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if i had a nickel for every time Deke Shaw was thrown into a time period he knew very little about and took a year long hiatus from regular SHIELD activity to start a fun successful business built on plagiarism, i’d have two nickels. which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.

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Okay the headcanon that Coulson’s letter to Daisy had adoption papers in it- that he officially adopted her as his own daughter- owns my whole heart and I choose to believe in that and only that thank you x

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I have never been so stressed in my life watching season 4 episode 15 of agents of shield for the first time.

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You're joking.

I'VE WANTED THIS FOR SO LONG AND YOU'RE TELLING ME IT NEARLY HAPPENED!?!?

Do you ever think about A Spy's Goodbye and how the only reason they did that was so Bobbi and Hunter could have a spinoff but then the spinoff got canceled so we just have to live with that and

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Somewhat of a LONG rant/discussion ahead, just a warning. Ignore it if you would like.

This is regarding the Daisy/Fitz storyline in S5 (yes, we all know which one)

I’m basically going to discuss (and rant, ig) about how I think that, despite what a large portion of the fandom apparently thinks, Daisy’s pain and anger in S5 is valid. :,)

If you’re going to read this at all, please read to the end, I have so much to say and don’t want it to seem that I am in any way attacking Fitz either (I love and feel for him so very much too), this post just focuses more on Daisy’s experience.

The ONLY people I am blatantly attacking here are the writers for even writing this in the first place (shame on y’all).

Okay…

Daisy was tortured. She was strapped down by (doctor) Fitz against her will, drugged and tortured. He cut into her neck with a knife, tore the inhibitor out, which could have literally paralysed her (as Jemma mentioned at one point, which Fitz also knew), all whilst she was screaming in pain and begging for help.

(Also whilst two of her friends watched. >:) I love Deke and Jemma, and I totally get Jemma’s decision to try and talk Fitz down, but come on. Do better, WRITERS. Early seasons Jemma would’ve never allowed that.)

Not to mention, Daisy was horrified that when said device was removed, she was going to lose control and end up destroying the world, which many people in the future were constantly blaming/hating her for. She had seen it, she was CONVINCED that if the inhibitor was removed, THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

She wasn’t even begging for HERSELF on that table, she was begging him to stop so that she wouldn’t take billions of innocent lives.

And afterwards, Fitz admitted that he didn’t regret doing it. That he didn’t regret hurting her to do that. Imagine how that must’ve felt to Daisy.

And some people are saying that she’s ableist and out of line for holding him accountable and locking him up?

I’m so sorry, but what did you think she was gonna do? “Awe, that’s alright buddy, I understand :)” No, and no one should expect her to be totally fine with it, nor immediately forgive him.

She went through TRAUMA at the hands of one of her closest friends, someone she considered FAMILY. Her anger with him after that is justified.

Please hypothetically put yourself in her shoes for a moment. :,)

Her locking him up was justified in my opinion, as how did she know it wouldn’t happen again? And have him accidentally hurt someone else? Under her watch whilst Coulson was away? After all, he was the one to reprogram the robot soldier that shot Mack- all so that he’d be out of the picture so that (doctor) Fitz could single out Daisy with no one being in the way. Same reason he knocked Deke out and waited until many members of the team were off-base.

This makes him potentially dangerous, whether he is in his right mind or not.

Daisy was put in charge by Coulson at the time and she had not only herself, but the rest of the team to worry about, all whilst trying to navigate and deal with their foes, which also meant her going off base.

With the resources they had at the time (which wasn’t like… anything), locking him up was all she could do in that moment.

It was the safest option at the time, as that way, he wouldn’t be able to involuntarily hurt himself or any others.

Yes, Fitz had a psychotic/schizophrenic break. No, that’s ABSOLUTELY not his fault and was just as painful for him to experience. But regardless of that, he must be held responsible for his actions, especially when it resulted in him traumatising one of his closest friends/family.

Whether it was actually HIM or not does not take away Daisy’s pain, it doesn’t take away her trauma, she’s just as hurt regardless.

He still had to be held accountable.

Daisy holding him accountable for what he did is not ableist, nor do I think she’s a ‘girlboss’ or anything of the such for it (as I’ve seen other, more intense Daisy fans say… THAT’S not cool). I just think that she was defending herself.

The pain Daisy went through was still very, VERY real, and she had a right to hate him for what he did, especially with it still being so fresh.

BUT finally, I would also like to point out the very NOT cool thing that Daisy did/said even before this whole debacle, which was calling Fitz “Leopold” and “HYDRA”. THAT is not okay and I do not support her actions there. I could extend on why, but it should be obvious. In my books, that is a step too far on her part, as what happened in the Framework was completely out of his control.

Her pain is real, and her anger is valid, but that is a step too far.

ULTIMATELY, in conclusion, I blame the writers for their decision to do this, to write this storyline in the first place, because they ruined the heart of Fitz and Daisy’s friendship by doing so, and that hurts SO bad. Not to mention, both characters did/said things so out of character and that was… UGH. It makes me so angry.

Neither of them deserved this.

Neither of them deserved the pain and trauma that came from it, and both characters deserved so very much better because BOTH suffered for it.

S5 really was CRUEL on my little agent family. ;-;

I know this opinion can be considered controversial, but I want to once again express that I sympathise with BOTH characters here, I’m just focusing this post more on Daisy because most others do not, and regularly attack anyone who even breathes in her defence during S5. I see Fitz’s side too, and I feel SO much for him as well (+ if I did go into how traumatic it also is for Fitz, this will probably be twice as long as it already is. Just know that I do see that too, I’m not blind).

Of course I feel just as much for him, I’m just tired of people always going at Daisy for not immediately forgiving him after such a traumatic experience, not only for Fitz but HER too. I’m tired of this debate within the fandom but I just wanted to express a part of my (overly extensive) view on it and be done with it because I needed to get it off my chest as someone who feels sorry for BOTH characters in S5.

I have more points that could be made for both ‘sides’ (even tho there shouldn’t even be ‘sides’, both went through trauma, there should not be a debate on that) but this is already WAY too long so I kept it “short” (or shortER at least).

I’m very passionate about this subject and sick of the arguments (as both a Daisy and Fitz defender) so thank you for coming to my stupidly long rant 🫡 (and I hope y’all don’t hate me after this)

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was rewatching the last few episodes of season 1 and got to feel the grant ward experience (tm) all over again. after finishing the finale, i kinda have to work it off, so here is a rant about everything that pisses me off about him.

he lied to everyone about everything from the beginning, killed so many good agents and friends and random bystanders, kidnapped skye so shed decrypt the harddrive, and still seriously thought he had a chance with her, after the people he works for literally almost killed her. he flirted with her during that kidnapping, he tried to get empathy from her while an agent he just killed was hidden in the supply closet with his blood ruining the linoleum. and then he tried to get her to feel sorry for him, because it was hard for him to make all those choices. those choices being to kill her friends and destroy the only family shes ever had. he still saw himself as the victim, despite being the worst most psychotic perpetrator he could ever possibly be. literally working for hydra and killing people just because his boss told him to. this one scene in the plane describes him perfectly, even before season 2 dove into these characteristics in detail. he is completely beyond saving.

one of the central mechanisms of his character is that he wants approval, and will do absolutely anything - anything - to get it. that ruthlessness was inside him already. garret didnt exactly manipulate him into becoming what he was. he took a dysfunctional juvenile, dumped him in the woods for 6 months, where he survived by raiding cabins and presumably killing their occupants all to impress garrett when he returned, and then he joined up with hydra for the same reason, and presumably that stayed his main motivation. and he cared so little for anything else that he continued to be willing to do anything, from murder to kidnapping to using other people to fuel his delusions to rescuing hive, an ancient inhuman hellbent on consuming earth just to "punish" shield for how they treated him.

and that desperation for approval came from the way his family and especially his parents were, and thats what may meant when she said that they all had trauma and it didnt turn any of them into psychopaths. his sad backstory explains why he is the way he is, it doesnt excuse it and it doesnt excuse the actions he takes in the present, at any point he couldve done any amount of self reflection, recognized what he is, and chosen to better himself, and instead he chose to keep blaming the rest of the world for his misdeeds, and thats on him.

yes, its tragic, he was groomed into the man he became. its not his fault that he is who he is. but he is that man, and its gone far beyond what garret pushed him to be. he chose to do all these terrible things and to keep serving him, to ignore every opportunity to even just stop and walk away, and he is making his own terrible choices even after the man who groomed him is gone. he is a twisted delusional sociopath, a murderer, who uses other people to support his narrative that actually hes some kind of hero and everything bad he does is someone elses fault, who desperately clings to the narrative that he is the victim and because of that hes allowed to do whatever, and who would rather burn the world before acknowledging any of that.

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This moment is just perfect.

OK can we talk about this scene????? (gif by daisyssousa sorry my friend i don’t know how to tag you on the app)

I feel so sad that this duo didn’t get more screen time but this scene totally crushed me. We all know they loved each other since the begging, they cared about each other, but before this it feels more like a typical asian mother-daughter relationship (no offense to the asian mother-daughter relationships) . They keep their emotions close to themselves, you know there’s love in them but there’s also distance. The mother will always put her love in action but never truly express it to her daughter. And the daughter, gradually, will do the same for her. It’s like there’s a thin paper between them that need to be pierced. And this scene did this perfectly.

I kinda liked they wrote May as a person who can feel other’s emotions (there should be an actual word but because my poor English i just can’t find it in my head). In this case, she could finally feel those unspoken words from Daisy, the happinesses, the worries, the love.

The emotions was so strong so she can’t help but projected them. Is there only projection? I don’t think so, the suppressed feeling for all those years exploded, triggered by that girl in front of her who loves her with her whole heart. For the first time we saw May showed this level of intimacy and affection to Daisy on the screen. And this is the one poke that broke the thin paper. It’s a new start, just like Daisy said. And I’d like to see the aftermath very much but I don’t think we still have the chance.

OK enough of my babbling! I just think this scene is so precious and everyone needs to see it :P (and I really need to work on my English)

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I feel like not having their stories all wrapped up makes it an even better ending to the show. We've watched these characters grow and learn, and to me it's so comforting that their journey isn't over. They're all still on missions, saving the world, raising familes, we just don't get to see it anymore. I'd be really upset if they ended it with all of them retiring, leaving each other or dying. They all still have so much ahead of them and it's lovely to think about what they could be up to, and it provides a huge opportunity for them to return to the mcu (PLEASE). It absolutely feels like it isn't over and I would LOVE to see them again in future projects.

finished my season 7 rewatch. its such a weird feeling that this is the end. weve spent so much time with these characters, and their journeys arent even really over, the series just stopped. weve gotten so used to having them, and now suddenly we dont. the fact that after seeing so much of their story and caring so much, its just over, we dont get to see the rest, there isnt any more just feels off. this is such a good show, it makes you feel like it being over is some mistake. i dont usually hate that a show has ended. if they ever continue this in some fashion, im gonna feel so relieved. this is why there is so much demand for any of it to return, no matter how. it doesnt feel over.

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Omg YES like sure, the end scene was nice and it was cool to see how they were all getting on a year later but I need more BEFORE all that I want to see Alya and Daisy meeting for the first time, I need a Flint-Yoyo-Mack reunion, and oh god I need more SOUSA like we got barely anything and he's so perfect we don't deserve him.

We absolutely should've had a 2 hour long episode full of found family and happiness and reunions and family dinners to end the show that would've been perfect.

We also deserved a post credits Deke scene. Where was that?

Okay I’ll never forgive the IMMEDIATE one year time-jump after Fitzsimmons reunited with Alya in the finale.

We were completely and utterly ROBBED of the team meeting Alya like are you KIDDING??

Why would they not show us that? I am appalled.

Also we didn’t see Daisy and Sousa, and Mack and Yo-Yo, reunite after they returned home from space (where Daisy literally DIED for a minute there) and I’m upset about that too.

The finale should’ve been like two hours long at the least. Give me an hour of wholesomeness, we don’t even need any action or plot, just family vibes and a little bit of happiness for ONCE.

Robbed, I tell you, we were robbed.

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Deke may be a lot but he is everything.

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why would you say this.

What am I thinking about? Oh nothing, just that Cal doesn’t remember his best day ever

Cal doesn’t remember his best day ever.

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I feel like the writers originally intended for Coulson to be the main character but quickly realised Daisy had a lot more potential to explore and so she was a main focus in the earlier seasons. The team wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Coulson, but it probably wouldn't have survived without Daisy.

I feel kinda weird about people saying Daisy is the main character of the show, cause in my opinion it actually switched a few times. In Seasons 1 through 4 I would say the focus is definitley on Daisy and in a lesser capacity Coulson, granted, buuuut...... the first half of Season 5 feels very Simmons-centric to me and the second half is all about Coulson. Season 6 is mainly about Sarge, we get to see the team more from the outside (as in it doesnt feel as personal or emotionally invested as in, say, season 2 where we literally saw Daisy struggle with her powers and the teams reaction from her perspective). and then in Season 7 everyone is essentially a main character, we get everyones perspective and everyone gets deep emotional trauma (yaaaay). anyway, just some thoughts going through my head as im supposed to be writing a summary for a lecture.

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Literally because if I had two wishes they would both involve the contents of letters:

1) Coulson's letter to Daisy. 'It basically just says how proud I am of you' um ok Philip I'm going to need a bit more than that. Give me SPECIFICS.

2) Cap's letter to Havers in BBC Ghosts. Ben those were not plans for their top secret operation, it was a love letter and I would really quite like to know what it said. Thank you.

Another day being in physical pain we never really found out what was in Coulson’s letter to Daisy.

If I had ONE WISH, it wouldn’t be for world peace, it would be to know what was said in that GODDAMN LETTER.

I’ll never not be UPSET :,)

I’ll never truly be at peace because of this, honestly.

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This!!! I could honestly talk about AIDA as a villain forever, she is by far one of the most fascinating in my opinion. It was clear from the beginning that she was going to betray the team SOMEHOW (Mack, Elena and Jemma's doubts being voiced a bit too often for it to be nothing) although it was hard to see how or when that was going to happen. I was also shocked by just how big a role she played, it wasn't just her changing loyalties to someone else; she herself turned against them, against Radcliffe, in order to get what she wanted. But I absolutely loved what she did, how she used the framework and LMDs. And yes, you absolutely cannot blame her for any of it. Of course she did all those things, she had free will and wanted to be human and when that happened there was no one to guide her or prepare her for the emotion she was going to feel. It's quite similar to how things were when Daisy was first an inhuman, but where Daisy had Jiaying and Lincoln and a whole support system of people who the exact same thing had happened to, AIDA had nobody, and the extent of change in her was probably 10x the amount Daisy went through. And the only emotion she thinks she understands, love, is ripped away from her when Fitz says he only has room in his heart for Jemma. It's perfectly understandable that she would react negatively to that, especially as she was so used to having that love in the framework. She is so well written because of course we all hate her, hate what she did and what she took, but we really cannot blame her. This makes her one of the best and most infuriating characters I've ever seen.

And that's what this show does so well, the characters are really thought about, they develop and grow, and a lot of the villains aren't just there for the sake of it. They have purpose other than just to oppose the team. They have stories. Jiaying, AIDA, Ward: they all have backgrounds explaining what they did, and it's really interesting to see how that makes people feel about their actions.

I stand by the fact that the Agents of SHIELD villains hit different.

Yeah, I love (most of) the MCU’s villains, but idc, a lot of the AOS ones are simply superior.

Like Ward? Hive? Izel? AIDA?

Even Jiaying, the Kree and Chronicoms too?

Probably missing a ton more but anyway.

They’re just SUPERIOR.

I will die on this hill.

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100% agree.

I think the length of the show definitely has something to do with it, it provides much more opportunity for the characters to be developed and more adventurous and risky storylines to be explored. Other mcu shows are good but only one or two seasons which really limits what they can do and how much we as an audience can feel for the people in them. They have to jump straight in whereas with aos we got to see them progress and develop naturally, we got to watch these characters grow up, grow closer, and see how their world changes. And as the show had time to get bigger there was more opportunity for the writers to produce truly incredible plot lines (the framework in particular) and arcs. We were also blessed with the perfect cast which certainly helps :)

Agents of shield is better than the MCU.

Someone discuss this with me.

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Spoilers for AoS 1x17, 3x22, 5x14, 4x15

The twists on Agents of Shield hit SO HARD omg, and one of the main reasons for that is the diversions they utilize.

Like I never in a million years would’ve seen that Ward twist coming, (most people didn’t) especially after how betrayed he seemed when it was revealed that Skye was still in communication with the rising tide. They make it seem like “oh yeah, that’s the twist, Skye is the one who’s most likely to secretly work against everyone for a little while, but she’s not doing that anymore so that’s solved” and then Grant kills Hand and stabs everyone in the back and it’s insane.

I thought that the whole Necklace Of Death storyline was leading up to Yo-Yo’s death, and that passing it around and different people wearing the jacket was just another huge diversion to make us think that it was going to be someone besides her. It was her necklace. I was absolutely certain it would be her. I NEVER would’ve thought it would be LINCOLN.

We thought it was an evil fear-dimension doppelgänger of Fitz, only to find out he was never there and it was all Fitz. They really make you think it has something to do with the fear dimension, because that’s the main conflict, right? No.

AND OF COURSE WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SELF CONTROL. OMG. Maybe other people saw this part coming, but I never considered that one of Fitzsimmons would also be an LMD. I got literal chills when they discovered that their friends were replaced. That’s what I was focused on. And then they reveal that one of them was replaced. (Also, I just have to say the acting in that episode is absolutely phenomenal)

The writers are just so good at distracting you with other elements of the story, just so that they can completely catch you off guard with new, even more insane twists.

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FITZ AND WARD IN S2EP3

oh my god. I had forgotten about this scene but it is amazing.

As always, Iain's acting was phenomenal. I think this scene is one of the best examples of his utterly incredible talent- the moment he sees Ward for the first time? Brilliant. He is speechless, he is paralysed, overwhelmed by emotion AND THEN WARD SPEAKS. And a new wave hits him, he cannot control himself and he is having flashbacks now, he can't look at Ward he is in PAIN. And the audacity of the writers to make that pivotal line:

'I imagine you've got a lot to say to me.'

WHY? Why do they want to destroy us? No Ward, he doesn't have a lot to say to you, you dropped him into the middle of the ocean leaving him oxygen deprived and giving him lasting brain damage, affecting his speech. The rage that fills me when I hear that sentence... I hate Grant Ward with every fibre of my being.

But Brett portrays him so well, the way he is trying to manipulate Fitz even now- 'I was trying to save you' NO YOU WERE NOT, trying to make himself the hero, trying to convince Fitz that, actually, he saved their lives. Ward's character is so interesting to me and I will definitely be analysing him further at some point but I love Fitz too much to think of anything but his pain in this scene.

Looking back with my knowledge of the show now, this scene is also one of the earliest hints at the darkness inside Fitz, and the roots of The Doctor. I think this is one of the only things that Fitz does out of pure hatred and anger without believing it is the right thing to do. And let's face it, it's pretty dark- I'm amazed they hinted at what Fitz could be capable of so early on. All the more reason to hate Ward- his betrayal was a turning point in Fitz's life and it is heartbreaking to watch how it affects him.