#Athair

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"Yesterday's" Comic> Knuckles The Echidna #11

BW's "Yesterday's" Comic> Knuckles The Echidna #11

“What do you know? The floor really is lava.” Knuckles The Echidna #11 Archie Comic Publications (April, 1998) “The Forgotten Tribe” part 2: “Covenant” WRITER: Ken Penders PENCILER: Manny Galan INKER: Andrew Pepoy COLORIST: Barry Grossman LETTERER: Vickie Williams EDITOR: J. Freddy Gabrie Continue reading Untitled

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Minor edit of the Brotherhood of Guardians where Janelle-Li's muzzle has been changed to match the rest of the Guardians

Original under the cut (Archie STH #112)

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{Sonic the Hedgehog} "Sonic meets Athair" For © KatarinaTheCat

Sonic: So... You're Knuckles' grandfather, right?

???: I am.

Sonic: Tails told me to come find you. He says that Gerald mentioned something about a wise, old echidna that used to be the protector of this island, just like Knuckles. He probably goes by the name of "Grandmaster Athair". Are you two actually related somehow...?

???: "Athair", eh? "Athair"... Now, that's a name I've not heard ever since. Well, At least not for a long time now....

Sonic:(Puzzled) Wait... what?

???: Oh, nothing.

Sonic: So, do you actually know who this "Athair" guy is? or--

???: Well... Of course, I know him-- He's ME.*

Sonic: ...What do you mean "He's YOU"?

???: My name is actually "Grandmaster Athair". I've been keeping my identity a secret in order to hide my family's secret from the United Federation.

Sonic: And that worked?

Athair: Whatever do you mean by that? Of course, it worked. I still live, don't I?

Sonic: You'd really thought that keeping your family's identity a secret would help you hide your actual secrets from G.U.N?

Athair: Well, I-- Umm...

Sonic: If you're really wanted by G.U.N, wouldn't they be looking for anyone with the same crescent symbol as Knuckles?

Athair: Well, to be fair, my boy... The Guardian Unit of Nations had found me a couple of times.... Even the G.U.N Commander himself managed to track me down at some point, but somehow I've elude him along with his entire military forces, and no one has set foot on this Island sanctuary ever since.

Sonic: So, why hide it?

Athair: To avoid being compromised, of course. If there wasn't another echidna like me, there would be no left to track down and capture.

Sonic: And you haven't set foot on this planet ever since? Isn't that a little... idk, weird?

Athair: Isn't it any weird than having to guard the Master Emerald every now and then? The only thing that seems off in some cases is usually when utlimate power could ultimately corrupt someone in the wrong way.

Sonic: But also, with great power, comes great responsibility. I mean, that's a good lesson to learn, isn't it?

Athair: Well, back in the olden days, we echidnas know a few things about power and responsibility way back when our clan used to prosper on the floating island once, until eventually it all fell apart, which is how maybe a few still remain alive today, just like your guardian echidna friend.

(Everything remains silent for a second)

Sonic: ...I'd like to know more about your guardians way, if you let me :)

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Some archie sonic memes

Another version tell me which is better

I’ll probably do some more but I hit the picture limit for now

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So while double checking how to spell Athair's name, I found this.

That's Athair. In Sonic Underground.

I never got far in Sonic Underground, but I knew Knuckles was in it. Still, no fuckin' clue Athair was too.

The wiki page says it's just Athair, no other archie originals in the show.

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OKAY HOLD UP

LOTR TWO TOWERS EE

THE FUCKING STEW SCENE? WHY DID THEY CUT THAT?

ALSO THE TONE OF FARAMIR'S ENTIRE CHARACTER BEING CHANGED BY 30 SECONDS OF MONOLOGUE??? WHY DID THEY CUT THAT! (BOOK FARAMIR COMING THRUUU)

SAM'S CHICKEN SEASONING? (DROP THE RECIPE BESTIE!)

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"Yesterday's" Comic> Knuckles The Echidna #10

BW's "Yesterday's" Comic> Knuckles The Echidna #10

Knuckles is your god now! Knuckles The Echidna #10 Archie Comic Publications (March, 1998) “The Forgotten Tribe” part 1 WRITER: Ken Penders PENCILER: Manny Galan INKER: Andrew Pepoy COLORIST: Barry Grossman LETTERER: Vickie Williams EDITOR: J. Freddy Gabrie Continue reading Untitled

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Fun fact about underground

It was made it promote sonic adventure

Yep

THAT SONIC ADVENTURE, with chaos

I did not know this! I knew they did a Sonic Adventure episode, because I remember seeing that one around the time Sonic Adventure was out and being like "Wow, this is very different, but idc it's more Sonic". But I never knew the whole series was actually made to promote the game So like, I assume it was the same situation as the Archie Comics around that time and the people working on Sonic Underground weren't given any info on Sonic Adventure and had to do their own thing? Except that they didn't have Patrick Spaziante working his hardest with the Japanese translation to figure stuff out?

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💚💛❤️ Merry Dankmas 💚💛❤️

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terrible grandson, 0/10, can't you reroll?

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Turbo Tails & The Chosen One Prophecy (More specifically how to fix it)

The Prophecy & It’s Problems

(I’m gonna be breaking this up into sections cause its gonna be a lot)

The chosen one prophecy has always been a contentious subject in the the Archie sonic community. Some people like the prophecy while other people hate it with a burning passion.

Me personally I like cause it gives Tails (My favorite character) some time to shine and show off that he is more than a sidekick for sonic.

But let’s get into what the Prophecy actually says.

Pretty simple right a chosen one will walk among regular Mobians and realign the chaos emeralds for something called the great harmony.

Well here’s where it gets complicated when the great harmony happens no harmony really happens the chaos emeralds just become 7 instead of millions.

If anything things get worse after the great harmony happens.

What Harmony? (THE PLACEMENT)

Some examples

Fiona betrays the Freedom Fighters

Knothole gets blown up

Tails and Sonic get into a actual fight

The Echidnas and Saffron get sent to Turbohell

There is an attempted coup d'é·tat from the Prowers

Sally gets robotized

The Universe is reset multiple times,one resulting in many characters getting erased from existence

Mammoth Mogul and Naugus get out of Jail

This is only a little too.

Looking it all this dosen’t seem that harmonious

Note:I know some of this is from Ken Penders lawsuit but I’m just looking at what happened in the comic not in real life.

Now I’m not saying let everything be dandelions and sunshine after cause that be boring but it’s placement in the comic is weird considering this feels like a end of the comic event.

If you haven’t realized it yet one of the many problems is the placement of this event.

Another problem I’m going to be talking about in the next section is the people involved.

Why are you here? (The People)

The people involved with it are Sonic,Eggman,Shadow,Tails,Tommy,and Adam.

Now look at that roster and tell any of them other than tails are necessary for this event.

Sonic sure because Tails is his little brother and he should be there to see how amazing his little bro is.

But Eggman,Adam,Tommy,and Shadow are not necessary.

You know who is actually necessary

Mogul (The Mammoth that was set up as Tails’s ultimate villain)

Athair (The Echidna who told us about the prophecy)

The Ancient Walkers (The dinosaurs who made the prophecy)

Merlin (The Fox who should have been training Tails for the prophecy but I’ll talk about him in a different post)

The Freedom Fighters (The people who raised Tails and would not have let him be kidnapped by Jules of all people)

But none of these people are here cause we have to see Super Sonic even though the Enerjak arc is not too far off

Note:The Great Harmony is issue 169 while the Enerjak arc is issue 184

The final and in my opinion biggest problem is the Execution

All That Build Up For What? (The Execution)

Dear god does the execution of the Great Harmony suck ass. (Excuse my language)

I’m sorry but the event that every ancient being has hyping up for more than 100 chapters amounts to opening a portal and putting emeralds in the silent zone.

I’m sorry but that sucks.

Where the pizzaz,the excitement,the pacing.

Then after all of that were meant to feel sorry for character that nobody cared about dying.

Now that we’ve covered all we can move onto the next part of this post Turbo Tails.

Turbo Tails

Ahh Turbo Tails so underrated yet so deserving of the critiscms you get.

But I won’t be too harsh on you after all it’s not your fault it’s the writers.

Lets just go over what Turbo Tails is.

But wait that’s complicated too cause nobody knows what Turbo Tails is.

He not’s a super form cause Athair needed Merlin to awaken Tails as the chosen one to fight chaos knuckles.

Some more proof of this is that Merlin and Athair both believe that Turbo Tails is stronger than Super Sonic and Hyper Knuckles

(Reminder they believed that Turbo Tails only lost because he was a clone so could Turbo Tails beat Chaos Knuckles)

Now it this was anybody else’s saying that Turbo Tails was stronger than them. I would have some disbelief but they are people who have direct lines of communication to the Ancient Walkers (The dinosaurs who are so good at manipulating the chaos force that they are viewed as gods) and practice manipulating the chaos force so I’m gonna believe them.

Heck Master Mogul was beating the crap out of Super Sonic and Hyper Knuckles however when Turbo Tails shows up they start winning.

(Before Turbo Tails)

(After Turbo Tails)

But complications arrive when during the Great Harmony when Turbo Tails is formed when the Chaos Emeralds all arrive at the tower.

So that’s another issue that needs to be fixed what is the Turbo Form and what is its Power.

More specifically why is the tails the only one that gets a Turbo Form, I mean the comic had no problem giving sonic a completely new form

I.E Ultra Sonic

But enough of me ragging on Turbo Tails.

It is finally time for me to take this jumbled mess of a Prophecy and somewhat decent in my opinion your free to disagree with any of my ideas.

How To Fix It

(Remember from here on out this is my interpretation)

Lets start from the beginning and by beginning I mean with the Prophecy itself.

So first off when it says the Chosen One will bring Harmony its means to bring Harmony to the Chaos Force not to the entire world.

I bet you're asking why would the Chaos Force need Harmony. The reason is because most people go to the negative side of the Chaos Force not the positive side of it. Some Examples of These Type of People

Finitevius

Mammoth Mogul

Ixis Naugus

Perfect Chaos

The Echidna Brotherhood of Guardians (Only some members)

Enerjak

While the people who use the positive side of the Chaos Force are

Knuckles

Tails

Sonic

So yeah not a big list of positive chaos force users

Note:I didn't include Shadow because he uses both sides and Silver because he is from a future where the Chaos Force is already Harmonized

So when Tails harmonizes the chaos force what he is really doing is making more positive chaos users like Ray,Mighty,and the ancestor to Silver.

This fixes the placement issue as instead of being some big event that felt like it was placed in the wrong area because threats keep coming it makes the good side a little more balanced and allows threats to keep coming since the Chaos Force was balanced instead of the World getting Great Harmony that isn't actually there.

The next issue I'm gonna fix is gonna be the people involved because Tommy does not need to be here.

What's gonna happen instead of Adam kidnapping Tails and forcing him to call the emeralds Mogul is gonna kidnap him instead cause he actually knows that the Prophecy is a thing and wants the chaos energy to become an All Powerful God again.

(Reminder:Master Mogul only shows up when Mammoth Mogul gets an obscene amount of chaos energy like when he absorbed Enerjak's energy or Chaos Knuckles energy so I think a ton of chaos emeralds would work.)

Also it makes more sense for Mogul to kidnap him instead of Jules just suddenly being able to fight a freedom fighter all of a sudden.

Of course the Freedom Fighters aren't just gonna sit there and let Mogul just kidnap Tails so they go after him with the Chaotix as backup giving a reason why Mighty and Ray get Chaos Powers after this.

If it involves the chosen one you know Merlin,and Athair come along, maybe even have the Ancient Walkers come along cause all five of know that now is when the Prophecy is gonna happen.

So now you have all your players in the field

This fixes the problem of the people involved as we know have gotten Eggman,Tommy,Shadow,and Adam out of the story and the more key important people involved.

The battle is fought between the Freedom Fighters & Chaotix on one side and the Destructix,Naugus and Mogul on the other side.

Now for the match ups these being

Sergeant Simian vs Mighty,Bunnie

Flying Frog vs Amy,Fiona

Lightning Lynx vs Espio,Sally

Predator Hawk vs Saffron,Ray,Charmy

Crazy Naugus vs Julie su,Antoine

Mammoth Mogul vs Sonic,Knuckles,Vector,Nicole in a Mech

Rotor is providing air support from the Sky

You can include hints of Fiona being a traitor if you want me personally I don't like her as a traitor cause there was no hints, and no not appearing in a few issues dosen't mean she is a traitor.

As always the magic people are watching and waiting for the right moment.

Tails is strapped to some sort of ancient magical pedestal.

After some time the fights stop and everybody is just shocked at the amount of emeralds that appeared.

That's when the magical people step into the fray.

The Ancient Walkers free Tails.

Athair starts batting with Mogul.

The Freedom Fighters and the Chaotix that weren't fighting Mogul finish off their opponents.

They all reunite with Tails.

Merlin comes up and the conversation goes like this.

Merlin:You ready?

Tails:Did you watch get strapped to that thing and be forced to summon all the chaos emeralds?

Merlin:Not Important! <Turns Tails into Turbo Tails>

While Tails is transforming we get an explanation on what Turbo Tails is. Turbo Tail is basically a form that is between the Super Tails and Hyper Tails and is exclusively for Tails because he is the chosen one.

Eventually Mogul finishes off the people he was fighting and tries to run for the tons of emeralds to transform.Turbo Tails just beats him into the ground

After that Tails then forges all the millions of emeralds into a set of 7 using a chaos control.The chaos control release a blast however that hits Mighty,Ray,and a Civilian buried under some rubble.The Civilian is brought back to life from this and then runs away though he is seen as a silver hedgehog.

The Ancient Walkers then come down from wherever they were to thank Tails for creating Harmony among the chaos force and let him know there will still be many trials to face.

This in my opinion fixes the execution because let’s be honest what was so exciting about them shoving some emeralds in a portal.

I think fight is far more entertaining though maybe you liked the original comic and that is completely fine this is just my thought process

The End

I will elaborate some more another time as I am getting tired of writing this long ass post so thanks for reading this far and tell me what you think.