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Happy belated birthday to the best episode in television history dayum

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I hate how lokius shippers treat them as this wholesome healthy couple when Mobius literally had Loki tortured for god knows how long and never apologized for it, he abused Loki from the beginning, stop being delusional

They trash sylki (with good reasons) but fail to see hiw toxic their own ship is, at least own it instead of sugarcoating every bad thing Mobius does to him

One of my friends IRL (who BTW, has only seen the recent MCU stuff.) : “How could you hate Lokius? It’s such a sweet couple, he helped Loki so much. :(“

Me: *Looks into the imaginary camera.*

Because they're two men.

If Loki was a woman, the concept of the ship wouldn't be a fraction of wanted. I remember the episode where Mobius had Loki beaten and people were gushing that Mobius was "jealous". As in people where excited over the concept, treating as shipping fuel. Again, if Loki was a woman people would be constantly talking about what a creep Mobius was, how controlling and unfair the relationship.

Because it is two men when people read attraction, people don't bother looking critically at the dynamics in the relationship. Do you think anyone would be so excited ship Natasha with a guy had a collar around her neck, mocked her about loved one's death and had her beaten? Even if it was someone johansson had really good chemistry with I don't see that happen.

Yes, ships happen all the time, but if a man treated a woman like Mobius treats Loki people would be tearing it apart. Calling it, calling out how there's no apology or acknowledgement of said bad treatment. In fiction people do view these relationships differently and when it's men on the receiving end of abuse people tend to way more likely to miss and ignore it

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I clicked on the link for the first fic last week and only now I'm back here, I became so obsessed with it that I haven't been able to do anything other than read it, whenever I had free time I found myself back at ao3 and I couldn't stop reading it, I just finished it and I want more, seriously READ IT, It's probably the best fanfiction I ever read in my whole life, words aren't enough to describe how much of a masterpiece this fic is, I love with my whole heart and I already want to reread it!

Buddy Request: are you a Loki obsessed high fantasy lover?

I would really like to connect with fellow Loki fans who want to rant about/analyze Loki and Thor's psychology, family dynamics, Asgardian society, Jotunheim, magic/seiðr, and the Nine Realms. Ideas/thoughts that aren't canon-compliant with the MCU are more than welcome!

Here are some fics with these types of themes that I have thoroughly enjoyed and been inspired by:

Ásgarðrian Galdr by Valerie_Vancollie

Bargaining by proantagonist ( @proantagonista ) [thank you SO MUCH for the rec @alwida10!]

Frostbite by Maiden_of_Asgard

Once More With Empathy by Kairyn ( @bfaymiller )

A Fairytale Beginning by the_lady_amphitrite ( @the-lady-amphitrite )

Let me set the scene:

For the past year and a half, I've been working on developing a longfic featuring a Thor 2011 Loki and an OC Sigyn. Honestly, I don't think that I'll get around to posting it anytime soon (there's still so much work to be done on it), but it's constantly on my mind. It's sort of a hybrid concept of the MCU, Norse Mythology, my own ideas, OCs, and magic systems. It has an epic scope with multiple arcs and characters from most of the Nine Realms. Do you like characters with wings? I got you covered. An imminent threat to the Nine Realms? Check. An in-depth analysis of Ásgarðr and Jǫtunheimr's history uncovered during Loki's identity crisis? A Jǫtunn OC? A Laufey that never wanted to lose his child? Check, check, and check.

I've found it hard to talk to people about all this because it involves a LOT of worldbuilding. Epic fantasy definitely isn't for everyone and this will not be a "light" read. Some non-fanfic stories that have inspired me along the way include the Roots of Chaos series by Samantha Shannon (The Priory of the Orange Tree and A Day of Fallen Night) and Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien. So if you like those types of stories, you might like the ideas I come up with.

If you relate to anything I've said, I also want to mention that I would love to hear about your ideas as well! If you feel trapped inside your own head and feel hesitant to "info-dump" on people, I am the person for you. And hey, maybe we can inspire each other :) Fanfiction is not about gatekeeping, and I have been unabashedly inspired by so many different takes on Loki that I've read along the way.

Sending this out into the Tumblr void, hoping it finds the right people!

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I'm of the opinion that MCU!Loki would be far more willing to die to save MCU!Frigga than the other way around (even if she's interpreted as genuinely caring for him), and it has fucked up angst potential.

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Arrogance vs. Humility: Loki

In the first part of meta the arrogance of Thor and Loki and how it shows itself in different ways was analyzed. In this part I want to focus on Loki's arrogance and his humility arc in the series.

The og post that inspired this meta, and many fans, believe that Loki didn't need a humility arc and I originally agreed with them. Sure Loki was arrogant sometimes but it wasn't that bad for him to need to become humble. @geehollow 's meta and the study about arrogance changed my mind though. There were certain aspects I had overlooked or underestimated their importance.

As it was explained, the first movie puts Loki's strength, his intelligence in contrast to Thor's physical strength. Thor's arrogance is easily recognizable because of Thor's extrovert boastful attitude. Loki's not so much. That doesn't mean Loki can't be just as arrogant. Unawareness of one's intellectual limits spans components 2 through 5 of arrogance.

An overconfidence in one’s own knowledge and ability (Component 2) is tied together with an underconfidence in the knowledge or ability of others, producing a feeling of intellectual superiority (Component 5). The intermediate components (3, resisting new information about oneself, and 4, not taking the perspectives of others) appear to be bridges between Components 2 and 5. For example, individuals low in honesty-humility (presumably high in arrogance) are also less likely than others to make cooperative decisions (Zettler, Hilbig, & Heydasch, 2013).

These two paragraphs perfectly describe Loki's reasoning and planing through the first movie and later during Avengers. In avengers from the very first moment he tries to gather enough knowledge of his opponents and neutralize their threats. But the little seemingly unimportant details that he misses and an overestimation of his abilities result in his defeat.

In the series, most notably in the finale he does it again. Perhaps if he can fix the mistakes, the uncounted incidents, consider every possible outcome that things can go wrong, he can save the people he cares about. What if he spend centuries learning knowledge? What if he tries to stop Sylvie in every way he can think of? But none of his plans work. The loom was designed in a way to counter every possible outcome that results in new branches.

And it all comes down to the question how to decide who lives and who dies? With all the knowledge, abilities and experiences Loki has gained through his constant time slipping, he can't answer this question. And that humbles him. It's a question he can't answer and a burden he can't accept. But he can give the chance of free will and freedom to people to write their own stories.

When Loki makes his decision, it is not resulted from a desire to prove himself to someone, or a desperation for control or a sense of superiority. It is a decision born out of love, selflessness and believing in himself with full awareness of the limits of his knowledge and abilities. This intellectual humility shows itself in the wonder and wisdom in his expression when he tries to power a thread of time for the first time. And his decision is in complete contrast to HWR's selfishness and arrogance. In the end Loki has all the knowledge of multiverse at his fingers but without a shred of arrogance for it and I think it's a beautiful arc.

Source: Foundations of Arrogance: A Broad Survey and Framework for Research

Previous: Thor

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This is breathtaking, my god what a masterpiece

GOD LOKI - TV SERIES / SEASON 2 | FAN ART | (2024)

💚 #Loki

Art by: @oladcnfthb

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TOM HIDDLESTON as LOKI LAUFEYSON

LOKI (2021) | 2.06 ‘Glorious Purpose’

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God what beautifully written post, thank you for sharing your thoughts about the finale, this post is amazing ❤️

A Glorious Culmination

Let's talk about that perfect ending with its beautiful scenes and epic soundtrack, shall we? Here's all the reasons why I loved it:

The ending answered the question "what makes a Loki, Loki?"

"Authority, independence, style". Sure, but that's not all of it. And it's not the real answer.

So who is Loki? A villain? A loser? What defines Loki?

There are many characteristics that define Loki but one of the main ones that truly sets him apart imo is that he is a catalyst for change. Loki when faced with options he doesn't like, or a problem that looks like doesn't have a solution, makes a new way, creates a new solution, chooses an option that didn't exist before.

He has the power to destroy, like the mythological tale of Ragnarok.

And to give life. Like how the Ragnarok he brings, means the beginning of a new cycle in Norse mythology.

-"Yeah it was the best character development. Loki went from wanting a throne to..."

Let me stop you there.

Loki went from not wanting a throne but thinking he must have it to be considered worthy and an equal to Thor, to taking a throne despite not wanting it, because it was the right thing to do.

The fact that Loki sacrificed himself once again for the people he loved and cared about, wasn't a new character development. In the movies Loki risks and sacrifices himself every time when it matters. For Thor, for Asgard, for the world. The only development here was that this time he sacrificed himself for every universe there is.

And his sacrifice wasn't treated as sth he deserved by the narrative because of every terrible things he'd done. On the contrary the narrative acknowledges that this is the last thing Loki deserves. That he is paying for others' mistakes and wrongs. He spends centuries to save the timelines. He spends a long time trying to stop Sylvie without harming her. And when everything seems lost, he makes a decision to save everyone but himself, he creates a different path. He faces his deepest fear, to not hurt the people he loves.

If there is any character development, it's for the narrative and the audience that finally recognized who Loki actually is.

The Symbolism

I have to say my first reaction to the new Loki costume was:" This is the worst Loki costume ever :))))" also me two days later: "I'm gonna set it as my wallpaper." But I loved the symbolism. The biggest horns Loki's ever worn to show the weight of the crown. His cape that was connected to timelines, to show the burden of a throne. The simplicity in his clothes in contrast with his other outfits. Because this wasn't about the recognition Loki always wanted and deserved. This was about the responsibility Loki decided to literally put on his shoulders and feeling the gravity of it.

His shoes though :)))) I mean

Either let him be bare footed or give him boots you cowards :D

The Parallels

The fact that how the ending parallels the first Thor movie and everything came back full circle.

How Thor and Loki destroyed sth at the cost of themselves losing the people they cared about.

Loki doing sth not because of a desperation for acceptance, not because he thought it was sth someone else wanted.

Knowing if he chose the easier way, no one could have fault him for it because it seemed there was no other way.

He did it because he knew it was the right thing to do, because he knew who he wanted to be.

Loki not giving up, not letting go, not falling down from a broken bridge, but ascending, holding on as he fixes what's broken.

He holds and carries the whole universe on his back. It's not only a beautiful Atlassian tragedy, but also parallels Norse mythology in more than one way. Yggdrasil, the tree of life in Norse mythology, the one that Loki holds in his hands in the finale, wasn't the only parallel in the ending.

There's a subtle and beautiful nod to Norse mythology. The tale of Loki being bound till Ragnarok. The myth that says when Loki gets freed, the end of the world begins.

What a marvelous tragedy. And what a glorious culmination.

It's not all tragic though

Loki now is literally the most powerful and heroic character in MCU. He's holding the universe in his hands and keeping it alive. You can't top that.

And it makes his portrayal in the recent movies in which he was unfairly underpowered, even more ridiculous than before and that makes me happy :D

There is also a possibility to see Loki again and I'm not talking about the other variants. Marvel now has the best dues ex machina through Loki. He might be able to appear in any universe as an illusion to warn about dangers or help the characters. He might figure out a way to keep the tree alive without being there himself. That way he can find Thor in the sacred timeline. Or maybe the Loki who survived Thanos and is still in the sacred timeline finds Thor. Maybe there's still hope for a good reconciliation and a good story for Asgardian siblings.

So to sump up this was an epic, symbolic, beautiful and tragic ending. And yet hopeful. I loved it💚

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If Loki hadn't found out he was adopted and had a identity crisis/mental breakdown, how do you think he would have 'cleaned up his brother's mess'?

//This is a touuuugh question! I really don’t believe Loki’s pathology is innate. Meaning, I don’t think he was “born evil.”  I believe he was born with the capability to be deceitful and manipulative, but even those traits could be used in the service of good or to innocuous ends.  In other words, I don’t think that, without the trauma of learning of his true heritage, having his father go into a coma, and having his brother exiled, leaving him in the unfit position of king during the eve of war, Loki would have ever spiraled down a series of increasingly desperate actions including keeping Thor exiled and eventually trying to commit fratricide.  Certainly he would not have even known to kill Laufey or had the nervous breakdown that gave him the idea that killing all the Frost Giants would somehow ritualistically cleanse his blood and make him a “true” Son of Odin. 

The caveat here, though, is that Loki is too clever to remain ignorant of his true parentage forever. Sooner or later, he would have to have faced the reality of his adoption.  Here is where I heavily blame Odin.  First off, we can argue till the cows come home about the extent to which Odin always wanted to use his younger son as a political tool.  I would argue that this was always in the cards for Odin, and his love for Loki, or anyone really, is conditional upon them always deferring to his will—and when Loki unexpectedly shed his passivity and defied Odin directly, it was necessary for Odin to turn Loki into a “villain” and “Other” in the eyes of Asgard, blowing his acts on Earth way out of proportion at least by the standards of an Asgardian war king (propaganda and ideological tyranny at its best, but I digress).  Odin wanted Loki to be his puppet King of Jotunheim when Loki came of age, to maintain treaties with Jotunheim after the war in 965 A.D.  When that became unnecessary, I fully believe Odin never had any intention to tell Loki that he was a (supposedly) rejected Frost Giant prince. Best to keep the now unneeded artifact of an enemy culture suppressed and pacified.  Best to keep him forever in the shadow of the Crown Prince, forever his  negative mirrored counterpart.

If Odin had only informed Loki in a timely and sensitive manner of his heritage, I genuinely believe that, while Loki would have taken it hard, he would not have interpreted Odin’s will as the snubbing of the dirty Jotun orphan, would not have felt such a desperation to please and belong, would not have had cosmically magnified daddy issues and self-loathing projected outward onto Thor (because Thor would not represent all the things Odin loved and Loki could not be) and all that Thor loved and protected (like Midgard).  Loki would certainly never have been a saint, but it’s quite possible that he would never have become a vindictive antagonist of this magnitude.  

The problem with all of this is that Odin’s intentions were never genuinely selfless, fatherly, or benevolent, not toward Loki. Not, I argue honestly, toward anyone but Odin, because is there anyone that Odin loves who defies him on a regular basis? No one. Not Frigga, certainly not Thor, whom Odin sanctioned to DIE (“stop them by ANY MEANS NECESSARY”) when Thor simply tried to escape Asgard to retrieve the Ether and save Jane Foster’s life without sending half of the Einherjar like lambs to the slaughter in the process (like Odin would).  Since Odin, like his father Bor before him, is genuinely a tyrant, and this tyranny extends into his personal relationships at the very least in the form of gaslighting and psychological abuse, we can never know what Loki would have done, because there IS NO SCENARIO in which Odin would have done the right thing by his adopted son.  

I am convinced that, while he didn’t necessarily WANT Loki to die, Odin also on some level felt it a lifted weight when Loki fell off the Bifrost into a wormhole.  And when Loki was alive again, it was FRIGGA who pushed for his rescue and THOR who went to find him, as the official film comics show us, NOT Odin. And I KNOW Odin saw Loki’s botched attempt to overtake Earth (the motives of which are a whole controversy in their own right) as as an opportunity to slap chains on him and exile him to rot in a dungeon.  The logistical mistake forgotten, written off as a scapegoat, a “screw up son,” “oh we tried SO HARD to love him but his greed for a throne was too great” (I call BULLSHIT Odin, remember when your son said to his brother “I NEVER WANTED THE THRONE, I ONLY EVER WANTED TO BE YOUR EQUAL”????).  

People always say Loki is a case of self-fulfilled prophecy. I used to honestly be one such person, despite still seeing him in an empathetic light.  Well, now I say yes and no.  Yes, Loki is still his own worst enemy.  Yes, Loki has what cognitive psychology terms a “hostile attribution bias,” meaning he does see slights and wrongdoings where they might not exist. BUT. But. Loki’s not “just evil and crazy” LIKE SOME PEOPLE WANT HIM TO THINK.  Odin and the culture that Odin has sewn and reaped with his position of uncontested socio-military authority has very carefully cultivated a society in which people like Loki could never thrive, no matter how much they try to do the right thing. Because the right thing is inevitably rigged to favor big masculine physically strong violent hotheads, not  little feminine weak calculating scholars who practice traditionally female arts (such as witchcraft/Seidr).  And we can never know exactly what Loki would do if Odin hadn’t fucked up telling him about Laufey being his father, because the Odin who would fuck up is the same Odin who would spend Loki’s childhood making him a device to compete with and groom Thor.  The Odin who would break the truth to Loki at an inopportune interval is the same Odin who would raise Loki to be the insecure person he is today.  

For Loki to act differently than he did, in short, ODIN would have to be a FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT CHARACTER.  

We can’t really say how Loki would have cleaned up Thor’s mess, because there’d be no mess to clean up if Odin had raised his sons  differently. Loki wouldn’t be the insecure sneaky prick who staged a prank Jotun party-crashing to ruin Thor’s coronation.  And Thor would not be a pompous entitled prick who would go storming into Jotunheim as a result to start the war. Loki would never see his hand turning blue, and Thor would never be exiled leaving no buffer between Loki and the stress of rule.  Frankly, it’s likely that if Odin had been a good father, he would have told Loki with Frigga’s coaching when Loki was far younger about Laufey and Farbauti.  He would not feel like his heritage was some dirty unspeakable taboo from which he should be “protected” (Odin’s actual word choice).  

I’m sorry, I hope this doesn’t seem like one big long copout, but we need other hypotheticals in here for me to even answer this.  Like, Odin takes Parenting 101 and gets a personality. 8^/ lol. 

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odin is like “when thor was born the sun shone bright upon his beautiful face. i found loki on the sidewalk outside a taco bell”

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I swear I'm not trying to be one of those annoying Loki fans but it bothers me so much how he's treated as some weak, stupid asshole who can be easily defeated by two mortals, sure one of them is a super soldier but still, Loki could've easily killed Steve in 2012 when he held the scepter to his neck, if he used the sharp end cap would be decapitated and now I'm supposed to believe he can be easily handled by those two? "You go high I go low" just cut the crap and get tf out of my face

#punchable face

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This is so sweet 🥺

Thor looked down at the box in his hands, and then looked back up at Jane.

“Jane, these are yours,” he said, his voice rough.  "They were gifts, not part of the crown jewels.“

She looked down at the box as well, unable to meet his eye.  "Your people need the money you could get for these more than I need jewelry… and I need to move on.”

“I am humbled by your generosity yet again,” Thor said softly, opening the jewelry box and removing a small necklace from the pile of glittering jewels.

 "But if you won’t keep them as a token of my love, please keep this one as the thanks of a man you guided when he was lost.“  

Jane looked at the fine chain where it dangled between his fingers, a tiny crystal star glittering where it swayed between them, before daring to look up and meet that bright blue eye.

"Please,” Thor whispered.

Other parts: Part 2 - Part 3 - Part 4

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Infinity War and how it made Sunflowerchester write meta no one asked for but she did anyway…

Hey gang! 

I rarely write meta anymore but I got so riled up after Infinity War that I rambled on and on in a Google doc after my 2nd viewing. So here, I thought I’d share it with my dash bc some have said they’re curious. sorry

I have 3 major issues with Infinity War, but lots of articles are touching on two of them, so I decided to cover the one left. I admit, this is honestly my biggest problem with the movie and it has to do with Captain America, so if you are a Cap fan and don’t like constructive, text-based criticism about him, you should probably not read this. I swear there is no hate present. I’m not trying to be a dick about anything but I’m sure to many, it’ll seem that way. 

Below are about 4 straight pages about why “We don’t trade lives” is a sham and why/how it causes all kinds of problems for a multitude of reasons in Infinity War. Cut for spoilers! 

Keep reading

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Infinity War and how it made Sunflowerchester write meta no one asked for but she did anyway…

Hey gang! 

I rarely write meta anymore but I got so riled up after Infinity War that I rambled on and on in a Google doc after my 2nd viewing. So here, I thought I’d share it with my dash bc some have said they’re curious. sorry

I have 3 major issues with Infinity War, but lots of articles are touching on two of them, so I decided to cover the one left. I admit, this is honestly my biggest problem with the movie and it has to do with Captain America, so if you are a Cap fan and don’t like constructive, text-based criticism about him, you should probably not read this. I swear there is no hate present. I’m not trying to be a dick about anything but I’m sure to many, it’ll seem that way. 

Below are about 4 straight pages about why “We don’t trade lives” is a sham and why/how it causes all kinds of problems for a multitude of reasons in Infinity War. Cut for spoilers! 

Continuar lendo

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Does anyone else really want to see this new, empathetic Loki connect with Thor again - so Thor can have the brother he's longed for, and Loki can let his guard down with his brother. Even if just for a minute?