secondgenerationnerd

[secondgenerationnerd]

I'd like to chime in and say a child's response to trauma should not be dictated by the parent. there is no such thing as one emotional response being more valid than the other.

Facts

As long as we also agree that it is not the responsibility of others to accept abuse in the form of “a trauma response”. Lashing out? That’s going to happen. But it doesn’t make it okay

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But if a person tells you they love you and they continue to abuse you, that’s not love

she can talk abut loving him all she wants, she justifies abusing him for her personal gain

and no, im more a Tim and Bernard shipper tbh

So here’s a little bit of personal information—

My bio mom? Yeah her mom, my nana, was so overbearing/over protective, my mother didn’t know how to cut her own meat. As an adult on a date with my father.

When I was a baby, I’m talking under 6 months old, I contracted Rota virus. I lost a pound in under a week, which again, as an under 6 month old. My dad has told me about the hell she raised to protect me.

My bio mom has always used gift giving as a ways to show love.

However, I have had Low contact with her since high school. Because she continued the cycle of being over bearing/over protective. I can remember being as young as 8 years old and knowing she didn’t love me as much as she loves my sisters. Because I was the neurodivergent, plus size, independent child.

She introduced me once as her worst pregnancy.

When I came out as Bisexual to her, she was more upset id told my dad and stepmom before her. And when I started crying and told her I knew I wasn’t her favorite? She gaslit me and told me that “I paid a lot of money for this cruise, let’s go to dinner.”

Do I know she loves me in her way? Yes.

Do I love her? Yes

But I don’t like her.

It’s obviously not the same as what Damian went through, but I can tell you what a parent’s conditional love feels like. And I can tell you how much I want her love while knowing it will fucking hurt

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What did you think of Ginny’s dad in the show

I didn’t watch much past the first season.

I think he tried, I think he loves both her and Austin, but I think he could have been better about how he handled things with Georgia.

You know what scene made me fucking infuriated? When Ginny’s SH came out. It felt like Zion at least tried to understand. Georgia made it about her. Like Georgia crying to Ginny to give her all that hurt is seen as such a “wow what a good mom she is.”

But as someone who has SH before? I wanted to scream.

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are you from the US?

Yep! Southern US, but I’m autistic so I copy language from a lot of places

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Honestly, I’d like to go as far as to say Talia never cared about Damian. She did make a clone of him sooooo

Again—as long as we ignore panels like this right?

I do think she cares for him, but I can also believe her love is conditional.

And if we’re gonna talk about making a clone of someone, I hope you’re not a Timkon shipper. Other you continue to prove my point about men getting nuance

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The true problem was Jade and Roy should have used protection 💀

My best friend in the world? Yeah her parents used a condom and birth control.

My older sisters once heard a grown man tell his daughter, in the contraceptive history area of the NHM in Washington, “because this failed you’re here”

Like….shit happens my guy

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It is possible to understand a parent’s trauma without giving them a pass for the pain they pass on, even unintentionally

Id like to chime in with my two cents. I agree with this point, but the parent needs to be able to acknowledge the fact they passed on trauma

I remember you talked about this with Ginny and Georgia, which I haven’t watched , but let’s look at Talia and Jade

Jade puts Roy responsible of Lian because she knows Lian is better off.

While Talia, to an extent , never acknowledges that the training she put on Damian was way too much for a little boy. She still sees him as the heir she never got to be and justifies abusing him even after moving in with Bruce.

FUCKING THIS

Let’s also look at a very important bit of information:

Jade—Vietnamese

Talia—Middle eastern/Chinese

Georgia—White, with a mixed daughter

GUESS WHICH OF THESE WOMEN ARE CONSTANTLY REGARDED AS BEING A GOOD MOM DESPITE THE CLEAR TRAUMA THEY ARE IMPOSING WHILE THE FANDOM HATES IN THEIR TEENAGE CHILD???

Again—is Jade completely in the right? Absolutely not. But I think she understands the damage she can/has done to her daughter and does try to do better.

Talia, while the victim of shitty writing, continues a cycle of abuse.

Georgia thinks because she doesn’t physically or sexually abuse her kids, she deserves all the praise in the world.

And, most importantly—It is not the CHILD’S responsibility to protect their parent. That’s a lesson I personally have been forced to learn.

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What are the omegas pet peeves

Vague questions

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but the difference is roy got his act right

jade handed her off to Roy (rightfully so) and still continued to be an assassin

same thing with Talia, she handed Damian off the Bruce and she was still on her villain shit

and also jade is s evil evil , which I think is better than being a druggie

Right so based on about 5 minutes of research I learned that— Jade was sold into fucking slavery as a child, after a traumatic childhood. And that’s just the publication history. The Young Justice show shows us how she and her sister were physically and emotionally and mentally abused/neglected, something that plenty of research will show has factors in a person’s long time development.

But just sticking with publication history— after killing her master, she was adopted by someone who taught her all about guerilla warfare. Surely that was a loving environment where she could work through issues.

But we can’t allow our selves to consider how fucking hard change can be. No it’s so much easier to say ��she’s just evil evil no good in her doesn’t care about anything or anyone.”

As long as we ignore panels like this:

The funny thing is? If it was any man doing this? Y’all would eat it up. Men get nuance, women are evil bitches.

Sometimes it’s not about “making a good choice”

It’s having good choices

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do you think lian ever looks at Damian and thinks he could have ended up like him, traumatized AF?

Oh absolutely. Him, Maya, Sin.

I think she and Damian have had conversations about their mothers. Like Lian loves her mom and it hurts when she leaves. Hates her mom for leaving even if it keeps her safe. Damian loves Talia and knows she’s a victim to the same trauma he was, but hates that she didn’t do more to protect him.

It is possible to understand a parent’s trauma without giving them a pass for the pain they pass on, even unintentionally

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Yea… she’s was raised by Roy more because he’s not an assassin

Are we skipping over from his time as a mercenary? Or a drug addict?

Oh wait i forgot! It’s because she’s a woman and we have to hold them to higher, if not unreachable, standards while praising men for being able to wipe their own asses!

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Please know this Star Wars day, Jai told Colin “May the Fourth be with you.”

And the Catholicism in Colin made him immediately respond with “and also with you.”

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Where would you place the omegas on the alignment chart?

All of them are in the Good Line…..frankly, they’re all chaotic good. Like they’re going to do the right thing, no doubt about it, but in their own way.

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Mari feels like a true neutral between her parents

and considering her mother is an assassin , shit I would be a daddy’s girl too

That’s usually my goal with most the kids. Like they’re their own people, but you can see parts of their parents come out

And we do not besmirch Jade in this house! Roy’s hands ain’t exactly clean. Lian has just been raised by him more, but never ever doubt how much Lian loves her mommy

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Random HC:

Mar’i Grayson may look like a Daddy’s Girl

But Lian Alice Nguyen Harper is a Daddy’s Girl

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I never would have thought that clumsiness could be part of the tism spectrum

Yeah it’s a bitch

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As a Spanish speaker , be careful with google translate when it comes to slang. And all Spanish is not built the same ,Mexican Spanish is going to be different than Dominican Spanish, etc etc

For example, ask a group of Hispanic people how do you say straw in Spanish and you’ll get a different response from each ethnicity

I took Spanish for like 8 years, so I remember that much. I use Google translate for the basics, but I do try to research slang