#proship discourse

[entirely-strange]

"it doesnt matter if its fictional or not!" then whats the difference? why isnt the police investigating r34 and ao3 the same way they investigate dark web sites? why is it wrong to hear someones trauma and then say "this is just like that one anime"?

[victor-cartoons]

We need to make a list of things not to do if you're proship. I'm looking at yall, ableist "proshippers" using the R-Slur.

You can't be proship AND make fun of people for shipping something you don't enjoy by the way. Didn't think I'd have to say that.

- Jaspers (he/him)

[stply]

i don't have a take about this game itself because it's not something i'm particularly interested in nor do i really give a fuck but the wording here is really. uh actually guys only men buy porn games especially the bad ones and only men have kinks and fetishes especially the bad ones actually. everyone knows that no woman or otherwise would ever be interested in anything like that despite. checks notes. 62% of women in a study having rape fantasies. but no only men are ever aroused by anything bad and in fact all men who have ever been aroused by anything bad should be in jail. no one else though because they'd surely never like this type of material

[mewglitch]

reposted from r/ao3 in reference to antis, but this applies how a lot of leftists approach many other topics

[badantitakes]

Pack it up yall. Shipping fictional Incest now puts on a list lmao

[co0balt]

I typically don’t care for what proshippers/profic do so long as they tag and TW their content/account properly, as I wouldn’t even be considered the typical “anti” (I don’t harass people over these things, I just won’t like you or want to interact with you & I don’t like taking the risk of interacting with people who label themselves as “proship” since it’s such a vast label. It could either mean “I don’t want to harass people but I don’t post any triggering content myself” or “you’re gonna get an eye full of n4zi loli hentai” and I’d rather not have to scroll through a person’s content to find that out. I’d rather just not risk getting triggered in the first place), but good lord I hate when proshippers refer to antis as “fandom police” and say “acab refers to fandom police”.

My brother in Christ ACAB is meant for the corrupt law enforcement system (typically referring to US law enforcement) that allows cops to freely commit violent acts against & even murder marginalized people, racially profile, and resort to shooting before literally any other option with ZERO repercussions (and instead gives repercussions to cops that try to PREVENT their fellow cops from committing these atrocities). What ACAB is NOT meant for is for you to describe little Timmy who said “you smell bad” under your Dipper x Mabel fanart.

Saying that ACAB is also meant for “fandom police” completely undermines the importance of ACAB as both a saying and a movement & tells me nothing other than A. You’re ignorant and B. You don’t actually care about marginalized people, especially black people, and how recognizing that the police are objectively bad is extremely important.

[muwwwsky]

I'm so fucking tired of antis so easily believing obvious bait from other antis who pretend to be proshippers. Sometimes I feel like 90% of proshippers on TikTok are antis who try to demonize proshippers and show them in a bad light.

[sugarloom]

How it feels being proship while antis argue over whether or not shipping found family with each other is problematic:

[purpleblanketz]

Dear 15 y/o darkshipper who gets death threats from grown adults,

Please. PLEASE. Do NOT come out and tell people about your CSA/grooming trauma in an attempt to get people to understand you.

They will not care. They will use this new information against you, actually. The death threats will turn into "You probably liked what happened to you"... "I hope you get raped again"... and worse !

This moment will haunt you forever when you realize people online dont give a FUCKKK about victims

[poppytommy]

proship on an adult website : ok TRIGGER WARNING!!!! INCEST PEDOPHILIA TOXIC!!! THIS IS NEVER OKAY IN REAL LIFE!!!! NO MATTER WHAT!!! DO NOT PARTAKE IN THOS!!! THIS IS BAD!!! IF UR UNDERAGE FUCK OFF THIS ISNT FOR YOU!!!! STAY SAFE!!!!! AGAIN THIS IS A FETISH DO NOT LOOK AT THIS IF YOU ARE UNDERAGE!!!

anti on youtube shorts and tiktok who had a primarily child audience : guys look at this artist theyre a proshipper!!!! fixing proshipper art!!! *shows barely censored porn*

[andthelaw]

Normalize not liking things for no reason or for stupid reasons.

Normalize disliking things others like and still treating them (the person and the thing in question) with respect.

Normalize not having an opinion on things.

Normalize not knowing things and asking others about them.

Normalize doing research.

Normalize disagreeing with your friends' tastes.

Normalize having mixed feelings about things.

Normalize being proud and loud about things you're into.

Normalize trying to emphasize with those you have opposing views with.

If something doesn't HURT anyone

It's okay.

We're only human!

We are not perfect and nobody should expect us to be.

Allow yourself to be you and let others be themselves.

[el-sandwich-de-geto]

i miss when people could just dislike things without somehow making it a sociopolitical statement.

it's never "i just don't like that show/comic/movie/manga/anime, i think it sucks".

now it's gotta have some deep reason tied to your personal lore or identity or wtv the fuck. essay youtubers are the worst at this.

at this point i just don't bother to read/watch any critiques of anything anymore, i hate having to click out of a vid midway, wasting 15 minutes of my time because you bring out some bullshit looney excuse like "that anime is misogynistic because the protag has her titties out" or wtv.

just say you don't like titties and move on, man, it's not the activism you think it is.

[badantitakes]

Can I admit something to you? I’ve made a lot of mistakes because I got parasocially attached to people online. I’ve attempted to “save” people trapped in the anti movement (because I was naive and not thinking about the consequences of my actions.) Now that I’ve matured, I’ve come to the conclusion that, these people are going to fall down certain rabbit holes one way or another, and there’s nothing I can do to stop that.

I mean not all hope is lost. I myself was an anti at one point.

Guess what? It was the antis horrible behavior and criminal like behavior that convinced me to become proship

Plenty of proshippers are ex-antis.

[2000swootie]

@ users on this site who want to be pro-nsfw and keep the internet from becoming a squeaky clean corporate hellscape: make peace with proshippers and profiction as a whole. I mean it, the internet will never be the pro-nsfw paradise you want it to be if you keep going "I'm for the internet being a weird place of creativity UNLESS you're one of those freaks that makes that kind of content"

[b0gdasha]

Perhaps it will be a bitter pill to swallow for most people but something needs to be said:

[muwwwsky]

you know i would rather trust an adult proshipper with "disgusting" and "weird" kinks who clearly knows the difference between fiction and reality and not allowing minors to interact with them than an adult antis who stalks minors with rape and death threats because of fictional characters