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On the set of “The silence of the lambs”
#movies#silence of the lambs#i ALWAYS think she's on the beach whenever i see this one#and it gives me visions of my ideal hannibal movie adaptation that deviates strongly from the novel but doesn't suck#i don't think i could fully explain how this fits in but it does
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passage from wikipedia that made me unexpectedly laugh out loud the other night
#hannibal movies#technically#don’t remember why my mom was reading martha stewart's wikipedia page out loud#but she got to this and i went “wait what??”#do you think he (hannibal) would be offended/disappointed by this#of course everything just comes back to me remembering that don mancini has 2 writing credits on the show#and my brain just goes chucky voice WHO the FUCK is MARTHA STEWART#hannibal: my idol ✨
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bringing it up again for the millionth time but I'm still obsessed with the way that hannibal lecter is canonically aware of the narrative not because its ever explicitly stated but because the author who created him genuinely believes this to be true and stopped writing the book series because he's afraid of him
#books#god i know...#fascinating dude (thomas harris)#now i don't fully believe that he believes everything he says in his forewords but i do love the way he writes about hannibal as an entity#(like when he's like i wasn't sure if i was going to continue this story but the force of the narrative compelled me and i had to...#oh yeah was it really. but it certainly lends a mythic tone to the novels before you start)
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(trying to give relationship advice) from a narrative perspective i think both of you dying together would be the most emotionally satisfying resolution but i’m guessing that’s not what you want to hear
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your good friend just had a successful and complication-free amputation, and has invited you to come cook and taste the amputated limb at an impromptu shindig
#this is pretty close to my interpretation of what bedelia's doing at the end. btw#anyway in this situation i'd probably be morbidly curious about trying it (i mean you know for a FACT it's from an ethical source)#but most meats are. not on my autistic ass' safe foods list in the first place.#so it would probably depend entirely on whether the preparation is appetizing to me (knowing exactly where it came from would probably help#so sure somewhere between the first and second options
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has anyone edited the twin peaks score into scenes from hannibal yet. i'm already imagining my ideal placements for various iconic tracks
(alternatively: has anyone edited the hannibal score into twin peaks scenes yet)
#hannibal#nbc hannibal#twin peaks#finally peaksposting on all 3 of my blogs#note: i don't think laura's theme should be played over abigail's death i think it should be the song that's playing when maddie dies#laura's theme should be reserved for other scenes like when will accepts that she isn't actually there in florence#the pink room theme for any of the scenes where hannibal gets someone all drugged up (especially mason in tome-wan but also#the dinner table scene in dolce)#red room theme/dance of the dream man for will and hannibal's early therapy sessions#the nightingale over jack and hannibal's fight scenes#into the night when will is having one of his hallucinatory walks outside at night#i need to relisten to the instrumental score alongside julee cruise's songs#so i can get a clear sense of what would fit best with which scenes
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on the subject of hannibal (2001): who do we think they would have cast as margot verger if she'd been allowed to be in the movie...would they have gone the show's route of making her palatably femme and conventionally attractive, or would they have looked for an actress of the right physique but left out any references to her sexuality, or found some kind of medium
the only other speculations i've seen on the subject were suggesting like, female pro wrestlers of the time, but i feel like that kind of casting might have gone against the tone they were going for
#hannibal movies#book margot i still love you...#i know the bar was on the floor for queer representation in this series at that point#but i feel like it shouldn't be that hard to improve on how she's portrayed.#just leave out the weird/gross ways the narration talks about her body#(people have said that it kind of feels like the story is blaming her for being infertile by “ruining” her body with steroids.#i do think that implication is there but also there are all sorts of reasons why a person would be naturally unable to have bio children#she doesn't have to also have had been forcibly sterilized by her brother who already sucks. just saying)
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finding out that the novel hannibal, while not as contractual as hannibal rising, was still written at the request of the de laurentiises and not because thomas harris was just that compelled to continue the story of his own volition, makes a whole lot of sense. still i have to wonder if this means he was sitting there writing that ending like oh fuck i have to wrap this up soon because dino's expecting a manuscript any day now. (hence why it feels a bit rushed). or if it was more like ohohoho good luck filming THIS, assholes
i imagine he wasn't too attached to it because he approved them changing it for the movie, or at least knew there was no way that was getting into a mainstream film production advertised as the sequel to a blockbuster oscar-winning hit. but i also feel like you wouldn't write something like that unless you really believed in it as the best ending for your story. at least the brain-eating (which really seemed to put audiences off, as if this wasn't always a series about a cannibal serial killer who does fucked-up things to people's minds and bodies) made it in.
probably also helped that most of the cast and crew from silence they were hoping to get back - director jonathan demme, screenwriter ted tally, lead actress jodie foster - were so turned off by the book's ending that they declined to return. honestly i don't blame them. i do find de laurentiis' statement on demme turning it down to be amusing, though: "when the pope dies, we create a new pope. good luck to jonathan demme. good-bye." ridley scott won the conclave i guess
i'm gearing up to rewatch the hannibal movies so i can give my thoughts on them the same way i did the books a while back. i've been planning to do it ever since i just haven't had the time. i think this one would get a solid 2.5 out of 5 man-eating boars from me
#hannibal movies#i was also amused by scott's statement upon de laurentiis contacting him about directing a movie called hannibal#which was:#“i'm doing a roman epic [gladiator] right now. i don't want to do elephants coming over the alps next old boy”#which is reminiscent of anthony hopkins' initial reaction to being approached about silence of the lambs (“is it a children's story?”)
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happy 11th anniversary of this scene to those who celebrate! 🥳🎉
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fucked up hurt/comfort. the person who stabbed you tends to your wound. the person who killed your loved one helps you grieve.
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something i find interesting about the hannibal books is that, despite being built up as a loathsome figure who hannibal is absolutely going to kill unpleasantly at some point, we never find out frederick chilton's fate. by the novel hannibal he's disappeared, and he does have people he knew asking after him, but no one ever found out what happened to him in the intervening 7 years after hannibal's escape. everyone presumed he tracked down chilton and killed him but you'd think we'd see that, or at least describe it in flashback.
hannibal does say/think at some point that they're going to find chilton with "feeding instructions tattooed on his forehead" which implies he didn't plan to kill him, because he really wanted to make him suffer instead. or he could have just been brainstorming ideas at that point, he was still in prison. that does sound like foreshadowing for what we would find out he'd done to mason verger, and i have a semi-formed theory that verger's fate was originally intended for chilton before harris decided to give it to a new character who would be more deserving, or something.
something similar might be behind the fate of paul krendler, who is even characterized in the novel hannibal similarly to how chilton was in silence, albeit more petty and immature about it while also being more specifically vindictive against clarice. i'm used to rights issues being the reason for any given character not appearing, but that's obviously not the case for the books so who knows. the show at least more than made up for the lack of comeuppance for book chilton by putting him through the absolute wringer every season
#hannibal#hannibal books#in the script for the finale chilton even describes his own burned face and people's reaction to it#the same way mason's disfigured face is described in the book#(i didn't love how the show made chilton more pathetic and entertaining than outright dislikable like his book counterpart#and even gave most of the power over hannibal that he had and abused in the bshci to alana in s3#because i thought the books' point that even people imprisoned for violent crimes on that scale don't deserve to be subjected to#petty cruelty and indignity by people now in power over them - was somewhat important#but now i just enjoy show chilton's mix of smarmy dumbassery and sympathetic points for what it is#raul esparza gives a great comedic performance when he needs to in that show)
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lecter said "hell,
if i am guilty then god is as well"
but god was acquitted, and lecter committed, before he could hang
still he sang--
#hannibal#assassins#assassins musical#nbc hannibal#i guess#i really need to post here more often i've been slacking#but i love assassins (the musical) and this lyric has been rolling around in my head in connection with hannibal#and his whole you think i'm bad? god is always worse. deal
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i don’t endorse him or anything but like. what else are you supposed to do if you’re named hannibal
#okay i reblogged this before but that addition is also good#whenever i see a comment on a hannibal post that's like i thought this was about the carthaginian general i'm like no you didn't.#but maybe other people have very different cultural osmosis knowledge than me#that Was the primary association with the name pre-lecter
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i don’t endorse him or anything but like. what else are you supposed to do if you’re named hannibal
#i know we've made every possible joke about this but it's still so funny that it's literally his name#(i will say. i do not think there is any reference to cannibalism in the first book aside from a mention that his nickname is#“hannibal the cannibal”#so you could say it's originally implied that that's just what they called him because it rhymed even though he didn't actually eat anyone#but later harris was like fuck it make him an actual cannibal it's too good to pass up)
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i have ideas
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