOME REASON despite their many similarities???

Then there's Amity, a character in the same show as Hunter who also has some similarities to him, being a deliberate parallel to him. Bringing up Lily's complaint about Hunter taking "too long" to break from Belos, she, like with Zuko, doesn't apply the same critique to Amity for some reason...? Like, if you're going to complain about Hunter not breaking from Belos fast enough, why don't you complain about Amity not standing up to her mother quicker?

Hell, why don't you apply this to ANY character with and abusive parent?

....Oh, I know the reason why, actually; Hunter is an "angsty white boy", while Amity is a white girl and Zuko is Asian. The reason why Lily doesn't complain about these things for Amity and Zuko but she does for Hunter is because of his gender and skin color/ethnicity respectively. She's directly holding a double standard that she doesn't hold due to them not being "angsty white boys".

I've said it before, but Lily's critiques of Hunter are entirely biased around him being an “edgy white boy” and double standards like these clearly show that.

[dorkygurl-89]

i'm gonna let it go. i'm gonna let it go. i'm gonna let- NOPE

it's rich. it is fucking RICH that lily orchard of all people would like hazbin hotel. even though she tried to come after steven universe for "redeeming" the diamonds (and tried to paint the show as fascist apologia), she's thinks a show about LITERALLY REDEEMING SINNERS is neat

wow. that's not hypocritical at all, lilz. i guess it gets a pass cuz lesbian couple :/

oh, and her trying to compare herself to angel dust? while she's also comparing her sibling to valentino? no, not on my watch

am i gatekeeping? yes, absolutely. i'm a spiteful bitch that rejects her review

we do not accept

-a hazbin fan that's running on a cup of tea

[lily-orchard-gossip-blog]

Time to do another dramatic reading of our least favourite avatar.

Today, I will be subjecting myself and all of you to the vignette titled "space".

Unfortunately, it's not about the cool space. Which is a shame, because that would have less incest in it.

I wish I was joking.

So we once again start off with a republic city tabloid making the Avatar upset.

That is twice that this framing device has been used, and while this vignette came first, I think Lily needs to come up with a better opener. We can only have Niva read so many tabloids, and getting upset by it, as a framing device so many times before I start to question why Niva keeps reading them.

And because the author has a barely disguised fetish, we get to jump right into the incest using the tabloids as an excuse:

WHO TALKS LIKE THAT TO THEIR SISTER????

If people are reading your behaviour as romantic, to the point that it's getting printed into tabloids, it really makes me question just what you were doing to give off that impression. (We get a good idea of this pretty fast in this vignette.)

If I didn't know they were sisters, I would think they are dating.

Because this is a couple spat.

As for the claim that people can't comprehend sincere devotion without sex, well, if the Avatar and her sister are always touching each other in public in the ways that lovers do, then it isn't the public who is misreading the situation.

Again, this isn't how SIBLING'S talk.

This is how romantic partners speak to each other.

If I can pull this lines out, and show them to a total normie, and they would think this is a couple, then you have written a romance, not a sisterly bond.

And I'm sorry, but if someone is always having their arms wrapped around each other in rather intimate ways, and talking about how devoted they are to said person, then people are going to make assumptions. It's not them misunderstanding what they're seeing or reading too much into it. It's them seeing how too people are acting, and making a conclusion.

Alright, moving on.

Here's a red flag for any relationship:

Our supposedly confident, self actualized Avatar needs an excuse to assert her boundaries.

So either the Avatar isn't actually a confident, self actualized badass like Lily claims, or, her sister has reacted negatively to demands for space in the past, making the avatar nervous about asking for said space without an excuse.

Either way, this is yikes behaviour, and something any other author would explore, but we all know Lily won't explore it.

We then get a little bit about how Niva hate's Republic City because it makes her feel overwhelmed and overstimulated, which if Niva is meant to be on the spectrum, is a nice bit of character building.

We then get them bashing the food in Republic City because it's "corporate" and then Lavi tells her to "just be honest about her need for space", they hug, and we end on this groaner:

Probably the most normal part of this relationship, and guess what?

It sucks.

I think it's the last two lines. They just scream "I need a witty closer".

And that was Space.

I think I need Space from it. 🤣😭

This was another episode in our growing series called "the author's barely disguised fetish". And while I'm certain Lily gets a lot of enjoyment out of subjecting people to it without their knowledge or consent, I do not.

And I went into this knowing exactly what it was going to contain.

To summarize my thoughts on this literal nothingburger of a story...

I don't have any.

Despite being gross because of the incest, it really doesn't actually tell you much about the characters outside Niva feeling like she can't even ask for space from her sister, which would be fine... if Niva wasn't supposed to be a self-confident badass. So now it just reads as problematic, but we all know this will never be addressed.

Honestly, the incest is the only thing that either of those characters have going for them, and that's both parts gross, tragic and hilarious.

Now get out of my house.

[pleasetiemyshoelaces]

Ladies and gentleman........ GOT EM

[opinated-user]

this is a lie. KP actually withstood for months people saying that kind of things to her because well, that was her friend and she thought that friend was a good person so who cares about what complete strangers with zero influence power has to say? since the very start of their friendship KP has been tolerating people treating her as a apologist for all the horrible things LO has done, just in principle, not even directly dismissing the allegations that she has. LO, you literally took that info from me and completely twisted what it meant for this. to not admit that KP left you because she believed Courtney. she still does to this day. she saw the allegations, saw the evidence, listened to it's testimony and realized that you were a dangerous, disgusting and awful person that she couldn't stand being around anymore. it was so easy, that's the part you sadly don't understand. it was so easy because from the start KP never liked you as much as you liked her. she trusted MO and MO trusted you, that was all there was to it. for the record too, whenever LO uses the phrase "fair weather friend" you can add that as a red flag. not only is that what she keeps calling Brittany, when she isn't lying about having sex with her like the creep that she is, it's also the phrase that Twilight uses in Stockholm to describe the kind of people who won't support her through the raping of her own wife or Rainbow Dash after molesting a child. since the start, LO has always use it, whether intentionally or not, specifically for people who refuse to tolerate abusive behavior. because a good friend, according to her, would have left her lie about Tara/Alison all she wanted. a good friend would have ignored her sibling speaking out. a good friend would have closed off their ears and pretend everything was okay despite everything. a good friend would never call her out on her obviously predatory actions. that was the ultimate lesson of Stockholm that LO is still applying even to this day. just in case anyone needed the reminder that Stockholm exist, LO wrote it and is so much worse than just being pro pedophilia.

[momett]

i'm watching "lily orchard is wrong, and here's why" by hiding in private and i'm honestly so fucking glad this video exists. LO's video was a nuke towards steven universe discourse (which at that point was mostly full of right wing grifters trying to tear down a show that welcomed marginalized people with open arms) in a really unique and vicious way. its so full of half-truths and straight up lies about the show hidden behind a faux-progressive coat of paint that it's hard to believe anyone took it seriously. it's hard to believe i once took it seriously.

i really enjoyed LO's content as a young queer teenager just coming to terms with its identity so seeing where she is now is just. sad? it's like finding out someone you looked up to is actually a horrible person. which, i mean. given stockholm and everything that isn't exactly too off base.

[weaselbeaselpants]

Let's all be real and have a little moment of unity here, kids.

Lily Orchard is the very worst of both Antis and Proshippers.

For Antis, she's blatantly the kind of fandommom who doesn't actually care about the problematic aspects of writing/characters unless it's a character or ship she doesn't like (hence why Family Guy is good actually and never worth any real scrutiny despite it being Family Guy). No nuance where she'll agree to disagree w people about her own tastes which r problematic. No respecting other people's triggers or comfortzones or safespaces. 100% "if you like Cattdora, you like abuse", "if you like HunterxWillow ur a boring homophobe", "Rocky Horror is evil and nasty and ur a 'bad gay' 4 liking it" - cuz she said so and she has other people's actual lived experiences, critiques and trauma to back up her vendetta.

For proshippers, ....be real she's THAT KIND of proshipper (I know some of you will refuse to call 'that kind' of person a proshipper, but I mean...). Ya'll know the one. Ur out here w your unapologetic A/B/Os and Catdoras and Stolitzs or whatever saying "let people ship/like things you don't; stop being a bully" and IN COMES THIS asshole who's definition of fetish and paraphilia are so obviously one in the same. The type who likes incest and noncon and incestnoncon A LOT and makes one too many Colleen Ballinger-esque jokes abt minors for you to not be dialing 911, but then they'll punch you with a "are you being INTOLERANT of my sexual expression" bs to gaslight you about you not liking their predation?

Between obviously having made Stockholm and denying that she could have done so, along with her behavior, she's managed to run the gambit of being that one BIGOT and CREEP of a bully everyone else in the space hates. Like an evil fandom Hannah Montana.