#Atoragon

[namesisfortombstones]

Not gonna lie; I would probably sell the earth out to the Mu Empress from Atragon.

[virovac]

Idea for Manda redesign

Given the theme of “letting go” for Atragon (be it revenge, or supremacy of an empire), and how making Manda female is popular in fandom: why not have Manda wearing a helmet made from the bones of her mate? 

So we have a helmet looking like this:

And underneath would be more like her DAM appearance

In the end, I’d let Manda survive, we see her starting to grow horns a of her own, now that the helmet placed on her by her worshipers no longer obstructs their growth. 

This referencing how some animals can change phenotype/sex, serpents  as a symbol of rebirth; and ties the moral of letting go to both man and monster.

[recoveringkaijufan]

"I was just thinking the other day an Atoragon reboot would be the perfect kind of film to expand the MonsterVerse but also appeal to people who aren’t already invested. Cool battleship could attract some outside attention. Mu could connect with the undersea civilization referenced in KOTM." Technically a remake already exists in the form of an anime film. (If I remember correctly, it had originally been based on a sci fi novel(?) and Manda had only been added to cash in on the kaiju craze).

As far as I know, your recollection is correct in that Manda was a late addition for kaiju value (ala Maguma) and that it was based on a novel. I was aware there was an anime featuring the battleship but I wasn’t sure if it was an adaption of the same material; A quick glance at TV Tropes suggests Mu is excised entirely, but I thought that was the fun part. Still potential for a Hollywood remake.

[namesisfortombstones]

For kaijuly--

Here’s an extensive list of the various titles of theatrical tokusatsu films. It goes: Original Japanese Title --> International Export English Title --> American Release Title GODZILLA --> same --> GODZILLA, KING OF THE MONSTERS! GODZILLA'S COUNTERATTACK --> GODZILLA RAIDS AGAIN --> GIGANTIS, THE FIRE MONSTER (later GODZILLA RAIDS AGAIN for TV) KING KONG VS. GODZILLA --> same --> same MOTHRA VS. GODZILLA --> originally GODZILLA AGAINST MOTHRA then MOTHRA VS. GODZILLA in the early 90s --> GODZILLA VS. THE THING (later GODZILLA VS. MOTHRA for home video) THREE GIANT MONSTERS: THE GREATEST BATTLE ON EARTH --> originally MONSTER OF MONSTERS, GHIDORAH* then GHIDORAH, THE THREE HEADED MONSTER in the late 90s --> GHIDRAH, THE THREE HEADED MONSTER *became MONSTER OF MONSTERS, GHIDORA in the early 90s when Toho was spelling the name without the second 'h' for a brief amount of time MONSTER WARFARE --> INVASION OF ASTRO MONSTER (though the actual print title card features the proper English INVASION OF THE ASTRO-MONSTERS) --> MONSTER ZERO (later GODZILLA VS. MONSTER ZERO for home video) GODZILLA, EBIRAH, MOTHRA: BIG DUEL IN THE SOUTH SEAS --> EBIRAH, HORROR OF THE DEEP --> GODZILLA VS. THE SEA MONSTER MONSTER ISLAND'S DECISIVE BATTLE: SON OF GODZILLA --> SON OF GODZILLA --> same ATTACK OF THE MARCHING MONSTERS --> DESTROY ALL MONSTERS --> same GODZILLA, MINYA, GABARA: ALL MONSTERS ATTACK --> ALL MONSTERS ATTACK --> originally briefly MINYA, SON OF GODZILLA before becoming GODZILLA'S REVENGE GODZILLA VS. HEDORAH --> same --> GODZILLA VS. THE SMOG MONSTER (later GODZILLA VS. HEDORAH for television/DVD) EARTH DESTRUCTION DIRECTIVE: GODZILLA VS. GIGAN --> GODZILLA VS. GIGAN --> GODZILLA ON MONSTER ISLAND (later GODZILLA VS. GIGAN for home video) GODZILLA VS. MEGALON --> same --> same GODZILLA VS. MECHAGODZILLA --> same --> originally briefly GODZILLA VS. THE BIONIC MONSTER before becoming GODZILLA VS. THE COSMIC MONSTER (later GODZILLA VS. MECHAGODZILLA for home video) MECHAGODZILLA'S COUNTERATTACK --> TERROR OF MECHAGODZILLA --> For U.S. television in 1978, TERROR OF MECHAGODZILLA; for U.S. theatrical release in 1979, THE TERROR OF GODZILLA (the TERROR OF MECHAGODZILLA title would later be used for THE TERROR OF GODZILLA prints used for home video) GODZILLA --> THE RETURN OF GODZILLA --> GODZILLA 1985 GODZILLA VS. BIOLLANTE --> same --> same GODZILLA VS. KING GHIDORAH --> same --> same GODZILLA VS. MOTHRA --> same --> GODZILLA AND MOTHRA: THE BATTLE FOR EARTH GODZILLA VS. MECHAGODZILLA --> GODZILLA VS. MECHAGODZILLA II (though would be copyrighted at the Library of Congress as GODZILLA VS. SUPER-MECHAGODZILLA) --> same GODZILLA VS. SPACEGODZILLA --> same --> GODZILLA VS. SPACE GODZILLA GODZILLA VS. DESTROYER --> GODZILLA VS. DESTOROYAH --> same GODZILLA 2000 MILLENNIUM --> same --> GODZILLA 2000 GODZILLA VS. MEGAGUIRUS: G-ERADICATION STRATEGY --> GODZILLA VS. MEGAGUIRUS --> same GODZILLA, MOTHRA, KING GHIDORAH: GIANT MONSTERS ALL-OUT ATTACK --> GODZILLA, MOTHRA, AND KING GHIDORAH: GIANT MONSTERS ALL-OUT ATTACK --> same GODZILLA VS. MECHAGODZILLA --> GODZILLA AGAINST MECHAGODZILLA --> same GODZILLA VS. MOTHRA VS. MECHAGODZILLA: TOKYO S.O.S. --> GODZILLA: TOKYO S.O.S. --> same GODZILLA: FINAL WARS --> same --> same GIANT MONSTER GAMERA --> GAMERA --> GAMMERA, THE INVINCIBLE (later GAMERA for home video) GREAT MONSTER DUEL: GAMERA VS. BARUGON --> GAMERA VS. BARUGON --> WAR OF THE MONSTERS (later GAMERA VS. BARUGON for home video) GIANT MONSTER MID-AIR BATTLE: GAMERA VS. GAOS --> GAMERA VS. GAOS (became GAMERA VS. GYAOS in the mid-90s) --> RETURN OF THE GIANT MONSTERS (later GAMERA VS. GAOS for home video) GAMERA VS. OUTER SPACE MONSTER VIRAS --> GAMERA VS. VIRAS --> DESTROY ALL PLANETS GAMERA VS. GIANT EVIL BEAST GUIRON --> GAMERA VS. GUIRON --> ATTACK OF THE MONSTERS (later GAMERA VS. GUIRON for home video) GAMERA VS. GIANT DEMON BEAST JIGER --> GAMERA VS. JIGER --> GAMERA VS. MONSTER X GAMERA VS. DEEP SEA MONSTER ZIGRA --> GAMERA VS. ZIGRA --> same SPACE MONSTER GAMERA --> SUPER MONSTER --> GAMERA, SUPER MONSTER GAMERA: GIANT MONSTER MID-AIR BATTLE --> GAMERA, GUARDIAN OF THE UNIVERSE --> same GAMERA 2: ADVENT OF LEGION --> G2: GAMERA VS. LEGION (later GAMERA 2: ATTACK OF THE LEGION by Kadokawa) --> GAMERA 2: ATTACK OF THE LEGION GAMERA 3: AWAKENING OF IRYS --> GIII: INCOMPLETE STRUGGLE (later GAMERA 3: REVENGE OF IRYS by Kadokawa) --> GAMERA 3: REVENGE OF IRIS LITTLE BRAVES: GAMERA --> GAMERA THE BRAVE --> same MAJIN --> MAJIN, THE HIDEOUS IDOL (later DAIMAJIN) --> MAJIN, THE MONSTER OF TERROR MAJIN GROWS ANGRY --> THE RETURN OF DAIMAJIN --> THE RETURN OF GIANT MAJIN (later MAJIN STRIKES AGAIN before properly becoming THE RETURN OF DAIMAJIN for home video) MAJIN'S COUNTERATTACK --> THE REVENGE OF DAIMAJIN (later DAIMAJIN STRIKES AGAIN) --> originally THE RETURN OF DAIMAJIN before properly becoming DAIMAJIN STRIKES AGAIN for home video) 100 GHOST STORIES --> 100 MONSTERS --> YOKAI MONSTERS: 100 MONSTERS SPOOK WARFARE --> GHOSTS ON PARADE --> YOKAI MONSTERS: SPOOK WARFARE JOURNEY ALONG WITH TOKAIDO ROAD GHOSTS --> ALONG WITH GHOSTS --> YOKAI MONSTERS: ALONG WITH GHOSTS SPOOK WARFARE --> THE GREAT YOKAI WAR --> same INVISIBLE MAN --> INVISIBLE AVENGER --> none ABOMINABLE SNOWMAN --> MONSTER SNOWMAN --> HALF HUMAN: THE STORY OF THE ABOMINABLE SNOWMAN SPACEMEN APPEAR IN TOKYO --> THE MYSTERIOUS SATELLITE --> WARNING FROM SPACE THE SKY'S GIANT MONSTERS: RODAN --> RODAN --> same EARTH DEFENSE FORCES --> THE MYSTERIANS --> same GIANT MONSTER VARAN --> VARAN --> VARAN, THE UNBELIEVABLE BEAUTY AND THE LIQUID PEOPLE --> THE H-MAN --> same THE BIRTH OF JAPAN --> THE THREE TREASURES --> AGE OF THE GODS SPACE WARFARE --> BATTLE IN OUTER SPACE --> same THE ELECTRONICALLY-TRANSMITTED MAN --> THE SECRET OF THE TELEGIAN --> same WORLD WAR III BREAKS OUT: 41 HOURS OF FEAR --> THE FINAL WAR --> none GAS HUMAN BEING NO. 1 --> THE HUMAN VAPOUR --> THE HUMAN VAPOR HIGH-SPEED SPACESHIP --> originally SPACE GREYHOUND before becoming IRON SHARP recently --> INVASION OF THE NEPTUNE MEN MOTHRA --> same --> same WORLD WARFARE --> THE LAST WAR --> same SUSPICIOUS STAR GORATH --> GORATH --> same WHALE GOD --> THE WHALE GOD --> none MATANGO --> MATANGO, FUNGUS OF TERROR --> ATTACK OF THE MUSHROOM PEOPLE (later MATANGO for home video) THE GREAT THIEF --> SAMURAI PIRATE --> THE LOST WORLD OF SINBAD UNDERSEA BATTLESHIP --> ATORAGON --> ATRAGON GIANT PHANTOM MONSTER AGON --> AGON, THE ATOMIC DRAGON --> none SPACE MONSTER DOGORA --> same --> DAGORA, THE SPACE MONSTER (later DOGORA for home video) FRANKENSTEIN VS. SUBTERRANEAN MONSTER BARAGON --> FRANKENSTEIN VS. BARAGON --> FRANKENSTEIN CONQUERS THE WORLD GREAT DECISIVE BATTLE OF THE GIANT MAGIC DRAGONS --> originally WONDER! before recently becoming GRAND DUEL IN MAGIC --> THE MAGIC SERPENT UNDERSEA WARFARE --> WATER CYBORGS --> TERROR BENEATH THE SEA FRANKENSTEIN'S MONSTERS: SANDA VS. GAILAH --> THE WAR OF THE GARGANTUAS --> same GOLDEN BAT --> THE GOLDEN BAT --> none GIANT SPACE MONSTER GUILALA --> THE X FROM OUTER SPACE --> same COLLOSAL BEAST GAPPA --> GAPPA, THE TRIPHIBIAN MONSTER --> MOMSTER FROM A PREHISTORIC PLANET (later GAPPA, THE TRIPHIBIAN MONSTER for home video) KING KONG'S COUNTERATTACK --> KING KONG ESCAPES --> same LONG STORY MONSTER MOVIE: ULTRAMAN --> ULTRAMAN --> none GREAT MONSTER YONGARY --> same --> YONGARY, MONSTER FROM THE DEEP VAMPIRE GOKEMIDORO --> GOKE, BODY SNATCHER FROM HELL --> BODY SNATCHER FROM HELL (later GOKE, BODY SNATCHER FROM HELL on DVD) BLOODSUCKING SKULL BOAT --> LIVING SKELETON --> same INSECT WARFARE --> GENOCIDE --> same GAMMA NO. 3: BIG SPACE STRATEGY --> THE GREEN SLIME --> THE GREEN SLIME LATITUDE ZERO: GREAT STRATEGY --> LATITUDE ZERO --> same KONTO 55: GREAT SPACE ADVENTURE --> none --> none FEAR OF THE GHOST HOUSE: BLOODSUCKING DOLL --> THE VAMPIRE DOLL --> none GEZORA, GANIME, KAMEBA: GIANT MONSTERS OF THE SOUTH SEAS --> SPACE AMOEBA --> YOG, MONSTER FROM SPACE (later SPACE AMOEBA for home video) CURSED HOUSE: BLOODSUCKING EYES --> LAKE OF DRACULA --> THE LAKE OF DRACULA GREAT FIERCE MONSTER BATTLE: DAIGORO VS. GOLIATH --> DAIGORO VS. GOLIATH --> none CREST OF THE WOLF --> HORROR OF THE WOLF --> none JAPAN SINKS --> THE SUBMERSION OF JAPAN --> TIDAL WAVE HANUMAN VS. 7 ULTRAMEN --> THE 6 ULTRA BROTHERS VS. THE MONSTER ARMY --> SPACE WARRIORS 2000 BLOODSUCKING ROSE --> EVIL OF DRACULA --> same GREAT PROPHECIES OF NOSTRADAMUS --> PROPHECIES OF NOSTRADAMUS (CATASTOPHE 1999) --> THE LAST DAYS OF PLANET EARTH ESPY --> same --> E.S.P./SPY TOKYO BAY BURNS --> CONFLAGRATION --> HIGH-SEAS HIJACK POLAR PROBE SHIP POLAR BORER --> THE LAST DINOSAUR --> same LEGEND OF DINOSAURS AND OMINOUS BIRDS --> LEGEND OF DINOSAURS AND MONSTER BIRDS --> THE LEGEND OF DINOSAURS HOUSE --> same --> same ORANGUTAN KING --> MIGHTY PEKING MAN --> GOLIATHON (later THE MIGHTY PEKING MAN for home video) PLANET WARFARE --> THE WAR IN SPACE --> same MYSTERY OF BERMUDA --> THE BERMUDA DEPTHS --> same MESSAGE FROM SPACE --> same --> same FIREBIRD --> THE PHOENIX --> none BLUE CHRISTMAS --> BLOOD TYPE: BLUE --> none DIRECTED BY AKIO JISSOJI: ULTRAMAN --> none --> none ULTRAMAN: GREAT MONSTER DECISIVE BATTLE --> none --> none RESURRECTION DAY --> VIRUS --> same EARTHQUAKE ARCHIPELEGO --> DEATHQUAKE --> same SAYONARA JUPITER --> BYE BYE JUPITER --> SAYONARA JUPITER ULTRAMAN ZOFFY: THE ULTRA BROTHERS VS. THE MONSTER ARMY --> none --> none ULTRAMAN STORY --> THE ULTRAMAN STORY --> none PULGASARI --> same --> same CAPITAL CITY DISAPPEARS --> TOKYO BLACKOUT --> none BAMBOO CUTTER STORY --> PRINCESS FROM THE MOON --> none GUNHED --> same --> same ULTRA Q THE MOVIE: LEGEND OF THE STARS --> ULTRA Q: THE MOVIE --> none ZEIRAM --> same --> ZERAM YAMATO TAKERU --> OROCHI, THE EIGHT-HEADED DRAGON --> same ZEIRAM 2 --> same --> same ULTRAMAN ZEARTH --> same --> none MOTHRA --> originally MOTHRA, QUEEN OF MONSTERS later REBIRTH OF MOTHRA in the very late 90s --> REBIRTH OF MOTHRA ULTRAMAN ZEARTH 2: GREAT SUPERMAN WAR - LIGHT AND SHADOW --> ULTRAMAN ZEARTH 2 --> none MOTHRA 2: UNDERSEA BATTLE --> REBIRTH OF MOTHRA 2 --> same ULTRAMAN TIGA AND ULTRAMAN DYNA: SHINING STAR WARRIORS --> ULTRAMAN TIGA AND ULTRAMAN DYNA: WARRIORS OF THE STAR OF LIGHT --> ULTRAMAN TIGA & ULTRAMAN DYNA MOTHRA 3: KING GHIDORAH ATTACKS --> briefly MOTHRA 3: INVASION OF KING GHIDORAH before becoming REBIRTH OF MOTHRA 3 --> REBIRTH OF MOTHRA 3 YONGARY (later YONGARY 2001: YONGARY VS. CYKER) --> YONGGARY --> REPTILIAN SAKUYA: GHOST COMMUNICATOR --> SAKURA, SLAYER OF DEMONS --> none ULTRAMAN --> ULTRAMAN THE NEXT --> none SUPER STAR FLEET SAZER X FIGHT! STAR WARRIORS --> SAZER X: THE MOVIE --> none JAPAN SINKS --> THE SINKING OF JAPAN --> DOOMSDAY: THE SINKING OF JAPAN THE WORLD SINKS EXCEPT JAPAN --> same --> none ULTRAMAN MEBIUS AND ULTRA BROTHERS --> ULTRAMAN MEBIUS AND ULTRAMAN BROTHERS --> none GUILALA'S COUNTERATTACK: LAKE TOYA SUMMIT CRISIS --> MONSTER X STRIKES BACK: ATTACK THE G8 SUMMIT! --> MONSTER X STRIKES BACK: ATTACK THE G8 SUMMIT GREAT DECISIVE BATTLE! SUPER 8 ULTRA BROTHERS--> SUPERIOR 8 ULTRA BROTHERS --> none GIANT MONSTER BATTLE: ULTRA GALAXY LEGEND --> MEGA MONSTER BATTLE: ULTRA GALAXY LEGEND - THE MOVIE --> none ULTRAMAN ZERO - THE MOVIE: SUPER BATTLE! BELIAL'S GALAXY EMPIRE --> ULTRAMAN ZERO: THE REVENGE OF BELIAL --> none ULTRAMAN SAGA --> same --> none ULTRAMAN GINGA S: DECISIVE BATTLE! 10 BRAVE ULTRA WARRIORS --> ULTRAMAN GINGA S MOVIE SHOWDOWN! THE 10 ULTRA BROTHERS --> none COME ON, ULTRAMAN X! OUR ULTRAMAN --> ULTRAMAN X: THE MOVIE --> same ULTRAMAN ORB: I'M STOPPING THE POWER BOND --> ULTRAMAN ORB THE MOVIE: I'M BORROWING THE POWER OF YOUR BONDS --> none NEW GODZILLA --> briefly GODZILLA RESURGENCE before becoming SHIN GODZILLA --> same