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“believing gwynriel is next is insane”

god forbid i pick up on the azriel development sarah almost shoved down our throats in the last two books💔

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🪦 The Elriel Bible Is Just a Collection of Recycled Scene — Let’s Discuss 🪦

Elriels love to scream "But he blushed when Elain complimented him!"

Cool. He also blushed when Nesta hugged him.

Oh, he had sexual thoughts about Elain?Right.

Just like how he had so much lust for Mor that Feyre literally had to look away from the raw tension in the room. multiple times.

Difference?

He had longing and emotional yearning for Mor He ached for her.He actual had emotional feelings that didn't stem from finding/forcing logic and symmetry.

Elain's potato steam compared to shadows?"Except… that’s been done. With Mor...

Not unique to Elain. Reused. Recycled. Redundant.

Now imagine if:–

Every Feysand moment had already happened with Feylin.

– If Rowan had the same scenes with Dorian that he later had with Aelin.

– If Chaol had trauma-healing + training montages with literally everyone else before Yrene.

You’d call that lazy storytelling or in general not endgame material clearly in simple words, right?

Congratulations.That’s Elriel.

A story that’s already been told with other women—better.

Because when it’s endgame, it’s unique.

It’s soul-level. It’s emotionally charged and narratively protected.

Let’s look at what Gwynriel has:

💙 Only Gwyn made Azriel’s shadows sing to her breath.

💙 Only Gwyn calmed them and settled them and him. Also after an emotional turmoil.

💙 Only Gwyn is in his chest. A deep, glowing awareness.

💙 Only Gwyn made him unconsciously smile.

💙 Only Gwyn was in his thoughts the next morning—her smile, her bright teal eyes.

💙Only she made his chest spark and so much more

This is the language of slow-burn, emotionally-rooted, canon-supported connection.

Gwynriel is obvious.

And the only reason Elriel shippers can’t see it?

Because they’ve been self-inserting since 2016.

Colorblind to bright flags.

Deaf to narrative rhythm.

Stuck in the past fantasies and wishful thinking while the story has clearly moved on.

So we’ll just sit back.Keep our receipts.Enjoy our slow-burn, soft-and-sharp shadow-laced romance——and wait for the inevitable announcement 💅

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SEE YOU TOMORROW, SHADOWSINGER.

👀💙🩵

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I want to be as straightforward with this as I can, because it seems as though SO many people lack common sense, reading and comprehension skills, and just respect.

1: An author doesn’t owe it to you to release a book in your timing. It’s either you get quality over quantity, or quantity or quality. From the reviews of the last book SJM put out, it seems that you guys would rather have quality, but can’t be patient enough for her to come out with acotar 5…The same people who are complaining about how they’re done with SJM for taking too long, are the same ones who will be first in line to get acotar 5 when it releases. Another point to mention is that SJM is not only an author but she has a FAMILY. Her attention isn’t just on putting books out, which should be common sense, but we see where that has gotten this fandom.

2: I saw someone else say this, but I want to say something on it too. I’ll find who it is and tag them. They said essentially that Gwynriels base the ship off of evidence, meanwhile Elriels base the evidence off the ship. This is so true, and I’m tired of pretending that it’s not. The same elriels who go around and say that there’s no evidence for gwynriel and talk about how they can’t wrap their heads around why someone would ship them, could not have possibly read the book. I’ve seen so many people on here and other platforms who have degrees in literacy, use that to their advantage, and talk about where they think the story is going based on what is in the book. Everytime, their conclusion is the same.. that Gwynriel is going to happen. Now I’m not saying that it will, but I’m a gwynriel so I’m holding out hope for it. (This is not me saying that people with a degree are always correct, or people without one are wrong. It’s just an example that I’m using that I’ve seen a pattern with) But, to sit there and say you don’t understand why they’re shipped, is absolutely an insane statement, and ultimately shows that you’re either ignoring the evidence, didn’t read the book, or interpreted the book the way you wanted and have decided to live in lalaland. The same couple of pieces of evidence that’s used for elriel, is so easily debunked with basic reading comprehension skills. With that being said, I can understand why they want to ship them ( the forbidden romance trope), but with actually reading the book, I can’t possibly see them actually being together/being mates. But if SJM makes it happen, that’s what it is.

I know that this probably came off harsh, but most of the time everyone here says things the way they see it, and I’m doing the same. It’s so irritating seeing people (elriels) disrespect the opinions of Gwynriels, and getting nothing said back to them. It’s also annoying to see people claim that they’re done with SJM just because she hasn’t released acotar 5 yet. Instead of worrying about that, GET A JOB. Please also realize, that this ship war is based on FICTIONAL CHARACTERS, and people take it way too far when they feel threatened. To avoid that, GET A JOB AND STAY OFF THE INTERNET!

@gwynethberdarasupremecy is the person!

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“See you tomorrow, Shadowsinger.” 💙🩵🦇

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TW: NSFW

started as a back study, turned into Gwyn’s legs being thrown over Azriel’s shoulders😂

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Seeing people flood the comments of SJM for elriel just shows their desperation for a ship that is sinking 😭

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Elriels: It was always meant to be 3 brothers and 3 sisters.

Literally SJM: So I wanted to set up Nesta and Lucien-

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Gwyn wasn't on the ACOTAR quiz.

But neither was Emerie.

Yet Tamlin was.

The quiz features the original main cast of the trilogy but it doesn't account for all side characters who could eventually become love interests to those main characters and also included people who we're most likely not getting a POV on.

We all predict Mor will have a love interest but that love interest was clearly not on the Fated Mates quiz which means Gwyn not being on the quiz doesn't mean she can't still end up with Az.

Also, if someone is claiming Gwyn can't receive a pov alongside Az because she wasn't an option, then how exactly is Sarah writing a Lucien / Vassa story when she wasn't one either?

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Feysand: Words of Affirmation

Nessian: Acts of Service

Gwynriel: Physical Touch

Elucien: Gifts

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I find it so weird how people say you shouldn’t hate Elain because of a ship, yet they do it to Gwyn and Lucien…

Like neither one of those characters have done anything wrong besides be put into a ship, and you’re so bothered by the possibility of them happening that you bash them for no reason.

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ELUCIEN | GWYNRIEL — MAASVERSE SPOILERS

I tend to see posts and videos from a multitude of people who seem to be reluctant to accept foreshadowing in the ACOTAR books—specifically regarding the endgame couples to finish out the overall series. As this post is simply beating a dead horse down, I find that it is very much needed as a specific group of people lack the capacity to understand the books.

Foreshadowing is not meant to be obvious. There are, of course, cases where it is relatively obvious, but only within the parameters of back-to-back scenes. Foreshadowing is meant to be picked up on, but to be fully understand later on in the story when everything comes to fruition. Examples of foreshadowing include color descriptions, specific use of language, emphasis on certain scenes, emphasis surrounding specific objects, etc cetera. If something happens obviously and you can read the scene as-is, it is not foreshadowing.

I see many people who ship Elriel claim that there is buildup across the entire series that foreshadows why they will be endgame. As the books do not support that claim, it is outlandish and a spread of misinformation. Allow me to disprove this theory using the books alone:

ACOTAR: Zero interactions between Elain and Azriel as Azriel had not been introduced as a character yet. This book highlighted Feyre surmising that Elain would thrive within the Spring Court, that her sister enjoyed typical emissary work, and instead introduced Lucien as a character.

ACOMAF: This is the first book where Elain and Azriel met, as is this is where many Elriels like to claim that the Elriel build-up begins. However, this book says otherwise. Elain and Azriel’s first meeting is neutral, quiet conversation to ease a tense situation as Nesta/Feyre/Cassian/Rhys were creating an uncomfortable situation and Elain meant to ease it. This book highlighted how in love Azriel was with Mor and how Elain was engaged to Grayson. Many Elriels also claim that the color of Elain’s dress in this first meeting—being cobalt—is indicative of endgame between she and Azriel. However, cobalt is also the signature color of Grayson’s family crest. There interactions die out after that first meeting and instead focus on Feysand again. The throne room scene in Hybern also showed the beginning of Elucien and their mate bond, while Azriel was on the floor reaching for Mor. (I go more into this on my Tik Tok page: @oristian)

ACOWAR: When Feyre returns to the Night Court after her month in Spring, she finds that Elain has been within a catatonic state for the entirety of that month and has shown no signs of recovering—that is, until Lucien came along. Elain began eating and moving around once he came and after tugging on the mating bond, her visions started showing. Everyone likes to credit Azriel for most of this, but all that Azriel did (take her to the garden) was suggested previously by Lucien. Lucien, who was not able to be alone with her due to Nesta and Feyre. Next, everyone tends to say that Azriel “saw” Elain when he named her power. “What we need is …” Contradicts such a thing. Naming a power does not cure someone of their trauma. Lucien is also canonically the first character to take Elain’s visions seriously and went in search of Vassa, ultimately finding Papa Archeron and creating an even deeper connection into the Koschei plot arc with Elain. This is also where we get the iconic half-step on the stair scene.

Elain is now kidnapped by the cauldron portraying itself as Graysen—Elain wanting so badly to be with her previous lover. This is a scene where many Elriels claim that it is supportive of Elriel being endgame. However, it is within character for Azriel. Certainly, Elain being appreciative of being saved and kissing him on the cheek is cute, but that is not enough “foreshadowing” for an endgame. Next, Azriel hands her Truth Teller after Elain refused weapons. Elain is hesitant and only agrees to take it once Feyre chimes in that she will not have to. Juxtapose this with Elain immediately giving it back after the battle is over, not saying a word, and instead falling into conversation with Lucien.

ACOFAS: This is the buffer book that was meant to do two things: Establish Nessian as the next couple, and establish a clear love triangle between Azriel/Elain/Lucien. Elriels use this book to drive the idea of an Elriel endgame. While this book has scenes between Elain and Azriel, there is unfortunately no foreshadowing present enough to support that claim. This novella emphasizes, from a conversation between Rhys and Feyre, that Azriel may be inclined towards Elain due to her having traits that may remind him of his mother (Freud). We also have Solstice where Lucien brings Elain a gift, Elain brings Azriel a gift, but Azriel does not bring Elain a gift. Elain’s gift being superficial and more of a joke than anything truly meaningful to them as a relationship.

ACOSF: The book that ended Elriel. We have this book set up as PRE-BONUS CHAPTER | BONUS CHAPTER | POST BONUS CHAPTER. In the pre-bonus chapter, we have a few scenes between Elain and Azriel that is a glance, or a very small interaction. The infamous scene that Elriels like to use that his shadows actually like Elain is the scene where Cassian says that Nesta upset Elain and his shadows seemed poised to strike. His shadows reacted to his anger, not to Elain. The Solstice scene where Azriel refused to be within the room due to the mating bond between Elain and Lucien and Nesta seeing that he was interested in Elain—which is never brought up again, however we do get a scene post bonus chapter of Nesta encouraging Gwyn and Azriel by calling him the “new ribbon.”

The bonus chapter ended Elriel officially as endgame. The chapter is told from Azriel’s POV and documents his lustful thoughts of Elain and how he wants a mate, hurt and confused why his brothers had two of the Archeron sisters and the third was given away to another male. Rhysand even asking Azriel what his plans are after seducing Elain and Azriel having none “past the fantasies he pleasures himself to.” This is also a chapter where Elriel like to claim that Elriel is a forbidden romance. ACOWAR Rhys clearly objects to this being the case. (I have a video on my Tik Tok going over this @oristian) The bonus chapter then moves to Azriel finding Gwyn, his shadows not warning him of her presence at the HoW. His shadows are curious about her and dance with her breath. Azriel then finds out that Elain rejected his necklace and the next morning finds him re-gifting such to Gwyn. Azriel can picture her eyes lighting up at the gift and he smiles—this is also where mate language is used to describe the spark in his chest at the thought and the glow of the thought. “A thing of secret, lovely beauty.”

Post bonus chapter has zero interactions between Elain and Azriel. The interactions between Azriel and Gwyn are charged and witty. Energetic. This is also where we see Azriel’s siphons glowing darker at the thought of the Valkyries in the Great Rite—the first instance that this has happened.

Next, we go into the last two remaining plot arcs: Koschei and Dusk Court. Both ACOSF and HOFAS have set Nesta up as the driver for the Dusk Court arc, with Azriel as the character to follow. With SJM’s Bloomsbury contract slating her to have two more main books with dual POV romantic interests, the Dusk Court arc book would only make sense having Gwyn and Azriel as the FMC and MMC of that arc. The Koschei arc has been carefully crafted for Elain and Lucien to be the FMC and MMC of that book, with both of them being set up for this since ACOWAR. Elain with her visions of Vassa, the lake, and Koschei’s black box, and Lucien being tied to Papa Archeron and Vassa and the mortals. (I have a video on my Tik Tok that goes more in depth with this @oristian)

SUMMARY: Elain and Azriel do not have multiple books of foreshadowing, a Gwynriel and Elucien endgame is not fanservice, and the remaining two plot arcs do not support an Elriel endgame. If you have any problems with that, take it up with SJM.

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It wasn’t “because I love her”

It was “what if the cauldron was wrong”

And that to me makes all the difference in the world

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Fuck the bat boys, I wanna get up next to three hot redheads.

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I find it crazy that such a side character can make y’all this bothered 💀

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Like they don’t want you to ship Gwyn and Az bc apparently they have no chemistry and Gwyn nor Azriel are interested in each other apparently, yet you ship her with someone she’s never even met…it’s almost like me shipping Elain and Tamlin..

Just found out some Elriels ship Targwyn to get rid of Gwyn as a rival for Elain? And... How tf would Tarquin and Gwyn meet? Why would Gwyn ever have a reason to go to summer? Elriels ship the wildest ships, Vassien and Targwyn, which have ZERO explanation and there's so much evidence that neither will be canon. I-I can't. I mean they're just making shit up at this point. Eluciens and Gwynriels should just stop arguing with them at this point. I mean come on, we know we're right.

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Yet she just put those two things in the same sentence

You know I'd loooove to hear your reasoning behind that miss girl. What about them isn't endgame? Oh right... Sjm totally loves it when her couples are together from the start. Sjm totally hates Lucien, her Jamie Fraser character. Sjm loves couples that have no banter and nothing but sexual tension. Sjm only ever talks about Elain and Azriel as a couple. Sjm wrote Gwyn into Azriel's bonus chapter because she's the next villain. Sjm absolutely DESPISES the mate's trope. mmhmm.