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deepsea-dive ¡ 5 years ago
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Catching up with Virgin Galactic
This December on the 12th, Virgin Galactic’s space program had yet another misfire. According to their PR, “Did Not Reach Space as Planned, as the Rocket Motor Did Not Fire Due to the Ignition Sequence not Completing.”
Did Not Reach Space as planned, huh.
The “moon landings” were over fifty years ago, and this bunch of space clowns has yet to make one Low Earth Orbit flight you can buy a space-ticket for, despite having massive cash backing and all the R&D you can shake a delta aluminum wing at.
“According to SWP president Mark Tepper, the stock's rise is not justified by fundamentals. Rather, Virgin Galactic is "a pure speculation, pure hype stock," and one with a potential market size less than half what investors say it is.”
Despite us all having supercomputers with capacitive touch screens in our pockets and graphics cards able to throw around enough polygons to compute the entire “solar system” a bazillion times over, the mess of conflicting hominids called “humanity” has not been “back” to the moon. In 1969, the height of consumer technology was a cassette player and rudimentary scaletrix.
You cannot go to space because space is not a real place. There was never a Tesla in space. There was never any such thing as “space.”
Infinitely expanding vacuum universe huh. Dumb.
Fucking vacuums, how do they work?
Speak to you later.
- DD
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deepsea-dive ¡ 7 years ago
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What if the Earth is Flat?
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Whenever I have globers speak to me, it’s difficult to keep the conversation on any kind of proof of curvature or non-curvature. Instead, I get pestered with the parrot-mantra of ‘Why would they lie?’.
Forgive me a little rant here. Before considering even an iota of evidence, before opening your mind even a crack to the possibility that our home could be flat, the same pleading question comes out, like a little child. ‘Why, why, why would anyone say such a thing, why...’
How can you expect to learn anything if you are already convinced that you are absolutely right, and people who disagree with you do so because they know less?
All flat-earthers used to be globers. They listened to the evidence, they had the intellectual honesty to throw out bad ideas when they were exposed. They didn’t simply repeat the list of cuss words I get exposed to on a weekly basis.
Flat earthers are Flat because we know more about the globe model, not less.
Well, to answer the question - Why would they lie? Let’s think about it:
If the Earth is Flat, it would mean that the main conflict in this world is not beween different countries or nation-states, but between the governments, media, organised indoctrinators, the so-called justice system, and the people.
If the Earth is Flat, it would mean that all space is fake and so-called space exploration is a cartoon designed to keep you distracted and believing in an imaginary, secular, materialist utopia - A Mars Colony with a Starbucks and Macey’s.
If the Earth is Flat, it would mean that humanity is not simply an inferior prey species that is due to be replaced by a more “evolutionarily advanced”, sociopathic, parasitical species that lacks compassion - The plot of the Alien and Blade Runner films (as well as countless others), which tell people exactly how their masters see them - as meat sacks for corporate consumption.
If the Earth is Flat, it would mean that television, movies, radio and all other forms of mass media are what they obviously are when you take an outside perspective - weapons of mass hypnosis.
Even more importantly:
If the Earth is Flat, it would mean that everyone who believes in the spinning ball earth has been hypnotised into believing what they have been told rather than what their senses tell them. That is to say – Tricked and bamboozled into believing that knowledge comes from “science”, “experts”, “scientists”, “education”, and not from their own reasoning, their own senses, their own judgement, their own research, and their own scepticism.
If the Earth is Flat, it would mean ball-believers are living inauthentic lives, trapped in a mental prison where the perception created by the media class has replaced the reality they experience of our flat, stationary plane earth (which we all know and experience simply by looking at a flat horizon on a calm day).    
If the Earth is Flat, it would mean that peace is realistic and attainable as this planet-plane would be purposefully made to support human life (and conversely, that all wars are slaughterhouse games played by the elite with peoples lives over bragging rights).
If the Earth is Flat, it would mean that being a vegetarian/vegan is a more sensible and healthy way to live, as no creator would make a world where we would have to kill the creatures for food or nourishment.
If the Earth is Flat, it would mean that leading a life of compassion and quality and knowing ones’ true self is far more important that accumulating quantity, be they Bitcoins, Boats, Houses, Cars and other social status trinkets (thus undermining the consumer-capitalist society we have been served up and told is ideal).
If the Earth is Flat, it would mean that the spiritual dimension and cosmic coincidences we ‘feel’ during moments of oneness with others, nature or ourselves are real and authentic, and it is the smarmy atheists who (without a shred of real evidence) claim that cosmos is purely materialistic are in denial about their own nature.  
If the Earth is Flat, it would mean that all standing water is flat and level (which it is).
If the Earth is Flat, it  would mean that life is miraculous and purposeful, and not the result of some inexplicable, cosmic accident.
If the Earth is Flat, it would mean that you matter.
Earth is flat, exactly as your senses tell you
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deepsea-dive ¡ 7 years ago
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Apparently, 3D block style fonts have been popular for 120 years. If this wasn’t on public record, I would doubt its authenticity. Still a good looking and accurate map!
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Happy Belated Earth Day!
This little tribute to Earth Day comes in the form of a Flat Earth map created by Gilbert Johnson in 1890. My favorite feature of this map is the oddly eloquent text running along the outside ring: “Line where the Earth and sky join”
Map: Johnson, Gilbert. Map of the earth / Gilbert Johnson, author and publisher.  Grandin, Carter Co., Mo. : [Gilbert Johnson], c1890.
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deepsea-dive ¡ 7 years ago
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deepsea-dive ¡ 7 years ago
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If the earth is spinning around the sun, why doesn’t it simply smash into the International Space Station?
Get out the way, astro-nots!
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deepsea-dive ¡ 7 years ago
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Gatekeepers and Shills
They’re everywhere, and they’re cheap.
Hence it’s harder and harder to get at the truth without being co-opted into recommending a disinformation agent.
Also remember that honest truth seekers can put out disinformation without realising they are doing so.
Regardless, it’s still better than the deranged Merry-go-round of Dinosaurs, NASA, Einstein, and the globe earth.
If you believe that time and space is bending and warping and you’re on a spinning potato shaped rock that was once home to giant reptiles with huge legs and tiny arms, you have been completely bamboozled.
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deepsea-dive ¡ 8 years ago
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Flat earth is a mirror
If you think flat earthers are batshit, but you’re content to just let them have their weird geology in peace, you’re probably a middle of the road, life in the received wisdom lane type of person. That’s cool. Situation normal.
If you think flat earthers are wrong but you’ve done at least some research into it, you’re probably fairly intelligent and naturally curious, if not quite skeptical enough about conventional wisdom. Not bad, but you have a tendency to be over-trusting of rationalisations and excuses as a way of dodging cognitive dissonance.
If you are a flat earther, you’ve come to trust your own judgement and reasoning over the enormous pressure society heaps on you. Well done. Let’s not get cocky though, that’s how we ended up being duped in the first place.
If you decide to make snarky comments about flat earthers on tumblr, it goes to show you are the type to tread on and insult others to score a few social points from other narcissists. Making fun of marginalised, powerless groups takes no bravery whatsoever.
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deepsea-dive ¡ 8 years ago
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deepsea-dive ¡ 8 years ago
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Gas diffuses into a vacuum
It is genuinely disturbing that people can’t deal with this simple fact. Gas diffuses into a vacuum. Simply blowing up a balloon and letting it go will prove that gas expands to fill the the available space.
Apparently, there was a Big Bang and all the gas decided not to diffuse to fill the available infinite space, but to do the opposite and stick together.
I guess if gas does not diffuse to fill the available space, then some different force must make the balloon deflate. Does gravity do that? Does it it pull the air sideways out of a balloon?
Edit: Some smart alec points out that balloons are elastic and I agree. It is a bad analogy. I did write an earlier post that mentioned vacuum lifting equipment but I guess that is forgetten now.
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deepsea-dive ¡ 8 years ago
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Boats Go Beyond Horizons, not Over Them
Globers love to repeat their parrot mantra of “boats disappear over the curve” as if this observation proves the ball earth, and as if there was no other possible explanation.
The horizon is not the curvature of the imaginary ball earth. It is the limit at which your vision cannot discern between different things due to their convergence in perspective.
The further an object gets from you, the smaller the image, due to the angles created.
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Eventually, the angle is so small that your eye cannot discern different objects, materials or textures, creating a vanishing point.
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If the horizon was not the inherent limits of your vision, but instead the curvature of the ball earth, you would be able to see boats sail over the curve to the left and right of you, because the limits of your vision would be further than the earths curvature.
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Instead, your horizon is a circular hula hoop all around you on a flat plane.
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The reason the boat disappears base first is because the bottom of the boat converges into the ocean in perspective first. Your eye has an angular limit at which it cannot discern between the boat and the ocean, because the cells would need to be smaller. Apologies for the crappy tablet drawing.
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The word horizon is derived from Greek:
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A limiting circle on a flat plane. Horizon means Horizontal. That means flat.
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deepsea-dive ¡ 8 years ago
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Testing the Globe using 3D modelling
One of the many arguments that gets flung at flat proponents goes something like this:
“Have you ever taken a plane trip?! You’d be able to see the curve.”
Bing! Yes, we do regularly fly on planes to flat earth conferences. Due to a flexible inner window and the pressure between the inside and outside of the plane, at ground level the horizon is flat, but at high altitude a fish eye lense is created, showing a curved horizon.
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Have you ever climbed a mountain?! You can see the curve!!
Yes, we often do things like this to test the globe!! There is footage from the tops and bottoms of mountains showing the sunrise to see whether it “rises” or moves towards us, as according to the flat model.
Also, there are things like:
Just look at Mythbusters and high altitude footage!! The horizon is curved!!
Sure, but a fish eye lense will always give a curved horizon.
For this virtual experiment I created a ball that is “the size of the earth”, and then positioned the camera to scale to the ball.
This way we can see exactly how curved the horizon should be on a planet with the earths radius at whatever altitude we choose.
You can replicate this for yourself simply by looking at the camera specifications I have included in the image.
Let’s start with the Red Bull “Space” Jump.
Felix Brautburger or whatever his name is went 24 Miles up. I converted to Kilometres, and positioned the camera accordingly. The camera is a normal 35mm lense.
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The “Z” Axis refers to the height of the camera. I have simply added radius of the globe + 24 miles in kilometres.
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It results in a clearly curved horizon.
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Remove a fish eye lense, and the horizon is not nearly as curved as we expect it to be. There is still a curvature, but we can say that there is possibly some camera lense distortion. Either way, the earth would have to double in size to give a flatter horizon like this!! So either way Felix has proven that all our maps are totally wrong.
Perhaps, historically, we can find a higher view of the horizon... much, much higher...
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We can also use the model to compare to other high altitude balloon footage. Here we have a flat horizon at 21.5 miles up:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBDOt4R6hLY
Time to go beyond the imaginary curve.
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deepsea-dive ¡ 8 years ago
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Why They Would Lie
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Norrmally the first response of a NORP glober exposed to a flat earth message will be to throw their hands up and wail, 'Why would they lie?!', as if it is self evident that no-one would benefit from deceiving them about the true nature of our 'planet'.
It is a given that our society operates on mistruth at every level. Capitalism, phoney charity, political careerism, managerialism, speculative trading and any number of other financial schemes all have one thing in common: They all allow the individual to enrich themselves by deceiving the many.
If you like watches, you might be tempted by a 'reasonably' priced mid-range watch. The movement inside will be exactly the same as lower tier watch - made of the same components, by the same people, in the same factory; although the mid-range watch will have a bigger marketing budget allocated to it and a shinier exterior. Although branded goods are often sold on quality of product, all too often what is sold is an illusion of a lifestyle. Political operatives sell the illusion of security. Charities, routinely spending millions on frivolous lawsuits, keeping inhuman dictatorships on life support and squandering cash on rights to heartstrings-tugging music, conjure up gnawing feelings of guilt that they sell a snake oil tonic for.
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Always remember that a target audience is exactly that: A target. You are being targeted in a psycho-spiritual war for dissolution into a mindless consumer zombie. The education system, military industrial war complex, international bulk product chain and satanic lunatics in the Pizzagate parties all have one target they want to ensure never, ever, ever gets to have their own way: You.
The flat, motionless earth that you experience and know to be real from what your senses perceive is ideologically replaced from the moment you see your first 'World map' or globe (assuming it's not an AE flat map). You are taught, in the exact words of Neil DeGrasse Tyson that:
"Our senses are not useful..."
The globe is a cartoon, and its purpose is to make sure that you feel alienated from what you once knew as reality. Through systematic propaganda, government education, Hollywood movies and Big Pharma fearmongering about everything from germs, viruses, nuclear warheads to space aliens, you are constantly taught that life is a random, haphazard accident; that humans are nothing special, that particle physics proves we are insignificant and came from a random blips of quarks and electrons, and that without the power structure of "experts" you are nothing.
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Flat earth is the position that is arrived at by people who are brave enough to think critically, independently and evaluate their own preconceived notions and biases. The number of people who are raised flat earthers is probably barely above single digits. Flat earth is above all a research into the true nature of our world and where we come from.
You were born into a prison for your mind and given a B-movie, cartoon reality to live in, like a Truman Show type office cubicle with cows and fluffy clouds painted on the inside.
If our planet is truly flat, and globe debunkers make an extremely strong case that it is, then you need not worry about any kind of 'disaster' except that which evil people manufacture. If the sun and moon revolve above the flat earth, subservient to the planet and not the other way around, placed there to divide day from night and nurture us as the inhabitants of this special world, then God must exist and have created this world specifically for us to live in.
The cosmological terrorism committed by NASA and all other "Space agencies" around the "globe" is psy-op designed to seperate you from your true nature so you won't struggle when you're slid into the processing vat and turned into another human battery. Flat Earth is the final warhead in the arsenal of truth, as it demonstrates that we are here because we are wanted; that without the divine right of experts to dictate to us the nature of our "reality" we will be... just fine.
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deepsea-dive ¡ 8 years ago
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The Magical Mythical Force of “Gravity”
In order to justify the assumed globe model, Newton came up with his force of “Gravity” to explain water sticking to and curving around the spinning ball earth.
Like most other mentally stifling ideologies, heliocentrism and globularism relies on self deception and stacking assumption on top of assumption. "Gravity" in this case acts as a sort of mental plaster filler to sandwich together the gaping cracks in the flawed model. The Capital "G" force of "Gravity" for "God" in the sense that "Gravity" works as a "Gravity of the gaps". It makes the earth orbit the sun, and it makes satellites revolve the earth at precisely the right distance to beam radio waves into your television sets from millions of miles away. In addition to the this, "Gravity" has the power to bend light, squish entire worlds into the size of a molecule, and create new universes. And these same atheistic pseudo-physicists have the audacity to call religious people "superstitious"!
Disprove 'Gravity' through simple conditional reasoning, and the whole edifice falls apart. No Gravity, no 'Big Bang', no black holes, no infinitely expanding universe, no heliocentrism, no Darwinism and no water sticking to, and curving around a spinning pear.
One of the reasons normies are so hostile to flat earthers is because the flat model is not simply a variation on existing physics, but a total rejection of it at the fundemental level. Existing physicists are allowed to debate how the universe sticks together, expands and the precise formations of stars, but they better not stray into the realms of intelligent design or anything that would imply that - An enclosed universe, a stationary earth, or life purposefully and thoughtfully created (instead of being a haphazard, random event) - or they would not last long in tenure. Ordinary people are routinely and willingly duped, and so the existence of someone who does not also buy into the same cartoon McWorld offends their pride.
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It is quite easy to disprove "Gravity" as being the force that keeps us stuck to the earth, for the simple fact that air can be lifted by mechanically creating empty space.
It is the nature of a gas to diffuse to fill empty space. Each molecule in the gas is bouncing around independently off other particles and moving around with increased temperature as it carries more energy.
We are told that "Gravity" prevents air diffusing into space. But, when we create an empty space here on earth, the air diffuses into it.
How is this possible? How is it that a constant downward force, created by the earths mass, can pull an air molecule away from the vacuum of "space" at high altitude, but at the earths surface, air immediately fills a vacuum and gravity is powerless to prevent it diffusing into empty space?
Not only this, but atmospheric pressure of 14.7 Psi (which works out at nearly 10 tonne per square metre) can be used to lift immense weight, simply by using a suction cup and vacuum pump.
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With "Gravity" turned on, a vacuum lift would never work, because the constant downward force of gravity would pull the air molecules away from the empty space and towards the earths surface.
The presence of a vacuum would not move air molecules an inch, as "Gravity" is already pulling them away from a vacuum.
The only way to rationalise this - barring circular logic of, 'gravity pulls air away from a vacuum, which means objects can be lifted by air defeating gravity and trying to diffuse into a vacuum' - is to say that "Gravity" gets stronger the further one goes from earth, so it is stronger at the boundary to space, but weaker at the earths surface.
Clearly this is nonsense. The easily demonstrable nature of gases, pressure and the failure of "Gravity" tells us one thing: Our cosmos is limited and enclosed, allowing us to live and move freely in a pressurised environment.
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deepsea-dive ¡ 8 years ago
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Flatposting Refraction: Is the Horizon as it appears?
I have been sent various counter proofs of the horizon appearing to drop in line with what you would expect on the globe model. However, in doing this the globers have discounted one of their favourite arguments: atmospheric refraction.
When Flat researchers and believers offer long distance proofs that invalidate the claimed size of the globe, the general argument goes that light behaves like this:
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Needless to say, atmospheric / atmosplanic (depending on which model you subscribe to) is real, but it does vary according to temperature and humidity conditions. Many long distance proofs cannot be simply invalidated by handwaving and saying it’s just “atmospheric refraction” when they appear the same day after day, year after year. Plainly what is being seen is normally correct and our eyes are not being continually deceived.
The same problem cannot then simply be ignored when testing for a fall of the horizon. Identifying the actual horizon due to atmospheric / atmosplanic refraction is likely to be extremely difficult.
If the boat in the following image was not there, one would immediately assume a horizon far below the actual horizon:
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One for luck:
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There are extreme cases:
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Atmospheric / Atmosplane refraction is hotly debated in Flat earth circles, and a simple YouTube search will turn up many results from big cheese flat researchers about the nature of atmospheric blocking, lensing and distortion - This is something we really care about we want to make sure our long distance proofs are accurate as possible and stand up to scrutiny.
Results of measuring “Horizon Drop” thanks to atmospheric refraction: Inconclusive!
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deepsea-dive ¡ 8 years ago
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Flatposting about Horizon Drop
So my latest post got reblogged by a “Theoretical Physicist” (someone who creates mathematical models that may or may not describe reality) with commentary on the vestibular system.
His criticism of my post was that the vestibular system is basically not accurate enough to create an artificial horizon that would distinguish between a globe and flat earth. He states:
However, the amount that you “look down” between being 6 feet off the ground and being 30,000 feet above the ground (standard airplane cruising altitude) is a whopping 3 degrees (you can come to this conclusion yourself by a simple calculation). This is because 30,000 feet is almost insignificant compared to the earth’s radius of 20.9 million feet. More importantly, 3 degrees is miniscule; far less than would be noticeable just by feel.
Firstly I would say that 3 degrees is very significant, as mentioned in my prior post a modern theodolite is accurate down to thousands of a degree, whether it can retain enough stability on a flight is a question of practicality. There are over a hundred mountains over 20,000 ft, so a theodolite measurement of horizon drop is perfectly possible and achieveable at higher altitudes.
Secondly the idea that you would not be able to perceive a 3 degree drop from the horizontal is assertion and assumption - Just like my own claim that you would be able to sense it. I was unable to turn up a study on how accurate the vestibular system is in the scant minutes I spent Googling - This is definitely something that should be thoroughly investigated. If the vestibular system is accurate to within a degree, then yes, one should be able to sense the horizon declination from within flight. However, the argument of how accurate our senses are does not invalidate the concept of the artificial horizon, and its usefulness in testing the globe.
It is my belief that our vestibular system is created for and can only function correctly on a flat earth. On a spherical earth, judgement of elevation would be incredibly difficult, but on a flat, extended plane, we can clearly survey landmarks and distance all the way up to the horizon in perspective. The rate at which objects get close together (and approach our angular resolution limit) as we move further from them allows us to naturally perceive distance and elevation. Likewise, on a spherical earth there would be no horizon, as a horizon by its very nature is always at eye level.
If we truly lived on a ball, our experience of life would be more like this - constantly having a sensation of looking downwards and “falling forwards” as we traversed the ball earth.
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Again, this is not what we experience. As we traverse our flat earth, the stars do not move backwards overhead like the surrounding environment in the mock up ball world shown above. Instead, they decline to the horizon exactly in line with perspective.
In order to support this post, I googled for a video of a camera panning 360 degrees whilst flat and level, to show a flat horizon. Instead I found something even better: a high altitude balloon with a 360 degree lense. A full 360 field of view is continously visible as the camera rises, and the horizon does not decline or fall away as  you would expect on the globe model.
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My original post was showing that whilst the calculator for the bulge was correct, it disregarding the fact that on a ball earth, one would have to drop ones gaze below “eye level”. Even if the vestibular system is imperfect, the concept of “eye level” is not. We can set up arrangements of spirit levels, theodolites and so on at “eye level” to test whether the horizon really drops or not.
Eye level will always be a horizontal tangent away from the ball earth, and the edge of a sphere, no matter how big, will always decline away from the observer.
Whilst I have done my own testing the globe at a very basic level on Blender 3D, there are more advanced and accurate modellers out there, one of which is Steve Torrence of FE Core. I highly recommend watching Steve’s videos of a balloon ride up 110,000 feet on the globe and flat model side by side, and you can decide for yourself which one best corresponds to our reality.
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deepsea-dive ¡ 8 years ago
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Flatposting about 8″ to the Mile
There is a lot of argument about the 8″ to the mile squared formula.
Flat earth memes and convention say that Dr. Samuel Rowbotham’s 8″ to the mile squared is valid. Globers contend that the correct formula instead describes the arc bulge, and the arc bulge formula is the one that should be used when calculating whether long distance proofs of the flat model are valid.
Another Flat adage is that “Horizons rise to eye level”.
This is a double proof of the flat model, firstly that there is such a thing as a Horizontal Horizon, rather than the curve of the ball earth. Secondly that it rises to eye level, as an extended plane does due to perspective.
Thirdly, “eye level” is a reference to the vestibular system, something not much talked about in discussing long distance proofs. The argument about whether 8″ to the mile is valid, and the “eye level” argument are interrelated.
Let’s examine what the 8″ to the mile describes.
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Taking a distance of 500 miles squared (250,000 miles), and then multiplying it by 8″ gives us 2,000,000 inches or 31.56 miles. So within a mile or our calculation sheet. Taking a distance of 3000 miles squared (9,000,000 miles) multiplied by 8″ is 72 million inches, gives us 1136 miles - actually less than the correct Pythagorean drop of 1375 miles, so a benefit to the globers.
Overall, we can say that this maxim is correct for a roughly approximate Pythagorean drop. For specific proofs in both the globe and flat camps, it is good practise to use multiple calculators, both Pythagorean and arc bulge.
The arc calculator is more complex and specific. Here is the image that describe’s Mike West’s Metabunk calculator.
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The problem with this calculator is that it does not take into account our sense of balance. NASA’s page on the vestibular system describes it usefully as:
 “[being] comprised of three semicircular canals connected to two membranous sacs called the saccule and utricle. The saccule and utricle are often referred to as the otolith organs.
The otolith organs allow us to sense the direction and speed of linear acceleration and the position (tilt) of the head.The semicircular canals allow us to sense the direction and speed of angular acceleration. The semicircular canals are oriented along three planes of movement with each plane at right angles to the other two. Pilots and astronauts call these three planes of rotation pitch (up and down; nod your head “yes”), roll (tumbling left or right; move your head from your left to your right shoulder or vice versa), and yaw (lateral movement left and right; shake your head “no”).”
You know even if you are stood on top of a tall building with no visible horizon due to clouds or atmosphere / atmoslayer in the way where the horizon is, because the fluid in your ear canals acts like a spirit level. You can sense your eye level and declination of your head as you tilt your head forwards.
On the globe, this means that the horizon is projected as a tangent away from the ball earth, like a lighthouse, and the ball earth would decline away from you.
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At no point on a sphere can the horizon ever rise to meet your eye level, regardless of how big it is. When you look out of a plane window, you are able to turn your head fully 180 degrees and see the horizon at your eye level without lowering your gaze. The curvature of the plane window glass gives the illusion of the ball earth, but simply turning your head left and right from an aisle seat in the middle of a large aircraft will show you that the earth is a flat, extended plane. Otherwise, you would be able to sense that you are lowering your gaze from the horizontal.
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When we apply this to the bulge calculator we see that the 8″ to the mile squared is the better formula, as we already have a spirit level and artificial horizon inside our heads. We can confirm that the Pythagorean theorem is better and accurate simply by using a good theodolite - These surveying tools are often equipped with three spirit level bubbles, and so can measure pitch to within a thousandth of a degree.
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The flat camp is proven right as the 8″ to the mile squared correlates with our own inherent biology, but the bulge calculation ignores our innate sense of balance. Here we can illustrate this simply by adding a horizon to the arc bulge calculator. This is not what we experience on our flat plane earth.
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deepsea-dive ¡ 8 years ago
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Flatposting about Virgin Galactic
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Virgin Galactic has now been trying to achieve "Low Earth Orbit" for longer than it took to "reach the moon". 
Despite having vastly superior technology and the company being 'cash rich' and ‘never better situated in terms of venture capital’, and taking advantage of the huge number of literal rocket scientists that left NASA when Obongo re-focussed their programe to be about diversity instead of space exploration.
Despite multiple fatalities, ex-NASA staffing, monumental increases in technology, aerospace, engineering and materials science, Virgin Galactic has still failed to make even one LEO flight.
Space remains the domain of a government department completely free of all civilian oversight, unaccountably spending billions of dollars annually and totally out of reach of the private individual...Because it doesn't exist.
If you went as high up as the ISS allegedly is over the flat earth, the "gravity" would be exactly the same. Unsupported masses fall because they are unsupported. They do not fall because of a hypothetical, magnetic like force called “gravity” that draws masses together through occult powers.
Still waiting too be able to buy the Disney World ticket and visit the fantasy world of SPACE in their “Rocket Ship”.
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