discoursecollector

[discoursecollector]

When you say you lean proship, what are your reservations to fully embracing that title?

The negative stigma around it. Im fully aware that proship is harmless but i grew up online in the antiship community. I was proship before I knew what the term was and anti-shippers harassed me when I was young and groomed me into being antiship, I was ashamed of the taboo content that I consumed in private for years and im only now breaking from it, and its difficult to embrace it fully when the conditioning is still there.

[discoursecollector]

My First order of discourse discussion is:

Proship VS Antiship

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What is Proship?

Proshipping is a stance, not a ship archetype, that means you are Anti-Censorship when it comes to primarily Fanmade Fictional media. Proshippers are big fans of the DLDR and DEAD DOVE tags on fiction sites, They don’t care what others ship, even if that ship is problematic in nature. There are subcategories under Proship that are ship archetypes (Comships, Darkships ect)

What is Antiship?

Antiship is the antithesis to Proship as one may guess, These people believe that problematic ships in media shouldn’t be explored in a romanticized manner. Even in fanmade content. They do care what other ship, especially when they perceive a ship as problematic or “illegal”

Whats the issue?

The primary issue in this debate is that anti-shippers don’t know what proshipping is. A lot of anti-shippers believe that proship stands for “problematic shipping” or that All proshippers engage with Dark media, They also believe that engaging with such media is a gateway to real crimes committed.

This isnt true.

On the other hand, there ARE alot of proshippers who taint the community by using it as an excuse to commit real crimes, most notably Pedophilia.

My take?

I lean more Proship than Anti. Obviously i have boundaries regarding what content i like and dont. If you don’t like the content, don’t engage with it. block the tags, block the creators, if you use your free will, you don’t have to see it. Educate yourself on the real meaning and message of the community. If you still think it’s weird afterwards don’t interact with anybody from it. It’s a very simple solution to end this discourse, and from my perspective, it mostly lands on anti-shippers taking accountability for threatening lives.

no fictional ship can be illegal, it’s not illegal to make dark media, the topics discussed in the media can be illegal when applied to real life, but that doesn’t make the media itself bad, or even indulgent on the ideas. to add- don’t report dark fictional media to authorities, it wastes their time and resources looking into real cases of CSEM/CSAM material. If you see anyone asking for- or holding that content, report immediately.

also a note for some proshippers- specifically the icky girl/daughter and l0l11c0n side of that community, stop posting pics of urselves, youre minors and ik you think your self objectification is hot or sexy or whatever but this is dangerous and damaging behavior. you are not fictional, you are a real person who deserves to be safe, pls keep urself safe from abuse.

Even the most problematic ship is fictional, these people are not. If you have substantial evidence that this person is committing an act of pedophilia, go right ahead I don’t care. I hate pedophiles as much as the next. But you need to learn what proshipping is and you need to learn what pedophilia is, so you can adequately understand what’s actually going on instead of making assumptions. you don’t have to agree, just be mindful.

Im Open to Discussion, If i missed any points or you need clarification on certain things, go ahead and ask me.

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Ask Box is now open.

Rules for the asks:

No Hate speech or Harrassment, especially if someone is responding Non-Anon, dont go on witch hunts.

Images are allowed, if u attempt to send anything NSFW or NSFL to me bc of my takes i will report you.

keep discussion clean and respectful i dont tolerance petty insults

i will know if youre a troll and i will engage with you as seriously as any other user

Reminder that this blog is for my amusement dont take everything so seriously, I think end of the day these are all petty online discussions with no bearings on the real world.

[discoursecollector]

Hello everyone I am the Discourse Collector, Giving my unpopular opinions on discourse online.

I encourage all nonviolent engagement and my overall opinion on most of the topics i will discuss is that “If its not hurting anyone, its fine”

I will engage and start discussions seriously, but with that being said i am a ragebaiter. I carry my opinions wholeheartedly and do believe them, but i tend to form my opinions based on what makes the most people upset- because its funny.