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[nathan-mackinnon]

so i just got on tumblr for the first time in months, and i saw that an old clip (here) of vince dunn saying the n word had circulated. i was the original poster of this vid in may of 2020 and i just wanted to clear some stuff up and reiterate everything.

this clip is from vince dunn’s twitch livestream, and it’s him saying the n word while singing along to the song. some people have said that they can’t really hear it, but it matches up to the lyrics, he makes kind of an oh shit face right after, and honestly i hear it pretty clearly, so idk what to say on that. i also really don’t think whether or not it’s okay for a white person to say the n word in any context is up for debate.

he was streaming with three other streamers, aircool and two others whose names i can’t remember, a guy and a girl. the girl immediately told him that he can’t say that on stream, and to which he responded “say what???” and this was pretty much the theme for the night. he repeatedly insisted that he’d never said it, and aircool backed him up. other people clearly did hear it, though, because people were talking in chat about how they should keep this quiet to protect his career (lmao). either way, he insisted he didn’t say it, and was very upset that people were “mad at him.”

i clipped it when it happened, and the clip ended up being at the top of his page. when he realized this, he asked his mod if he could take it down, which he did, and he also took the entire vod (the recording of the stream) down, which he hadn’t in past streams. he also checked twitter, which i think spurred the whole “everyone is mad at me :(” shtick. i’ve seen a lot of people surprised that they didn’t hear about this earlier, and that would be why - his chat was very explicitly not mad at him and actively tried to cover it up.

some people have asked for clips/proof of the harassment towards the girl who called him out, and i don’t really have anything to offer there. it was just a really uncomfortable stream in its entirety, even before the n word incident. i think aircool and his other friend were primarily responsible for the bullying, but vince was definitely complicit and played it up. he was doing a lot of like crazy gestures (spinning his finger around his head) and side eyes whenever she talked, and at one point someone in his chat called her a crazy bitch and he read it out loud and nodded. i kind of got the vibe that he wanted to join in with the guys but also wanted to avoid looking like a complete asshole. later, they for some reason decided to spam her chat, and vince told his chat to spam her too, which is when a lot of the insults and death threats were sent. she apologized to vince after this and said she must’ve misheard, but given the situation i don’t think that apology is that reliable.

i honestly don’t think it’s possible to “call out” an athlete like this, and i don’t think he’s every going to face repercussions. and to me, saying the n word is only part of what makes this so shitty - it was also the constant doubling down, trying to erase all evidence, and encouraging his fans to attack the other streamer. i’m posting about this because it happened, it was bad, and this is an athlete that a lot of people look up to. obviously i have no control over who people support, and if you choose to continue supporting him, that’s fully on you. but i really encourage you to think about the media you consume and the relationship you have with public figures that you follow. this shit happens, and these people are not your friends.

[nathan-mackinnon]

i'm not on here much anymore but i'm more active on twitter @ roughingminor :)

[nathan-mackinnon]

i'm not on here much anymore but i'm more active on twitter @ roughingminor :)

[nathan-mackinnon]

Care to write down the problematic players and what they did?? Like I'm new to this and there are a lot of players that are shitty and as usual ppl don't talk about

i don’t really have any kind of comprehensive list, there are just certain players that i avoid..tbh i feel kind of uncomfortable making a call out list or anything like that. if i were you i’d do some research and see what’s been going on. a lot of this is not as cut and dry as like “this player was recorded to have said a slur yesterday” it’s a lot more subjective you feel? i’d start with kane, seguin, and lemieux, and just go from there

[nathan-mackinnon]

I don't usually say I'm sorry when I ended up being rude in situations like this, I mean we have to start accepting the indignation of those who are truly affected by that. There's a man saying the N-word and not being called out and I'm the rude one for trying to show it?! Lmao cmon we have sm to learn and it shows...

lmao exactly...........i don’t want ppl to feel like they’re being attacked and at the end of the day i understand that the person the most in the wrong is vince for saying that but we have to recognize that the ppl we admire can make mistakes and saying the n word is definitely a mistake

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We drag the woman and defend the poor boys as always right?! 🤡🤡🤡

it’s true lmao..................

[nathan-mackinnon]

All of this is coming from someone who supports Alex Galchenyuk and Mitch marner LOL i should’ve guessed

i haven’t posted consistently on this blog in months, but if you think that either of them have behaved in racist/otherwise fucked up ways please tell me bc i do want to know

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Wow you keep preaching maturity and act all high and mighty yet your answers to some of these anons really don’t make you look good sis🥴 enjoy the view up on that high horse of yours !

thank you! i’m sorry if i hurt your feelings that was not my intention it’s just that idk how else to explain to you that it’s not okay for white ppl to say the n word :)

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”encouraged his chat to call the girl calling him out a crazy bitch, repeatedly claimed he didn’t say it, and then told his chat to spam her chat where they proceeded to tell her to kill herself” wait are you fr?! I did not know about it- 😳 damn that's fucked up

yeah i think a lot of ppl felt weird abt it, and tbf the other ppl he was playing were the ones saying the really nasty stuff abt the girl, but it was still uncomfortable. the entire chat was calling her annoying and stupid the entire stream for no reason and he was really playing it up

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I’m not defending him for what he said because saying the n word in any context as a non black person is not okay but people Fr need to chill. The people bending over backwards to find him guilty of it as if I committed a murder need to cool it a bit. He needs to accept that what he did was wrong but doesn’t need to be bullied by some teenage girls on a website 😂 some ppl need a life I stg

“i’m not defending him but watch me defending him and also i think ppl who are telling him he shouldn’t say the n word need to chill”

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guys vince dunn is fun to watch on twitch but he’s not your friend and you have nothing to gain from defending him saying a racial slur. i promise he’s not going to see that you defended him on tumblr dot com and show up to your house to smooch you there’s just no reason to be licking his boots

[nathan-mackinnon]

vince didn’t even say the word i was watching his twitch and the girl later apologized bc she said she thought she had heard him 🥴

there’s a video of him saying it and it matches perfectly with the actually song if you’ve ever heard it. she was literally being harassed by 3 different chats and being sent death threats i think she just apologized to get ppl off her back

[nathan-mackinnon]

2/2 I’m not defending him I’m just saying why is everyone obsessed with “cancelling” everyone over genuine mistakes when there are actual people in the world using the n word as a slur against black people and doing actual bad things? In this case I think he’s just an ignorant white boy who likes rap and just forgot to not sing a lyric out loud. Nothing spiteful, not a hate crime, just a mistake. Stop trying to cancel people who don’t need to be cancelled it’s immature

is there a single place where i ““cancel”” him?? am i telling ppl that they need to burn their dunn jerseys and unfollow his twitch stream?? why are you so obsessed with this idea that i’m coming out to attack and cancel him when i’ve made it so clear that my issue is

(1) that he said the n word (and it doesn’t matter if you think other ppl are doing more racist stuff that doesn’t make it okay). people make mistakes and say stuff they shouldn’t all the time, it’s part of being a person, but he immediately insisted he didn’t say it, deleted all clips of him saying it, and kept saying that ppl were being mean to him. this is NOT how you approach a mistake that you made.

(2) ppl are literally pretending that he didn’t say it. “white ppl shouldn’t say the n word” is SUCH a clear and simple stance to take. nobody has to cancel him but it is a huge step to just acknowledge that someone you like accidentally or no said something racist and inappropriate. if you refuse to acknowledge that he said the n word and that was wrong with him will you actually be willing to call out racism when it appears in more complex and insidious forms? 

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I’m saying this as a minority and not some ignorant white person, why is everyone obsessed with cancelling Vince Dunn?Saying the n word to someone’s face is inexcusable but in the context of singing a rap song and accidentally letting it slip out is a genuine mistake. It’s a lyric, it’s easy to just have it embedded in your mind and be too drunk to remember not to say it out loud (which he was drunk). 1/2

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[nathan-mackinnon]

genuinely i can’t believe that vince dunn said the n word, got called out for it, let and even encouraged his chat to call the girl calling him out a crazy bitch, repeatedly claimed he didn’t say it, and then told his chat to spam her chat where they proceeded to tell her to kill herself,,,,,,,,and you’re still gonna simp for this man bc you think his curly hair is cute

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Watching hockey tumblr bend over backwards to pretend anti-black racism doesn’t exist to the point of refusing to believe video evidence I- ... just say you don’t care about black people and go lmao

LICHERALLY lmao "he makes a weird two syllable noise that starts with n and ends in a at the exact point in the song where the n word is said but he doesn't say the n word" ????????

like if you can't accept that your fave said the n word and that was wrong of him then you definitely would never speak out against any racism you see and you're part of the problem :)

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truly idk why i try,,,,,,,white ppl will always make exuses for their fave like the fact that ppl are telling me he made "a weird noise that sounds similar to the n word but isn't the n word" like listen i could not care less if you continue to be horny for vince despite all of this it's really none of my business but it just goes to show how ppl are physically incapable of acknowledging that a stranger they've never met could've possibly done a no-no