raspberry-syscourse

[raspberry-syscourse]

extemely hot take but sometimes I feel like people who claim to be neutral on endogenic plurality are often** (NOT ALWAYS) anti or pro and just don't wanna get canceled. (honestly though? no hate to anyone who does this; because I understand that tumblr culture often pressures people to partake in syscourse and then beats you up for having an opinion; people think being anti means you hate and think pro means you passionately love without nuance for some reason).

like. what makes people think of themselves as neutral when they say stuff like "you need dissociation and trauma to be plural?" ...even worse when they say "I respect endos' experience because I can't tell anyone what they feel or who they are and I support all my endo friends and support the terminology they use and believe what they're experiencing is real. but i'm still neutral."

like. do people not know what neutral means anymore? because they'll say these things about *other* identities (such as xenogenders and physical alterhumans) and claim to be anti or pro, but only when the topic is endogenic plurality they'll say they're neutral for the same reason they said they were pro for something else. what. if they don't want to disclose their stance, THAT'S FINE, but that's different from just straight up lying... it's kinda weird? idk, it's always made me really uncomfortable around friends who do this

it's not that big of a deal but it's still very strange, i guess lol. i was dared to post this on my tumblr main so... treat me kindly pls </3

edit: I know people have diverse reasons for not calling themselves anti or pro. you don't need to tell me that. I am referring to a specific group of people. originally I said usually, but I fixed it to often since that's more accurate.

[raspberry-syscourse]

Something I've seen a bit that I'm really sick of is seeing people who say they're "syscourse unaligned"/"don't care for syscourse" but are really just anti endo. And I'm not talking about neutrals who happen to lean a certain way, I mean there have been multiple occasions where I've seen "syscourse unaligned" people turn around and reblog posts saying shit like "ENDOS DIE I FUCKING HATE YOU" or have a Discord server where a rule is "endos aren't welcome bc you're harmful"

If you aren't unaligned then don't say you're unaligned. It makes us end up on edge around people who say they're unaligned because we worry they're one of the Secret Actually Hates Endos "unaligned", which is really sad because that's not even the meaning of the stance!!

[raspberry-syscourse]

Always saying this. The words someone uses FOR THEMSELF are not harming anyone so shut the fuck up /nbh

Legitimately why does anyone care how someone else refers to their own system. This is such a stupid thing for folks to get so bent up about.

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[raspberry-syscourse]

It always frustrates me when people think their experience is the only one. I see this frequently in plural spaces

All disabilities, disorders, neurodivergencies, and mental illnesses are spectrums. We're all different, we'll all experience things in different ways. And this applies to plurality/systemhood/multiplicity as well

It is entirely fine for you to have your own experience with your own beliefs for yourself. But the moment you push that experience onto everyone with the same disorder/neurodivergency/[etc] as you, that's when I have a problem

[More under cut]

It is ok that you see your parts as parts of one person. It is not ok to think every system is just parts of a whole

It is ok that you see your headmates as individual people. It is not ok to think every system is a group of individual people

It is ok that your littles do not have the mental capacity to consent to adult things or be allowed in certain spaces. It is not ok to think all littles do not have that mental capacity

It is ok that you see your plurality as a purely psychological thing. It is not ok to think all systems must only be psychological [Think: There are many systems who see their plurality in a spiritual and/or metaphysical way. Compare this to atheism and religion. While religion isn't backed by science, and it's perfectly fine for you personally to believe the speculative evidence of atheism over religious beliefs*, it's still not ok to invalidate those with religious beliefs. It is not harming anyone, it's just a personal belief that they have. Leave them be]

Of course, these are not the only plural beliefs that get pushed onto others, just a few that I've noticed frequently in plural spaces. I just wish people were more accepting of other beliefs, even if you personally don't believe in them. You can do it with religion, why can't you do it with plurality too?

[I did not mention system origins in this as I believe the discourse surrounding it is a bit more nuanced and complicated than the "template" of what I'm referring to here. That would need a whole other discussion, that I'm honestly not very interested in covering]

[* I apologize if this wording is offensive in any way. I was unsure on how to phrase it. If anyone has suggestions for rewording this sentence, that would be appreciated]

[raspberry-syscourse]

Bodily minor, they/them

We'll only really be using this blog when we find syscourse related posts we agree with and want to reblog (or we disagree with and feel like starting a debate), or if we just feel like making a post related to syscourse Don't be surprised if this blog is mostly inactive, we try to stay out of discourse for our mental health. But we also enjoy civil debates, such is the point of this blog

Sys info: Suspected DID system Traumaendo + willo headmates Metaphysical beliefs Polyfragmented We are multiple people in one body, not parts of a whole

Quick syscourse stances: We believe these are valid: Endogenic and non-traumagenic plurality Willogenic and created plurality Spiritual and metaphysical plurality Plurals who are plural because of delusions or hallucinations Plurals who see their own plurality in any way so long as it is not being pushed onto anyone else We have complicated feelings on: Plural related transids, moreso due to our stance on radqueers We are against: Fakeclaiming

This blog has no DNI. The only DNI would be those coming in bad faith or with no intent to listen to the other side, however those people wouldn't listen to the DNI anyway

We will block if you say any unnecessary and unprompted hate or invalidation/fakeclaiming on our posts that are not meaningfully contributing to a conversation (i.e. replying to a post with "kys endos aren't real" or "you're just faking")