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Socionics info coming soon but be sure to look at my pinned posts!

Easiest Way to Track Your OC’s Personality!

When developing our OCs, we often grapple with deep questions about their motivations, fears, and desires—essential for creating realistic and relatable characters. So, what's a simple and reliable method for ensuring our characters stay true to their personality? Personality types!

I’m not referring to MBTI, but rather the Enneagram.

Why the Enneagram? This personality system delves into core motivations, desires, life struggles, and fears. It helps writers create consistent, relatable, and engaging characters, without constantly worrying about aligning their actions and thoughts with their personality and story arc.

It also aids in maintaining consistency for shared NPCs by minimizing fluctuations in their behaviors, motivations, and patterns.

Here are some top resources on the Enneagram to explore:

Dr. Tom LaHue on YouTube

Enneagram Institute Type Descriptions

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The Counterphobic 6, my take.

I’m not here to say cp6′s get a bad wrap, or that we’re misunderstood. However, i do think there are some nuances that could be clarified. For example, as a counterphobic 6, I would not describe my inner dialogue as *INWARD SCREAMING* or *RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE* as every tumblr post seems too. Of course these posts are merely being humorous, and there is no harm in that. The real problem is that the enneagram 6 is a complex subject, especially the counterphobic side. Being as it is that most people get their info from the internet, we have to make sure there is ample resource for people to find out about each type. It was too the point that I insisted in my own mind that there was no way I was counterphobic, no way at all. I was a Phobic 6 for months, not relating with or wanting to associate with any description of a counterphobic 6. It wasn’t til I got into a skirmish with my INFJ over something that I realized the root of the problem was i was running AT the anxiety, and that was just a thing I did. (while she runs away) I took me observing the mechanics of the thing to relate with it because the descriptions are just so intensely unrelatable. They all seem to describe an 8-ish ESTP character that I don’t relate with at all. 

At the core of the thing, a counterphobic 6 is simply a 6, that runs at sources of anxiety rather than away. HOW they do it is not set in stone. For me it might look something like this: 

There is an elephant in the room, Stacy and Robert are sitting down talking in the corner. The last time I saw them a few weeks ago, they we’re angry at me. I know them to be reasonable people but I don’t know If they’ve forgiven me since I’ve apologized. A severe anxiety overtakes me. I cannot deal with being in the same room with them and not knowing how they’re thinking of me, what they might be saying about me, and if they’re still hurt. I HAVE to go sit with them an make the first strike. I sit by them and make a lighthearted joke to see if they smile.

Now let’s compare this to what a phobic 6 might do:

There is an elephant in the room, Stacy and Robert are sitting down talking in the corner. The last time I saw them a few weeks ago, they we’re angry at me. I know them to be reasonable people but I don’t know If they’ve forgiven me since I’ve apologized. A severe anxiety overtakes me. What if they still hate me? What if they’re talking about me right now? Maybe if they don’t see me it won’t remind them… What if they walk over here and attack me!? I think I should leave… I should just go outside and avoid this altogether.

Now, I’m not saying the phobic 6 approach is worse, Not at all, its much less annoying and obnoxious. However, I don’t think people understand the distress that cp6′s feel, not just in social situations, but in general. If a cp6 feels a punishment coming they just want to take it as soon as possible to avoid the agonizing wait. The counterphobic 6, above all else, wants to put an end to their anxiety as quickly as possible by whatever means necessary. They don’t want to wait for a situation to resolve, they want to resolve it. They don’t want to wait for trouble to come, they want to go to the trouble. They would rather meet danger with wide eyes and clinched fists than have it creep up on them and stab them while their backs are turned. Idle worrying is the enemy. Fear is the Dragon unslain. They connot stand loose ends or unresolved narratives. Looming trouble is a dark cloud constantly pouring rain and it is unbearable. I work at a Learning Center as a teachers assistant. I would like to tell you about the curious case of young Stephan. Stephan is a seemingly violent and aggressive child of about 7. I often remark to my INFJ girlfriend who works with me “Stephan is my spirit animal”. He is so aggressive towards teachers, and other children, even me. He says things, angrily like “Hey, who asked you!?” or “whatever, bub!” or “ggrrraaaaah, not (blank) again” and “*incomprehensible angry muttering to self*” He’ll attack me verbally, or threaten to beat me up and I’ll just smile and say “I’m more than twice your size, buddy” softly and nonthreatening. To which he then becomes very passive aggressive and dismissive as if he never said anything to begin with. What Stephan doesn’t want you to know is that he’s actually intensely anxious. You can tell that when he talks aggressively he is doing so feigning confidence he doesn’t have, he may stutter or trail off. There is no forcefulness in his energy, only an harsh defense disguised as an offense. He’s afraid nobody is protecting him. That we’re all here to judge him (it is a school after all) and that at the end of the day there is nothing he can really do to stop it. So he lashes out with anxious energy and feigned confidence. And I’ll tell you, as an adult of 23, of the hundreds of kids I’ve seen, I’ve never found a child I more strongly related to. 

We’re every bit of the nervous wreck of the phobic 6, but its almost as if they can “take it” better. I marvel at the phobic 6s ability to let the nervous energy stew and avoid the problem. Problems that seem a long way off can’t get here quick enough. At the end of the day, it’s not that I’m aggressive, It’s that I’m scared that I can’t know how things will play out (or if they’ll play out) unless I make them play out. I’m not trying to hurt or annoy anyone, I’m simply afraid and can’t stop myself. All I really need is to be reassured. That’s all I’ve ever wanted from anyone. Unless I get that I can’t relax, and all I want to do is relax! 

Unfortunately, most cp6′s aren’t aware they’re counterphobic, or even that they’re ruled by their anxiety. Many cp6s will not suffer the humiliation of admitting they’re anxious or uncertain. Many cp6′s are not even feelers or consciously focusing on how they feel. That’s your 8ish ESTP cp6 archetype. But for those of us who are aware and searching for answers and admitting our flaws… cut us a bit of slack. Not asking for an excuse, just reassurance that we can trust you and are well liked. A swift end to problems and anxieties is all we want and your assistance in the matter would be greatly appreciated!

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how finding your type can bring out your insecurities (& how this may actually be a misunderstanding)

I hadn’t put these on tumblr & it occurred to me that I probably should

1: 1s tend to be hard on themselves & constantly judge everything they or others do by criteria like factual correctness, appropriateness of morality. They can also have a fear of being bad or corrupt.

So when they read judgy hypocritical ppl who constantly give others the death glare they might freak out a bit – So they might end up being critical of themselves for… criticality, think they must be bad for having all these critical thoughts, constantly check themselves for the amount & appropriateness of criticism…

Some 1s beat themselves up for being critical without ever encountering typology, seeing as they are generally drawn to self-improvement, life advice & enlightenment etc & while some immature & unhealthy ones can be sanctimonious, average ppl with some shred of self-awareness are generally quite receptive to feedback, so often someone called them out for being critical & they tried to correct it or feel bad for it.

The counterpoint here is not even as simple as „its ok to make mistakes“ – the 1 attention pattern is to constantly evaluate everything, often in a ‚binaristic‘ fashion – Are the requirements met, yes or no? Is the room clean, yes or no? Have we correctly followed procedure, yes or no? Am I a good person, yes or no? - So a key insight here is that most people don’t immediately sort everything they see & might very much be willing to forgive 5% annoyingness on a 95% good person – especially if you’re willing to do the same.

2: 2s can often have the feeling that their needs are shameful & selfish, or nagging worries that no one really likes them & they just „tricked“ people into doing so.

When they read the descriptions, there mere suggestion that they may have any self-interest ever can feel like a confirmation of that: „Haha, you’re secretly needy just like you always wanted to avoid. Yes, you DID deliberately do things to make others like you. Some people might think you’re a pushy manipulator!“ - 2s can be particularly hard-hit by this cause they have a need to see themselves in a positive light, and may have had their more self-interested parts of their motivations (that ultimately, everyone has) repressed out of awareness.

Of course the real takeaway message is that wanting ppl’s love is a normal human trait & that ppl might be willing to give it – and that saying what you’d like might sometimes be more effective than trying to elicit it indirectly.

3: Some 3s can have this lowkey fear of having no real identity but what they deliberately present to the world, but even those who don’t might feel strong pressure to prove themselves as what their idea of being worthy/ valuable is (whether that is being the smartest, a badass leader, the most creative etc.)

So you see some individuals resist the typing with like real existential terror, „No, I’m real! I actually do have value! I’m not just pretending to be worth something. I’m real please believe me!“, sometimes decrying 3 as like being the „fake“ version of whatever type they think is the „real“ version of what they aim to be… which itself betrays an idea that your value as a person depends on fitting a certain prototype of value. Often their idea of the ‚target type‘ will have gotten a makeover that puts it nearer to Peak 3. (like appearing to picture it with a lot more social skills or motivation) Sometimes you get a person who’s studied the system for longer, has a correct idea of the other types, & hence puts themselves in the „none of them fit“ camp.

The real takeaway is of course that you actually have substance outside of ppl’s perceptions, even if those are what your attention often focusses on. You’re still there when no one’s looking – still real & still have value. Being a 3 doesnt mean you’re fake, it means that fear is an artifact of your perception algorithms. Though, if you see a way that you could realign your life to subjectively feel more in line with your feelings & preferences, that might help with that too. Eg, if something feels too much like an act or a stretch (as opposed to simply putting forward your actual good points so they aren’t missed), consider dropping it.

4: So, 4s fear being insignificant & replaceable, leaving meaningless lives, & build their sense of identity out of the differences they notice between themselves & others.

Even fitting into any sort of type at all kind of pokes at that – all this stuff you thought was unique to you & incomprehensible to others is actually a known quantity? There are thousands of ppl scattered somewhere out there who share it? If you are looking to define what’s uniquely you, that’s a huge „back to the drawing board“ moment. Was it all just illusion? Did all that suffering mean nothing? Was it just another instance of how you always ruin everything? Consider also that the 4 attention pattern involves reflecting upon your own feelings & responses, so for a while, you might be feeling a twinge of embarrassment everytime you see yourself Do A 4 Thing. Some also take it to mean that they are doomed to be unhappy & have dysfunctional relationships forever.

Some 4s throw themselves into self-develovement stuff to be rid of this „predictableness“,

& if this really does lead them to be freer & more enlightened and helping others do the same through taking a ‚shamanic‘ or ‚social critic‘ role, that’s great. The capacity for self-reflection that lets you a crisis of faith on your own is indeed one of strengths 4s can have.

Sometimes, however, it’s at least partially copium, an attempt at maintaining separation through being „more spiritual than thou“ & lambasting those who aren’t, but also pointing to their own messed-up-ness as an example for why people need to „repent“, in effect treating their typing as another reason why they’re irredeemably wretched.

Lambast away to your heart’s content, we have free speech here. However, what you might really question the basic premise that things that are shared or definable are always less meaningful. You’re never gonna be, like, a 6 or a 9 who’d take comfort in it if their suffering is shared, but if this particular shared or definable thing is important to you personally or just happens to be your personal truth, it may be more ‚authentic‘ to stand by it.

As for being doomed forever or irredeemable wretchedness…

Seeing as you’re wired to notice the negatives, you need not worry that you will ever „run out“ if you allow yourself to be happy 5 minutes. However, the fear that, if you allow yourself to rule something „good nuff“ it will be wrested away & you’ll be dissapointed again is harder to deal with cause that can never be 100% avoided. Disappointments can happen. But if you go looking for them preemptively before they hit you unexpectedly, you’re ensuring that they will happen. You might want to think about whether that is really what you want in each particular context.

5: 5s tend to have insecurities about being unable to satisfy others, of being inadequate, and of generally being empty and lacking.

So many among you probably devoured tons & tons of paragraphs & videos about how creepy, unfeeling, unlikeable and uncaring you are, and how frustrated, unsatisfied and neglected your spouse probably feels and how utterly Not Enough they probably find even the best of your efforts, precisely because of how it lowkey freaks you out.

You probably didn’t even get mad or indignant, you just resigned yourself to it – no use fighting against reality.

Many a guide to spotting the types in the wild goes into great detail about some hopelessly weird individual they met, detailing all the oddities of their speech and body language and how thoroughly impossible it was to connect with them in any meaningful way. Which is still alot less worse than the accounts that fall over themselves with pity for what an impoverished and diminished experience that person must be living, devoid of anything the presenter would consider meaningful or important. „Look at that weirdo! They’re so bad at existing! If only they let us save them, and by save them we mean throw out all their priorities and submit be meddled with according to ours!“ [funeral march starts playing]

Which is certainly not what anyone actually said nor how they meant it, but that’s how it can be heard.

Most 5s know better than to get indignant about something that’s plainly true but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t sting.

You have to realize that a lot of people aren’t even aware of the whole delayed reactions/ low level freeze thing & might be shocked to hear/notice it (& may have dismissed any such feedback as „they just don’t understand me“ or „its the others who are overdramatic or otherwise sus“) – and of course, your thinking immediately goes to how you’re inadequate.

I remember this mass freakout in the type subreddit where everyone was agonizing about whether their art might strike ppl as flat, lacking and feelingless.

And like, 80% had done some art and most of the rest „I wouldnt call myself an artist but I’ve dabbled“. That was a fairly creative bunch of ppl assembled there. Also, there’s plenty of famous musicians, poets and writers whom being a 5 plainly did not stop and whose works are not in the least considered flat lacking or feelingless. Some are renowned for quite the opposite.

So, if your art sucks its probably cause of you, not your type. And if it’s cause of you, actual practice probably helps, rather than just daydreaming about doing it… as would exposing what you’re working on to an actual test audience rather than tinkering with it indefinitely. (hence the high incidence of „works were published posthumously“) – what people think about your works, ideas or projects might surprise you, and leave you feeling a little less Inadequate™

As for satisfying others, it would probably help not to unilaterally pack up and run for the hills the moment you think you can’t do what they want. You might be mistaken about what they want & be able to reach some mutually satisfactory agreement if you talk this over.

You can’t underappreciate (and I’m emphasizing this because of how much I underappreciated it) that normal people really really like spending time around each other. Like they don’t just want it more cause conventions say so or cause they need it more, they actually get a lot out of it.

So you might not actually have to jump through that many hoops for them to be happy about it, and when they say that they „just having you around“ even if you’re not obviously doing something useful, some of them might actually mean it. It’s not, in fact, too much to ask that they appreciate your efforts.

It’s mindboggling how anyone can hear those descriptions & think they sound like anything remotely desireable or like it would make you popular. To me it seems that to like being a 5 you’d have to already be one and even among those that are, some „wouldnt wish it on their worst enemy“. But that’s probably proof that the ppl who thinks it sounds great somehow don’t share this particular set of complexes and insecurities, and that the complexes themselves aren’t entirely rational. Not sure if relieved because of that or unsettled because of the biased nature of perception. Both at once, probably.

6: 6s seek to see through bullshit, be well-prepared for adversity & have the courage to deal with whatever the world throws at them. They have a fear of fear itself – eg. That they won’t be strong/brave/prepared/perceptive enough, that they’ll panic or crack & fail to protect their loved ones.

So, when they read the descriptions, they’re gonna be sensitive to the parts that sound scared, weak, panicky, dupeable or lacking in independence, as that is usually the exact opposite of what they want to be.

It doesn’t help that many 6 descriptions out there genuinely & objectively leave a whole lot to be desired, but the 6s themselves also tend to focus on the negatives, & distrust the intention behind the good traits („Loyal probably just means exploitable“) or deny that they even have any such good traits because they dont want to be blamed if they cant live up to the expectations it creates.

So actually, you might want to consider if it’s not worth the risk of admitting that you have some good traits, like being logical, discerning, perceptive, realistic, outspoken, resillient, resourceful, likeable and having strong convictions, solidarity, and a sense of justice. If they don’t all apply, focus on the ones that do. Or poll some ppl who actually know you, specifically.

Which brings us to the next point which is category thinking. It’s important to state that this isn’t per se about conformism or „completely defining themselves by labels“, but simply about seeing things through a lens of systems & categories. An intellectual/thinking lens, basically.

A well-developed, discerning 6 will be the first person to tell you that categories aren’t absolute and often overlap in contradictory ways, because they have a sophisticated & discerning understanding that can’t be compared to the less developed systemic thinking of someone who doesn’t use it as the main means to understand the world & hence hones it every day.

Still, this can cause them to heavily weight category labels when it comes to their identity.

A good way to spot a mistyped 6 is if they’ve made their type their username, they’re looking to connect with others of the same to comiserate about how the world did them wrong, they’re writing opinionated thinkpieces defending said type from misinformation… That’s the 6 „algorithm“, a behavior seen in many other areas of life.

(Notably, you never see a correctly typed 6 making their type their username, because, like most correctly typed people, they have some embarassment of the weak points.)

The tedency to „band together with others of shared interests“ is a sound survival strategy.

But here it can cause someone to become quite entrenched in or attached to the label they first arrived on even if it was just due to a simple beginners mistake or a set of bad descriptions.

Or they may resist a label they associate negatively because it would mean something drastic about who they are. Like they loathe conformism and think being a 6 would mean they are one.

But you’re still the same person before & after pinning some label on you to describe you. If you’re a 6 you’re already one, and if you are not conformistic now, saying you’re a 6 won’t make you that way.

Besides its quite natural to be annoyed with immature members of your own type cause, sure seems convenient & easy to just follow your worst impulses and avoid anything that challenges you rather than making an effort to be reasonable and/or fair to others…

7: One underappreciated thing is that part of the reasons that 7s avoid difficult feelings is that they believe they can’t handle them or that „everything will be awful forever“

So being typed as the „cant handle tough shit“ type can feel like a confirmation thereof. You see ppl lamenting possibly being shallow or wishing they were what they perceive as ‚deep‘ types, probably reflecting an inner complex that they must be interesting/entertaining enouh for others to like them.

eg. What they’re really afraid of here is, on the one hand, being boring or limited (for some being typed at all seems like a limitation, as every type has weaknesses.) and, on the other, since 7s often feel they can’t really depend on others, that others might get tired of them if you burden them with stuff like flaws, insecurities, or even just, like, limited entertainment value.

Plus, 7s have a need to see themselves in a good light, so confronting how they may have been selfish, irresponsible, unreliable or flakey in the past can be painful - & at that point it seems tempting to just put a checkmark under that whole ‚enneagram‘ thing & move on to the next cool-sounding curiosity.

What you might want to note instead is your tendency to think you need to have everything figured out at once, & how that is not a reasonable expectation is some contexts. You’re studying a system that’s supposed to tell you what biases you have, so it’s normal that it will point you to some errors or shortcomings, some of which will take a while to overcome – if it didn’t, it would not be very useful. But, knowing about it is an opportunity to do better.

Realizing you might have some flaws might be painful, so you might want to avoid sitting down & letting it sink in, but the feeling won’t last forever.

Also, you don’t need to always be nothing but awesome & dazzling & entertaining for people to like & accept you.

8: Now many do not, but generally 8s are the most likely type to say that they like being their type, & no doubt that some of them are grounded, pragmatic ppl who accept themselves & reality, see no point in wasting time wishing for an alternate reality that will never happen.

However, for some of those ppl it may rather be due to how their defenses work – they can’t attack you by saying you’re a villain if you flat out admit it. „Insecurities what insecurities? What do you mean, river in egypt? Talking how I’m a villain doesn’t bother me at all what do I look like some kinda softie? Nothing self-hating at all in going on about what a proud arsehole I am…“

The truth is that, at least in quiet, non-action moments, many an 8 may have had worries of being „too much“ for ppl to handle, or have regets about situations that they screwed up with their impulsive actions.

And now they’re apparently the „intimidating“, „rageaholic“ type? Ouch. Doesn’t help the whole complex about being „bad“ at all.

Also, many 8s have painful memories of situations where they felt they had to keep it together & ‚tough it out‘ despite extreme adversity, because else they would be finished, or because others relied on them to be the Unshakeable One, & the typing can probably remind them of that – it doesn’t help how the type tends to be idealized. Oh great, more ppl expecting you to be tough, more apparent conformation that no one will care how you feel inside.

On some level 8s want respect & consideration, but „hey please be nice“ seems like an obvious invitation for someone to come & do the opposite, so, what you see are aggressive responses to disrespect & preemptive posturing so nobody will dare do the disrespect (or far worse).

But is it really true that no one will care & that you always have to tough it out? Now, ovsly that doesn’t mean that it’s safe to tell all your sensitive & compromising information to the nearest oily used car salesman. That’s bullshit, as you were no doubt thinking already. But maybe in some special situations with some special people, you might feel better if you let them know what’s going on with you. After all you’re as deserving of care & consideration as everyone else, despite what that subjective sense of „badness“ may be telling you - & you’re probably more likely to get it if you get better at seeing where you’re actually being opposed and where preemptive strikes may be less needed.

9: 9s can have insecurities about thinking they’re unremarkable, don’t really have special traits, & that their presence doesn’t matter.

So at lot of the more unflattering traits like being reluctant to make waves, having a diffuse sense of self etc. may at first feel like a confirmation of this. „Ah yes im a boring person, I even got the Boring Person Type….“

Actually what being typed as a 9 means is, your subjective sense of being ‚just little old me‘ might be an illusion (so rather the opposite of confirming it), & you might have plenty of special strong points rife for discovery… and also, further cultivation. Withdrawn types underestimate how they might change things & might feel that it’s hopeless or not worth it, but that may not in fact be the case. So even if you think that you are, in fact, a doormat, you can change it - not overnight maybe, but, you know, manageable baby steps. More people will notice & appreciate your interestingness if you don’t hide it as much.

Consider this also: The fact that 9s are common means that a lot of ppl liked 9s, screwed them, and produced tons of little baby 9s. It’s probably not cause people loooove boring mates.

It might be worth looking up a list of widely beloved or accomplished Type 9 celebrities to dissuade yourself of the notion that it is in any way the „boring person type“. Would you say Tolkien was boring? Theoretically, you could be both a 9 and boring but your boringness would not be due to your type.

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Of course, it is easy to list the conclusions like this. Even if you intellectually accept that it may be true it still won’t immediately feel true or sink in enough for you to act like it is. But being open to the theoretical possibility at least is a good start to allow the rest to happen and to „confirm itself“ through experience.

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questions about 6s

I've decided to start up a blog specifically about 6 -- my own experiences with it, what I've learned, how to spiritually mature, etc, going into the New Year.

What are some of the things you'd like to talk about on it? Do you have any particular questions you want answers to? (Want me to talk about lines, how 3/9 shows up for me, my experiences with projection or other 6 traits, how loyalty shows up for me, the super-ego and how it shows up, making decisions, ping-ponging, how I am in a relationship, over-thinking, etc?) I welcome questions from sixes and from those forced to live with sixes. ;)

Leave your questions/requests as a comment or send them to me.

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i find it so hard to figure it out if i'm an isfj or istj. am i a highly emotional istj that takes people's feelings in consideration to make decisions? or am i an isfj that processes feelings alone and can only verbalize deep emotions through text (only exception being my boyfriend but it's still tricky to share some feelings)? can you talk a little about these fe/ti te/fi dynamics? your blog is really helpful

Based on this, I would assume ISFJ. TJ types typically never consider themselves to be "highly emotional" and they realize other people have feelings, but they don't often know how to be careful of them, when the most factual, straightforward approach is obvious. TJ / Te types tend to call it like they see it, and then may get frustrated when their innocent or facts-based remarks solicit emotional reactions they did not intend. In my experience, ISFJs -- especially if they are withdrawn types like 9w1s -- retreat from others to process their feelings and think about them in a Ti way (understanding what it means and says about me and if this is valid or if I am over-reacting). They are less straightforward with their emotions than EFJ types, but a lot more sensitive, emotional, and considerate of others than ITJs.

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I know reminiscing is probably connected to Si but is it more common with SJ’s ? I notice some people do it much easier and often. Is it connected more with Fe or extroversion. Maybe Enneagram type? Can Si remember but not verbalize it as much?

It seems to be the most common with SFJs > STJs, but can also happen with NPs from time to time. The reason why is that Si is heavily invested in its own sensory narrative and for strong Si users, nothing exists other than their own lived experience -- so naturally, the memories, trips, experiences, etc, that are meaningful to them are something to relive, discuss, and share, because bringing them to mind is a pleasurable way to relive them.

It's also more common with withdrawn Enneagram types (usually 9s) than any other type, due to their focus on the past increasing the tendency of high Si to reminisce.

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This resource I found breaks down how types behave and develop as they age:

https://sakinorva.net/interpret

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Super in depth resource for mbti functions:

https://ebrary.net/172278/management/origins_function_archetype_decoder

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J.K. Rowling typing

Just something I wrote up in discord while arguing about J.K. Rowling’s type so bear with the horrible type job and shorthand.

Bc INFJs don't refer to the past Which she does CONSTANTLY in interviews and when writing All of her ideas for her book came from a memory or experience For example the train station And the under the stairs thing The meaning that she is pulling up is definitely there, however how much of it is projection of the interviewers and other people She also makes stuff up as she goes along while writing She didn't have a good overall plot set up for Harry Potter she just kinda went with whatever came to her This shows a strong si/ne axis I personally have a slightly harder time with her judging functions so I would guess that since everyone thinks Fe for her, even after her little spat with the whole Twitter comment, that it fits well enough though fi is an option too She doesn't show strong logic or care for why stuff happens or show a strong need to get stuff done We also know she is fairly introverted and doesn't show strong initiating tendencies This IMHO narrows her type down to either ISFJ or INFP This also again lines up to the strength in her Twitter comment, either a crusader or fi Dom would be the kind of person most likely to do such a thing

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Hi! What enneagram or mbti types do you most associate with the enemies to lovers tropes?

Also curious about the power struggle alpha male/alpha female who eventually and only submits to the alpha male.

I’m an author and I’m wanting to use the enneagram to further explore this.

Enemies to lovers isn't necessarily a type based dynamic. I would assume it would be stronger and more intense types that tend to get into that as softer types such as say E9 would avoid having enemies in the first place. I do think that sexual instinct dominant characters would be the most likely for enemies to lovers tropes, regardless of enneagram core, due to it being all about intensity. After all enemies to lovers is a transition from hate to, possibly, love both of which are incredibly strong emotions.

Alpha male concept tends to make me think of 8s, though cp6 and sp3 do come to mind also in their own ways. Alpha female concept I find to be very so3, so2, or even cp6 for the more aggressive and intellectually based ones.

Looking at the dynamic you are looking for any of the alpha male or female options I proposed would work well. Enneagram 2s for example are much more strong than I feel they get credit for, especially the 2s with 3 wings and 3s with 2 wings are just social dominance queens. If you are thinking more of an intellectual or aggression based struggle than I would pair up a E8 male with a cp6 female.

I wish you luck with your writing and hope this helps!!

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Enneagram by countries pt 2

Mexico: lots of 7s though a fair amount of 4s and 2s too

New Zealand: 7s and 9s mostly

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Countries as enneagrams! Pt. 1

Russia: Men seem very 8 or cp6 while the women are very p6. Men having a very strong outward appearance, the women being more traditional, and both genders are very survivalistic.

USA:

Cities: lots of 3s and 4s, some 2s

Rural: 7s, 6s, 2s, and 1s

Urban: 9s

Honestly the US has probably the most variety of any country due to the massive size combined with all the mini cultures

Germany and Japan: p6s and 1s. Very what "should" be done and orderly.

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ISJ 6 handbook!

This is a new side project that will not get a ton of attention unless I get a lot of ideas but I think it's a really good idea and I haven't seen anyone do it and let's face it guys... We're needing a lil luv lol

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Enneagram by countries!

I will be releasing this original content soon it's my current project that's in the research stage! If anyone has thoughts and suggestions feel free to dm.

I don't see a MBTI one happening anytime soon but anything is possible so MBTI thoughts are welcome too!

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How would every enneagram handle anxiety?

1: get angry about it and work on fixing the problem

2: over-focus on other people and their needs as a distraction

3: over-focus on the image they are projecting and look confident even if they are insecure

4: pull into themselves, away from others, and assume any failures are because others don’t understand them

5: arm themselves with preventative knowledge / expertise so as to combat their fear (also by avoiding confronting it)

6: attaching themselves to others/something that makes them feel more secure (either avoiding what scares them or attacking it)

7: by actively chasing distractions so they don’t slow down long enough to feel the fear deeply

8: by going after what they want or making a preemptive strike

9: avoidance, denial, hiding, retreating, pretending it doesn’t exist

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Which are the non-negotiable traits and patterns of thinking or behaviour for each type? If you (x), you are a core type (x) through and through, no matter your fixes or wing. I believe people excuse themselves through “I do x, which is opposite to the coping mechanism of the core I claim to be, but it is because I am a 6-fix” Well, maybe you are a core 6 with that fix.

1 - there’s nothing wrong with being critical and pointing out the right and the wrong way to do something; I know what the right way is.

2 - I must/should help this person, whether or not I feel like it, and put aside my own needs to focus on them; they need me to look after them/care for them/stabilize them.

3 - without success and achievement, I am nothing; I have to adapt to people naturally to make them like me and get ahead in life, since they won’t like me if I am “nothing.”

4 - if I am not being true to how I feel, even when it’s negative, then I am letting myself down; I shouldn’t have to repress who I am, or what frustrates me, just to keep the peace in a situation.

5 - it didn’t occur to me that I take without giving until people mentioned it to me; it’s natural for me to withdraw into myself, to avoid emotional entanglements, and to minimize others’ dependencies on me – I like to gain what I can from them (often in the way of knowledge) without letting them into me in return.

6 - I doubt you and your intentions, I doubt that you know what you are talking about, because I doubt myself; my inability to trust myself makes me either doubt others who seem too sure of themselves, or envious of their certainty and maybe I will follow them, because they feel surer than I do.

7 - I want a life of carefree fun free of limitations and I intend to have it; I won’t let other people, their negativity, or their refusal to move on stand in my way of personal growth and exploration and pleasure.

8 - I confront people easily and get accused of being ‘too much’ on a regular basis; the conflict that bothers other people doesn’t seem to bother me, I find it exciting to stir things up and keep them heated, since it avoids boredom, but as a result, my relationships tend to suffer. It’s not my fault they’re too soft.

9 - I may or may not identify with the descriptions of passivity, but it’s true that it’s hard for me to figure out a trajectory for my life and work at it; I tend to be a late starter and seek the path most traveled, that requires the least amount of effort to maintain; I want to be comfortable and tranquil and enjoy the slower path.

The wrongful typing arguments I most see are 9s insisting that they are keeping the peace and repressing their feelings to be kind to other people (identifying as “sp 4s”), cp6s identifying as social 8s because they are “champions of the underdog” (that’s a 6 mantra), 6s insisting that they are 4s because they “go against” whatever is popular (being a contrarian and enjoying being different is 6), various types insisting they are 5s because they like to read :P and/or are introverts, etc.

Best way to type / self-type is to pick a core and wing and stacking that ticks off all the boxes and paints a complete picture, without having to use a bunch of fix excuses as to why you are X and not Y. For example, say tritype is nonsense and/or irrelevant – what core best explains all of your motivations and reactions?

Example: I am a 6w7 sp/so. I am a 6 because I am too self-doubting and should trust myself more, too hard on myself for my mistakes, and driven by fear and avoidance of whatever intimidates me the most. I let my fear of criticism hold me back from the success that I crave (my line to 3). I wish I could be calmer and more self-assured, and just put things out of my mind (my line to 9). My 7 wing hates boredom and stagnation, likes to re-frame things into positivity and end things on a happy note, but also makes me avoidant of commitment. I hold onto other people and rely on them (as a 6) but I feel like I SHOULD take care of everything myself (super ego + sp-dom). A lot of my anxiety revolves around future potential sp needs and planning. I generally like to help other people out through this blog (social “play zone”/ social secondary). See? I don’t need fixes.

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Reblog if it's okay to invade your ask box.