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Imo I think that its more metaphorical representation of edwin, fiona and david. With edwin as the moon, fiona as the sun and david as the baby bird. This most likely represents their personalities and story. Though if it was more literal it would be very interesting to learn more about the sun and moon being a mimic varient or something of the like.

( also just remembered that game theory might have called sun and moon being similar to the mimic but then again its game theory )

This minigame fucked me up the first time I saw it, like Moon?? Sun?? Tf?? And now I look back on it, the story its telling is not difficult if you replace the characters in the game with their counterparts.

sotm spoilers !!!

chat what the fuck does this mean

*i mean ik what it means in relation to the mimic and fiona and david etc. but what does it mean for my dca boys....

We know fallfest burned down and og Fiona died there, and most parts of the Moon.exe game use Sun as a representative figure for Fiona and aren't actually about Sun as a character himself.

like, I get that the "this is where the Sun left, leaving them behind" line when handing over a fallfest ticket is very clearly about Fiona and not actually Sun, but i wonder if the reason they chose Sun to represent her was because he too was destroyed there, and that thats supposed to signify a parallel of Edwin losing Fiona/Moon losing Sun?

we know from help wanted that the dca was at fall fest, and this bit about rebuilding Moon as split/plural, specifically highlighting that he's only now like that after being rebuilt, makes me wonder if that was a decision made after Sun was destroyed in the fallfest incident?

(disregarding that the fallfest minigame dca appears in is in fact Moon fronting while everything is on fire, meaning that if they were separate then they were both there- or if they were combined then their being rebuilt as one happened before fallfest, and doesnt quite fit with the "oh they used Sun to represent Fiona because they both died there and left their other halves behind" theory. idkkkk how to fit these two game lores together </3. also dont know how canon help wanted is supposed to be) i feel like this choice in storytelling is very deliberate and significant somehow, but it very well could be "lets add sun/moon in somewhere because the fans are crazy about them" without deeper lore implications. (*as of writing this op has not looked at the new help wanted update they heard rumors about dropping this month)

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someone pointed out that while sun and moon represent fiona/edwin, and the baby owl as david, and we the player character put on the owl(david) mask to make moon(edwin) cry- we're supposed to be playing as the mimic in moon.exe

and after fixing the more modern-Moon statue, helpy refers to it as us, saying we fixed ourselves, (nod to the mimic fixing its legs?) but also implying we, as the mimic, are now both sun and moon.

Because the mimic is mimicking both the late Fiona and Edwin now, and learned positive and negative traits from the both of them.

as far as the real Sun and Moon that we know in sb, i'm not sure if this is all just metaphorical and they're being used to showcase parallels or simply tell a story (they are made for theater after all, storytelling is their thing)-

or, if taken a tad more literally, if its trying to hint that they're a mimic. (but not the mimic, as that one is locked beneath the plex for Ruin. But we know there were other attempts at trying to make more?)

anyways idk how literal we can take Moon.exe in regards to dca-specific lore, since the pair's involvement is very much just used as stand-ins to represent other characters. but by god am i desperate for crumbs with these two

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“Who taught you how to laugh?”

“Who taught you how to cry?”

I can’t remember the exact lines but honestly that really sad that kris lived in such a bad home situation that they relied on the tv to raise them. Using television as a coping mechanism to escape from life is something we all do technically.

Kris is a really tragic character that they are a child of divorce and on top of not the best life, they don’t get any free will and are a puppet to a higher being and no matter how they stuggle they can’t truly be free or themselves. But the worst part, is that not only do people not question or anything wrong, is that kris’ live is subjectivity better after the heart controled them. They have friends and people to rely on now. They now can go on adventures and have fun. But Kris themselves didnt do that, the heart did. Are those friends and memories even kris’ or are they the heart’s? The only person who noticed anything was noelle in the snowgrave route and in the normal route theres only a small conversation and worse, in the same conversation Susie thinks of this Kris as how Kris usually is. Susie never truly met the real Kris, only the heart.

Man deltarune is such a good game. Toby wrote a slient protag in such an interesting way.

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In Silver’s bday vignette he says that he doesn’t wash his face/wear makeup often and the other Diasomnia students say that they’re jealous since he doesn’t have to try to look good because he just does naturally

Bro starts sparkling when he finally combs his hair 😭. If he was real being near him would piss me off. He literally does absolutely nothing besides fix his bed head and light descends upon him like he’s god’s favorite creation

If he actually started giving a shit about his appearance he’d have too much power. They had to nerf him by making him too sleepy to ever give af

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Homicipher stuff

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after replaying a thousand times to confirm every word, cross referencing and asking my japanese friend specifications (because some words in japanese that are in the dictionary just. dont exist in english in some cases) THIS is i think the closest i could get to a near perfect dictionary, if you wanna try it and you find anything odd feel free to tell me since i'm using it along with the jpn dictionary as a base for the mod i'm making. i tried to explain any that were confusing but tbh playing this game on english is truly hard mode lol! And yes! Some words are redundant, it's a japanese translation issue, i tried to give them nuance?? Both honestly some words are so simmilar it may as well be the same in english..

'resident' is their specie, it's the fan given name so i used it

'Somebody' refers to a living being, a presence, it can be of any specie, it's broad

'Weak' is moreso untalented (to be bad at something)

'Frail(weak)' is more like vulnerable, physically weak/brittle, subject to damage

'Affliction' is because it can be disease or a curse, something that eats away at the health/body/mind, that needs to be 'cured'

'Incapacitate' is something like 'weaken', to make someone unable to hurt or move for example, or to lower their autonomy

'Like' can also be 'love', japanese doesn't really differenciate

'Different' is also 'wrong', they're the same word, it's confusing ik but essentially think of it as 'it's a different answer', sort of a more gentle version of 'you're wrong' . Again this is a jpn/english issue thing..

'I understand' and 'i will do it' are also rlly a japanese thing. Both sort of mean in a way 'i understand and am acknowledging what you said' ... but this is the closest me and my jpn friend could settle on.

'Hit' and 'knock' are the same. In japanese you say 'hit a door' more than 'knock a door'. That's why they're used interchangeably

'Distressed' is sort of like 'in trouble' , in need of help

'Feel' may also be 'think', i'm not quite sure on this one

'Room' and 'home' are also weirdly interchangeable

All the verbs are placed in neutral forms (ex: to search, to find, to go, to lead, to want, etc)

THERE IS A CANON DICTIONARY. It's in the game code and it's in jpn. This is just my personal approximation.

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windows in chinese suzhou gardens by 六毛钱的月亮

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when the clock strikes midnight i better be seeing those mpreg fics flooding ao3 to ring in the dawn of mother's day

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Got to experience my first trust event with Hugo and it was preceded by this one where Hugo, in disguise, had to leave a banquet after his target didn't attend. Lycaon was there, and sent Butler to return Mockingbird's calling card and like... Help, why did Hugo ask Butler if Lycaon said something about him and this interaction happened?

Ofc Hoyo had to add the "Lycaon notices the slightest change of Hugo's scent" and even Robin pointing out that he still cares. But that's not all, this suddenly turned into a Butler/Robin scene because Robin always takes the chance to shoot his shot.

And the best part is that Hugo already gave them his blessing

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WELCOME HOME BABYGIRL. YOU TOOK YOUR DAMN TIME.

A new addition to this post! (Minus the cel shading cause I forgot I used it)

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it doesn't go both ways

(based on lighter's trust event)

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Hugo’s Banner Isn’t Out Yet, But…

If we have to wait almost a year for his rerun, we know why…

It doesn’t matter if it’s something that is simply facts about the flower, Hugo literally knows word for word what Lycaon must’ve said. Lycaon on the other hand started immediately thinking if Hugo had giving us the flowers because he remembered a flower that he associated with Hugo. They’re in each other’s minds and we don’t know how many times they thought of each other while they were divorced.

Hugo freaking stole for Lycaon. Just to make sure Lycaon’s and Victoria Housekeeping’s reputation wasn’t tarnished by one client. Yes, it was also because he wanted to troll a greedy person, but like, he didn’t have to go all out for this and steal a dangerous flower when he could’ve just conned someone by making a fake Nineveh, but he did. He did all of that just to give Lycaon the plant.

And they ditched us. They left us behind for whatever reason… I remember now, New Eridu technically does have Love Hotels. One of which is near Starloop. Well, Hugo does want to ruin the Ravenlock bloodline, might as well just add Wolf Thiren to the bloodline to humiliate the family even further.

And they ditched Vivian! They literally ditched her and left her with the flowers. Though, I think she did expect it to happen. Well Vivian, you might get Lycaon as family soon.

As an added bit: Robin, Hugo’s Bangboo, simping over Butler, the Victoria Housekeeping Bangboo.

Yup, Hugo’s Bangboo is head over heels in love for Butler the same way Vivian is in love with Phaethon.

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HUGO'S BANBGOO IS IN LOVE WITH LYCAON'S BANGBOO????

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They need to be LOCKED UP and forced to breed each other.

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“stop forcing these ships, hoyo doesn’t know what they’re-“

yes they do. they do know what they’re doing.

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In one of the random hangout events with Vivian (the ones where you just find the character in a random place) The kid from Lycaons story quest (the one where hugo is revealed) is buying a fanfiction book about Hugo Vlad being captured by ravenlocks and then saved by his ex friend rival.

And then they ask you if you think Hugo and Lycaon have a similar relationship.

THERE IS IN UNIVERSE FANFICTION ABOUT LYCAHUGO.

I FUCKING LOVE ZZZ

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pact partners who slay together stay together

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WAIT HE CAN JUST DO THAT??? HOW OFTEN HAS HE BEEN DOING THAT AND WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW???

WHY DID THEY JUST GLOSS OVER THIS PART I WANNA KNOW MORE

(Demon King Who? [Card] NB)