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” Thin privilege is going out with friends and worrying about having to turn down drunken frat boys, instead of worrying about none of your clothes fitting right and about being the only friend unapproached all”

yeah man highlight of my life is staving off sick frat boys. I just love attention from drunk men. It’s just the best when I hang with my friends and nasty dudes speak to me. Also you’re assuming all thin girls get hit on every time they go out, um okay…..

You go on and on about feeling paranoid and like a failure for eating junk food, then blame society. No you are paranoid—no one gives a shit what you eat nor is anyone watching your every mood. And maybe you feel bad because you know you’re polluting your body with nasty garbage.

Ok and then you go on to blame society. Nope. Your insecurities are no societies fault.

Ps your mom is right

My entire life someone has been commenting on my size. My mother, my step-mom, my classmates, my boyfriends, and strangers. I am not a side-show; I am not something to gawk at.

“You could weigh 900 pounds and still find someone bigger to compare yourself to. It doesn’t mean you aren’t still…

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thank you SO much for making your blog. i've been on the heavier side for most of my life, not too heavy, but i've always felt there was something not quite right with the FA movement. the science is junk, the logic is flawed and in their minds any insinuation that obesity contributes to health problems is a personal attack on them. i'm all for SJ, for real, but i really just cannot stand the FA movement and HAES. it's such bullshit and i know this for a fact. so thanks for doing this.

You are most CERTAINLY WELCOME! It's nice to hear that people appreciate what I'm trying to do. You're sweet :) and I hope you enjoy the posts to come and keep healthy and positive! You're awesome anon!Sorry no gif, I'm on the road!

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No, I don't need an award, but it seems your main point on contention was that I wanted to enact violence against a "child". Your naivete about living life as a large person is glaringly obvious.

I was a size 14/16 for most of my late teens and early 20s. I also have been thin. I've worn glasses, I've had contacts. I have disabilities. Im extremely short. I know what it's like to have "challenges." I made a change and my body has thanked me for it.The truth is you can be thin or fat, people will judge you and yes so e people might find you odd or interesting looking. It can be hurtful but you have to let it go and not go online to cry about it.I certainly have never envisioned bodily harm to someone who picked on me.

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I don't get this.

You say the girls say things about them out of earshot aka they dot hear it.

They actually do get to climb a rock wall just on the opposite side. Is not like they're rounded up and shamed and can't climb the wall at all.

Yeah man being able to afford Girl Scout camp and having the opportunity to climb a rock wall. Their childhood sure was stolen. Hey why don't you ask girls who undergo genital mutilation if they think climbing the opposite side of the rock wall is oppression?

I work as a camp counselor (both during the summer and on weekends during the off season) at a Girl Scout camp. We have a wonderful climbing wall, and all of the counselors are able to hook into harnesses that allow us to belay the girls with very little to no physical strain. In fact, on...

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HAHAHA THIS IS AN ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT QUOTE.

Thin privilege is not having to hear your mother announce to your whole family “Dinner’s ready. We’re having [my name] chops.”

Thin privilege is not having your family’s teasing being brushed off as “preparing you for the bullies at school.”

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WTF FA BLOGGERS?-"Healthism"

A new series called WTF FA BLOGGERS calls out FA Bloggers (with a special showcase of  thisisthinprivilege ) for their direct ignorance

“Healthism,” is a term bounced around by FA blogs, particularly thisisthinprivilege (TITP). It is not a widely used term in the actual scientific community nor does it really mean anything. The FA bloggers use it as a catch-all term for people who are concerned with fitness and health, As they see ANY encouragement of proper diet and exercise as either 1. being “fatphobic” 2. encouraging fat people to develop EDs

A Google search of “is healthism an actual thing?” yields an entire first page of ENTIRELY blog posts, the majority of them from FA blogger artetolife/thisisthinprivilege/bigliberty and others.

An ask in their blog asked a question, “How fat is too fat?” To a blog that is all about HAES and no fat people ever have health problems talk, its an important and valid question to ask. Is someone who is 150 pounds overweight just as healthy as someone who is 5 pounds overweight (we on this blog obviously know the answer)? This was artetolife's response:

You’re a fucking healthist if you believe this. Healthism is a value system, not science. Stop conflating the two. If you knew anything about the actual science behind why people are very fat you’d realize that it has fuckall nothing to do with you nor does it mean they a) can b) should c) haven’t tried to lose weight.

Eloquent.

ATL claims to be a scientist but never cites her own work or other specific research studies. She is not a nutritionist. Again, she is NOT a nutritionist. I am not denying that there are some people who are obese based on serious health conditions, but the MAJORITY of them are not. 70% of adults in America are at least overweight. That is not all genetics.

Other posts in the “healthism,” tag include posts about doctors suggesting weight loss, people judging fat people on their eating habits, not getting a job, a fitness blog about yoga, being ignored at a family reunion, complaining that thin people eat junk food constantly, getting cavities from poor diet choices AND GAME OF THRONES.

Game. Of. Thrones.

Someone tell me what the f those posts have to do with anything?

Any and all weight loss/healthy diet suggestions or denying specific privilege to fat people is “healthist,” by FA blogger standards. They believe if you eat well, lose weight etc or are a physician who recommends weight loss you just hate fat people, know that the “science is fake,” and just want all fat people dead. If you think I'm exaggerating, just check out some blogs.

It's funny as well, as many posters on TITP in particular say that they “eat healthy,” “eat better than my thin friends,” and “exercise all the time.” It seems that many of their SUPPORTERS would actually be healthists then, right? Many of them claim to be athletic, yet those posts are praised. Why is it only when a thin/average person suggests they eat well or exercise are they condemned as “healthists?”

(Mod note: Sorry if this seems rambling. I was so angry)

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It’s funny how true this is. In case you’re fat and don’t know, we thin people don’t even have to work. I’m serious. Every week we get a £500 check just for staying thin. We can just sit all day doing nothing, helping no one and we still get applauded because lets be reasonable, weight is all that matters.

Just be careful not to gain weight while sitting. Sarah gained weight and her neighbours called the police on her. Her fatness was interfering with our thin time. 

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Yes let’s reconfigure entire planes to cater to your ass.

Lets make bench seats because thar would work right? How would you space seatbelts, ATL? Still need those. You would find a way that that would be oppressive.

Reconfigurable seats? Yes something that can SLIDE would be cool during severe turbulence! WHEEE!!

This segmented seat bullshit. What if segments break? Something that’s collapsible is usually not durable and if it is, it’s heavy. You need durable material to support 400+ lbs.

Hey I’m short. Lets move all overhead bins down 8 inches! But then it would hit tall people’s heads! Oh no I would be exerting short privilege then right?

You can’t cut and tailor everything. Furthermore you talk about how thin people aren't seen as wasting space in their seat if they aren't "using" it all. That's the dumbest shit thing I d ever heard. If your stomach is taking up a seat a whole person could, that's completely different than someone's hips being narrow and not filling space or CHILD sitting in a seat. Thanks for saying your gut and ass are more Important than a child

Hi! I started reading this blog a couple of weeks ago and it’s been a eye-opener. Let’s just say, thank you. Truly, madly, deeply. For every single inch of help, information, support you offer.

I’ve been wondering about something (well, lot of things, but this has bugged me for days) and would…

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Where to start with the BULLSHIT that is this post?!

“Thin privilege is being able to eat comfortably in any given setting. Thin privilege is being emotionally capable of eating in social or public settings at all. When a thin person is hungry, they usually eat what they feel like eating. They eat the amount that satisfies them, and they do this in front of whoever is around.”

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? So no thin person has an eating disorder. No thin person feels awkward eating in front of people? Every thin person always eats until they’re full. They are always capable of having a good relationship with food. Yeah Okay nice world you live in, honey.

“Thin privilege is taking advantage of the comfortable option without really thinking about it. A fat person may sit in an awkward, painful, or difficult-to-maintain position to take up less room. Alternatively, they may forego sitting altogether. We have grown to fear being scolded for taking up too much space or acting “lazy,” so we try to avoid confrontation at the expense of our comfort.”

I’ve taken the train many a time squished between thin people, people with bags, strollers etc. It isn’t comfortable. I am also extremely short. My feet often don’t touch the ground if I’m sitting. I have knee problems from a sports injury. Standing isn’t comfortable for me. I am thin. I am a young woman who looks totally athletic so when I sit, I feel like I’m being lazy.

“Fat people who find it physically taxing to walk up stairs may not be able to use an elevator or escalator without judgment.”

I lived on the 5th floor of a building. If anyone—fat or thin—took the fucking elevator to the second floor unless they had bags/laundry I got really pissed. It’s one flight of stairs for fucks sake.

“Breathing heavily or loudly is not inherently embarrassing for a thin person, but a fat person can expect to face criticism for this”

I just. What the fuck. Look when I”m at the gym I pant and sweat. I am thin. If you’re in a setting where BREATHING HEAVILY IS COMMON no one gives a flying fuck about your goddamn breathing. Stop projecting your insecurity about BREATHING on other people. I’ve never once, in the entirety of my 24 years, heard someone CRITICIZE BREATHING

I’d like to point out that there are many fat people who have come to live in fear of the experiences this blog outlines. We have tailored each aspect of our daily lives to avoid these confrontations because they are emotionally harmful. We have been conditioned into paranoia.

Thin privilege is being able to eat comfortably in any given setting. Thin privilege is being emotionally capable of eating in social or public settings at all. When a thin person is hungry, they usually eat what they feel like eating. They eat the amount that satisfies them, and they do this in front of whoever is around. When a fat person is hungry and with people, they often eat less than what their body wants them to. They may choose to buy food that has “moral superiority” in the public eye, even if they do not like that food. Or, they may not eat anything. The potential of being the recipient of nasty comments, glares, or even thoughts from servers/cashiers/coworkers/schoolmates/family/friends/dates/strangers is often a worse prospect than hunger, so they will continue quietly in physical discomfort to avoid emotional discomfort.

Thin privilege is taking a seat on public transit without being judged. Trains and buses have seats because people generally find it uncomfortable to stand for long periods of time. Thin privilege is taking advantage of the comfortable option without really thinking about it. A fat person may sit in an awkward, painful, or difficult-to-maintain position to take up less room. Alternatively, they may forego sitting altogether. We have grown to fear being scolded for taking up too much space or acting “lazy,” so we try to avoid confrontation at the expense of our comfort.

Thin privilege is being able to use an elevator or escalator for its intended purpose, in its intended way. Thin people who find it physically taxing to take the stairs will utilize the elevator or escalator, recognizing that it is easier and/or faster and/or more convenient. Fat people who find it physically taxing to walk up stairs may not be able to use an elevator or escalator without judgment. To avoid this judgment, they may take the elevator to a higher floor than they need to go to—high enough to “justify” an elevator ride—and then walk down the stairs to get to where they need to go. Alternatively, they may choose to take the stairs up anyway. This is inconvenient and takes more time. Sometimes, physical exhaustion and pain are preferable to being subjected to judgment.

Thin privilege is never being afraid to breathe. When any person goes beyond their zone of physical comfort (while taking the stairs, walking/biking far distances or at a fast pace, working out at the gym or participating in gym class, etc.) they can find themselves out of breath. Breathing heavily or loudly is not inherently embarrassing for a thin person, but a fat person can expect to face criticism for this. The same applies to working up a sweat or being red-faced after exerting oneself. To avoid hurtful glares, a fat person may try to control or hold their breath when they are in an enclosed or quiet space with others. This is difficult and very uncomfortable. They may wait until the visible/audible aftereffects of their exertion dissipate before being around people again, if possible. They may hide in a restroom until they recover their breath or until the redness in their face goes away. Arriving late to a meeting or class because of this is not uncommon.

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I understand that BMI is flawed

But the truth is the average weight of Americans (I'm not sure about the rest of the world) has gone up. So naturally the average BMI goes up.

Maps that show increases in weight by state over the past 10 or 20 years aren't scare tactics.

It's fact.

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can i just say i love your url

It's to illustrate that at any size--you get hated on. And also that HAES is bullshit!

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I'm on a FA blog and saw this quote "I would just like to point out that there are no bad fat people." Yep every fat person is good.its those damn thin people who are just horrible!!!

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I can project my insecurities all I want, that is exactly what that blog post was about. Seeing people take pictures of me without consent makes me insecure. Yes, I thought of violent acts, but being a rational adult, I did not act on them. It is my right to have these thoughts and is my duty as a human being, as a rational compassionate adult not to act on them. It is naive to assume the pictures were for anything but malice considering the pointing laughing and giggling that took place.

Okay do you want an award for not being violent towards a child?

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While taking photos of someone is cruel, it's more cruel and fucking violent to want to cause physical harm to her by smashing her window and ramming the car harming anyone else in her car (including the driver and other passengers, possibly young children)

Maybe she was taking a photo of your car. Maybe she thought you were pretty or had cool hair

Stop projecting your insecurities

Yesterday, while sitting at a red light on my way to a therapy appointment, I looked to my left and found a young girl (probably 16 or 17) taking a picture of me. My first reaction was to get out of the car, smash the window, take the phone and hurl it onto the highway whose...

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Wow. Okay if this wasn't a troll I'm going to cry

Athletes, astronauts and lifeguards need to be athletic and capable of doing their job. You can't do those jobs at 350lbs+

Furthermore I've seen actresses, politicians, lawyers, doctors and teachers of all sizes....

Help us all if thats not a troll

Role Models

I wrote about this a few weeks ago, but I want to state it here.

Thin Privilege is having a thousand thin examples of success surrounding you for every fat one. Thin privilege is looking at news anchors and astronauts and athletes and waitresses and lifeguards and other students in every moment of your life and recognizing, consciously or not, that you belong with these people, that you can fit in with these people by appearance alone.

It is seeing movie stars and politicians (especially the women) and lawyers and CEOs and managers and doctors and biologists and especially those who run studies and teachers and anyone else in power who look like you that you can aspire to be and admire. Thin privilege is having role models that look just like you.

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"THE OBESITY EPIDEMIC MYTH" MYTH

Part 1 of 2

Fat Acceptance blogs/HAES state that the obesity epidemic is a myth. They say that it's made up by the diet industry in order to marginalize and blame obese folks for their weight problems. They do not believe childhood obesity exists or that it's any threat. Let's first explore childhood obesity.

Let me preface this entire article with this. Bullying based on weight is wrong, whether thin or obese. Children should never be subjected to ridicule based on anything. I stand firmly against ALL bullying. It's something we have to work on, but that does not mean we can ignore obesity.

Moving on...

From the healthateverysizeblog.org:

“I reject the premise of the question. “Childhood obesity” didn’t even exist as a medical or public health term until 2007, when it was invented to further a fear-based, weight-based approach to health. “-Fall Ferguson

“Neither the notion of a “childhood obesity epidemic” nor the threat of a “shorter lifespan” for the current generation, is based on actual scientific data “-Dana Schuster

  And this wonderful infographic:

This is ridiculous, stating that obese people just "buy clothing one size higher." There's a big difference between obese and needing one, singular size higher. I wear a 6-10 based on a store's sizing. If you wear a size 6X, you're obese.

From 'thisisthinprivilege.tumblr.com':

“None of the programs instituted to combat childhood obesity have ever been shown to work. In fact, there’s growing evidence that these programs do a lot more harm than good”-ArteToLife (She further goes on to say that health programs singularly, directly cause eating disorders)

The blog also has an exclusive tag called “stolen childhood,” to whine about being forced to exercise or endure health class where they warn about obesity.

The trouble is, they never link to any studies. Google “weight loss programs help kids,” and see how many results populate the list. Here are a few results I found that showed positive outcomes:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012/09/17/new-program-helps-overweight-kids-lose-weight/57792480/1

http://www.elsevier.com/about/press-releases/research-and-journals/structured-weight-loss-program-helps-kids-from-low-income-families-lower-bmi

These are just a couple that I've found. If you have access to JSTOR or another journal database, you can find tons more.

Here's what the CDC says about childhood obesity (link offers their sources)

Childhood obesity has more than doubled in children and tripled in adolescents in the past 30 years.

The percentage of children aged 6–11 years in the United States who were obese increased from 7% in 1980 to nearly 18% in 2010. Similarly, the percentage of adolescents aged 12–19 years who were obese increased from 5% to 18% over the same period.

In 2010, more than one third of children and adolescents were overweight or obese.

Obese youth are more likely to have risk factors for cardiovascular disease, such as high cholesterol or high blood pressure. In a population-based sample of 5- to 17-year-olds, 70% of obese youth had at least one risk factor for cardiovascular disease.

Obese adolescents are more likely to have prediabetes, a condition in which blood glucose levels indicate a high risk for development of diabetes.

Children and adolescents who are obese are at greater risk for bone and joint problems, sleep apnea, and social and psychological problems such as stigmatization and poor self-esteem

Here's what the WHO says

Childhood obesity is one of the most serious public health challenges of the 21st century. The problem is global and is steadily affecting many low- and middle-income countries, particularly in urban settings. The prevalence has increased at an alarming rate. Globally, in 2010 the number of overweight children under the age of five, is estimated to be over 42 million. Close to 35 million of these are living in developing countries.

The American Academy of Pediatrics also has a page on the issue.

All of these are based on scientific studies and data backed by good science. I don't think scientists are infallible—of course not. In the past we have had missteps and mistakes with science. However, in the modern age we have advanced greatly in our understanding of the human body. We are much more qualified now to say these things than maybe we were with other health issues in the past.

I also know that BMI isn't a perfect system, but it does give some what of a guideline that makes a hell of a lot of sense. If you're a small child, you should not have breathing or heart problems caused by your weight. There are some children who are basically rendered immobile from their weight. The BMI gives a relatively acceptable or comfortable range for your height.

The reality is childhood obesity is a very serious issue. Despite what HAES and FA blogs would lead you to believe, the risks are real. The CDC, WHO, AAP, American Heart Association and countless others agree on the noted and studied risks associated with obesity in children. Diabetes is one that is a major problem. It has been proven time and time again that higher weights affect your pancreas. It is why there has been a massive increase in type 2 diabetes in children.

In fact studies show that 90% of diabetics are type 2 diabetic, which was usually found in older adults. The fact that it has spiked in direct correlation with spikes in weight in children makes the connection extremely clear. It's just one of a slew of issues that can occur in kids.

And obesity in childhood is directly related to obesity as an adult. Generally, it gets much worse as they age. There may be some genetic links to obesity, but the majority of it is diet and lack of exercise. We are all guilty of sometimes being lazy, but it's easy to see how kids don't exercise as much.

There are lots of fun things to do that don't require moving—using the computer or tablet, video games, movies and TV. Many of these existed when I was a kid, but I was encouraged to play. Many summer days I was outside from 8AM until dinner time (sometimes later if we barbequed). I played basketball and volleyball in school. I became overweight in my late teens because I chose to not be active and chose to eat crappy food.

So what can be done? Parents, caregivers and educators have the responsibility to make sure the children in their care eat properly and exercise. The CDC recommends limiting fats and sweets (Oh no what will the intuitive eaters think), increasing fruits and veggies, and getting good exercise an hour a day.

I think more importantly we have to teach our kids an important relationship to food. We can't allow children to decide what 's good for them and what's not. Teach that there are GOOD foods and not so great for you foods. Don't brush your child's weight under a rug because you're afraid of “giving them an eating disorder,” as HAES/FA thinks. Just because YOUR parent was cruel to you, doesn't mean every parent ever should ignore everything and pretend their obese toddler is perfectly fine. They're not.

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The HAES Myth--"Diets Don't Work"

The HAES Myth-”Diets Don't Work,”

Okay folks. This one is one of the topics that angers the most about HAES/FA movement and blogs like This is Thin Privilege. The mantra is “diets don't work, so you should just gobble whatever strikes your fancy!” While I agree that crash dieting doesn't work, a sustained healthy diet along with exercise helps maintain and achieve a healthy weight.

Crash dieting is when a person restricts eating, usually eating one or two foods or using diet products to achieve rapid weight loss. A classic crash diet is the Cabbage Soup diet. This diet maintains that you should eat mostly cabbage soup and very little else for a week (or more). Now clearly this isn't going to work. Why? It's not sustainable. You can't eat cabbage soup every day for the rest of your life. It's not logical to think crash dieting then returning to your normal crappy diet will make you thinner. Other crash diets include the Grapefruit Diet, another one where you eat mass quantities of grapefruit.

Any logical person would see that no crash diet is sustainable. Furthermore many diets that aren't crash diets aren't, either. If you restrict every category of food, cut calories dramatically and ESPECIALLY if a diet claims you can eat a certain way for a week and drop 20+ pounds—you're not going to lose weight.

People gain weight after crash dieting for several reasons. Their body will start hoarding calories because it is mimicking starvation mode, or is lacking nutrients. The bigger issue is that they go back to eating their bad diets after they crash and eat MORE due to extreme hunger. Other times, a diet plateaus and a person gives up and returns to poor eating habits. It is also possible to do some temporary damage to your metabolism from crash dieting.

Rather than crash dieting, it makes more sense to cut some calories and eat a balanced diet. Cutting about 200 calories from food and the same from exercise each day can result in health, safe weight loss. If you know your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR), you can calculate exactly how many calories can help you achieve the weight you desire, whether up or down. I do acknowledge that there are health related issues that might prevent someone from exercise or restricting calories, and those people should always ask their physician about what they can do to lose/gain weight.

A balanced diet includes limiting sweets and fats and also monitoring how much dairy/dairylike products and meat you consume. It includes whole grains, nuts, tons of veggies and tasty fruits. It's very easy to develop a plan that is tasty, allows for treating yourself and its even easier to stick to it once you start feeling better!

Here's where the HAES problem comes in. HAES states that ALL dieting, restricting, calorie counting etc is bad. They say that any restriction is limiting yourself, your body and is bad. This is simply untrue. Eating mass quantities of fatty foods (as intuitive eating doesn't limit) will cause weight gain. It is very stupid to think otherwise.

“When you fully embrace HAES eating, you stop moralizing food. There is no good food and bad food. There is just food.”

I found this quote from a HAES blogger. It not only irks me, but seems delusional. For example, imagine you have a three year old child. Would you allow them to eat cookies for three meals a day, and snack on cakes? Cookies and cakes are bad for you (though they taste nice). They offer you nothing except calories, fat, sugar and tons of carbs. The three year old needs a balanced diet to grow properly. When children are given crappy diets, they gain weight. The same holds true for adults.

As a person who has worked with children of all body types, I have worked with some who were quite overweight. One child I knew was wheelchair bound due to a birth defect. He could do limited exercising, but his doctors instructed his parents that his diet was going to be crucial to him being healthy long term. He was unable to walk on his own very easily, and the more he weighs, the tougher it becomes. His parents continued to feed him processed junk, including fast food nearly every night. He would cry, whine and get violent if he wasn't allowed to have his favorite foods even though his parents are quite wealthy and have access to the best food. His physical trainer, doctors and educators cautioned his parents that he was going to lose his mobility if he gained more weight. He unfortunately now cannot walk at all on his own because he is overweight.

Many HAES/FA bloggers state that dieting caused them to become morbidly obese by permanently wrecking their metabolism. If you browse “This is Thin Privilege” the asks and submissions are jam packed with people complaining that they did a diet and it ruined their life.

Now I am sorry that some people are pushed into crash dieting by parents or other adults, but it did not ruin you for life. Also, many other bloggers and myself have wondered how long they stayed on a sustainable diet. Was it a week? A month? Weight loss takes time to appear. I didn't notice a single inch gone until almost two months of my fitness/eating improvements. Then I dropped weight and have continued to do so. You can't go on a diet, crash or a smart eating plan, and expect immediate lasting results. You have to put some work into it.

I promise you a healthy eating plan that you manage long term isn't going to cause you to balloon to a size 6X. What caused my weight gain initially was emotional eating and being a stupid teenager and eating crappy food. I crash dieted in high school, and gained weight back because I over ate. Its that simple. The FA bloggers are experiencing that as well and by following intuitive eating you are not going to get to a healthy weight. You have to deal with your emotional attachments to food to improve yourself. You can't eat and eat and eat because at one time a crash diet didn't work and made you feel crummy. 

Long story short is that crash dieting doesn't work—but improving your overall eating and adding exercise to your life DOES work. It will make your life better and make you feel healthier. You can't eat whatever you want whenever you want.