#Fiore Dei Liberi

[wearefighter]

[varanusniloticus]

No idea if this Korean manual deals with explanations that pertain uniquely to Fior di Battaglia (They'e using Posta Dente di Cenghiaro and the golden garter symbology) but making an modernly illustrated translation + guide to Fiore's Armizare sounds like a great retirement project...

[kv-actual]

which virtue of the swordsman are you based on flos duellatorum?

Certainly the Lynx and the Elephant. Structure, strength and measure are usually my foundation.

Continuing to work on my daring and speed but I'm definitely not a counter fighter. My height and size helps in close binds and intimidation.

One of my favourite positions to fight from is bicornio on the right shoulder / Two-horned stance / Stance of the Anvil

It confuses German fighters and it's a fun way to setup a thrust or even a quick fendettte cut.

[kinsey3furry300]

"Ah, knightly combat, so chivalrous and noble!"

Fiore dei Liberi:

[we-are-knight]

It’s a Spear. So use it like one..

[salternator]

I tried to get the bots to fight each other, but they started discussing fencing instead.

Also, Gabriel is now Italian, very cool.

[a-silent-bear]

Un po’ come quel fiore, bianco, limpido e puro, ma che fa fatica a reggere il peso di tutto ciò che attorno a lui non è sincero. Eppure regge, fa fatica a volte, ma regge. Ha deciso di non mollare, e di continuare a cercare il posto in cui sentirsi leggero.

[corrugatedcavalier]

Hey folks! Coming over from twitter. I work with Historical European Martial Arts and Arms and Armor. Feel free to so say Hi!

[apieters]

@masterfuldoodler You have been ATTACKED!!!

This is August’s cheetah character, Jacer. Since he’s good with a blade and his blade of choice is a longsword, I decided to draw him waiting confidently in Fiore dei Liberi’s guard for sword in one hand, Guardia Coda Lunga, the “Guard of the Long Tail.” How appropriate for a cheetah.

First ever attack for ArtFight—and here I am: https://artfight.net/~AlchemistCleric

[varanusniloticus]

Well, here I go again! The event starts at 10 am and ends at 6 pm (My old man body will certainly regret it, but you have no idea, BEING ASKED TO DO THIS AGAIN BRINGS ME SO MUCH JOY!)

[vidilpoge]

2023/03/28 Training blog

Finally we started meisterhaus! Of course we begin from the top, Zornhau.

After warming up, first we did some laps with footwork, then the "Forma di Fiore". That's what they call some sequence lifted from Flos Duellatorum. One of these days I will explain what it is about, I'm not confident enough right now. Did I tell how we are studying _German_ longsword? Dunno shite bout Fiore.

So we pair up and finally try Zornhau ort (hort? I really didn't think this whole blog thing throu bc I do not need to spell the german words like, ever). Then we tried the rest of the play with counters and counter-counters. The moves came back to me gradually, as I've already studied and drilled the damn thing multiple times, in different halls and clubs, under different instructors. Still! The tempo! What a pain! You truly need to be Meister to act indes. Also I find the counter abnemen (???) to take some serius balls to pull off. I hate leaving the bind in close distance, in krieg.

This fine evening we had a woman in her thirties coming in for a free try, all alone. I could absolutely feel how scary she would be when the two instructors would talk in front of her, plastic weapon in hand, cutting off space while they were just explaining the technical terms and such. I shall tell them the next time to leave more space, physical space, between them and the tryout and the fricking door.

[malaguttifederico]

My series of Patrons-Only videos dedicated to the full Interpretation of Fiore de' Liberi Longsword is moving forward. With the new video, I completed the analysis of the "Gioco del Villano) and of the following plays, leg void and kick.

This brings the series to a total of 10 plays analyzed through 9 videos, 230 minutes in total.

The next step will move the series on, with the first explanation of the Scambiar di Punta play.

The series is in fact organized in sets of three videos, every set analyzes a group of plays in different ways:

A) A Sword-in Hand explanation, where I explain the play by using minimal equipment only, which lets me talk while showing the actions.

B) A Book-in-Hand explanation: Where I deliver the translation of the Glossa and I explain where to find what on it.

C) An application video, in which I show the application of the plays, both in their original execution and in the most useful sparring adaptations and variations.

Here is the Link to my Patreon, if you want to give a look to the series. Every Tier from Spearman above is able to watch the entire series of videos:

[18arte]

Fiore

[confusedbyinterface]

Misericorde and Fiore

Disclaimer: I have a few years of German longsword training but I'm pretty rusty and I'm not that familiar with Fiore. Images and text from fightlikefiore on wordpress and Wikitenauer. I don't think “the nuns use swords” is a spoiler when there's a nun and a sword on the title screen but getting into the characters might be a bit spoilery.

There's a scene in Misericorde at Catherine's wake where the nuns break open sherry barrels with a sword in her honour.

When I saw Adela I thought her stance looked very familiar.

This is from Fior di Battaglia by Fiore dei Liberi, written circa 1404. I'm pretty sure Xeecee used fencing manuals as references for their drawings.

Lets see what each nun's stance might tell us!

Adela: Posta Longa

This is Posta Longa (Long Guard), full of deception. She is feeling the guards of the opponents to decieve them. If she can wound with a thrust, she will do it well. She dodges the blows and can strike back. She can do it more than the other guards who cannot use such deception.

Adela is clearly a skilled swordwoman: she breaks the barrel in one strike. Also, she likes being clever. Look at how she plays chess. She gets mad when Moira beats her just by gaining a material advantage, instead of coming up with a clever strategy. This is very romantic (even if “romantic chess” like tarot readings is a bit anachronistic). Forcing your enemy to break your guard and countering it with a clever, deceptive move is very fitting for her

Katherine: Posta de Donna la Sinistra

This is the Posta di Donna la Sinestra (Lady’s Guard on the Left) and she is always ready to cover and wound. She makes great blows and breaks the thrusts and beats them to the ground. And enters the narrow play due to her skill in traversing. These plays such a guard knows how to do well.

Of course Katherine uses the Lady's Guard. Xeecee draws it very casually, like she's just posing with a sword looking hot, but if you underestimate Katherine you're making a big mistake.

You could make a pretty powerful strike to the neck from this guard.

Moira: Alber

Oh no, Moira doesn't know how to hold a sword, it's too heavy for her, right? Wrong. This is Alber, “The Fool”, which to the untrained looks weak and invites attacks but can easily parry them and strike back.

The equivalent in the Fiore tradition is Posta Tutti Porta di Ferro, the Full Iron Gate Guard. Other German swordmasters call it Eisen Pforte, Iron Gate. That's a much better description of its strength.

If you are beset with four  or six impertinent peasants Place in front whichever foot you want  and with the gate make a barrier And put the point on the ground /  now hear what you should do See to it that they stay  all in front of your face And no one comes behind you  Now hear what you should do Whatever they strike or thrust  against you, weak them with absetzten Strongly upwards from the ground /  so you will put them to shame

This is really interesting! Moira isn't as soft as she looks. She's got hidden depths to her, and real iron inside. It's even possible she's putting up a front, and is just luring you in so she can put you to shame.

Eustace: Posta Coda Longa

‘You are cowardly wretches and of this art you know little. Do the deeds that you can only talk of. Come one by one, if you dare, and if you were a hundred I would ruin you all, this guard is so good and strong.’

Eustace would fucking say this.

Also, the description of her seven strikes, left right left right top top thrust, reminds me of sword training. Like the Meyer Squares and that. Eustace is getting in some good practice!

Darcy: Mordhau / Posta de Donna la Soprano

Here he leads with the murder strike

This sword is used as a sword and an axe. And its great force can stop any attack from a lighter weapon. This guard is also called the Posta di Donna la Soprano (High Lady's Guard) who with her skill can fool the other guards, because you think she will attack you with a strike, but instead she will attack with a thrust. All I have to do is raise my arms above my head and I can then quickly launch a thrust at you.

This looks silly, but Darcy's found the right technique for breaking open wine barrels with a sword. Aside from Adela she's the only one to do it in one strike. It's a lot safer if you have proper gloves or gauntlets though. Darcy can seem goofy but she knows what she's doing.

I'll have to see where the story goes, especially with the possible implication that Moira's hiding something, but it's interesting to think about!

[bethrnoora]

get fucked