#Cult of Scientology Projects

[msclaritea]

Oh great. Another Scientology-linked project. Yippers.

[haru-dipthong]

Fansub Release + Analysis of Utena Ep 14

This is a big one!!

My fansub release posts aren't usually like this, but this episode is so jam packed with stuff I want to talk about that I had to write my translation notes as a series of essays. It's longer than usual so strap in!

First, a word on “The Mikage Seminar”

I’ve always found the translation “the Mikage Seminar” very strange. In English, a seminar is an event — a lecture. Yet “the Mikage Seminar” is discussed as though it’s not a recurring lecture, but a society or a school of therapy, or a cult (like scientology). In fact I did a bit of reading about scientology to try and find an alternative translation, and discovered that the origins of scientology, namely a set of ideas and practices called Dianetics, bears a lot of similarities to “the Mikage Seminar”. Both involve a type of therapy where one person looks into their mind and talks to an “auditor”.

The auditor coaxes the preclear to recall as much as possible. — Wikipedia

This in particular stood out to me! Mikage often says 「深く。もっと深く」 during his interviews (”Deeper. Dig deeper.”).

The Japanese word ゼミナール doesn’t actually come from the English “seminar” but the German “Seminar” (capitalised). According to Wikipedia, in Germany, and often in Japan, Seminar/ゼミナール is used to refer to a university course that includes a thesis project. So ゼミナール refers to a course of learning, rather than a talk or lecture. And it would make a lot of sense to call a system like Dianetics a “course”. Almost like a “course” of medicine — a “course” of psychological practices that you can join but never complete.

So it would make sense to translate it as “the Mikage Course”. But “course” has more meanings in English than just this, and in the context of a university this makes it sound more like a mundane teaching course. So I tried some other words: the Mikage Sessions, the Mikage Method, Mikage Psychotherapy, Mikage Therapy, the Mikage Movement. None seemed quite right. Until I remembered this post. ゼミナール is a foreign word in Japanese, why not find a foreign word for the translation? And so I settled on this:

The Mikage Seminarium, AKA The Society of the Black Rose…

Seminarium is Latin, and is where both the German and English derive seminar from. Its original meaning is “seed plot”, but it’s also just the Polish word for seminar. I really like how the Latin makes its meaning ambiguous — it kind of sounds like a location, kind of sounds like a society, and kind of sounds like a learning course. Because it is all of these things.

Anthy: では、香苗さん。失礼します。 Kanae: ね、あたしの事、お姉さんって呼んでいいのよ。もうすぐわたしはあなたの本当のお姉さんになるんだから。

A more literal translation:

Anthy: Thank you for having us, Kanae-san. Kanae: Please… you can just call me “sister”. I’m going to be your real sister soon enough anyway.

The translation I ended up going with:

Anthy: Thank you for having us, Miss Ohtori. Kanae: Please... you can just call me Kanae. We're going to be family soon. There's no need for the formalities.

Japanese honorifics strike again!

In English, sisters-in-law don’t ask to be called “sister”. That would be super weird in most scenarios, and this scene is trying to evoke a particular familiar feeling of closing a distance gap in a relationship. The audience is meant to relate. Changing how Anthy addresses Kanae was pivotal to this scene working properly.

わかりました。あなたは世界を革命するしかないでしょ。

I understand. Your only choice is to force the world to change around you.

This line is translated as “Your only choice is to revolutionise the world” by basically every other translation. The reason is clear — the Japanese is the same as when Utena pulls the sword out of Anthy, or when any of the other characters talk about “revolutionising the world”. However, in this context, I don’t like it. The nuance of the English phrase is quite different to the Japanese phrase. In English, it’s often used to describe new commercial products: “This new device will revolutionise the world!” It comes with an implied “for the better”, but has used to describe technological developments so unexciting that it can also feel hollow. When the student council talk of revolutionising the world, they sound like revolutionaries — the context makes it work. But in this context, it comes out of nowhere and doesn’t have any of that fervour, which makes it sound hollow and flaccid when it should sound sinister and manipulative.

I think a pervading throughline for all the Black Rose duelists is that they see their problems as caused by other people, with themselves being blameless. Rather than change how they approach their situation, Mikage tells them they’re in the right.

Your behaviour will set you down a path. If that path leads to your goals, well done! However, if your path does not lead to your goals, there’s only two ways you can achieve them.

The first is to change your behaviour so that it does align with your goals. The second, impossible way, is for the rest of the world to change such that your current path DOES end up leading to your goals. This second way is not possible in the real world. But it is possible in Utena.

Also I’ll just leave this here: “around you” → “revolve” → “revolution” 👀

Kanae tried to build a relationship with Anthy in a passive, non-confrontational, extremely Japanese way — the way she has been taught to behave, the “proper” way, a mechanical following of the social scripts. We don’t see a lot of their relationship, but the way she behaved and spoke of behaving towards Anthy is very very similar to the way my Japanese grandmother has behaved towards my and my brother’s partners.

It was unthinkable to her to change this pattern of behaviour. Her only choice was to change Anthy, change the rest of the world, so that her behaviour would lead to the outcomes she wants. You could describe this forceful bending of reality to be “revolutionising the world”.

この黒薔薇のある限り、私はこれから嘘の私を演じなくて住む。

As long as I have this Black Rose, I'm free from the lie I was living before.

Besides gender, growing up, and resisting change (which exist as separate themes but also all intertwine as one), another major theme present in Utena is the self and subjective reality. The self is explored within those first major three themes, but also in terms of how the self dictates reality with the Black Rose duellists.

Black Rose Kanae says that her past self was a lie.

It reminds me of all the times when I’ve been going through a personal trial and I’ve looked back on my past self and thought “How naive I was. I understand things better now.” And then after a while I realise I was wrong, and my first self was more right. And then later still, maybe I re-realise that the second self was more right! And so on! The reality of truth (or to use Kanae’s language, “lies”) is so subjective.

Who dictates knowledge production? Who decides what is true; what is valid knowledge? This is a question of sociology - and at the moment that answer is "science does, kinda". But science and academic systems are supported by capitalist structures and tainted by capitalistic incentives — needing to be published in a journal, issues of replicability, the barrier to entry into academia in the first place, etc, etc. In the future we may find our current way of organising knowledge to be archaic and primitive in the same way we look back at medieval scholars.

But what about organising self-knowledge? Knowledge where the only one who can really decide what is true is yourself. And the only one that can decide what yourself even IS is yourself. I feel like I have looked back on my old ways of conceptualising myself many times (not even counting the gender-based revelations) and thought it primitive and archaic, and NOW I truly understand who I am and how to think of myself and how my thoughts interact with my other thoughts. But I have no doubt that I’ll look back on this current self of mine and reject their way of thinking too.

After their heart is replaced by the Black Rose, the duellists themselves frame this change as a moment of self realisation, of clarity. Once the rose is inside them, they wake up from themselves, like I have countless times. Kanae says herself, “This is the true me.” Honestly, I don’t doubt it. I think that version of Kanae was her true self at that moment, given the things influencing her. Being brainwashed doesn’t make you less of a person, or less yourself. It just makes you organise your reality differently.

心を凍結させて作っただけの間に合わせのデュ���リストでは、彼女は破れないな。

We won't be able to defeat her by simply freezing someone's heart and forcing them to duel.

Anya and I discussed this in depth. I originally translated 心 as “mind”, because that was the first thing that popped into my head and I thought that was the simple part of the translation. However, Anya pointed out that it didn’t make sense with the themes of self and subjective reality, and I strongly agreed, so I changed it to “heart” instead.

Anya suggested “conscious mind” instead of “heart” but I think heart is more accurate. 心 (kokoro) can mean heart or mind in Japanese (I find it interesting that those two things are portrayed as opposites in English), and that kanji is found in the word for biological heart, 心臓 (shinzou). When they say of the Black Rose "This is your new heart" they use 心臓. They also say "Your new 命 (life/lifeforce)" which I translated as soul since it sounded more hardcore and because "your new life" is a set phrase in English meaning a new chapter in your life rather than your life force. I think the idea is that they're freezing the duellists' ability to love and feel empathy, which in my opinion is necessary for them to commit to the unbelievably selfish act of revolutionising/reconstructing/bending the entire structure of the world for their own convenience.

A very special thanks to @dontbe-lasanya for being there to talk through all these themes and ideas. I'm incredibly proud of this episode's translation and I wouldn't have been able to do it without them.

If you want to see more analysis like this, let me know! And also follow this blog to see episodes of the fansub as they're released. You can find all episodes released so far here:

Rose divider taken from this post

[doctortwhohiddles]

I guess Patty is already bored with her new job and decided to get some attention from her cult members. Prepare for some incredibly delusional, parasocial bullshit.

Patty has NEVER tried to help Ben. She's only trying to help herself. She's too much of a narcissist to be able to think of others. The fact that she's willingly and knowingly enabling Aeltri and Mstoxictea's delusions and paranoia proves it.

This is also a massive example of projection on her part. She's the one who isn't doing anything to improve her life. Patty could have used th past 10 years to see a proper therapist to work on her issues. Instead, she used her Tumblr blog to spread lies and hate to feel better about herself.

As for Ben, his career is doing just fine. Just because we didn't get a DS3 announcement means that Disney is done with him. And if we don't get a new Doctor Strange movie, it's not going to be because he won't leave his wife and disown his kids.

I also have no fucking idea why she keeps insisting that Tom Cruise career is dead. All of his last movies were huge successes. I know the CoS is complete shit, but last I heard, everyone who has ever worked with Cruise only have good things to say about him. I doubt the same can be said of Patty.

Speaking of Scientology:

Now for those who don't know where the Scientology BS started, here is a quick rundown. A gossip rag wrote a blurb about the CoS trying to recruit Ben. Of course, the sQeptics ran with this like it was the gospel truth and not some lame rumors. Especially since Enty wrote a blind about it. A blind submitted by someone on our side (who filmed herself sending said blind) to prove he posts anything without checking it first. Something the sQeptics have been ignoring for almost a decade. Now, that's doubling down on the stupid.

[coelpts]

🔪 HEHE

🔪 ⇢ what's the weirdest topic you researched for a writing project?

scientology

well ok it wasnt exactly a WRITING PROJECT but i was running a fate campaign and one of my players suggested that he was an ex member of a scientology-esque cult so i had to dive as deep as i could without drowning to make a suitable simulacrum and parody for the players to interact with.

solid second place exclusively on the silliness meter, one time i had to source and cite streams and play by play recaps of the original twitch plays pokemon red for my mythology class.

[verdancy-hime]

Idk I liked a stupid clothing brand and I went to a bunch of parties

Then I was depressed as in other people the invisible hand of the free market or some malevolent force was constantly pressing down on me and preventing any forward movement for over 10 years.

Then I started a fake porn cult and I had a great time doing everything I wanted for like 3.5 years

Then the invisible hand came back like a million times worse and I'm pretty sure I proved it's either literally that rokos basilisk is real and hates me or that a large conspiracy of human beings is intentionally fucking with me like fair game in scientology on purpose

So in like a week or so I'm gonna kill myself on tax day and pretend it means the devil can't kill the fairies or something even though that's stupid.

I'll write a bunch of cringe stories where my life has meaning. It never did.

I didnt really want it to?

I wanted to have a nice little job and live in a pretty apartment and wear pretty clothes and make a bunch of friends and get to dabble in a lot of stupid art projects in my spare time like maybe write some shitty books 3 people liked or something.

It's fine. No one will miss me.

[msclaritea]

Benedict Cumberbatch, Olivia Colman to Lead 'War of the Roses' Remake

"The Roses’ is a wildly funny, bigger than life, and yet deeply human story,” said Searchlight president Matthew Greenfield announcing the project. “With Jay at the helm, and Benedict and Olivia and Tony, we have a dream team bringing it to life.”

So Matthew Greenfield at Searchlight is dirty...BEYOND dirty. No comment on Olivia Colman as of yet, but we all know now that actors and actresses usually have NO SAY I'm the projects they're currently put in. This film should not be made. It's another horrible, cruel joke to play on the fans of Benedict Cumberbatch and the people pushing it are on the same level as that jackal Jay Z and the NFL This is pure, sick, Freemason, ancient bullshit. Also, how is it this project is STILL in development, when it's BEEN in development since 2017?

And Benedict, if you go along with this project, it will be revealed to the public that you are going along with your own public humiliation, in order to enrich human traffickers.

Was Clarence really not enough for you?

Or Eric?

How about pissing on yourself in Louis Wain?

AND HEY, DISNEY...BIG FUCKING MISTAKE!

[babadork]

Ten Interesting Facts From Cult Following: The Extreme Sects That Capture Our Imaginations-and Take Over Our Lives

Adherents to Koreshan Unity believe that the earth is hollow, with the ground being the sphere's concave interior surface. The sun, planets, and everything else in the sky are optical illusions created by a set of metal discs.

One John Frum sect worshiped Prince Philip after a photo of him was found in a government outpost in the 1960s.

The Soul Light Resurgence Association believed that the earth had experienced five nuclear apocalypses, but God came in a flying saucer to rescue believers. The first nuclear apocalypse was a dinosaur war.

In addition to the Tate-LaBianca murders, it has been proven that the Manson Family killed two more people, and they may have committed a dozen more murders.

In December 1992, members of The Children of God/the Family sang for First Lady Barbara Bush at the White House.

Mohan Chandra Rajneesh, the founder of the Rajneesh Movement, convinced his followers to buy him a $1 million watch. He also owned ninety-three Rolls-Royces.

Before the sarin attack at Kasumigaseki Station, Aum Shinrikyo murdered the lawyer representing former members in a civil lawsuit and his family, attempted to buy nuclear weapons in Russia, tried to purchase land in Australia to mine uranium, and killed twenty people using Venomous Agent X.

The Planetary Activation Organization (AKA Ground Crew Project) got the attention of the media after members of the Heaven's Gate cult committed suicide, because they both had websites. However, there has been no abuse, crime, or unnatural deaths linked to the cult.

Wiley Brooks, the founder of the Breatharian Insitute of America, gained media attention after claiming to have not eaten solid food for seventeen years. His time as a cult leader ended quickly after he was caught leaving a 7-Eleven with a Slurpee, hot dog, and pack of Twinkies.

Many celebrities or people associated with celebrities have been connected to cults beyond Scientology and NXIVM. Thomas Nichols, the brother of Star Trek actress Nichelle Nichols, committed suicide with thirty-eight other members of the Heaven's Gate cult. Rod Sterling, Ray Bradbury, Leonard Nimoy, Jane Fonda, Charlton Heston, and Milton Berle attended Synanon meetings. Painter Jackson Pollock and Singer Judy Collins were Syllivanians.

[lowkeynando]

Bunker and Tory Christman initially questioned the legality of Project Chanology's methods, [7] but have since spoken out in support of the project as it shifted towards nonviolent protests and other legal methods. Life.Church (pronounced "Life Church" formerly known as LifeChurch.tv, Life Covenant Church, and Life Church) is an American evangelical multi-site church based in Edmond, Oklahoma. Craig.

Groeschel is the founder and senior pastor of Life.Church. Weekly church attendance was 85,000 people in 2018. The church is known for its YouVersion ministry, which publishes the Bible App. Scientology is a set of beliefs and practices invented by the American author L.

Ron Hubbard, and an associated movement. It has been variously defined as a cult, a business, or a new religious movement. [11] Its adherents are called Scientologists. The largest exponent of Scientology is the Church of Scientology, a centralized and hierarchical organization based in Florida and California, although practitioners exist independently of the Church, in what is called the Free Zone. Estimates put the number of Scientologists at under 40,000 worldwide.

Scientology texts say that a human possesses an immortal inner self, termed a thetan, that resides in the physical body and has experienced many past lives. Scientologists believe that traumatic events experienced by the thetan over its lifetimes have resulted ins CLONES

[nicollekidman]

abby, i wanna join you in loving tom cruise also because edge of tomorrow is so fun and i love that movie, but is there a different interpretation to him and the church of scientology cutting the kids’ contact with nicole? like maybe that’s not what happened? that just bothers me so much

i mean it's unmitigatedly shitty but they were members of a cult, and she got out. tom cruise is(was?) as much a cult member as any person involved in scientology (if he's still in it, we don't know atm) and it's not like he, with full autonomy, told her she couldn't see her children. they're also adults in a cult and severed contact.

like it fully sucks but i don't blame him for being the highest-profile most highly-guarded/isolated person within a religious cult whose survival was contingent for a number of years on him being a good prophet for them. so. yeah it bothers me but i don't blame him for it. i totally understand why that makes you not want to engage with his content but it's not a factor for me in enjoying his films.

[msclaritea]

Eric Photo Shows off the Benedict Cumberbatch Netflix Series

FEBRUARY 1, 2024

BY SPENCER LEGACY

A new Eric photo has been unveiled by Netflix, teasing the Benedict Cumberbatch series that will be released this year — no exact release date window was given.

“Set in 1980s New York, Eric is a new emotional thriller from Abi Morgan following the desperate search of a father when his nine-year-old son disappears one morning on the way to school,” reads the film‘s synopsis. “Vincent, one of New York’s leading puppeteers and creator of the hugely popular children’s television show, ‘Good Day Sunshine,’ struggles to cope with the loss of his son, Edgar, becoming increasingly distressed and volatile.

“Full of self-loathing and guilt around Edgar’s disappearance, he clings to his son’s drawings of a blue monster puppet, ERIC, convinced that if he can get ERIC on TV, then Edgar will come home. As Vincent’s progressively destructive behavior alienates his family, his work colleagues, and the detectives trying to help him, it’s Eric, a delusion of necessity, who becomes his only ally in the pursuit to bring his son home.”

You can see the new Eric photo below:

Who made Eric?

Eric was made and written by Abi Morgan and directed by Lucy Forbes. The series stars Benedict Cumberbatch, Gaby Hoffman, and McKinley Belcher III and was executive produced by Abi Morgan, Jane Featherstone, Lucy Dyke, Lucy Forbes, and Benedict Cumberbatch.

"... a father when his nine-year-old son disappears one morning on the way to school..."

A repeat of the narrative in the BBC series Ben did, about his missing daughter. AND very fucking triggering for real parents

“Vincent"

Doctor Strange's middle name

‘Good Day Sunshine,’

Isn't that a fucking Beatles song?

"...becoming increasingly distressed and volatile..."

Just like in every other film, Benedict gets forced into.

"blue puppet.."

Another way to put a code for water in the film; a threat and trigger

What I'm seeing is that members of the cult get a crack at torture of the Monarch. It ends here. Benedict, you now have a growing list of NEGATIVE rather than positive projects on your CV. I guarantee your fans are not going to be happy seeing you in repetitive, B level, triggering shite. Normally, an actor only plays a bereaving parent ONCE (cheesy 70s films, do not apply)

YOU have now played a grieving parent of a young child, twice. I'm not even impressed that you're listed as a Producer. Because I know you had nothing to do with the script, but people will think you did, and that you're ripping off your own stuff. So over the self-loathing, sad, slowly cracking up bullshit.

TEWSF...CRAP

BOOK OF CLARENCE...CRAP

ERIC...CRAP!

Benedict, get your shit together. I mean it.

[fratboycipher]

everytime i see that fearmongering scientology post on my dash i lose 15 years off my lifespan

like yes yall scientology is bad and a scam and you shouldnt interact with them but no they are not going to hunt you for sport or disappear you out of nowhere. unless you plan on joining the sea org or fucking david miscavige, you dont need to worry about scientology period. seriously that post is intentionally paranoia-inducing and yall need to calm down. worry about the catholic church or something they are much more prevalent and much more likely to kill you

like yeah dont join scientology unless you like losing money, but unless you have a couple hundred thousand of disposable income to toss at fake alien ghosts, you arent ever going to be even near the high level scientology torture warehouse bullshit. thanks

[agneswsblog]

I have so much appreciation and respect for y'all for continuing to patiently explain this stuff to trans activists, but honestly, you're wasting your time. Their accusations are pure, unadulterated projection. They're the ones who assume that any woman who presents as anything short of the hyperfeminine pink plastic ideal must not really be a woman. They're the ones calling for violence against what they view as their political "enemies". You guys ate trying to have a rational discussion with a cult. Sorry, I know this view has fallen out of favor (partially because it's another one of the things they do- notice that we point out their cultish tactics and behavior and try to get ahead of our correct observations by calling us a cult), but trans activism is just as impervious to rational debate as Scientology. Save your energy for the normies who still think this is an argument about bathrooms

it's not even that ppl slightly misunderstand radical feminism. they FULLY don't even know the core tenets and then end up saying stupid shit like "radical feminism thinks if you have short hair, you should be shot on sight because you have betrayed the barbie code" and will get 40k positive notes lmaoo

[lowkeynando]

Bunker and Tory Christman initially questioned the legality of Project Chanology's methods, [7] but have since spoken out in support of the project as it shifted towards nonviolent protests and other legal methods. Life.Church (pronounced "Life Church" formerly known as LifeChurch.tv, Life Covenant Church, and Life Church) is an American evangelical multi-site church based in Edmond, Oklahoma. Craig.

Groeschel is the founder and senior pastor of Life.Church. Weekly church attendance was 85,000 people in 2018. The church is known for its YouVersion ministry, which publishes the Bible App. Scientology is a set of beliefs and practices invented by the American author L.

Ron Hubbard, and an associated movement. It has been variously defined as a cult, a business, or a new religious movement. [11] Its adherents are called Scientologists. The largest exponent of Scientology is the Church of Scientology, a centralized and hierarchical organization based in Florida and California, although practitioners exist independently of the Church, in what is called the Free Zone. Estimates put the number of Scientologists at under 40,000 worldwide.

Scientology texts say that a human possesses an immortal inner self, termed a thetan, that resides in the physical body and has experienced many past lives. Scientologists believe that traumatic events experienced by the thetan over its lifetimes have resulted ins AND

[sophieinwonderland]

YEAH the new person saying the endo community is a cult is so weird like heh?? im gonna try to paraphrase their comments so you can get the gist of what they say without anyone going to attack them since they are a cult survivor and i can understand why they think that endogenics are a cult, but... it's just projection imo

they see the term sysmed as terrible and say using it is a cult tactic because it compares sysmeds to transmeds (even though if u think about it for 3 seconds it's like hold on, maybe there IS a connection between between two groups of people who think the only way to experience there personhood-related thing is through suffering. who knew!)

they think being pro-endos are brainwashed and programmed to believe a certain "niche" way of thinking, which is really really silly when the "way of thinking" is "hey maybe there are other ways of being more than one person other than trauma"

theres one exerpt of a post comparing plurality to scientology and saying that endogenics think that plurality makes you a better person compared to singlets / that dissociation/identity disturbances/internal voices aren't disordered at all / are not symptoms at all. when that is factually entirely incorrect, they can be symptoms of problems and no system is better than any singlet just by being more than one person

"they actively target the mentally ill and instill fear towards them seeking treatment" as if sysmeds aren't the ones making us feel more fake and less deserving of disordered-system resources

also them repeating the idea that people think alters arent real people but soulbonds/endogenic headmates are real people, which isn't true (many alters are real people and some endogenic headmates may just be parts / not full people)

also them claiming that most endogenics are white, middle class americans with religious/christian trauma??? they used screenshots from SAS to "prove" their point which is really strange- (and also making fun of people "bastardizing other cultures" right after... like maybe, some of the people who are "bastardizing" cultures might just be engaging in their own culture? or be engaging in something so disconnected from the original concept like tulpamancy, that many non-actively-syscourse-engaging buddhists dont care and don't mind lol)

also also them reblogging from sweet-sloths-sys making fun of someone asking for money, which is the literal ONLY "pro-endo" that i've seen act like that. it's embarrassing. like we blocked that "pro endo" the moment we saw them they are just as bad as any sysmed we've seen lol no one whom i know is pro-endo agrees with their bullshit

them saying endogenics have MADD and not plurality??? what the fuck lol

and more but im getting a headache scrolling through their blog lol

and yk maybe i am looking too hard into it but when we've had moments when we were fixated on cults (especially this one youtuber who talks about a certain cult a lot), comparing that to people going "hey maybe my perspective on life isnt the only perspective, science doesnt always account for personal perspective" and supporting endogenic systems is... weird.

yeah, sure there are a LOT of cult-like behaviors in certain endogenic groups, but to call the entire thing a cult is very strange, and honestly downplays the actual cult behaviors in the sub-groups which should be talked about.

but me saying "hey maybe plurality isn't inherently a disordered experience" isn't fucking cult-behavior! at least compare this shit to the BITE model or SOMETHING lol

Thanks for the rundown!

they think being pro-endos are brainwashed and programmed to believe a certain "niche" way of thinking, which is really really silly when the "way of thinking" is "hey maybe there are other ways of being more than one person other than trauma"

Another thing that bothers me about this is that by this logic, any belief that's not mainstream could be considered a cult. That includes a ton of smaller religions. It could even include the MOGAI community, since xenogenders are still pretty niche themselves.

And I too am SO curious where their endogenic demographics come from! It sounds like they just made them up.

them saying endogenics have MADD and not plurality??? what the fuck lol

I've seen this take several times, and it's just total medical misinformation.

If you have daydream characters with a will of their own who takeover your body, those aren't just daydream characters. Switching is not a normal symptom of MADD. (Although MADD is often related to plurality.)

[mde1011]

some quotes i jotted down from that wonderful stream of tommy‘s (some lore spoilers)

“do you smoke sam” “all the time”

“i thought you were talking about the- the speeeeed drug”

“have you ever sold drugs to kids sam?” “......no”

“shecure is a hard word how do you say it? secure? shecure?” “...secure...?”

“we can’t let the girlboss rule because she will gatekeepe my feelings” “that would not be pog”

“THEY DIDNT INVITE ME TO KILL ME???? NOW I HAVE FOMO”

“i’ll load it up king- ive started saying king a lot” “yeah yeah i’ve noticed i like it” “you are admittedly a king sam so”

“strong man” “how does TWIG rhyme with STRONG??????”

“you have obviously taken part in scientology-“ “i have not-“ “you’ve donated to tom cruises cult shit”

“....am i worse than david dobrik?” “are- are we worse than david dobrik?” “oh- oh god”

“cAPTAIN PUFFY IS YOUR LAWYER????” “she IS? I HAVE A LAWYER THATS NOT BIG Q OR BIG LAW?”

“DONT TELLL RANBOO IM UPSET IM NOT UPSET IM FINE IM FINE”

“............howd the talk with the lawyer go.....sounded like it went pretty well” “sam. samuel” “oh god what’s happening you called me samuel”

“gotta go get some la-piss”

“come and hang out i am live it will be nice come and hang out kings” “o-oh you just pinged the WHOLE discord wow-“ “maybe vikkstar will come”

“doNT SAY YOURE LOVING THIS CHAT I AM IN PERIL”

“he has broke one of the rules of the hit best seller ‘the bible’- this kind of looks like a cock”

“well i’ve moved now, KING”

“what is an angsty teen and am i one? because when i USED to hang out with tubbo and ranboo they used the word angst a lot”

“yeah yeah yeah i bench”

“sam i think i’m angsty i think i’m an angsty tik tok teen looking for a community to help me out”

“i don’t think you’ve followed the train of logic all the way-“ “there’s a TRAIN INVOLVED????????”

“i’m like the orange fucker from that animated rom com”

“THIS IS WHO I NEEDED RIGHT NOW IM IN PERIL I AM ANGRY- oh wait that’s wrong that’s wrong-“ “angry is different from angsty”

“i need a lawyer and they need to be big and strong and angry and ready to fight”

“what’s wrong with killing somebody?” “.........HEY nononononono don’t think i forget when you locked me in there you- you PSYCO FREAK” “you should talk to your lawyer about that”

📷

“i can read minds” “what am i th-“ “tits” “what”

“shUT UP PUSSY”

“you just- you just do NOT have blue balls”

“you think this guy will win?” “SHUT THE FUCK UP” “I LIKE THIS GUY”

“STOP STARING AT MY TIE YOU ARE OBJECTIFYING ME” “I DONT MEAN TO-“ “U ARE-“ “ITS A WONDERFUL TIE-“

“i can’t look away it’s just so-“

“i’m under the influence of big cock”

“it’s meeee big cock man”

“i cant look away” “sam please use your twitter alt for this” “he’s horny on maaaainnnnn” “and what’s wrong with that?” “.......”

“you’re a FUCKING IDIOT” “IM NOT A FUCKING IDIOT, BIG COCK”

“i’m gonna call you ‘cockity’ big cock” “sHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP-“

“STOP LOOKING AT IT” “ITS SO VIBRANT”

“at least this guy doesn’t have a cock-“ “itS NOT A COCK” “horny on main jesus-“

“is that a cock” “SHUT THE FUCK UP”

“.....i wanna see the inside of it again do a split”

“i heard....i heard there is a big cock in town....”

“why did you say that to me jesus” “did you just come for the cock?”

“nOOOO JESUS JESUS GO AWA-“

“okay sam-“ “tommy that guy wants your cock-“ “no- no he doesn’t sam”

“i- i just looked to my right and the entire chat is just ‘E E E E E I’”

“sam, sam and i need you to hear this....dont. act. up.” “i don’t act up-“ “you were acting up-“ “i-“ “you were caught in 8k.” “but- but we both agree it’s not a tie-“

“please don’t tell me to kill cockity i am overwhelmed”

“why is there an anus in my tie?”

“what are the legal implications of this?” “...i mean besides hell you’re good”

“jack mana-bitch”

“whatre the legal implications?” “i mean usually that’s a no-no but today, today it’s fine” “yeahhh lets go murder his family”

<Foolish_Gamers was blown up by awesamdude> “hahahahgahah” “wHY ARE YOU DEAD??? WHY IS OUR LAWYER DEAD” “that- killing jesus is a big no-no”

“jesus is back ayyyy” “three whole days ayyy he’s back from the cave” “that was three whole minutes” “he speedran it” “why didn’t he do that in the bestseller?” “are you referring to the best seller called ‘the bible’?”

“i’d be an antivax landlord”

“i’m real like are-kansas” “that’s not REAL” “it IS”

“you’re projecting your own problems onto me, puss” “wHAT THE FUCK”

“i just don’t want you to girlboss me”

“i am the girlboss and i will gatekeep” “you are a girlboss”

“we will join vc two and then we’re gonna gatekeep them and the we’re gonna gaslight them”

“that’s such a funny joke man-“ “it’s not a joke. dollywood is real”

“does anyone have cocaine?” “ooooh i remember when you did cocaine last night awesamdude”

“jesus never does drugs” “well- well you turned water into wine king and wine is alcohol”

“can you put on pants i can’t- i cant stop looking at it- sorry tommy i know you said-“ “yeah sam i know you tried-“

“you know i fuck with satan”

“i’m sorry jesus lucifer is just such a good man-“ “oh you- hold me BACK FROM THIS FUCKER HOLD ME BACK ILL SEND HIM TO HELL YOU LIKE HELL-“

“are you jesus or just a man who grew a beard and put on a suit?”

“even the guy with his cock out is telling you to stop-“ “oh jesus, and i mean jesus-“ “shUT THE FUCK UP MAN”

“the best best way to slander him is to stop his offspring; we need to kick him the balls.....no? not a good....? alright us four each take a ball-“

“......jack manifold has four balls?”

“......why did jesus give him four scrotums man🙁🙁”

<Quackity fell from a high place>

<awesamdude> BIG COCK DOWN

[weirdcultstuff]

Books I’ve read in the past three months that are relevant to my cult/religious trauma/deconversion research:

Why I Believed: Reflections of a Former Missionary, by Kenneth W Daniels

When The English Fall: A Novel, by David Williams

Captive: A Mother’s Crusade to Save Her Daughter From a Terrifying Cult, by Catherine Oxenberg

1984, by George Orwell

Mind Control Manual: Vital Concepts About Mind Control, Cults, and Psychopaths, by Dr. David Mc Dermott

From Apostle to Apostate: The Story of the Clergy Project, by Catherine Dunphy

I’m Perfect, You’re Doomed: Tales from a Jehovah’s Witness Upbringing, by Kyria Abrahams

Stolen Innocence: My Story of Growing Up in a Polygamous Sect, Becoming a Teenage Bride, and Breaking Free of Warren Jeffs, by Lisa Pulitzer

Mennonite in a Little Black Dress: A Memoir of Going Home, by Rhoda Janzen

Growing Up Amish: A Memoir, by Ira Wagler

Beyond Belief: My Secret Life Inside Scientology and My Harrowing Escape, by Jenna Miscavige Hill

Out of Deception, by Nathan O. Miller

Why Does He Do That?, by Lundy Bancroft

The New Way: Protestantism and the Hmong in Vietnam, by Tâm T. T. Ngô

The Cult of Trump, by Steven Hassan

U-Turn: What If You Woke Up One Morning and Realized You Were Living The Wrong Life?, by Bruce Grierson

Becoming An Ex: The Process of Role Exit, by Helen Rose Fuchs Ebaugh

The Very Worst Missionary, by Jamie Wright

A Pilgrim’s Wilderness, by Tom Kizzia

Cult, A Love Story: Ten Years Inside a Canadian Cult and the Subsequent Long Road of Recovery, by Alexandra Amor

Comforting Thoughts About Death That Have Nothing To Do With God, by Greta Christina

Broken Faith: Inside the Word of Faith Fellowship, One of America’s Most Dangerous Cults, by Mitch Weiss

My Amish Story: Breaking Generations of Silence, by Rebecca Borntraber Graber

The Body Keeps The Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma, by Bessel van der Kolk M.D.

Rejected, Shamed, And Blamed: Family Scapegoat Dynamics, by Rebecca C. Mandeville MFT

Deconversion: Qualitative and Quantitative Results from Cross-Cultural Research in Germany and the United States of America, by Heinz Streib, Barbara Keller, James T. Richardson, Ralph W. Hood Jr., and Christopher F. Silver