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So slay of Athena destroying Titan of war by most cruel way possible and thereby cementing her status as the most powerful goddess of war in the Greek pantheon.

The other guy could never.

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I can imagine nyx being mature but does have a silly side that Erebus brings up

Sorry for late answer. Im honestly not sure, I see them both like serious royal spouses but maybe?

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"And then darkness covered the night" or Nyx and Erebus being a little lovey dovey

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My Naruto OC Hyuga Shizuke. I doubt I can tell much about her, haha

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Can we not give "miserable wife in shadow of her husband" role to Hera. Hera is respected, powerful queen, who literally plotted against her husband several times. Others gods mostly either respect or fear her. She have more agency than modern stories show, and if she wanted to leave Zeus she would do this long time ago (she even did this once), because Zeus's previous wives left him calmly and without problems. Giving her "damsel in distress" role is misogynistic and wrong, downplaying her as literal queen of gods.

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Not even a single tag about epic under OP post and yet somehow 😔

I really like to think that Odysseus and Penelope after they first met and fell for each other were so fucking stupid I their ways of communicating. No, not in the meaning of blushing, stattering, or nervous sweating.

But in the meaning of creating unnecessary complex long schemes just to make an "accidental" meeting. Penelope will be in her palace making this grand plan that involves at least twenty people who do not know they are part of this yet to get Odysseus in the garden to meet with her father just in time for Penelope to twist the conversation the way that her sister will suggest to take a walk, just so they could "accidentally" stumble upon Odysseus who did not find their father in the garden, because just so happens he left an hour ago to the other side of the city after Penelope reminded him of a duty he had to do there, so now Penelope can't not offer to guide Odysseus to the place where he can wait, so they can walk almost alone for twenty minutes.

While odysseus is making an equally complex plan involving bribing a bard to play a song that will remind Tyndareus of the story from his youth, that Odysseus found out about beforehand, where he recieved a special gift for his palace, so Odysseus can lead the conversation the way that Tyndareus makes an offer to show Odysseus the place where the gift from the story is displayed that just so happens is located perfectly near the temple that Penelope usually visits during this time of a day. So when they finally get there a slave will be there to approach Tyndareus telling him that there is some urgent problem with one of the Helen's suitors (that Odysseus may be or may be not in fault of), so he has to leave Odysseus for himself just in time for Penelope to leave the temple, accidentally stumbling upon Odysseus.

They spend at least couple of weeks like this, then they finally have their "accidental" meeting, they talk for an hour, never saying what they mean straight, playing some fucked up mind game that from the outside look like a normal small talk, that actually consits of like seven more layers of hidden subtext.

And both of them leave the conversation with the exact thought of "I've won, now she/he has to marry me"

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Question is Hades really the least bad out of Zeus, himself and Posiden. Cuz the other two are ... horrible to say the least, but as far as i have read myth wise the worst thing Hades has done is the whole situation with Persephone. Which still bad but compared to the stuff Zeus did?

I think this notion is wrong to begin with. There is no "better" or "worse" god. I think people should stop seeing the gods literally exclusively and see them as symbols or allegories of natural phenomena. I think this whole obsession with people saying "Zeus is terrible" or "Hades is the best and loyal" etc is wrong to begin with. Is like me comparing Satan and God and say that in the Bible that Satan is "better" because "God killed millions of people in the Bible" like this is just wrong theologically and culturally. I definitely see why people say that but I think it all melts down to the fact that people see gods only with their human dimension and forget that gods are still gods aka represent some aspects of the physical world religiously

Hades was a hated God in antiquity because ancients did not want to invite death in their homes. They didn’t build temples for Hades and the few necromantic rituals happened in shrines outside their homes. Hades represents death and underworld. Gods like Zeus and Poseidon were beloved and widely worshipped because they represented everything they needed in life. Zeus represented like so many things good I had made a separate post about it when I spoke on epithets of gods.

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"Would you choose a Calypso or Circe" I choosing rope bye

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Why racism fucking exist.

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Maybe autism was the friend we make through the way

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Stop cheating to your girlfriend

i hate when spaces restrict your phone because. google docs is on there. thats my girlfriend. im so clingy. i need to tell her my story ideas and random thoughts and to do list PLEASE.

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Hi! So I've been reading the Homeric Hymn to Demeter and one line always stands out to me in particular, when Hermes comes to collect Persephone and it mentions her being Hades' unwilling bedmate (or something similar) and that she yearned for her mother in the translations that I've read. And I know things can get lost in translation, so I guess what I'm trying to ask is if Persephone being called unwilling meant to mean that Hades really did assault her, or is it more in relation to her missing her mother specifically?

Thank you so much for the ask! Yes in the Homeric Hymn to Demeter we do not only see Persephone being there against her will but arguably she even states to her mother that Hades forced her to eat the pomegranate seed:

For I would be led by joy; but he secretly put in my mouth honey-sweet seed of pomegranate and forced me to taste it against my will

(Trabslation by me)

So we have in the passage even for the pomegranate the essence of forcing here with three words no less; ἄκουσαν (without my will), βίῃ (with force) and προσηνάγκασσε (forced) so there seems to be a triple emphasis there.

But the text that interests you is this if I am not mistaken:

Next to Hades was his wife much unwilling for she was longing for her mother who was far away because of the blessed gods' dreadful will

(Translation by me)

In the passage it does seem to be an emphasis on the fact she misses her mother hence her reluctance but what I am actually interested is the emphasis on that with the word that means "much" (πόλλ᾽) aka πολλά aka "much" in this passage. And it seems that Hades tricked her upon taking the seed of pomegranate or even put it in her mouth without her knowing about it so the text does speak on abduction

We could consider of course the possibility that Persephone tries to appease her mother too thus putting emphasis of her own weakness to resist this fate but it is also a hymn that points out the definitive of death (the factor of force that takes your life away whether you like it or not when it is your time) plus of course the lack of ability for a bride to resist her own marriage potentially (since it is a hymn and not a play or epic poetry per se I think the text leans more towards the first)

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🪤 Cheese is Michael Cacoyannis

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"Jason ruined Medea and made her crazy" DO NOT give all the credits to Jason!! My girl Medea was crazy and ape shit even when their relationship was fine >:)

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I fucking hate Hades

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Help I don't like being adult abort mission abort