#“u mean he’s a homme fatale” NO

[im-a-luxury]

i think one of the many reasons people (specifically queer people) latched onto gambit is bc we were desperately in need of a femme fatale character that was actually just a guy

[mostlikelytofangirl]

What’s the strongest evidence for nieyao in the novel, cql or audio drama?

Oh anon, always with the best nieyao questions ;u;

Ok let's see.

I'm by no means the most well versed in any of the adaptations tbh (adhd brain says memory is extra fragile in this one :'D). But from what I can recall, or at least had the strongest impression from would be these:

In novel I'd say the whole baby thing. Yes, I always bring this up. Yes, I love it and it has changed me as a person. It's ultimate display of how much of a nurturing, soft person MY was alongside the military and strategist skills NMJ already knew MY had. It's the full package right there!

(Also the deleted scene of JGY chopping NMJ's corpse with an axe while politely asking him not to haunt him is peak erotism imo).

Now, for all my reservations with cql, the nieyao is something that got so upgraded there! I mean, they gave them an entire backstory even before the war! MY was part of the Unclean Realm and very clearly stated as the one person NMJ would listen to, his right-hand man entrusted with everything sect leader needed and with full clearance to everything in the clan, he was almost family! NMJ was legit crying when he casted MY out!! His flashbacks have MY being a sexy homme fatale, c'mon! How could anyone watch cql and NOT see all the feelings between them aaahhhhhh!!!!

Audio drama... tbh I'd put this adaptation right with novel itself bc of how faithful it is to it. At least I can't recall a thing that's audio drama exclusive, especially relating to nieyao. I'd only point out the absolute emotion they put into the performing of their scenes :').

ALSO TRAPPED TOGETHER IN A COFFIN FOR ETERNITY.

If you or anyone else have more examples that I missed here tho, I'd love to hear them!

[hunny-pp]

rate your old men on fuckability

cant tell if you mean my old man ocs or my old men faves, so if i choose the wrong breed you can hit me on the head with a 2x4 with nails on it

i'll do some of my ocs u want that

shigeru higanbana: 1000/10, VERY fuckable

super sweet and pretty, graceful and a bit of a homme fatale, also super into romance. you could put ur head on his boobs if you want, you're in for a lovely time, you should smash him definitely

this guy: -10/10, not quite fuckable

i mean yea he's alright, he's very handsome and also a decent person so he's fuckable on paper but like he's on the verge of always Going Thru It. not quite fuckable until he's certified Okay Now™ and not going through the horrors

shō nishiyama: 69.9/10, your grandma would carnally desire him

a nice old man :), likes cooking strange foods, works as a librarian and a hit with the single old ladies! has the spice of being a horror protag and being divorced with a dead kid two-in-one, repressed, i bet you could change his world

camille/shukaku: 6.9/10 and 100/10: i mean you could fuck him if you like cringe fail men and this one's a dream guy for me rawr x3

these two's designs aren't finished yet so theyre a two in one. Camille has the trans man cringe fail swag about him, loves fishing - cannot catch a single fish = terrible hunter/gatherer in caveman world, also cranky bounty hunter but other than that, if you like cringe fail men i guess you could eat him alive

shukaku is a tanuki toy maker who looks what he does and also it means he's super nice and good with his hands :*, super big and fluffy tail, ill give him a hairier chest but other than that what's not to love you should definitely screw him

[sugar-petals]

When I look at yuzuru he strikes me as a really soft cutesy charming etheral individual not really homme fatal kind of guy that's why I think he's pure romantic rather than TR what do u think? ( love you btw)

i’ve been thinking about it as well, but it’s not a crystal clear case. he’s a sportsman, skating morphs the body in the most uncommon ways which makes it harder to narrow down the type. 

basics first so we get the foundations right: pinpointing the kibbe category he is + isn’t and why, the subtype after.

1. which one of the big 5?

- safe to say, yes: he’s somewhere in the romantic category. nobody does these outfits quite like yuzu. light fabrics, intricate embellishments, he is famous for all that gorgeous princely tailoring. the sport is all about the sequins, he definitely shines in them. every professional figure skating photographer out there will tell you that he hits different and you can see why.

WOW.

i’ve witnessed people complaining that the glitz and glam no longer suits his age, he gets scorn for not dressing traditionally masculine, but i don’t know how it wouldn’t look appropriate. the only valid criticism is that it’s often a hit or miss, but we’d be damned if this isn’t what an ice prince looks like.

he’s the best in the world and his main goal is to put on a show. rolling up in a polo shirt would contradict the objective, being an allround artist first and only then a jump technician. he’s exactly how you’d expect a yuzuru hanyu to look like. if you appear ‘like yourself’, it’s the right kibbe category.

R clothing typically has a sexy edge as well, you can’t put a kid into that. cut out cleavage, transparent, figure-hugging, no way. if anything, most R styles seemed all over the place when yuzu was younger (this is from 2010). yin is meant to be tailored for adults to begin with, you can’t make it teenage gamine.

eleven years later at 26, yuzuru hanyu in 2021, adult man, wearing the hell out of a skating gala outfit. this would be tacky on someone any younger. R is not just light and sweet but also dignified and mature. long story short. he’s grown into a yin-dominant type. fits to a T, a feast for the eye.

- meanwhile: you can easily exclude dramatic. very thick, stable fabrics with large lines are gigantic on him. D clothing is a yuzu charm killer, figures because it’s the type opposite to romantic (pure yang). it washes out the face and is twice as wide as his frame is, bulks out around the shoulders.

- not a natural type either, it feels a bit too simple, underchallenging. ruffled hair appears dishevelled where it’d be just right on a natural. it doesn’t fully highlight him: natural looks aren’t the most memorable on yuzuru even if they tend to be rather neutral and don’t look too off per se, it has a bit of draping after all. 

he looks really good in the below outfit, but his frame doesn’t fill it out. he’s all elegant underneath and radiates ballet while N is a rough, easy-going, and leisurely concept for very bulky frames. the waist gets missing in translation, the mid-section of shirts like these is too wide.

- not a gamine either. he might appear like one and i deliberated back and forth whether he is Pure G or FG, but the material mix, line breaks, and fashion experiments are creating chaos rather than something put-together. it just isn’t as flattering as when he does drapes and florals. the hair being cropped (typical gamine cut) often obfuscates the face. G styles are confusing on yuzu.

his skating is from outer space but this is probably a bit too galactical 😅

- not a classic. something’s not right, suits like these contrast a lot with how round his face is and sit on his body very randomly. missing waist again (yin). the same people who want him to dress more conservatively/masculine have been roasting yuzu for looking like a salary man in that style 🤔 i sense hypocrisy. in any case, classic underwhelms, he’s made to dress up. more points to yin, he he’s too petite to wear C.

now, we got the main category down, time for subtyping. romantic has two options.

2. which romantic?

arguments in favor of Theatrical Romantic:

this type is what he often portrays in the rink (e.g. the phantom of the opera programme) and has become his secret weapon. whether that speaks of his true type is the question. what i mean is, he can pull it off, the seductive homme fatale. compare jimin, people lose their minds over theatrical romantic men. yuzu is in that lane as well.

as in, balance of main yin with a yang undercurrent — the very gentle, princely young man with the soft face who gathers everyone’s hearts, and he is a damn flirt on ice, but who can give a very visceral, dark performance. that shows a tremendous fervor and an edge, with an athletic and taut body.

he does have some yang elements to his physicality. streamlined silhouette, some narrowness, extreme flat muscle, long triangular upper body, some vertical line. also — his color palette (aka skin undertone, cool v warm, hue, chroma, deepness etc) might match TR. on the other hand, it might simply be the black hair giving him the contrast for it. 

the reason why we might get the TR impression is that he often wears all black which suggests dramatic, and the athleticism in his profession has trained away the chubbiness he might naturally have. the face as the only part that won’t be somehow affected by his routine is all yin. 

arguments in favor of pure Romantic:

... as you pointed out. in private life and backstage, he is quite effortlessly sweet- and small-looking. with the delicacy and doe-eyedness you’d expect from pure romantic, very unlike his performance persona. 

if you didn’t know he’s copyrighted BDE on the ice, yuzu seems like he can’t harm a fly, round rosy bean he is. he makes a very innocent and soft 1st impression in candids which no other type except soft gamine does.

facial features, all opposite of yang. not long, not sharp, not planar, not angular, not bony, not narrow. the button nose, full lips, and puffy cheeks is all you see. you’d not think of him as striking (=D, FN).

that’s also why he’s always pitted as nathan chen’s opposite in whatever he does. nate is on the other end of the kibbe spectrum, people probably don’t even realize that their physical lines are contrasting archetypes. it’s subconsciously part of why people can construct such a rivalry. 

study nathan’s face and it becomes apparent. very oblong shape, flat-laying flesh and an asymmetric jaw that couldn’t be any more prominent (=yang). the brows and eyes create a powerful horizontal unlike yuzu’s more wide-set puppy eyes. the nose is longer, the ears, too. nathan looks sharp, piercing, and intimidating rather than soft. you see the exact outline of the bone.

with him, you assume the reverse of what people think of yuzu at first glance. if you didn’t know that nathan couldn’t be any nerdier, you’d believe he’s 1000% jock-off-the-charts. how he has a lot of yang contributed to his on-ice image, too. one’s kibbe type can shape life choices since people see you in a certain way simply based on your lines.

how yuzu is such a visual difference to nathan further points to how he’s closer to pure yin: rather than a subtype that picks up elements from dramatic. otherwise, you’d see some of that angularity. but no: roundness over structure, you see the flesh, not frame. you couldn’t call him a jock by all means 😆 

you won’t see that chiseled geometry and crazy jawline/browline. as you say he’s more cutesy, and a charmer, the whole fandom will agree. pure romantics have everyone wrapped around their fingers (and their booty lmao!) because you want to pepper them with kisses, yin types all look so non-threatening and beautiful. ethereal is the right word. 

and they’re the sexiest ofc, since they’re curvy. R got hips.

sigh... this type is a showstopper. what to do with him. he can beam at ya or he can sway his hips at ya, another unsuspecting hanyu interessee falls for the guy. he does the prince concept and the sexy cutie alike.

he tries to convince us otherwise 😂

sexy aside, he looks great in the respective clothing recs, with waist emphasis and rounded edges. kimonos are often soft dramatic or natural-inspired, but it works out well this way. and again: romantic is not childish/playful clothing of some kind, it can be very official and deliberate.

rather than in edge tailoring which is very loose around his arms and does yuzu no justice. that’s actually the kind of clothing that makes him appear either younger or older depending on if it’s D or C.

TLDR - he might not seem completely yin in his appearance, but that’s because of his excessive sports regimen. since yuzu has been training since he was a kid, we never saw how he’d normally be. he rocks the pure romantic regardless and it’s likely it’s his kibbe type. him wearing R is always a spectacle.

bonus kibbe meme: yuzu, photoshopped to the moon and back, wearing soft dramatic for a toothpaste ad. amazing.

[gayspock]

whats penumbra about?

oh well that is a Question

this is very long but tl;dr: sometimes its about gay nb detectives, sometimes its about lizard fucking, sometimes its about genderqueer lesbian bandits 

LIKE!! it’s a podcast and?? initially it started off as an anthology kind of thing??? in season one, every other arc was part of the juno steel series, and the rest were oneshot short stories.  that means like?? you COULD just listen to the juno steel arc, or just the oneshot stories by themselves and they’re all totally independent of each other and it’d make perfect Sense. like theyre not... even in the same universe, kinda sense. juno is set on mars; second citadel is high fantasy; and the oneshot episodes are in whatever universe that. yknow.

then in season 2 they realised that they wanted to explore one of season one’s oneshot stories’ universes a little more (second citadel) and so season 2 has been Basically alternating between juno steel and second citadel every other arc. it might sound a little complicated but?? it’s just like listening to two different series at once kinda thing - and hell, u can even skip over certain ones (although? i strongly advise against it).

ANYWWAYS AS FORO LIKE... ACTUAL STORIES, IN SHORT:

Oneshot episodes: in season 1 there’s just a variety of oneshot episodes, i guess??? shaken, home (i didnt listen to that one, tho), and the coyote of the painted planes. TCotPP is like... my favourite. like absolute Favourite. not to be That Bitch but like? genderqueer lesbians?? incredible. put it in moma. literal Bandit: what they steal next will shock you! (psst, it’s mary-anne’s heart). genuienly a Very Good Short story 

Second Citadel: like i said before. high fantasy. mostly the stories of knights, who’re protecting their kingdom from monsters but also focuses a lot on the prejudice they face. sir caroline, for example, is a lesbian knight who’s the first woman to be knighted - and consequently, receives a lot of discouragment from her peers. sir marc, too: he tried almost 300 times to be offically knighted, before eventually being Barred entirely, on the basis of his disability. also??? lizard fucking.

juno steel: anD LASTLY... probably the Most Prominent story, as it’s an every-other-episode deal throughout seasons 1 an 2 meaning it’s had the Most Screentime but also? it’s just. VERY VERY GOOD. basically it follows the story of juno steel - a jaded pi, who lives on mars. (juno? by the way? nonbinary, very fucking bisexual, and depressed as hell - which, talk about a mood.) a lot of it’s? trying to subvert the classic noir kinda style. juno’s kind of a sarcastic Mess of a Lady and is swooped off of his feet pretty much instantaneously by homme fatale “Rex Glass”  (makes out with him by episode 2, pretty much - and get used to the Kisssing Noise, because christ). his secretary, rita, is also? my absolute favourite and id die for her. (also the juno steel universe  is set in, like, the FAR-FAR future, so whilst? second citadel shows a lot more about prejudice, juno steel is Mostly like OH, EVERYONES GAY AND GENDER WAS THROWN OUT THE WINDOW CENTURIES AGO, so it’s all Normalised which, honestly, is reallt refreshing tbh)

ANWYAY I THINK/?? THAT SUMS IT UP PRETTY MUCH SDOJSGJSDJV. LIKE THERE’S A LOT BUT ITS VERY GOOD AND VERY WORTH IT