letsgetfuckingrealteam
letsgetfuckingrealteam
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This fandom is chaos, and not in the good way, so here you will find peace and a good debate./Este fandom es caos y destrucción, y no en el mejor sentido. Aquí espero que encuentres paz y un buen debate para tu día.
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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I just finished watching the first episode of season two and O.M.G, I need to sit down, I'm in shock.
That ending is... It left me speechless, please be ready before watching!!
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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Someone puts a suggestion/complaints box on Elias's desk, and even though he doesn't know who did it, he just leaves it there with the thought "I'll just get rid of it later."
He does not
At least not before people put notes in it
"Make Merrick smile more" (and several variations thereof) "Tell Hesh to stay in his goddamn room when he sleep walks, the hallways are MINE between 12 and 3am." "More glitter" "Inform Riley that if he is going to shed he should do it in Hesh or Logan's bed and not mine or my armchair" "More pizza" "Captain Dad should be dad captain Walker's official title" "Make Logan wear collar with bell, he is too quiet. Mute and ninja walks, scares the fucking life out of me." "I think we should add live explosives to our training tracks, for fun."
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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WHAT IF ? Queen Jaehaera Targaryen lived longer and had a daughter named Princess Rhaella Targaryen.
After Queen Jaehaera died and King Aegon III remarried. Princess Rhaella is very close to her stepmother (Queen Daenaera Velaryon) and half-siblings, especially Princess Daena Targaryen.
Princess Rhaella married with Jonnel Stark As a pact of ice and fire made by Prince Jacaerys , Sixth child and heir of Lord Cregan Stark and has two daughters Saena and Mara Stark.
Daemon Blackfyre Love Princess Daenerys and refused to Matchmaking with Rohanne of Tyrosh.But He prefers to marry Lady Saena Stark, daughter of Princess Rhaella. The Blackfyre rebellion did not happen but House Blackfyre was legalized and they had 3 sons and 4 daughters. Meanwhile, Lady Mara Stark is married to Heir to the Lord of House Tully and has 2 sons and 1 daughter.
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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New Debate…
So, you all know the deal, here we go again, because I don't know how to take a decision lately lol
*what she says.
*children (lol)
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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and the dragons danced? masterlist
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When Aegon hears of his fathers death, he makes the decision to fly to Dragonstone and inform his sister.
Rhaenyra is utterly confused when her younger brother arrives and begs for mercy, for reasons she doesn't understand.
The two learn that perhaps they didn't really know their own sibling as well as they thought they did.
chapters below↓
Chapters
(chapters listed with stars open to ao3)
RHAENYRA I
AEMOND I
RHAENYRA II
JACAERYS I
AEGON I
RHAENYRA III
RHAENA I
AEGON II
LUCERYS I
ALICENT I
DAEMON I*
JACAERYS II (in progress)
CAST LIST
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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Oh, okay. So, I'm just supposed to watch Rhaenyra stare unblinking at Alicent and think that little miss blondie DOESN'T want the one with the big brown eyes carnally? Oh, okay.
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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Thank you to everyone who voted!! 💞💞💗💗
Next Debate; What will be?
I leave it to the public to decide what our next topic of conversation will be.
I already have some ready, but I thought your opinion would be good, so let me know what you think should be our next point to discuss.
WINEER: Blood and Cheese: Why take revenge on Aegon and not Aemond?
The survey will last a week, so vote calmly, while I'm going to be at my university buried in books until it's the weekend again lol, which is when I will publish the chosen topic.
If anyone who tags it in the winning post let me know in here.
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See you all later!!
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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🖤!!!!!!!!!!SPOILER HOTD!!!!!!!!!!!💚
💝 HEY!!! I wanted to discuss about house of the dragon, for me i want to believe that in the truth no-one won because everyone is literally dead, and, i like to believe that both side, green and black kinda won in the end, because the black wanted that aegon iii rule and the green wanted that aegon ii be recognised as true king and not rhaenyra, and that's what happens, please if u could tell me if it logical and right i would be honoured and so happy! :) i hope my opinion is still right, and i know that everyone have their own opinion 👑
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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Viserys doted on baby Aegon by pretending he was Baelon but the older Aegon got the more he resembled Alicent and Viserys was forced to accept the reality he was Alicent’s son and not Aemma’s like he wished he was.
He would have loved Aegon so much if he was Aemma’s son. He would have ignored all Aegon’s flaws, no matter how big or little like he does Rhaenyra’s, but Alicent is written all over Aegon.
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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Blood and Cheese: Why take revenge on Aegon and not Aemond?
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Quick Note: This post is not intended to approve or condemn the events we are talking about. Killing children is wrong, and it goes for both sides, let's make that clear. Here I'm just trying to clarify the logic if you want of the line of events, nothing more. Any debate started in comments or reblogs must be respectful, and any aggression will be deleted or blocked.
With the arrival of the second season of House of the Dragon, and the announcement of the episode names, I have seen a lot of debate about the events of Blood and Cheese. A question that I have seen in BOTH TEAMS, enough to finish you off, is: Why not attack Aemond directly? And I have come to ask myself the same question, and I have reached a conclusion that I am going to share with you.
For this, we must analyze the line of events that led to this setup and murder.
When Aegon is crowned, we see, both in series and in books, that it is not the immediate beginning of the war. In reality, both sides sent their messengers and offered terms of peace.
PROOF A). “As her first act as queen, Rhaenyra declared Ser Otto Hightower and Dowager Queen Alicent traitors and rebels, but allowed for her half-siblings to be spared and forgiven if they would bend the knee, since the kinslayer is accursed.” — Dance of the Dragons Wikipedia (1).
PROOF B). “The king was persuaded by his mother and sister-wife, and Orwyle was dispatched to Dragonstone with a retinue under a peace banner, offering Rhaenyra “generous terms”. The terms stated that if Rhaenyra were to bend the knee to King Aegon II, he would confirm her possession of Dragonstone and allow it to pass to her heir, Jacaerys. Her second son, Lucerys, would be recognized as the heir to Driftmark, and her youngest sons would be made the king's squire and cupbearer. Pardons would also be granted to the other Black lords and knights.” — Dance of the Dragons Wikipedia (2).
And it is considered a “War of the Crows”. That is, a war of messengers. Was there a possibility that everything would escalate to war? Yes, but they were not yet at the point of that, but rather of securing alliances and negotiating a possible surrender of the other side. And I genuinely believe that both sides were looking to end this peacefully and without anyone dying. No one wants to go to war with their family, no matter how far apart they are. Nobody wants to go to war, and that's it, it seems to me, especially if you are a ruler, because that doesn't leave you alone in history.
Therefore, both sides send messengers to the lands of Westeros to seek to secure allies. The more allies you have, the more likely it is that the other side will be intimidated or outnumbered and decide to surrender before a real war begins.
On behalf of Rhaenyra, Daemon goes to Harrenhal, which he gets without any conflict (a bit of a threat if you like, what with the whole landing the dragon in the castle courtyard without asking if he could come in or talking to the castle keeper first, but without battle it was at the end of the day), Jace negotiates with the Arryn, Mardelys, and Starks also peacefully, and Lukerys is sent to the Stormlands.
On behalf of Aegon, many messengers were also sent, the same one who supported their cause, but the one we will focus on today is Aemond, who among his negotiations was also sent to the Stormlands.
Both Lucerys and Aemond are there in THE NAME OF THEIR RULERS. Not like them, for personal reasons. Aemond represents Aegon and his claim, and Lucerys represents Rhaenyra and her claim. And what we know happened, happens. Aemond, whether out of revenge or because he lost control of his dragon, as the series does, he killed Lukerys.
So far, Team Black only knows two things: Aemond was on his brother's behalf in the Stormlands when Lucerys arrived there. And now Lucerys is dead.
The greens shed the first blood of the war, so now the bloodbath is coming.
But at this point, does it make sense for them to attack Aegon as revenge for Lucery’s death? Not really, because Aegon at this point could easily have nothing to do with the whole affair. Aemond has had an issue for YEARS with Lucerys, so the chance that he would have made it ALL of his own will is more than possible. And this is what is written in the ASOIAF history books: that Aemond killed Luke for his own vendetta and not under any order of Aegon.
PROOF C). “Borros prevented Aemond from attacking his cousin in the castle, but did allow for the prince to follow him. Mounted on his dragon, Aemond caught up with Lucerys during a raging storm. The fight between the two dragons did not last long. Vhagar, being five times bigger, had the advantage, and Arrax fell broken. His head and neck washed ashore three days later, along with the corpse of Lucerys.”  — Dance of the Dragons Wikipedia (3).
So far, it's all Aemond's fault, without a doubt.
But, this is also where the issue lies: THE FEAST
PROOF D). “Early in the war, Prince Aemond slew Prince Lucerys Velaryon over Storm's End, while Lucerys was attempting to win Borros Baratheon, Lord of Storm's End, over to his mother's side. Upon Aemond's return, having ensured Storm's End's support, Aegon welcomed his brother with a great feast, though Queen Alicent and her father, Ser Otto Hightower, the Hand of the King, were concerned about the extent of Aemond's actions. Seeking revenge against Aegon, Prince Daemon took action.” — Aegon II Targaryen Wikipedia.
Now, the blacks know three things: Aemond was on his brother's behalf in the Stormlands when Lucerys arrived there. Now Lucerys is dead. And Aegon held a GREAT FEAST to celebrate that death. 
So let's review what Team Black knows now:
1). Lucerys and Aemond, representing their rulers, cross paths in the Stormlands.
2). Aemond ends up killing Lucerys, outside of Storm's End, but still under the banner of his ruler's messenger.
3). The news reaches Aegon, who receives Aemond with a banquet for his actions, celebrating the matter.
Now, the package could have JUST been to celebrate Baratheon support, possibly, but the timing isn't great. Here it is not so important what the Greens were really thinking when said banquet was held, but rather how it is seen to the public and consequently how it reaches the Blacks. And I think this is something that Alicent and Otto knew, and could potentially be the reason for their disapproval of the banquet if it really wasn't a celebration of Lucerys' death.
Because let's remember that between the death of Lucerys, Aemond's return to King's Landing and the events of Blood and Cheese, there must be a large amount of time. It is not a series of events over a couple of days or weeks. It's the same year, but it's impossible that it happened less than two months apart, at least. So this is not one thing after the other. Putting that in perspective, Aegon timed Aemond's arrival and organized a banquet with all the honors. Regardless of what the intention was, it looks VERY BAD.
So, it doesn't seem crazy to me that Team Black concluded that Aegon had Lucerys killed and celebrated the success of his brother's mission. And for that, from their perspective, he deserves his particular revenge, giving him the same pain that Rhanerya suffered. No one take out the blame of Aemond, because in the end there was a price on his head, but Aegon, for being the one who gave the “order” and celebrated the death, would have deserved something worse.
For this reason, it seems to me that Aegon and his sons were more cruelly targeted than Aemond. Let us not rule out that if Aemond had children, he would also have received the same treatment and lost one of his dependence, fore sure.
Plus, those kids were his nephews, there's no way he didn't feel that blow too. Don't get a reaction from him in the books, I guess we'll see it in the show, but it would be fair to assume that he would be devastated and furious about what happened. 
So, I do not rule out that there has also been, It may also have been a thing of one rock, two birds.
Thanks to everyone who voted in the poll, I hope this has answered something at least. And if you have another opinion or want to add something, tell me in the comments!!!
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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one thing abt hotd and the ridiculous teams shit in the fandom is vaemond + beesbury’s deaths (vicious ill-advised silencing of a basically-right critic of the queen by their attack dog) and to a lesser extent rhea + joffrey’s deaths (sympathetic character is shockingly killed either publicly or extremely obviously and the murderer doesn’t face any repercussions) are imo meant to be extremely obvious parallels between team black and team green to make you go ohh one ep apart from each other daemon cut the head of a guy criticising rhaenyra in half and criston smashed the head in of a guy criticising alicent maybe these guys and their teams are similar in some way maybe theres a theme about male violence and interchangeability of sides in here. but nobodyy ever does bc ppl acknowledge one to condemn the other team and ignore the other its fucking stupid
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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"Viserys had such handsome children!"
Yeah! Have you seen his wives!
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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Next Debate; What will be?
I leave it to the public to decide what our next topic of conversation will be.
I already have some ready, but I thought your opinion would be good, so let me know what you think should be our next point to discuss.
The survey will last a week, so vote calmly, while I'm going to be at my university buried in books until it's the weekend again lol, which is when I will publish the chosen topic.
If anyone who tags it in the winning post let me know in here.
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See you all later!!
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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Just two hot dragon women. Female Daemon and young Rhaenyra, thanks to the person who made me love them.
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letsgetfuckingrealteam · 1 year ago
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crimes of HOTD s1 characters so far (no book spoilers)
Team Black
Daemon: grooming, murder (2x excluding the stepstones), theft, abuse
Rhaenyra: murder (she was complicit in the murder of that random dude at Driftmark)
Rhaenys: murder of many smallfolk, her wig
Lucerys: slashing Aemond's eye (out of self defense)
Viserys: marital rape, marrying a child, letting his wife get cut open while she was alive without letting her know
Team Green
Otto: murder, encouraging his teenage daughter to marry an adult man, breaking his oaths
Alicent: assaulting Rhaenyra
Aegon: rape, supporting children fighting each other to the death
Aemond: murder (he didn't mean to??), basically saying Rhaena looks like a pig, attempted murder (self defense??)
Crispin: gruesome murder (2x), being a salty b*tch
Larys: murder (3+), feet
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