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Why are there minors following me. MDNI motherfuckers. Fuck off. Also stop interacting with the posts that are SPECIFICALLY about necro. I thought that'd be common sense. I guess not.
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questioning aspd culture is wondering if you have aspd but literally all of the criteria is just "commits crimes" "commits crimes" "commits crimes" "is a super huge dick also" "commits crimes" "commits cri
ASPD Culture is
#Y EAH#you really gotta like. read between the lines with each criterion#like the one about past arrests is really asking if you don't respect authority and don't respect rules and such#so like being arrested for committing crime = committing crime = impulsivity + disrespect for rules and authority + putting your morals and-#-self benefit over other people's#idk the dsm likes to look at shit from an external perspective instead of what it's really teying to get at#a lot of it relies on vibes. and so since those vibes are hard to put into words they try to simplify it with actions and experiences#except not everybody has those so it becomes unhelpful and too specific#idk. you kinda have to do enough research to write a dissertation on whatever disorder you're questioning to be able to really make an-#-informed guess regarding if you think you have it or not#plus you need a lot of self-awareness#and idk. it just gets insane#i wish it was all more straightforward and explained the criteria more and wasn't just steeped in abelism#ANYWAY#tag rambles#aspd#cluster b safe#questioning aspd
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Welcome to my Ted Talk about AsPD, or Antisocial Personality Disorder, which the internet likes to coin as sociopath 👌🏻 if you don’t like long infodumps about stigmatized mental disorders from someone who is diagnosed, move on.
Quick toxic rundown: People with AsPD are generally characterized as emotionless, violent, manipulative abusers who kill animals and like to make other people their bitches. The biggest pet peeve we have is the emotionless, sadistic and abusive generalization.
Personally, we are highly neurotic, with highs and lows of: depression, frantic drive, self abuse tactics, chronic fear, lapses of rejection, overwhelming over-analyzation, grey area thinking, false goods and false bads, ultimatums, obsessive compulsive behavior, harsh self demands, and irritability.
AsPD is a disorder that is caused primarily (according to current research) by trauma and abuse in childhood; most notably being emotional neglect and absent caregivers that cause a child to have emotional shutdowns and repression episodes in an attempt to self soothe. Primary caregivers who do not bond with their children are also a factor. Children learn how to behave from those around them. If a primary caregiver is emotionally distant and unavailable, children will learn that is normal behavior and that’s how people are. If a primary caregiver does not provide empathy and sympathy during moments of distress and fear, children will learn that aloofness and disregard of others feelings is normal behavior. If a primary caregiver does not keep a child safe, children will learn that they should not prioritize their own safety or the safety of others. You can find my follow up post regarding this here.
Neglected and abused children often act out trying to get attention and help, often acting out in bad ways because they lack the ability to articulate what they’re feeling and what is happening to them. The pipeline for AsPD typically is: Oppositional Defiance Disorder as a child, Conduct Disorder as a teen, AsPD as an adult. There are a lot of warning signs cueing that AsPD is becoming a risk for development, but often kids do not have a support system to help negate it as it’s their support system that is usually a factor in its creation.
Being AsPD is like being an emotional La Croix 70% of the time. If you’re depressed, then it’s like someone in the other room has depression and is telling you about it. The other 30% of the time, if you’re depressed, your brain doesn’t understand how to handle it so it’s an ultimatum between doing something drastic to remove the Trigger or ignoring and dissociating for days on end.
People with AsPD are very good at ignoring things. Honestly it’s problematic as fuck but it’s not hard to ignore major issues when you just, don’t care. It’s not in the terms of being cruel or making ourselves not care, but the fact that finding the emotional willpower is so far out of our feasible reach we don’t do it. This causes us to piss people off because we don’t have the capacity to care as much as they want us to, even if we can and do to an extent.
Think of it this way: empathy/sympathy is a deep tub of water that everyone has. They can easily fill their measuring cup for the needed amount of empathy without any issues and it’s easy for them. People with AsPD don’t have a tub of water. We have shallow skillet. When we try to dip our cup to fill it, we can’t, it always comes up short and it is difficult to get any water in it as there is no room for the cup to dive. Our ability to care is limited because we do not have the same emotional resources everyone else does.
❌ False Positives & False Negatives ❌
I operate on what I’ve learned are called false positives and false negatives. These are things that are trained into the brain from an early age based off of childhood trauma and other factors. False positives are a distorted version of why we do something to help ourself and for our own good, meanwhile a false negative is something we do because it’s a threat, or based out of fear.
❌ Some of my false positives:
- It is good to be afraid of nothing
- It is good to adapt to someone’s personality if they are stronger than you
- It is good to isolate yourself
- It is good to be a silver tongue because you can get into any place you want
- It is good to become a social chameleon and shape yourself to whatever those around you need/want most, because then you have no chance of being abandoned
❌ Some of my false negatives, which can explain the false positives as well as core beliefs:
- it is bad to be afraid, if I am afraid then I am vulnerable and it can be used against me
- It is bad to be emotional or show concern for others emotions because they do not care for mine
- It is bad to be able to be exploited, because I believe it is everywhere
- It is bad to allow myself to be bored, because boredom begets bad thoughts and no one can or wants to help me when I spiral
- It is bad to not shape yourself to the social circle, because people quickly grow tired of those who do not match them perfectly and being discarded means I failed
My core beliefs can be viewed as the root for the false positives and negatives, because they are based on the core of trauma, abuse and neglect. They come from patterns and instances that make someone with AsPD become the opposite of what they experienced:
- eat or be eaten
- If I don’t show that my bite is worse than my bark, I will be taken advantage of and I must remain on top because the ones on top are safe
- I must look out for myself because nobody will do it for me
- It doesn’t matter what happens to me, therefore it doesn’t matter what people think of me
- If I cannot do something well, then I should not do it at all
- If you are dependent on others for emotional and mental well being, you are weak, therefore I must isolate myself to avoid becoming codependent and a burden and useless
- If I can handle the stress of a situation better than everyone else, therefore I will keep the problem (financial, emotional, mental, etc) to myself to reduce chances of being abandoned due to failure of perfection
People with AsPD are hard to get along with. We often:
- are always anticipating a fight
- lack respect for authority
- ignore social structures to an extent
- tendency to lie if it’ll lessen punishment or if we feel the lie is more acceptable than our actions
- limit social support because it’s wrong to be dependent on others
- have an inflated view of our own importance — which turns into a self ridicule for believing someome like me could be found important to others —
- can be rude and inconsiderate of others feelings somewhat unintentionally
- are unable to read the correct social cues in relation to empathy towards people and animals
- am constantly confused by others dependence upon empathy and inability to make desicions from logic based standpoints
We can’t speak for everyone who has AsPD, nor are we saying that no one with AsPD is capable of being a murderer/abuser etc. but we are saying that y’all need to stop automatically classifying someone as a certain “type” as soon as you know about their disorder.
One last thing I do want to point out is that it is not uncommon for people with AsPD to derive some sort of enjoyment in causing harm, doing something illegal, hurting someone or animals, etc. This entirely stems from lack of environmental control as a child. Being able to control what happens to others or being able to control the things you say or do that hurts someone else is a hefty high to get addicted to; it soothes the underlying itch of not being able to control your own trauma and abuse, so in turn you push these behaviors onto others and enjoy it because it gives you a sense of power and control. Some people with AsPD do genuinely love hurting others, and some enjoy hurting others when they believe it’s deserved or their ire has been stoked. Some enjoy causing pain to those they think deserve it, and others don’t care who they hurt as long as they feel like they’re in control of the situation.
Hope this have some insight into AsPD 🤙🏻 if y’all have any questions, shoot.
#saving for later#this all fits me to a T#and is also a somewhat unique description of aspd that i haven't seen elsewhere#/pos because usually people focus on how aspd looks to an outsider#this is very insightful#aspd
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FUCK WAIT MY FUCKING SPONGEBOB HOODIE ISN'T CLEAN. I HAVE TO WALK INTO THIS GODDAMN APPOINTMENT WEARING MY RED TPOF HOODIE.
Y'KNOW. THE HOODIE COVERED IN ART OF VARIOUS SKULLS AND WEAPONS. I'M GOING TO FUCKING KILL MYSELF.
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I actually don't want to go to class today. My professor CLEARLY sees me different. I don't want to see the way she looks at me now.
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MY PROFESSOR TOLD THE SCHOOL I EXPERIENCE HI AND THEY FUCKING. CALLED ME BECAUSE THEY GOT A REPORT. FUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
#they're making me meet today for a fucking. counseling appointment.#fuck dude#i thought she was safe i thought this was a normal chill conversation#but NO. I GUESS NOT#FUCK#homicidal ideation#actually homicidal#homicidal thoughts
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I forgot I told my drawing professor that I experience HI the other day. Earlier in the class period she asked everyone to share on a 1 to 10 scale how we were feeling, and I marked myself as a 3, because my HI's been really bad lately.
I stayed after class to help clean up some stuff, and she asked about why I was at a 3. I was like "oh, y'know, just been dealing with some mental health stuff." And she like kinda pushed, so I ended up talking about my HI. She was very understanding, and said if I ever started experiencing an episode in class that I could just leave and email her later. Which is like. A huge win. I've already had one episode while in that class, and I'm sure I'll have more, so having this arrangement is really really helpful.
And I was just pleasantly surprised that she wasn't weird or rude about it. I'm still kinda like. Stressing the fuck out, because I hate people perceiving me as bad, and talking about HI is not something you can go back from. But ??? She seems cool??? Idk we'll have to see.
Counting this as a win though.
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Forewarning, this'll be a long post.
You might block me too (understandable), but I wanted to talk about what those tags and such mean, and try to share some perspective into why paraphiles tag like that and what their thought process is, as someone who's an anti-contact necrophile who's been in some paraphile spaces for a couple years now.
I will start by saying it is not a common thing to see, and not an easy thing to find. You generally have to work your way into para spaces through certain fandoms or people, if you don't already know the tags (I myself found the gore/necro corner through murder VNs). Involvement in proship/antiship discourse may get you there too, which is likely how you're seeing those tags. It is also why you're not getting the full picture though, as I assume you don't spend any real amount of time in said spaces, and it's more posts that have 'broken containment'. 'Parablr' is generally a very small, close-knit corner of the site. The general public is not who's reacting positively to those kinds of posts/tags (and, truly, the vast majority of people would find them as repulsive as you do). So you can feel some comfort in that.
Now, going into the specific tags you listed. Paraphiles wanna connect. I know I usually appreciate seeing other necros. Makes you feel not alone in what can be a very hard thing to go through. So that's why you'll see "paraphiles please interact", "maps please interact", etc etc. There's a really interesting dynamic with these tags too, because paraphiles will use them to find their old mutuals after their accounts have been shadowbanned or terminated. It creates a very strong sense of community, and when you're solidly in those spaces and using those tags, it makes it very likely for your friends' 'looking for old moots' posts from new accounts to show up in your feed. Because yeah depending on what you post, even if it's only reblogs (or, hell, I've seen people get nuked for having only text posts), you're going to be nuked a LOT. You'll have friends show up on new accounts every week, using those tags to find their folks.
Anyway, not all of these types are pro-contact. I'm not, and my friends aren't. There are certainly paraphiles who are, but I'd definitely say they're the minority, and they have an even smaller corner of Tumblr they reside on, that's generally much harder to find than the anti-contact para spaces.
Anti-contact paraphiles range from those who don't 'indulge' in their paraphilia at all, who just want to interact with people who understand, to those who may consume fictional or non-harmful content. Necro/gore is a bit more nuanced than pedo/zoo, since you can find plenty of medical and autopsy photos that aren't nearly as fundamentally harmful as like CSAM. So gore blogs are fairly common in para spaces. The morality of them could be debated, but y'know, surgery photos didn't come from exploitation or intent to harm for sexual purposes, so 🤷♂️. Lots of anti-contact necros don't consider that to be problematic, while the equivalent for maps and zoos would be either all fictional or much more harmful, and would likely mainly be consumed by pro/neutral contacts.
Now, "irl loli/shota" from the very little bit that I've seen (since I try my damndest to avoid map and zoo Tumblr) is used by minors who want to date adults, and some adults who do sexual agere. There are several other tags that go into each variant, which I will not be listing because it's truly a horrific experience to scroll through (especially the minors looking to be groomed).
"Xenosatanist" I've not heard of before. Seems to be a VERY radical perspective taken up by some pro-contacts. I don't interact with maps of any flavor, much less any pro-c, so I can't tell you much about it.
People saying like "adults and minors should kiss" can be one of many things, and some of it ties into proship ideas. Proshipping is a VERY complex topic, that I see given different definitions by every person I meet (pro or anti). The general consensus of what I've seen from pros is that proshipping is the belief that fictional content is not harmful to actual people, and therefore stuff like art, writing, and sexual RP carried out between consenting adult people is a non-issue and shouldn't be censored or criminalized. Many proshippers are strong defenders of children and animals, and it tends to be a minority that latch onto the label because they're pro-contact paraphiles.
Anyway, proshippers will make jokes about consuming and enjoying fictional content depicting 'problematic' dynamics, as part of that belief that it truly does not actually harm anybody, as well as the desire to deconstruct puritan ideas of what's really harmful and what's not, and sometimes straight up to poke fun at antis via sarcasm and rage-bait. There is a running 'joke' among proshippers that regularly consuming 'problematic' content keeps you from puritan ideals, and many do make jokes about antis' prevailing belief that proshippers all advocate for child abuse.
I'm sure there are pro-contact maps who say that kinda stuff as a /hj kinda joke, to poke fun at their paraphilia, or even those who say it seriously. But the context I've seen that style of joke in is not typically that.
I have a complicated perspective on all of it. Obviously, CSA and CSAM and grooming and child abuse is bad. I'm a victim of it myself. I can't stand seeing maps online, and pro-contact ones send me into rages. I'm a fierce protector of kids, and I bend over backwards to help kids I see in dangerous situations. It distresses me a lot that there not only are communities of pro-contact pedophiles, but that there are also communities of children who actively want to be groomed, because I can't fix the problem. I've put quite a bit of research into the subject, and the unfortunate truth is that the problem is entirely unsolvable. There are too many pedophiles out there, that hide too well. Nobody will find them all, and even just trying would require a level of internet surveillance on the same scale as foreign espionage. All you can do is try to help the children you see in danger, and educate people (children and their guardians) on how grooming works, how to spot it, and how devastating it is, in hopes that people will slowly become more aware of it, and learn how to address it properly.
I dislike seeing fictional content that sexualizes children and animals, and there is plenty to say about how fiction can affect reality. But to be completely real with you, an adult drawing a picture on their own, or an anti-contact map talking about their experience with other anti-contact maps, is so, so low on my list of priorities, when I deal with trying to get real children out of grooming situations, and reporting actual CSAM photographs I stumble on to the FBI. I could care less about fiction and talk.
Saying all this because I see folks in the tags talking about brigading the para tags. It will not do a thing, I assure you. Paraphiles are resilient. I mentioned earlier how the tags are used to find eachother after getting nuked. Harassment won't do a damn thing.
And, /lh, I want you and the other people on this post to think about the topic and decide if you want to hurt paraphiles more than you want to protect children. It is a common complaint I see from proshippers actually. When they get into serious discussions of why they dislike antis, they will bring up people they've seen who will show explicit content/share usernames of NSFW accounts to minors under the guise of "Look how awful this person is, let's go harass them". Do not be that anti. I don't care where your 'politics' on that lie. Protect children more than you shit on proshippers and paraphiles.
Anyway, this was a bit of a long post, and I apologize for the length, and probably for the interaction too. I'm not a map or zoo, and I don't identify with the proshipper term, but I doubt you're too fond of necros either. I did want to share some perspective though. I think it's an interesting subject, and I like having open discussions on it. Hopefully at the very least you learned a bit.
I know I already made a post about this, but why is pedophilia so normalized?? I keep seeing posts with the tags “m@ps please interact”, “irl shota”, “irl loli”, “xenosatanist” and more. how did we get to the point where you can say that you’re a pedophile on social media and all you’ll get is praise and attention?
people making posts like “minors can consent”/“adults and minors should kiss” is NOT something that should be excused. even if you’re just joking, that’s not something you should joke about.
#i will answer any questions you have if you want to ask them#and i have plenty of studies i can share on how grooming and online pedo rings work if you want to read up on that#since i talked about that some#wishing you well#long post#discourse
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npd culture is deciding you no longer want to deal with someone because they're a fucking idiot and cringe but ending a friendship for that reason isn't socially acceptable so now you have to find a different reason entirely to cut them off
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#REAL#i usually just start ghosting them and stopping talking to them as much or as intensely and slowly let the friendship fizzle out#i can't be assed to fully end it myself (and also yeah i would be very disliked for that)#questioning npd
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#i think about this sometimes#like a lot of disorders seem to just have Vibes associated with them#and like you can get a feel of someone and often kinda know what flavor of mental illness they have#but pinpointing specific symptoms to fit diagnostics and criteria and such is a lot trickier#obviously the diagnostics are important#but the vibes interest me#(me. who's been told by several people i give off cluster b vibes. but whose therapists' analyses have been inconclusive)#anywayy
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NPD culture is I’m fatally allergic to embarrassment
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My favorite person unfollowed me I am KILLING myself (/j)
#(..../hj)#/j!!!!!!!!!#but fr auuuuuuuugh#i thought it was just on tumblr but they unfollowed me on insta too#at least we're still discord friends... but we don't talk on there so i don't think he's really noticed#i am going to make this work out in my favor#i am going to make him like me again by showering him with gifts and obsession#just how i got him to like me in the first place#i fucked up by saying something insensitive i think#and those times he was vaguing about disliking seeing certain mutuals' posts may have been about me#BUT. i don't care i am going to win and he is going to like me again if it fucking kills me#questioning cluster b#cluster b traits#cluster b safe
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Please make everything about me. Adore me, praise me, kiss the ground I walk over.
Please don't look at me. Don't perceive me, forget about my existence, let me bury myself with no consequences.
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Thank you for answering !!
Yeah. I usually go for distractions myself when I'm feeling homicidal. I had a really bad episode recently where that wasn't working though. I ended up having to stab boxes and such to get it out of my system. I've been just asking people who experience homicidal ideation what their coping mechanisms are to see if there's any that could help me when it gets bad again. I wish you luck with your own ideation as well ^^
I do have a plan in place for in-patient hospitalization just in case, though I do worry about how I'd be treated. I know you talked about being met with a lot of hostility in response to both your ASPD traits and your homicidal ideation.
As for your diagnoses, I see! So it was fairly gradual, and you got diagnosed kinda one at a time, beginning with self-DX and concluding with medical recognition. Definitely sounds like you had a rough go at it though, with all the long questioning and then the abelism. I'm sorry you dealt with that.
But icic. So PDNOS is specifically for an unclear or generalized mix of symptoms, whereas if someone does clearly fit the criteria for multiple PDs, they would just have those multiple PDs. I was unsure on if that was used for broad unclear mixes of PDs, ans/or as like occasional shorthand for 'a big huge mix of PDs'. The idea of a diagram demonstrating which symptoms belong clearly to each disorder is a good idea. I may do that myself to make sense of what I deal with, though that may be a project for the future haha.
And yeah I definitely don't think I'll meet a professional who'd want to diagnose me with all four. As it is, past therapists/counselors I've seen labeled me as potentially having traits of cluster Bs, but were hesitant to definitively say I had any of them. My current main therapist suspects many of the symptoms I think may indicate a cluster B may actually just be generalized trauma responses/C-PTSD type stuff as it interacts with autism, and she said it can be hard to distinguish symptoms like that when there's so many elements in play. Which I think is fair. Though I also don't think it's insignificant that I fit all the criteria for cluster Bs so closely. So idk.
I had someone tell me a while back that in cases like this, it's probably best for me to focus on identifying specific symptoms, and then work on dealing with those, instead of putting all my energy into trying to wrap them all into nice little disorder labels. Which is probably the path I should take. It's tricky because like being diagnosed/medically recognized would validate the shit I deal with, but with my symptoms fitting so many disorders, diagnosis would be hard to get, and it's just not worth my time to worry about that, especially when like my homicidal ideation is flaring up so severely rn. Like I should spend my time learning effective coping strategies for that instead of trying to analyze the symptoms that really don't bother me that much/aren't as big a problem in my life.
But. Yeah. Overall, I may never get what feels like a neat, satisfying answer to why I am the way I am. But I can do my best to roll with the punches and focus on what's necessary.
Thank you again for answering my ask! And don't feel bad at all for the long reply lmao. I'm guilty of that myself. I appreciate your advice and experiences! It was helpful to read ^^ I hope life treats you alright!
Hiii, I saw your message about asks, and I wanted to ask if you had any specific coping mechanisms for homicidal ideation. Mine has been awful lately, and my usual coping mechanisms aren't working as well anymore.
Also, you noted that you have NPD, BPD, and ASPD traits. How'd you figure out you had all of them, and not just a 'PD NOS' type situation? /gen I myself fit traits of all four cluster Bs (going through all the official diagnostics, I fit the criteria for all four), and I'm struggling to figure out if like. I might have traits of each (like described it'd be ASPD traits, BPD traits, HPD traits, and NPD traits), or if I'd be considered to just have general cluster B traits, or if I'd have 'PD NOS', or if I would straight up just have all four PDs, etc.
REMINDER/TW
Some of this is personal experience, it won't be the same for everyone. I will mention a mental hospital I went to. I am not a professional.
About the coping mechanism for homicidal ideation
First of, thank you so much for the ask! To answer your first question. I sadly don't have any healthy ones. But I have one that doesn't harm others. Usually when I have homicidal ideation and I'm at home I go to my room and try to distract myself by reading and watching a video. That on it's own is good I just tend to isolate myself for a few hours until the feeling has completely passed. What's unhealthy about this is not only the isolating but also repressing of the emotion (anger/rage wtvr.) Because it will come back eventually and then it's over 😭 I do plan on working on better coping mechanisms in therapy but the last time I talked about it with a therapist I was not met with a friendly reaction at all.
So my Tipp is to take time for yourself when you can and try to distract yourself. Just try not to make the same mistakes I do and don't isolate yourself and try to let the emotion out in another way (like writing, drawing, sport) at a later point in time.
How did I figure out I have NPD, BPD and ASPD traits?
I knew I have BPD since 13. I did the test for personality disorders where you fill out a sheets of paper with over 100 questions. The results showed that I had a high score for BPD. But since I was 13 I didn't get it diagnosed. NPD is more recent. At the start of 2024 I found myself looking at the diagnostic criteria and symptoms for npd for reasons I can't remember. I went over them and compared it to my expirence only to realize that I fit every but one diagnostic criteria that is "arrogance, haughty behaviors, and attitudes." (I do experience it to some degree I just often don't tell people what I'm actually feeling/thinking for personal gains). After a lot of research I decided to self diagnose with npd but even then I was still in denial. Towards the end of last year I was in a mental hospital to work on my "bpd like symptoms" among other things. There I finally did the personality disorders test. At first I did the test I'd already done when I was 13. Then I sat down with a psychiatrist for 6 and a half hours. We went thru all clusters and all personality disorders. She asked me questions and I had to answer and give examples. Once the results came back it was clear, I have NPD and BPD. I got diagnosed with both as the score for both, especially NPD, was high. So that explains how I figured out I have NPD and BPD. But what about my ASPD traits?
Aspd is more complicated and way more recent. While I was suspecting NPD since may last year and BPD for years I only realized my ASPD traits about 2 months ago. During the whole testing I was very focused on my BPD and NPD symptoms. Especially after I got done with the section of npd and bpd, all I could think about was thoes two disorders and my symptoms tied to them. I unintentionally ignored all other symptoms I was showing and that paired with the psychiatrist who basically skipped over aspd during the testing process for whatever reason resulted in me not really being able to talk about anything relating to it. The next few weeks after I got the diagnosis all that was in my mind was NPD. I was struggling with the diagnosis and what it means for me. Due to the diagnosis I was paying more attention to my behavior, thoughts, feelings and urges. After some time I was able to think about other things than NPD but I still payed attention to my behavior and such. Over time I saw things in myself I had not seen before as I just considered them a part of me, and/or something that's completely normal. They weren't and while some of it fit NPD or BPD other things didn't. I was confused. One night I was thinking a lot so I went to the person watching over us that night (reminder, I'm still at the mental hospital at this point). We sat there and talked for 2 hours until it was 12am. I talked about my symptoms, my need to control others and the situation generally, my homicidal ideation, not being able to understand what is right or wrong and generally not understanding social norms, my non existent remorse and regret and so on. The person I was talking to listened to me and at the end asked me a question "Do you feel emotions?" This question absolutely destroyed me. Because while I felt the urge to say yes, it didn't feel right. My next few days were spent thinking about that question, I asked people with ASPD how they expirence emotions. It took time until I found a answer to the question but either way, the symptoms where still there. I wasn't sure what to do with all of this new information that hit me all at once. I decided to talk to my therapist there. And while she did recognize the ASPD traits her reaction was far from nice. To put it simply, I was almost thrown out the clinic and in the next therapy session she told me I'd be released way earlier than expected and planned. Her reasoning was that I have too many problems. She said until I get released we'd just work on making sure I don't relapse into dysfunctional behaviors at home. So I didn't have a opportunity to talk about it again with her.
I am still kind of in denial about my aspd traits even tho I know I fit a lot of the criteria and I'm not talking about thoes that overlap with bpd and npd.
How do I know it's not PD NOS?
First of, the official diagnosis. But outside of that it isn't a mix of different traits without filling enough diagnostic criteria for a personality disorder, I fit all the criteria for BPD and NPD separate from each other. Yes my BPD is influenced by my NPD and the other way around but even so, I still fit the diagnostic criteria enough to get a diagnosis. If I did a testing for BPD and ignored the ways NPD influences it, I'd still fit the criteria. When I have time I'll draw what I mean to visualize it and explain it better.
General cluster B traits, PD NOS, or all four?
If you fit all diagnostic criteria for all personality disorders you probably have all four personality disorders. But it depends. As an example on how strong the symptoms are, you might experience all symptoms of a pd but a professional will call it traits as some of the symptoms aren't strong enough to be considered a pd on it's own. Everyone goes in the direction of specific personality disorders but it is considered a personality disorder or symptoms when it's exstreme. (Not saying you don't show all cluster B traits!)
A professional will probably be very hesitant to diagnose you with all 4 PDs. They might look for other similar disorders first that overlap. In the end it's in the hand of the professional what they diagnose you with. But my original point stands, if you fit all diagnostic criteria for aspd, bpd, hpd and npd, then you probably have all 4. Tho please note that I'm not a professional!!!
This got really long I hope I could help you somehow anon! If you or anyone has any follow up questions feel free to send a ask! Have a great day ahead and thank you for the ask!
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How do you cope with homicidal ideation? Mine's been really bad lately and my usual coping mechanisms aren't working :/
Tape a picture of someone you hate to a pillow and stab it with a knife . Draw violent scribbles, exercise , take a cold shower , listen to music , write in detail your homicidal thought processes , cut meat, stab a cutting board, drink alcohol, do drugs, remind yourself that your bodily autonomy is first and foremost more important than acting on a violent impulse .
#oogh these are all good options#i usually listen to music and let myself internally fantasize about homicide when I'm struggling#but yeah that hasn't been working as well#ended up stabbing some boxes a couple nights ago when i was like. worried to be around people because i was so homicidal#i've been thinking about getting a few cheap pillows to stab as well though#lots of stabbing options though! i'll have to experiment more with that#and i will keep cold showers in mind for if i ever need to go out in public somewhere#and i will keep cold showers in mind as well#i worry about drugs/alcohol because i've found i tend to be even more impulsive when my brain's addled by substances#but everything else is 10/10#thanks for responding#tag rambles#homicidal ideation#actually homicidal
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Aspd traits/homicidal ideation are SO FUCKING annoying.
Tw for homicidal thoughts/urges
People who demonize people with homicidal ideation DNI. I don't support my homicidal ideation. This is a rant.
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A minor inconvenience happened and now I just have the intense urge to kill someone or at least beat someone up. Not even any person specific just a person. And this happens EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. multiple times 😭😭😭
#goddddd yeah I hate having homicidal ideation. someone/something pisses me off or i get a fucking intrusive thought or flashback and-#-then whoops i don't feel completely safe around people anymore#i hate feeling like i'm not in control of my emotions/urges#i do everything so carefully and have so many systems in place and am so aware of myself and everyone else... and then it all goes out the-#-window when i'm homicidal. just. auuuuugh#i'm sorry you're dealing with that shit too. it's hard. and it sucks that you can't even like. talk to people about it#everyone's sooo willing to help with suicidal ideation. but you mention homicidal and they start treating you like a monster#(obligatory i'm glad suicidal ideation gets attention and support. it needs that. i just wish the same respect was extended to homicidal)#ANYWAY#homicidal ideation#actually homicidal
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NPD culture is that reaction was underwhelming. I did something nice for you why aren’t you singing my praises?? 🤨
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#realllll. like come on man i just gifted you the coolest fucking thing that was expensive/took a lot of time and you just??#don't take the time to properly thank me???#like what do i even do this for??#augh#questioning npd#questioning cluster b
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