#BB!Honeyfern

[bonefall]

BB!Honeyfern -> Honeysnake

A girl who's gonna be stealing a little more time in BB.

[ID: The Better Bones version of Honeyfern. She is a spiky, golden, blue-eyed cat with a brown mask and stripes. Her torso, paws, and 'boots' are creamy. She is being bitten by an adder, and prepares to bite back]

Clanmew Name: Mlashiff, Mlasis (Mla = Honey + Shiff = Frond, the leaf of a fern) (Mla = Honey + Sis = Serpent, generic term for snakes)

Alignment: ThunderClan

Relations: Parents - Sorreltail, Brackenfur Siblings - Molepaw, Cinderheart, Poppyfrost Ex-Mate - Berrynose Apprentice - Briarlight

Honeyfern stands tall as the strongest, most ambitious kitten in the Brackenfour litter. Through BB!Po3, she is a rising star in ThunderClan, and Hollypaw's rival. Honeyfern's ferocity was only matched by her compassion; in early BB!OotS, she doesn't hesitate to lay her life on the line to attack an adder in defense of Briarkit.

After fighting for several days against one of the worst injuries Clan cats know of, Honeyfern survives, and is bestowed the Honor Title of Honeysnake before even getting her first apprentice.

(One of the first completely uncontroversial choices that Bramblestar makes!)

But, the painful ordeal causes Honeysnake to realize things about her boyfriend, Berrynose. Traits that had once been endearing were suddenly not so cute. Boldness comes across as selfishness. Protectiveness becomes controlling behavior. His 'sense of humor' means he doesn't take things seriously.

If only it could have been so simple to just leave him. No, she never would have guessed that the week she left Berrynose, he would immediately become interested in her sister. Poppyfrost!! What are you doing?! GIRL

With her uncle Thornclaw as deputy and far too busy for an apprentice anyway, it's obvious who Briarkit's mentor must be. The brave cat who saved her life became her guide and best friend, staying by her side through every hardship until her fateful death during the Battle of the True Eclipse (BOTTE).

LOTS more under the cut!

Honeysnake's personality is firm, responsible, and occasionally overly proud of herself. At the same time, she is driven by kindness more than anything else, and would break her own back to lessen the burden on her clanmates. She takes after her dad, Brackenfur, more than any of her siblings!

Because she massively values her own strength and her helpfulness, she can be goaded into overexerting herself and bossing around other cats. She doesn't mean to be pushy, but her heart is so large that she sometimes fails to realize that she's only made things worse. Big sister energy!

She must learn to balance this; a flaw is often a value in excess.

When she was an apprentice, her personality could really clash with Cinderpaw's.

Cinderpaw is very emotional, to the point of instability. Honeypaw couldn't understand that Cinder had to learn to work it out on her own, and sometimes inserted herself into her problems

This would make them both upset, as it wouldn't work and then Honeypaw would scold Cinderpaw for not taking her unsolicited advice.

In spite of all this, they love each other and got closer when they got older. It's ironic that Honey and Poppy would eventually be the ones fighting-- they NEVER fought as kids!

She fell in love with Berrynose after he developed a crush on her. Honey hadn't really thought much about romance before then, but she fell hard.

Berrynose was bold and exciting. She was always the one chasing after other people, finding ways to help everyone except herself. To BE pursued instead felt flattering, even freeing. He could be REALLY mean, yeah... but that was endearing, for a time. It felt like honesty, and it was refreshing that he would just say the things she would hold back to be polite, or diplomatic.

They were getting serious before the snake, which is now shuffled to happen in the first book of BB!OotS

The energy in ThunderClan had been... off, for a while. Since Hollyleaf had revealed the secret of her parentage and vanished, uncle Thornclaw had replaced Squirrelflight as deputy, and Leafpool was demoted as Cleric.

The couple had been discussing kittens and such, something uplifting so things could start to heal and move on.

In hindsight, they were normal adult discussions. In Honeysnake's reflections, something is ironic about how mature Berrynose had been just before the incident. Like he really was growing up, for a while.

Was he truly getting better? Or was that just a side of him she stopped being able to see in the new light? She'll never know.

The fight with the adder is burned into her mind, in extreme detail.

She remembers being cuddled next to Berrynose from the second level of the camp. She remembers the way her stomach dropped when she realized, from her vantage point, that a branch-shaped object under the wall was slithering. How she screamed for Briarkit to get back and bound across the quarry faster than she'd ever moved before.

The snake bit her first, and then she bit it back.

Venom from an adder burns. It quickly spread up her paw and through her arm, searing her veins like fire. She crumpled into a screaming heap next to her dead foe, sending the entire camp into a panic.

Jayfeather, already overwhelmed through being a new Cleric working alone after Leafpool's demotion, having recently been publicly disowned, and still mourning his sister, had to spring into action

And the very first crack that Honey noticed on her mate was how Berrynose threatened Jayfeather. "You'd better save her, if you don't I'LL kill you!"

Jayf didn't even dignify it with a response. She was glad he didn't. She didn't want Jay doing anything but helping her not have burning blood.

An adder bite is one of the deadliest, most painful, difficult injuries to treat across all four Clans. She required round-the-clock care and was in constant pain, for days, without guarantee she would survive.

And Berrynose was unhelpful, to say the least. Even going so far as to wrinkle his nose when Jay chewed up a mouthful of nettle for Honeyfern's treatments.

What she once found funny and endearing wasn't so cute when he couldn't be serious when she wanted him to be.

Leafpool, ex-Cleric, started stepping in to help Jayfeather in the den... against Bramblestar's demotion. Jay had never treated such a serious injury before, the rest of the Clan didn't stop needing treatment

The Clan was already a bit split on the idea of Leafpool not being a Cleric anymore. She's Leafpool Moonpool. She made mistakes-- but what else are the Queen's Rights even for?

Has she not already been punished? And what about Honeyfern, their clanmate, who needed her help right now?

And Bramblestar would NEVER prevent Leafpool from giving an injured cat from getting the proper treatment they need..........

But, of course, Berrynose was more loyal to his mentor than almost anything else. He had concerns about an unholy, codebreaking ex-Cleric attempting to heal his mate, and what it would mean for Bramble to rescind an earlier command.

Honeyfern, obviously, didn't care if StarClan themselves had come down to say Leafpool Bad. She wanted to not suffer and die.

And after monumental effort on the part of two trained cats, the entire Clan doing their part to support her, and Honeyfern's indomitable will to survive, the burning cooled to embers and the pain subsided.

She survived the bite of an adder, killing the beast in the process. An achievement that was so impressive that ThunderClan concluded she MUST be truly blessed.

Bramblestar is stingy when it comes to Honor Titles, but for this? He could not ignore it. The Clan needed a morale boost. She had survived the insurmountable. Everyone had come together over this situation, in a way that they hadn't in many moons.

So, as soon as she could stand for a ceremony, he decreed before their ancestors that the venom had been an anointment (thornclaw came up with that line). From now on, she would be known as Honeysnake, in honor of her survival.

It's rare that cats who are so young receive such Honor Titles, and it immediately boosted her up in status.

Berrynose was jealous of this. Not in a way where he'd say so openly, but in the way he would downplay her Title, not celebrate her achievements, or use it to deflect in conversations.

The breaking point was when the newest crop of apprentices was assigned, and Bramblestar decided that Honeysnake was absolutely ready for her first apprentice.

(Millie's three kits, despite being a little older than Dove and Ivy, were slightly delayed in their apprenticeship so they could all be apprenticed at once)

Hazeltail and Mousewhisker had proven themselves strong and competent, ready for their first apprentices. Mousewhisker was given Bumblepaw, Hazeltail receives Blossompaw.

To make sure there weren't too many young mentors, Birchfall was given Dovepaw, and Brightheart received Ivypaw.

And, lastly, to commemorate her strength and honor how she'd saved this child, Honeysnake was given Briarpaw.

...leaving Berrynose as the only cat of his litter without an apprentice! While Bramblestar, HIS mentor, was leader!!

But instead of being upset with Bramblestar, he felt Honeysnake had taken what he'd been owed.

Maybe some other time, Honey would have tried to comfort him, and make him feel better about it all

But she was DONE. That was ENOUGH coddling! SHE was the one who had gone through all of that, killed an adder and saved Briarpaw, and now he feels so entitled to an apprentice that he's upset with HIS MATE?

Poppyfrost, meanwhile, had been watching the ceremony of the apprentices with a forlorn gaze... and was about to get sucked in.

Without getting into Poppyfrost too much here, her key traits are Curiosity and Avoidance. Setting boundaries has always been difficult for her, or saying no to people. So when Berrynose turned his sights on her following his breakup with her sister...

Poppyfrost felt good. She felt desirable, for the first time since she'd given birth to Jayfeather's secret children. She hadn't shared with anyone how low she'd felt for the past 6 months, and it suddenly felt like there was a light in her life.

From Honeysnake's perspective, though, Berrynose found a whole new way to get into her life through Poppyfrost. Poppy started taking his side, or at the very least, not supporting her sister. Honey couldn't get away from Berry without avoiding Poppy, too. So the fights continued.

But, the most important thing in Honey's life quickly became her apprentice.

Briarpaw was attentive and enthusiastic, a bright little ball of light and hope. Honeysnake had a lot to teach her and she listened eagerly

But Honeysnake couldn't save her when the tree came crashing down.

Briarpaw lost control of her back legs, and it was immediately, widely accepted she would not be able to become a warrior.

As Jayfeather spoke with Littlecloud about how to treat her and give her a good quality of life, picking up the "notes" for Wildfur's old mobility device, Millie started becoming very controlling of her daughter.

At first, Honeysnake tried to give the family space... she didn't know what to do, if it was right to get involved or not.

After all, Millie is Briarpaw's mother. She just wants what's best for her, and Honeysnake wasn't sure how much Briarpaw could do now either. She loves her apprentice, so she didn't want to hurt her, or ruin her family by accident.

But then she started to realize how miserable Briarpaw was becoming. She was always such a joyful kid, so excited to get out there and try everything. A radiant little fireball, eager to fight for her Clan.

Now, she was silent, just letting her mother speak for her, only ever piping up to comfort her own parent.

Her quietness wasn't coming from her injury-- it was coming from how Millie was making her feel like her life was over. Like it would have been better if she died, since it was hurting her mom so much to "see her like this."

One day something hit Honeysnake, like a revelation. "I never stopped being her mentor. It's STILL my job to be there for her!!"

She couldn't completely stop Millie from making Briarlight feel awful. She couldn't prevent Blossompaw from misplacing her anger on her sister. She couldn't make Graystripe do his job as a dad to help his kids.

But Honey could be there for Briarpaw. She could be a safe place to talk, a friend and a mentor, and just get her away from Millie for a few hours a day.

And she was even wise enough now to realize that arguing with Millie directly would only make things worse for the young cat. Everything was for Briarpaw, what SHE needed. How to help her.

Together with Jayfeather, they'd even planned out how to schedule things so that Briarpaw could speak for herself without Millie interjecting.

For Briarpaw, it meant everything. There were people in her corner.

Though she couldn't pass an assessment in the usual way, Bramblestar still allowed Briarlight to get her full name. After all, she, like her mentor, had survived the unthinkable.

Honeysnake had never been so proud of anything in her whole life.

And at the end, just before the Battle of the True Eclipse when the Dark Forest was going to attack, they had a final conversation. Watching the moon inch closer to the sun, and knowing it may be the last time they ever spoke.

Briarlight said something she'd been holding back for a long time. "I'm sorry I couldn't be the apprentice you deserved..."

It made Honeysnake's belly lurch. After all they'd been through, to hear she was still holding onto a piece of what Millie made her believe was painful. "What...? I didn't save you to make a warrior. I did it because you have a life to live. Brili, I'm your mentor. I'm supposed to deserve you."

It turned out to be exactly what they suspected, the last words they'd ever speak to each other. Honeysnake fought ferociously for the Clans in the BOTTE, reunited with her old rival Hollyleaf and putting her quarrels aside. She meets her fate halfway through the night, in the bloody Second Wave.

Her death fills ThunderClan with sorrow. She's deeply mourned by everyone; her mother, sisters, friends, nespring, Clanmates. But most of all, Briarlight holds her memory close to fill her with strength in the coming years.

Honeysnake's spirit is invoked for fulfilling one's full potential, and making hard, painful choices to reach it. As the generations go on, she's associated with the shed skin of snakes and beetles, and the 'necessity' of putting oneself in danger to help others.

OTHER TRIVIA

SPIKY. I decided to give her Brackenfur's colors with Sorreltail's texture. She's the most intensely-colored of her siblings, BRIGHT golden, hence the name.

She's also got Sorreltail's torso marking going on, and her fuzzy 'dividers.' She got the boots from Brackenfur though.

In BB, she has Sweetness Tolerance! Ironically enough, she is able to taste and enjoy honey... and boy does she like her sauces.

Her favorite food is honey-glazed bacon, meat strips cut from the belly of a boar. A rare treat but a delicious one. She likes to eat the whole thing like a noodle, chewing it upwards and not using her paws at all.

As a kit, Brackenfur used to tell her to mind her manners. She had a bad habit of eating things without using her paws, because she likes sauce but not getting it on her beans.

She had her eyes on deputyship from a young age. She wanted to be just like her dad.

Losing him was rough. It was even harder when Bramblestar took power just a few months later, she felt like she should have been seeing her dad making the announcements...

But, she stayed strong, especially for her siblings who seemed to be taking it even worse.

Canon doesn't mention what sort of snake bit her, but BB takes place in northern England and the only venomous snakes there are ADDERS babey!!

I drew a girl adder on purpose because something felt very funny about this. here I go pitting two bad bitches against each other. diversity win! The wild animal that tries to eat a baby is a girl!

ADDERFACT: A female Vipera Berus is brown, a male is black and white, but their color can vary immensely.

Bramblestar is a terrible namer. Honeysnake, Mlasis, is a fine name, but he chose the generic term for all serpents (sis) instead of an adder specifically (sipya). In his head it sounded more honorable.

But! It's not the worst!

"Honeyfern" was given by Firestar, and intended to be a nod to her rivalry with Hollyleaf! Hollyleaf's suffix referred to the leaves of most trees, and Honeyfern's to the leaves of ferns.

Both them were named after Brackenfur, who they both looked up to. Brackens are a type of fern, and Firestar wanted to invoke a plant for the names of both cats.

Because Honeyfern was named first and also Brackenfur's child, she got the word for fern leaves.

Of course *Holly*leaf was already named after a plant... but no one ever said Firestar was a FANTASTIC namer either, after all, he's the genius behind "Brambleclaw."

Honeysnake's relationship with Poppyfrost was stable at the time of her death, with her two young nespring having been born... but if it was ever going to "improve," who knows.

but they were cordial. At the very least. She would have been involved in the lives of Mole and Cherry.

Unfortunately there's always a lot left unsaid when someone dies so young. She had a whole life in front of her, cut short because of Tigerclaw's ambition.

[rewritedesigns]

Frostfur

Frostfur at the start of the series -> Frostfur a bit before she dies

A dominant white molly. (ll, RR, ReRe, lplp, whwh, LyLy|Xoxo, BB, dd, dmdm, Aa, Mcmc, spsp, tata, bmbm, ii, wbwb, EE, ShSh, CC, kk, WdWs|acac, sfsf, JbJb, mm, RtRt, mkmk, pdpd)

(More under the cut)

BIO

Name:

Frostfur

Clanmew Name:

Chikifaf

Frost (Chiki) + Fur (Faf)

Previous Name:

Frostkit, Frostpaw

Family:

Daughter of Stonepelt and Weedwhisker. Mate of Lionheart. Mother of Cinderpelt, Brackenfur, Brightheart and Thornclaw. Grandmother of Whitewing, Cinderheart, Honeyfern, Moleflight and Poppyfrost.

Rank:

Kitchen Head

Notes:

A bit of a murderous sweetheart

In the beginning of Into The Wilderness she is nursing Cinderkit and Brackenkit while expecting Brightkit and Thornkit

Hehehhe she has a beard

Btw she gains these scars throughout the series

Her mentor was Star Bluefrost

[mallowstep]

I'm writing a small AU where Honeyfern lives and ends up having kits with Berrynose, so I'd love to know what their hypokits would look like

yeah! honey/berry my beloved.

okay so:

honeyfern is a light brown tabby. lot of options here for how to interpret that, but i'm going to go with chocolate spotted tabby, because -- berrynose is going to be dilute so i'd rather she not be dilute. i'm gonna make her golden too for fun and because i think it works. honey and all. anyway, with that in mind, let's make her

bb1/Dd/ii/Wbwb/Aa/tata/Spsp/tmtb/Ll/Wsws/oo/CC

(oh yeah she inherits white from sorreltail bc sorreltail seems to be very white.)

as for berrynose, is father is "grey and white," so i'll say...

Bb1/dd/ii/wbwb/aa/Tata/Spsp/tmtb/ll/wsws/O/CC

ig he doesn't have to be long-haired but it doesn't affect the hypokits so.

as always, one from each row/kit:

Bb, Bb1 (black); bb1 (chocolate); b1b1 (cinnamon)

Dd (not dilute); dd (dilute)

ii (not silver)

Wbwb (wide bands); wbwb (no wide bands)

Aa (tabby); aa (solid)

Tata (ticked); tata (not ticked)

Spsp (spotted); spsp (not spotted)

tmtm, tmtb (mackerel); tbtb (classic)

Ll (short hair); ll (long hair)

Wsws (<50% white); wsws (no white)

Oo (she-cat, tortie); o (tom, black)

CC (not albino)

and four examples...

k1: blue and white golden mackerel tabby tom with long fur (Bb1/dd/ii/Wbwb/Aa/tata/spsp/tmtm/ll/Wsws/o/CC)

k2: brown and red tortoiseshell mackerel tabby she-cat with long fur (bb1/Dd/ii/wbwb/Aa/tata/spsp/tmtb/ll/wsws/Oo/CC)

k3: lilac and cream tortoiseshell she-cat (bb1/dd/ii/wbwb/aa/Tata/spsp/tmtb/Ll/wsws/Oo/CC)

k4: black spotted tabby tom with long fur (Bb1/Dd/ii/wbwb/Aa/tata/SpSp/tmtm/ll/wsws/o/CC)

and for best color refs:

k1: blue mackerel tabby bicolour (golden refs are not available)

k2: chocolate torbie

k3: lilac tortie

k4: black spotted tabby

[crow-meander]

A whole lot of OC’s (All belongs to other people, not me) I drew for Art Fight!

Links to the OC’s and their creators:

https://artfight.net/character/715053.tuurmerz https://artfight.net/character/1013216.everest https://artfight.net/character/869881.honeyfern-spotty-bb https://artfight.net/character/864855.ryder https://artfight.net/character/1017534.najiht-species https://artfight.net/character/1002312.august

If anyone happens to feel like attacking me, here’s a like to my profile: https://artfight.net/~CrowTheCrow

[need1etail]

Hollyleaf x Honeyfern?

A bb. They were born with a twisted (tbh i didn't draw it as twisted as it should've been but I think I did well)

[warriors-official-art]

Title: Sunrise

Arc: Power of Three

Type: illustration

Country: Russia

Artist: Leonid Nasyrov

Characters: Briarkit / Briarlight, Honeyfern, snake

Source: https://warriors-cats.fandom.com/ru/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%8B-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8_%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8

[genwc]

Sorreltail x Brackenfur kits

Poppyfrost- black tortoiseshell and white molly

XOXo Bb Dd aa Tt McMc Spsp ii wbwb+ Ccb Wsws

Honeyfern- black golden spotted tabby molly

XoXo Bb1 Dd Aa tt Mcmc Spsp ii wbwb+ CC wsws

Cinderheart- blue spotted tabby molly

XoXo Bb dd Aa tt Mcmc Spsp ii Wwb+ CC wsws

Molepaw- black tom with minimal white

XoY Bb Dd aa Tt Mcmc spsp ii wbwb+ CC Wsws

Seedpaw- black golden ticked tortoiseshell tabby molly

XOXo Bb1 Dd Aa Tt mcmc Spsp ii wb+wb+ Ccb wsws

Lilyheart- blue mackerel tabby molly and white

XoXo Bb1 Dd Aa tt Mcmc spsp ii Wwb+ CC Wsws

[bonefall]

are there any background characters in original warrior cats that you gave a bigger role in bb just because you find them really interesting

A whole lot honestly! I really like tons of little background characters, and generally want the Clans to feel more like communities. To do that, a lot more cats need to have personalities and dynamics with each other.

Plus, since I use Missing Kits to pad out smaller Clans, I have to make personalities for them from scratch. So going from 0 to 10 is a bigger role by definition.

But in terms of characters who were already substantial and getting expansions, here's a few

Nightcloud and her entire family; she's now taking Crowfeather's SE from him.

Sedgecreek and her divorce and deputyship

Sorreltail my Beloved

Hallowflight and his marathon

Honeyfern and her honor title; Honeysnake

[bonefall]

Since she was mentioned briefly in the previous post- can Fernstripe and Sunbeam have at least a single conversation together? Something like “hey, what were your trials like and what should I expect?” It doesn’t have to give anything away by having her go “my trials were done under Bramblestar, not Squirrelstar, I can’t promise our trials will be remotely similar”. Though I just want Sunbeam to have friends outside of her in-laws and it’d be cool to see Fernstripe do something outside of “oh yeah she exists” without her actually appearing.

Fernstripe and Shellfur got blorboified. They're one of my favorite background character ships entirely because of BB additions, lmao

They bonded over Shellfur asking her for "niceness lessons," because Spotfur wasn't going to have her husband's bully of a brother know his nespring if he didn't figure his shit out.

I used them for framing what a Gathering and Aftergathering look like at the Lake

Fernstripe can't cook for shit

I am once again, much like a firm guardian telling the kiddies to not get too attached to all of the foster kittens we're sponsoring, saying that I can't say how exactly I'll be using Fernstripe in ASC quite yet. But I CAN promise you for sure that she is going to have waaaaay more of a role.

Both as a fresh migrant to ThunderClan just like Sunny-B, and also as a member of the Graykin family through her mateship to Shellfur. The Graykin family gets a lot more focus in BB because I can't be normal about them.

Assorted thoughts;

I want Sunny to have a bit of a concern, through Fernstripe. See, SHE belongs because she's mates with Shellfur. But what would that mean for Sunny if Nightheart never comes back?

Fernstripe should be someone that Sunbeam gets to know very well, if I do end up going to her having more agency over "constructing" teams of cats for her trials.

And she explicitly should realize, "Fernstripe is my friend which makes me want to pick her; but she's intelligent, not powerful. I can't put her on any tasks that involve that."

"............or anything food-related. of course. good lord"

Someone will mention that Fernstripe was grandfather-claused under any revision that bumped up the 1 task to 3. Most of ThunderClan is pretty openly rolling their eyes about even the 1 task, so they're definitely not going to make Fern do 2 more.

It's funny that there are now 3 cats with Fern prefixes in ThunderClan lmao.

And there's been even more ferns, historically

Brackenfur was named after a type of fern. His daughter, Honeyfern, was named after him before earning that Honor Title

Ferncloud just died, Spotfur named a kit after her (not graystripe), there's also Fernsong, and now Fernstripe. In Clanmew these are all different types of fern, but they're still ferns.

It should be a running joke in other Clans that they use "fern" as the prefix for random hypothetical warriors.

Kinda like how if you're talking about Americans you'll be like, "John Hamburger visits 200 diners a minute and consumes half of the world's oil," or if you're talking about Brits you're like "Kingsley Bigglesworth is repelled by spice like a vampire to the sun, must have an IV drip of blended beans-on-toast to survive."

"Fernface hears a cat sneeze across the lake, arrives with 15 clerics and a bowl of fruit juice they call "soup", cries when you don't say thank you more than twice."

Fernstripe must have been mortified when she realized that her parents named her Fern and then she ended up joining ThunderClan, lmao

[bonefall]

what are your favorite relationships in BB? doesn’t have to be romantic, could be friends, family, mentor-apprentice, etc.

I have a big soft spot for the mentorships. They're so neglected in canon that I really get to decide whatever I want it to be, and when I shuffle apprentices I'm always trying to do matchups that are particularly interesting.

But there's also romantic and familial bonds that do it for me. Scattershot;

Honeysnake and Briarlight They've grown on me super quickly. Honeyfern's Honor Title for surviving the adder bite, the drama she gets in when her sister starts dating her ex, becoming the mentor of the kitten she saved, their final interaction before the Great Battle. I think it's a powerful thing.

Brokenstar and Runningnose sir this is my emotional support evil ambiguously gay couple. "Soooo Brokenstar what's your situation with Runningnose?" "planning the demise of windclan" "yes but are you an item" "perhaps, long ago, but now i have come to learn i am a force of great revenge" "do you kiss" "i bite"

Fallenleaf and Cinderheart Something about Cinderheart trying to have a life without her, and finding the color drained from it. Fallenleaf spending another lifetime enacting horrible tyranny, but unable to communicate the horror of her reign. Someone who is loyal and devoted to you, when you feel like you don't deserve it. A fresh god and her first priestess.

HareHeatherBreeze Ex-villain going through a housewife arc and his ambitious husband and wife

Pinestar and Speckletail, Mudfur and Leopardstar, Tallstar and Flytail, Cloudtail/Ferncloud and Ashfur This dynamic is cool ranch doritoes to me, I can't stop. "Little person I was trusted with raising, kitten I loved, where have you gone? How could I have helped you? I did my best and it was still the wrong thing!" It's versatile, too. Pine perfectly mentored Speckle, but his mind is changing on that being a good thing. Mudfur realizes he should have left Leopard and Carp with their mother in that kittypet home. Tallstar created his greatest rival for deputyship. Cloud and Fern wonder if there was a sign they ignored. Love it love it love it

Dustpelt and his kids Dad who makes you hold the flashlight as he looks under the car energy.

Hawkfrost and Ivypool "I was recruited by a demon who was meant to be my mentor, but slowly I'm realizing that I'm growing older and he looks younger and younger. He's practically a child and he's being used by his father just as much as me by mine. Oh god, we're fools being lead around by fools"

Frostfur and Everyone Be it her and her mentor Bluestar, or how she can connect with Dustpelt when he makes mistakes, or how she comforts her daughter when she's attacked by dogs, I just really appreciate her.

Cinderpelt and Littlecloud BESTIES in two different Clans, their friendship is just so much fun. "Why is Littlecloud here" "He's checking my leech setup" "Why is Cinderpelt here" "She's checking my leech setup :)"

Swansong and Mistystar They didn't take all of her siblings from her, because they refused to acknowledge he's her brother. That was a mistake; she's got the most loyal sibling a person could ever ask for, he'll fight and die by her side if she gives the word. A good brother helps you hide the body <3

[bonefall]

do you have anything extra planned for Sorreltail? I’m rereading TNP and I like the chapters with her and Leafpaw the most.. they’re so cute. Also lmao @ Leafpaw calling Mothwing beautiful in every chapter

[ID: BB!Sorreltail. She's a big, spiky, fluffy white cat with chocolate brown accents and peanut-butter cream patches. Her eyes are bright yellow.]

just a little, a smidge really. I'm very normal about BB!Sorreltail.

Sorreltail is head of the Kitchen Patrol, she developed a love of it because no one would cook her grasshoppers.

Grasshoppers are her FAVORITE food, she loves chasing them, she loves their crunch, loves their funny long rabbit legs.

Not forgetting her lifelong friendship with Squilf and Leafpool, ABSOLUTELY not. Gal Pals <3

She gets along with most cats, unless they try to eat raw meat in camp, in which case she pummels a lecture about tapeworms into their head.

Sorreltail has epilepsy from her childhood nightshade poisoning! It gave her neurological damage; it expresses as absence seizures.

An absence seizure isn't convulsive like the 'classic' clonic-tonic; she suddenly 'spaces out', eyes rolling up, losing control of her body for a brief period of time. Usually about 5 seconds.

She is not conscious during a seizure, and it will interrupt her train of thought in the moment. She's able to go right back to whatever she was doing, but needs to be reminded of what she was talking about if she was mid-sentence.

She often has multiple, brief seizures in a day.

Some days are rough and she can have several dozen. Other days see none at all.

She had a seizure on the Thunderpath and was grazed by a car. Her assessment was delayed as a result.

Rainwhisker and Sootfur went ahead and got their names without her "LIKE A BUNCH OF JERKS"

Her treatment plan is valerian supplements; she likes this treatment because it helps prevent her from getting drowsy.

Valerian acts like catmint, making her giddy and more hyper. She really appreciates the stimulant because she's an active, outgoing gal.

She looks a LOT like her papa Whitestorm, her siblings look more like Willowpelt. (Graystripe, Darkstripe, Cricketclaw, and Featherkit are Dappletail's kids now; they have no relation to Willowpelt.)

The spiky fur and face mask are actually passed down from Thistleclaw himself, the wolf-tail is a Bluestar family trait from Snowfur.

The coloring was initially based on a grasshopper but then I realized it also kinda looks like ice cream.

ThunderClan cats tend to be large and fluffy, Sorreltail is a good example of it.

She's going to live a LOT longer, in fact, she's alive up to the current arc! However, she sadly lost her mate Brackenfur in Po3. She misses him every day. They had four kittens in one litter; Cinderheart, Honeyfern, Poppyfrost, and Molepaw.

Because Sorreltail is staying alive, Sorrelstripe is named Duststripe after Dustpelt instead. Lilypaw and Seedpaw are his and Ferncloud's. Ferncloud is also surviving.

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just saw you mention cinderheart—i’m sure you’ve touched on her already but can you talk abt her differences from canon, cinderpelt connections if any, mates, etc? thanks! <3

[ID: Cinderheart from the Better Bones AU. She is a gray tabby with light cream boots and mane, and stripes that end in a big spot. Her eyes are dark blue and she has a gray 'mask.']

my SWEETY PIE. VEEEERY different from canon, her arc is totally gutted and replaced! Instead of having a reincarnation plotline that goes nowhere, Cinderheart has BPD. Since Po3 is now episodic and slice-of-life focused, she gets several episodes exploring her emotions and is always a major supporting character with Hollyleaf.

I have touched on her before over here if you want even more BB!Cinderheart goodness. The plan is for her to go from an apprentice who has destructive impulses to the loyal traveling companion of the young god, Fallenleaf (Hollyleaf with Sol kept trapped inside her).

I REALLY like the idea that her eyes are super dark so I leaned into it.

The mask actually comes from her mom Sorreltail. She looks a lot like her if you compare them.

Reincarnation plotline is gone. Cinderpelt is the aunt who died saving her; it was thought she was Cinderpelt visiting as a fading kit, but then she stayed.

Her siblings are Poppyfrost, Honeyfern, and Molepaw. Molepaw dies of color cough and Poppypaw nearly dies of it too, but Jayfeather fetches her back from StarClan.

Molepaw becomes a StarClan warrior named Molefall and is a sort of guardian-angel type. Jayfeather punches him.

Something that's neglected a lot in BPD portrayals is how it's a mood instability disorder and not JUST a relationship one, so it's something I want to stress and explore.

She has a lot of worries and fears that everything will go wrong, so she often tries to 'pre-empt' rejection by blowing up first.

She raised her sister Poppyfrost's kittens, Ivypool and Dovewing, with Lionblaze. Trying to tell her mutual crush that she was suddenly "having kits with Lionblaze" didn't go over well

Raising Dovewing and Ivypool also didn't go over well. Lionblaze kept shoving them into danger for a reason he was not telling Cinderheart, causing Cinderheart to try her hardest to protect her kids, and... it was not a peaceful home environment.

Later, she has a second litter with Fallenleaf. Snaptooth, Flywhisker, Hollylark.

After Hollylark's horrible and preventable death, plus feeling used like a tool when she's supposed to be a god during The Kin and Sisters ordeals, Fallenleaf decides she must go and hone her powers. Cinder goes with her; she will go wherever she is.

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Ooh what’s Honeyfern/snake’s personality like in your rewrite?

Y'know Blossom, from Powerpuff Girls? Quickest way to describe it

Responsible, commanding, can be a little bit of a know-it-all. Honeysnake would have made a fantastic deputy someday! Her biggest flaw is her ego, if you imply she can't do something, she will feel like she needs to prove you wrong to her own detriment.

But she's not intentionally condescending. She has a really big heart and always wants to help out, and that can make her a bit intimidating. She's the "oldest sibling" of her litter and it shows, huuuge biggest sister energy.

When they were little, she got in a TON of fights with Cinderheart in particular. Their sisterhood is going to be one of the focuses of the BPD arc Cinder is getting in BB!Po3.

But anyway, Honey takes the most from her dad than any of her siblings. She's a lot like Brackenfur! And to clarify, her name before surviving the bite is Honeyfern, her name after is Honeysnake. It's an Honor Title.

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i think it’d be cool if mole and cherry were honeyferns, but she dies in the battle when they are really young, so poppyfrost has to raise them. parallels with cinder and dove/ivy anyone?

I'll have a more committed answer to this when I better establish the timeline of OotS... it's going to depend heavily on when, exactly, the adder bite falls.

BB!OotS is a story about the Dark Forest trainees, exploring why each one finds themself drawn there, how Hawkfrost threads this alliance together, how the plan is driving the politics of the living Clans, and how prophetic pressure from their father Lionblaze is driving a wedge between Dovepaw and Ivypaw.

And in canon, Honeyfern dies in Sunrise... the events of which are getting shuffled in BB, over to Cruel Season (an in-between book.)

But that's too early for BB I think. Cruel Season is about the fire, Ashfur's attempted murder, Firestar's assassination, the secret reveal, the conception of Ivy and Dove, and how they lose Hollyleaf. If saving Briarkit from the adder got squeezed in there, it would get buried.

Sooo maybe I'll kill two birds with one stone, push up Honey's snake to the first book of BB!OotS, and make the Graykin litter closer in age to Ivy and Dove... but if that's the case, that means she's going to break up with Berry around book 2 or 3, which would mean the Honey kit would be at least teenage/apprenticed by BOTTE. That would still be a fine age to have that plot, though.

And would it be both Cherry and Mole? Or would I split the litter, one for Honey and one for Poppy... If I did that I would want Cherry to be the older one, since she is going to meet Stormcloud a couple months after the Great Battle.

Still considering...

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If Honeyfern survives, what's an alternate reason that Poppyfrost would go up to the moonpool and be attacked by Breezepelt?

I have plenty of options here for that, honestly, the Moonpool thing is the least of my concerns

BB!Poppyfrost's defining trait is curiosity. She wants to know everything. She's always thinking of new questions, running little experiments ("if seed watered 1 time per day vs never watered, which grows faster?"), and looking for answers. This is paired with her other trait-- that she avoids conflict.

So going to the Moonpool is perfectly within character, even if the situation is changed. She could just want to check her karma, even, she did give birth to Jayfeather's kits a few months ago but gave them to Cinderheart and Lionblaze.

And, heck, why are only Clerics allowed to go to the Moonpool regularly? BB!Poppyfrost is just Like That. She wants to know what happens.

And she doesn't have to be visiting Honeyfern. Dad Brackenfur died at the end of Po3. @halogenwarrior suggested that Grandma Frostfur could have died in the Jayfeather-Fights-God Greencough Outbreak just before Cruel Season. Molepaw/flight has been Jayfeather's hostile angel for this arc. That's three family members she could be trying to contact.

But really the thing that's up in the air is Cherryfall and Molewhisker, her kittens with Berrynose. But I mean... there's an age inconsistency with them anyway. Maybe it's better I make them be born later?

Or maybe even split the litter, one born now and the other born later.

Unsure.

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talk abt poppyfrost! i love how you made her and jay the mirror opposites (? i think thats how the expression went) of leaf and crow

[ID: BB!Poppyfrost, a primarily gray cat with a white head and belly, pale yellow spots, and tabby legs and ears]

To sum BB!Poppyfrost up in two words; Curious and Meek. She has a burning need to know everything and a thirst for knowledge that can't be slaked. She's ALWAYS trying to figure things out-- puzzles, experiments, storyseeking. And, yet, Poppy hates upsetting or disappointing anyone, and is chronically avoidant of her social problems.

It's why she loved Jayfeather, and it's why she couldn't raise their kits alone. Ivy and Dove were raised by Lion and Cinder, instead, and Poppy moved on with Berrynose.

Poppyfrost likes it most of all when she gets to tend to her garden, working on problems that can be easily solved. Catmint doesn't make you question life and death.

Cinderheart and Poppyfrost have both struggled with death at a young age. Cinderheart was a suspected fading kit, thought to be her aunt who died saving them. Poppyfrost was supposed to die of greencough and walked back from death. Their father was killed before becoming leader, Molepaw was killed by the same thing they survived, Honeyfern was suddenly bitten by a snake…

The losses they've had have been sudden and terrifying; and yet, they remain, long after they expected to be gone.

She doesn't seem to have a very clear design in-canon (probably because canon has a bad habit of neglecting its female characters) and everyone draws her in a totally different way, so I decided to just go nuts with this one and try to make her look unique above all else.

I really love the designs that lean on the "Frost" part and make her primarily white, so I decided to tap into her Bluestar Blood and make her a cool slate-gray. The spots are all courtesy of Great-Grandma Speckletail.

AND, IN A BOLT OF INSPIRATION, IF YOU WILL, I have decided that her eye color changed when Jaypaw un-fetched her. Recognize those red eyes? Her grandson caught it.