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Freckled Apollo is good, but I actually like the idea of freckled Artemis wayyy more specifically because I think about the Greeks' explanation for Near Eastern people having dark skin being that they were burnt by the sun when Phaethon nearly crashed Helios' chariot that one time a lot.
I just feel like all of that exposure to the sun and Helios' horses and Helios himself would result in him naturally having much darker skin than his sister. Not that he couldn't still have freckles, but at that point they're more liable to be permanent sun-spots due to his over-exposure. Artemis though, who usually moves in heavily shaded areas like forests and swamps and who works in the night? I bet she freckles every time Apollo kisses her cheeks to greet her or whenever they end up wrestling around like cubs over petty nonsense.
You can always tell when Artemis has been spending time with her brother cause she always has the freckles in the spots he touched her last.
#ginger rambles#apollo#artemis#pursuing daybreak posting#It's 2 am and I can't sleep sue me#Hermes has semi-permanent freckles bc he travels a lot under the sun but he loses them in winter#All of Dionysus' freckles are on his back so you can't see them anyway LOL#Naturally this means that Zeus has the freckle gene which he inherited from his mother who inherited it from her mother#because what is grass if not the earth's freckles fr#Zeus might be a sky god but Hera is the Queen of the Heavens#ergo like his mother before him Zeus only really starts freckling after he gets exposed to her brilliance#(It's because he was raised in a cave his whole life and only really started going out during the Titanomachy)#This implies that Ares and Athena also freckle but they usually wear so much clothes that it's difficult to tell#Ares also wears quite a bit of face paint so it's hard to tell if he freckles in his face or not#Aphrodite knows of course but she'll never tell 😌#greek mythology
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I spent the last odd couple of months working on a single bit of Hyapollo fic and I finally posted it. I'm very proud of myself for getting it done but I am also tormented by how difficult it is to write prose in this style.
Ah well, at least I managed to get something done for Pride Month lol
#ginger rambles#I wish writing was easy again LMFAO#alas I will keep working through this until I can write normally#epic fic should be getting updated soon too - I just have to scrape up the energy for it#splats
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Aeschylus all the way!
Even though Euripedes' works are really enjoyable and are phenomenal for me in terms of how he approaches the psychology and internal conflict of his characters, I don't think any greek writer's works have affected the way I see and think about greek mythology more than the Father of Tragedy himself. Maybe it's also not surprising considering I favour the gods more than human heroes, but I'm just very appreciative of the way his works portray tragedy as a consequence of the condition of being born. That it is as natural as life, or joy or, indeed, death.
Literally changed my life type stuff 🥰
I'm curious
I'm personally a Euripides girlie 😁. His plays are the easiest to read for me and have this kind of lively touch. Also, the Bacchae, my favorite play, is from Euripides so bonus point. Nonetheless I still appreciate Aeschylus and Sophocles' works immensely. There's a lot to love in theirs too.
Edit : also if your answer is Aristophanes, for example, you can choose the fourth option. The three tragedy ones aren't the only choices available.
I'd still prefer to keep it only Greek myth-centered though.
Also, I meant youR favorite*. Stupid typo...
Tagging my Greek myth moots : @margaretkart @aliciavance4228 , @sarafangirlart @just-1-scorpio @katerinaaqu @go-rocksquadsfan @galusandmalus @huntressofladyartemis @gingermintpepper @dootznbootz @amostcuriousmythicist
Anyone else is free to join and tag their own moots if they want to.
#moot stuff#Y'all will never understand how Prometheus Unbound and the Atreus trilogy changed my psychology#Seven Against Thebes is also??? weirdly underrated??? That's such a good play#Then again maybe it's a good thing it's underrated LMAO#I love Euripides a lot too don't get me wrong but Aeschylus is more fundamental to me and how I've developed#both as a writer and as someone who learns about greek mythology as a hobby#I'm the least connected to Sophocles' work on account of having not read much of it at all#I've read what? Women of Trachis Triptolemus and Antigone?#I've been meaning to read Philoctetes too but I just never got around to it#Eh#I'm just not very interested in his stuff right now#🙈#Thanks for the tag!!!
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I have so many of these laying around so have an old doodle of Eros from back when his hair was short! I really love his old design tbh, it was perfect for making him Brood and Ponder.
#ginger doodles#honestly while the veil and horns give him maximum mystery and elegance points there's something so cool about his shorter hair#His wings have changed a lot since then as well but they're still pink and yellow#that's such a good colour combi for him and Aphrodite I honestly can't get enough of it#I'm making a note to draw Eros more cause his design is the only one that's remained relatively** unchanged since the original inception#also I just like drawing him he's very satisfying and he has a ton of fun angles and shapes#eros#greek myth art#pursuing daybreak posting
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Omg thank you for the tag!
Favourite colour: A nice deep royal blue. Something like a sapphire blue and more jewel toned blues like that are just gorgeous to my eyes.
Currently watching: Nothing lol. I've been considering rewatching the 5th part of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure again but I haven't actually gotten around to starting it yet 💀
Currently reading: Poetry Unbound by Pádraig ó Tuama! I'm trying very hard to repair my relationship with poetry so I've been reading a lot of essays written by people who've dedicated their lives to the art. Ó Tuama's writings really make me wish I could relate to poems.
Last Song: Mother I Sober by Kendrick Lamar. I tend to rotate my musical fixings each month and this month it's very solidly RnB and rap. I'm currently on a Mr Morale and the Big Steppers/Ology loop 👍🏾
Coffee or Tea: Tea! Coffee gives me horrible migraines (well caffeine in general does) so I usually drink fruit teas and herbal teas.
Currently craving: Foodwise? Maybe some red mango? I could do with some pommecythere too tbh. In general? Apollo content - specifically about his very complicated relationship with life and death - but I don't think that exists anywhere except in my mind LMAO
Last book opened: Radiant Sin by Katee Roberts. I was doublechecking some stuff about her world structure because I'd seen some posts about her books.
Earbuds, Headphones or nothing: Earbuds! If I had headphones, I'd definitely use those though ☺️
Favourite chip flavour: Whichever is the spiciest
Last place I went other than home: The hospital! I had a doctor's appointment earlier this week and I haven't left my home since 💀
A colour that looks good on you: Bright red!
Last trailer you saw: Oh boy - I guess the Arknights 6th anniversary pv? That's the last trailer I recall actively watching anyway - I don't often look at trailers unless they're shown to me.
I'll go ahead and tag: @superkooku @wishmemellon @konu-d @gotstabbedbyapen and, as usual, anyone else who thinks this looks like fun!
Tagged by: @wizardysseus 💕
favourite colour: Purple! Bluer shades preferred, but any purple a good purple. currently watching: The Murderbot TV series (you're lucky this came out now otherwise I'd have to answer 'nothing' lol). currently reading: Scum Villain's Self-Saving System (... second reread, I went completely off the deep end a couple weeks ago idk), and Rouge Protocol, on my whatever round of rereading The Murderbot Diaries. last song: The City and the River by the Rescues. coffee or tea: Tea, green or black! currently craving: Uhh... chocolate ice cream, maybe? Fic and RP for my current fave ships (Menelaos/Paris and, uh. :v Original!Luo Binghe/Shen Yuan) last book opened: The Iliad! Caroline Alexander's translation for English, but I opened the Greek, too. I needed to check the spoken lines between Helen and Paris so I could put my own versions of them in the relevant scene in The Long Years. earbuds, headphones, or nothing: Headphones. Specifically, noise-cancelling headphones, my beloved. favourite chip flavour: Plain salt. last place i went other than home: Work! (Which happens to be a library-archive institution.) a colour that looks good on you: Noooo idea. I wear my favourite colours if I can get clothes I like with them and that's it. last trailer you saw: The first trailer for the Murderbot TV series.
tagging: @dilutedh2so4 @kebriones @gingermintpepper @edaigoa and whoever else wants to!
#tag game#this was very cute thank you#MMATBS is a god tier album for writing about generational trauma man#not that I'm actually doing any writing right now#but I sure am imagining writing that will be done
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Okay, I know we're all going through the horrible western greek myth retelling machine right now but. BUT ☝🏾 I will die on the hill that Katee Roberts' Neon Gods series is actually REALLY good, specifically because her works aren't trying to be a Greek Mythology retelling at all but instead uses the frameworks like fairy tales and frameworks for her original world.
Unironically, super compelling stuff and the fact that the Olympian names are titles that the society's leaders use and are passed on/acquired by people based on what facet of government they're in charge of is cool as hell.
#ginger rambles#LISTEN I'M BEING SO DEADASS THESE BOOKS ROCK#They aren't meant to be gods or versions of the mythological characters at all but rather characters in a fantasty world#inspired by greek mythology#it's honestly really ingenious because it also allows Roberts to tackle many themes in these myths without#being disrespectful to the culture or religion or history#instead of king or queen the leader of the society is called Zeus and his wife is Hera#the leader of ports and transit is Poseidon the minister of agriculture is Demeter#so forth and so on#IT'S REALLY COOL ACTUALLY#excepy Wicked Beauty that book fucking sucks holy shit#It sucked so hard that I forgot I read it then retraumatised myself when I reread it lmfao#BUT THE REST OF THE BOOKS BANG SO HARD#they're erotica though so like be careful and enjoy responsibly#ALSO THEY HAVE BLACK PEOPLE AND TAN PEOPLE AND FAT PEOPLE AND POLYCULES#AND SO MUCH COMPELLING FAMILY DRAMA AUGH#I will defend these books until I die I actually WISH more people took this approach to using greek myths in their fiction#cause it's like comic books or fairy tales and it FUCKS SO HARD#katee roberts#neon gods#greek myth retellings#I will not say read these books they simply won't be everyone's cup of tea#but I don't think they should be in the same conversation as things like Circe or Atalanta and such#defo it's own thing
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for the fic writer asks, 14, 15, 16, 17 please? your writing is so beautiful and fascinating💚
Hello Anon!! Thank you so so much for your kind words!! 🥰🥰 It always makes me so happy to hear people enjoy my words ♡
14) Where do you get your inspiration?
Honestly, the myths themselves give me all the inspiration I need. These stories are so rich, diverse and powerful, I often feel like they're just begging to be dug into and spoken about! There are so many innocuous and auspicious myths that deserve to be told and retold over and over again - stories about the stars and the rivers and all the spirits that inhabit the spaces humans can never tread. Sometimes just reading an ode or hymn can make me want to write or draw!
Apart from that, I also get a lot of inspiration from music. One of the things I struggle with as a writer is the human aspect of capturing characters, of making them feel less like collections of facts that I'm excitedly speaking about and more like living breathing figures partaking in a life crafted by their decisions and conflicts. Music helps a lot with that by giving me templates to imagine characters to which I usually end up refining more and more into what I think fits the character in my mind. Musicals, RnB, Alternative tracks and fado are especially helpful to me so I tend to listen to these genres a lot when I'm stuck with a character and need a bit of a jumpstart.
15) Favourite weather for writing
I don't exactly have a wide range of weather to pick from where I live but my favourite time of day to write is definitely late at night! It's cool and quiet and I don't have to worry about anyone walking in on me loudly talking out dialogue and sentences as I figure out what sounds good lmao
16) Favourite place to write
Well, traditionally, my favourite place to write is my local library (or any library really) but since I've been so sick recently, I've learnt to enjoy writing in my bed a lot too. Writing in the gallery is also pretty nice - especially around sunrise or sunset when it's not too hot yet and the wind is a bit colder.
17) Talk about your writing and editing process
Oh boy, what can I say about my writing and editing process. I don't really like talking about the physical process of writing because it's very painful for me at the moment. I spend a lot of time agonising over the placement of words, the arrangement of them, whether one set of words will convey my concepts better than this other set of words. I restart compulsively, often trashing thousands of words if I feel like things are veering too far away from my original vision for a work and I can spend upwards of eleven hours just sitting down and writing over and over in order to get a substancial amount of words down on a page that I'm content with.
Editing, in stark comparison, is where I have a ton of fun! It's where I fact check a lot of what I've written as well as finish up whatever extranaeous citation table I've had open on the side and it's also where I play my favourite game of "is this as impactful as I want it to be?" Which usually results in me changing out a lot of my turns of phrases, reordering sentences, updating descriptive terms to be more appropriate for the era I'm roughly aiming to evoke and, if I've written sex, editing is usually where I do my best to evaluate whether something ought to be more evocative or erotic and adjust the lewder aspects of a scene to better achieve my goals. I'm usually the proudest of my work after two rounds of editing!
#ginger answers asks#ask game#thank you again for playing anon!!#also I'm working on the writing being physically and emotionally painful thing it's just something that has come part and parcel#with my depressive disorder#There's nothing for it except to push through it otherwise I just wouldn't write at all 💀#which is a fate worse than death tbh#but yeah!! hehe Research and reviewing are my fave parts of the process#they itch my brainfolds very well#=w=
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All done!


I have to put some dust protectors down but now the shelf looks like mine again! 🥰
As a bit of a break activity from the depressing reality of mainstream western greek myth retellings, today's agenda is cleaning out my childhood bookshelf so I can actually fit my newer stuff on it!
I'm already one shelf deep and a lot of these books are either older than or just about 10-15 years.

While it's not particularly aesthetic, the oldest books with their scuffed and torn spines and fraying edges are books I've inherited from my father, some of which he's inherited from his father. I'm actually not sure how I'm going to fit everything on here but hey! That's the fun of things like this lmao
#gee whizz Ginger I wonder what your favourite series is#yeah man me too#I have posters and prints that I have to get laminated so I can put up on my wall too#I hope I can get the Touken Ranbu Ayakashi mangas soon UGH AUGH WAUGH#Those manga are everything I ever wanted from tkrb I want them in my hands#anyway it was nice to get out of my head and actually do something#my room is very devoid of personal affects so I'm trying to change that lmao
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I'm listening to Kdot while I clean and honestly, Mr Morale is an album that just makes me aggressively daydream about the generational curses that infect the line of Kronos in my work.
There're definite songs that I associate with certain characters like Father Time with Ares or Mother I Sober with Apollo but god, the line "You don't know grief until you know it sober" is just beating me over the head.
As a bit of a break activity from the depressing reality of mainstream western greek myth retellings, today's agenda is cleaning out my childhood bookshelf so I can actually fit my newer stuff on it!
I'm already one shelf deep and a lot of these books are either older than or just about 10-15 years.

While it's not particularly aesthetic, the oldest books with their scuffed and torn spines and fraying edges are books I've inherited from my father, some of which he's inherited from his father. I'm actually not sure how I'm going to fit everything on here but hey! That's the fun of things like this lmao
#No I don't ever think about anything other than Apollo and his several inherited curses how did you know#“I wish I was somebody - anybody but myself”#UGH Mother I Sober is such a powerful song#this entire album is immensely powerful#I wanna listen to Mirror again tbh
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Pretty sure I know where you're from (thanks Miku), but I still took a look at your books for the fun of it, saw pizza&pasta, went 🫵ITALIAN 🇮🇹
LMFAO The most Italian thing in my room is my copy of the first issue of Part 5 of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure!

#ginger answers asks#best part of jjba btw don't @ me#but yes if you saw my Miku reblogs then you defo know where I'm from ♡#hehe thank you for the laugh!
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I dislike throwing away books, especially time capsules like Shryock's 'On Becoming a Woman' but this book is diabolical y'all 😭
There's an entire chapter in here about secondhand daydreaming which cautions young women against reading fiction because it'll make them dissatisfied with life and also they might see themselves in the characters which is "unwholesome". It's definitely a phenomenal text to give some perspective on what ladies were being taught in the far off distant past of uhh, 1960 LMAO
As a bit of a break activity from the depressing reality of mainstream western greek myth retellings, today's agenda is cleaning out my childhood bookshelf so I can actually fit my newer stuff on it!
I'm already one shelf deep and a lot of these books are either older than or just about 10-15 years.

While it's not particularly aesthetic, the oldest books with their scuffed and torn spines and fraying edges are books I've inherited from my father, some of which he's inherited from his father. I'm actually not sure how I'm going to fit everything on here but hey! That's the fun of things like this lmao
#I read this book so much as a kid#not that it affected anything#I wonder where my mother got it from tbh#“Ginger is this Christian propaganda?” oh absolutely but it's for an evangelist denomination my family doesn't follow#so I do wonder if we bought this from JWs at some point or if my mother was considering Pentecostalism when she was younger
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As a bit of a break activity from the depressing reality of mainstream western greek myth retellings, today's agenda is cleaning out my childhood bookshelf so I can actually fit my newer stuff on it!
I'm already one shelf deep and a lot of these books are either older than or just about 10-15 years.

While it's not particularly aesthetic, the oldest books with their scuffed and torn spines and fraying edges are books I've inherited from my father, some of which he's inherited from his father. I'm actually not sure how I'm going to fit everything on here but hey! That's the fun of things like this lmao
#personal#I always think it's funny that my parents were surprised by what I ended up going into considering#they fed me on a steady diet of history mythology and classic literature LMFAO#I also have a ton of Caribbean poetry in here which is really funny considering I hated Caribbean poetry growing up#I mean I hated poetry in general - I never understood it - but that makes it extra funny considering how I write now#“Ginger aren't you going to sort things by height or colour or something?” nope I don't like sorting things like that#books#the real fun exercise is “where in the world is Ginger from based on the bookshelf”#providing you don't already know where I'm from of course lol
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I would like to request to see your oldest, scrungiest cats please!
Signed;
- a certain Saniwa from a far away Citadel
#GOD TRULY IS LINING ME UP THIS SUNDAY MY NYAN-ASK GOT POSTED TODAY TOO AAAAAA#And Higekitty drinking his tea!! he looks so comfy!! omggg#HEISEISHOURINYAN LOOKS SO CUTE AAAAAA These are wonderful scrungly old gatitos and I love them all so much sobs sobs sobs#I mean they're sword boys so I suppose none of them are actually scrungly but I appreciate the age on these cats#thousand year old gatos#also kuki's folded ears are so cute oh my god that's adorable#I'm holding them all in my hands#YAAAAYY
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Ahhh, this is honestly so wonderful to hear!!
Insecure is perhaps the wrong word, but I do often worry that the way I approach the gods is something that will turn people off or will be too alien but hearing that it's an inspiration and that my posts have helped you - truly it means the world! And as for Apollo, I really don't know what else can be done. People will always see and say what they want to - I cannot make people see that Apollo is fascinating and multi-faceted any more than they can convince me he is a jovial, careless womaniser. I'll always champion for more nuanced, thoughtful depictions of Apollo in all his forms, whether he is wrathful or amorous or graceful and in that pursuit of a better Apollo, I'm just very grateful to have found contemporaries who are also searching for more compassionate interpretations of him.
In Pursuit of Daybreak is also an intensely cosmogenial story so things like geneology and inheritance among the gods are huge huge themes in that work, hence why I have to pay extra attention to the gods. I understand that most other retellings or adaptations usually choose to focus on human characters and their lives and so leave the gods as fringe parts or simply do not have/make the space to explore them, so I also have to acknowledge that I'm definitely writing for my interests here LOL. In any case, I'm glad I could help you in any way! Please feel free to reach out any time as well 🥰
Hey,,, so,,, quick question, wdym you love my writing 😭 I didn't even know you read my stuff nevermind liking it!! I'm very very honoured!!
(Also trust me when I say I have a never ending well of good things to say about your writing. I can write essays about it even. Your voice is so gorgeous and the way you write Apollo makes my heart absolutely soar. I wish I could print out your pages so I could hold your words in my hand and revel in the physical weight of them. Please never stop creating♡♡♡♡♡♡)
Trust me when I say that some of your posts about Apollo have inspired the way I interpret him - especially that one about how Apollo and Artemis' relationship as young gods might have changed when he got exiled? Chef's kiss, something I had never considered, love it.
Honestly, I just love finding other people around here that don't have a flat, stereotypical view of Apollo, which is something that seems so hard to find, especially with the recent adaptations that make him a one-dimensional villain character (I'm sure I don't have to name them...) In Pursuit of Daybreak sounds like a really intriguing story, and all your long posts show how much you think about how to portray Apollo well! Plus there's all those other posts about the gods and how they interact with each other... I really love your characterisations of them all.
(Def not stopping creating, if an idea sticks around for two years it's probably worth seeing through XD I started God of the Golden Bow because I didn't think I could write a full novel with the idea. Here I am with, what, 40K-odd words and a rough sketch for an Apollo and Admetus novel? I tend to have two or three projects on the go at once, so it's slow going, but... one day)
#splats on the floor goopily#I really needed this#I needed it so much#UGH#heart eyes heart eyes#sighs dreamily kicks my feet like a beached penguin#EEEEHEHEHEHEHE#okay yes I'm very normal and very professional#thank you so much for the reply!!!#YAY
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So, I’ve seen a good amount of hate for Emily Wilson and Madeline Miller? I’m kinda confused as to why.
Keep in mind I haven’t actually read Wilson’s stuff, but I did read one of Miller’s books (Song of Achilles) and really liked it. Can someone please explain this?
#I don't have anything substantive to add anymore that isn't just aggressively agreeing with these two#so I'll reblog the completed post!! hehe#but yeah I'm aware Wilson's translation is also just like a bad translation but the big hang up thers#and frankly I have a lot of bones to pick with the reputation it's garnered as the de facto 'progressive' Iliad/Odyssey retelling#but I have FAR more issue with her stunt's erasure of female classicists and their translational contributions than I do with her subpar tls#but I know that's extremely important and I know preserving the clarity and soul of a work is the most important part of translation#Anyway both these women - ideally - have their content appreciated either at the very start or somewhere in a very mature middle#of a greek myth journey#I don't have the energy to talk about how Miller completely changed the landscape of greek myth retellings#in english and english publishing because it is a very depressing tale#but just know that you are both correct when you say Miller's works enabled Wilson and also enabled the ridiculous lack of recognition#of female academic classicists who also produce literature such as Mary Zimmerman#I'm simply too depressed already to get into it I fear but perhaps it will be a rant for another day#long post#emily wilson#madeline miller
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Don't wanna sound disrespectful guys but I think the Samurai armors are cool and all but THESE bad boys do not get NEARLY as much attention as they deserve!
(Creations by the amazing Dimitrios Katsikis, also known as "modern Hephaestus", Credit: Dimitrios Karvountzis / Dimitrios Katsikis / Hellenic Armors)
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I was tagged in so many wonderful posts today,,,thank you Universe,,, maybe you do love me after all,,,,
#wiggles around like a worm on a string#I am so warm#ough#I follow wonderful people actually#no matter how much tumblr's algorithm keeps pushing for me to forget that#y'all rock
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