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bomnun · 2 years
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outsourced and unnecessary pentagon songs, even the good ones, age so much faster than their self produced ones… it’s crazy to me. just to give some examples: upon first listen I really liked asteroid, more than most of the bsides on universe:the black hall, but now I very frequently skip it, and have listened to it way fewer times than the likes of camellia, shower of rain and someday. can you feel it used to be really enjoyable to me and I used to think it was the one (1) acceptable outsourced korean title track, but now I can’t listen to it anymore (and I’ve listened to it considerably less than maaaany of their songs) … lukewarm was flashy and fun the first time I heard it, but it’s joined the rest of the pre-demo_01 bsides in the category of pentagon songs I hardly listen to… I don’t know what it is specifically, but they just put a different juice into the music they perform themselves. I don’t like all of the self produced songs, but in almost all of them there are more layers, more harmonies, more ideas and there was just more care put into them. this is what they want to do and they know best how to make that feeling come true and express that. objectively speaking they’re not all the absolute top of the top producers or composers, but there’s just a totally different feel to me personally. even when I am unaware that a song was self produced (I didn’t know “I’m fine” was by hui… I thought that was outsourced) I’ll listen to it more than other outsourced songs on the same album…I guess I just really like them and the feel they have into it… I think im a bit of a hedonist too in liking extremely layered and intricate songs… I like relistening and hearing new details and little background vocals and sound effects I hadn’t heard before, and I feel like they just work their own songs to perfection (not actual perfection, but to some kind of near-completeness) much harder than any outsourced songs given to them (with the exception of cosmo…cosmo is insane…thank you teru)
even songs they make for other people don’t have this same extreme care, and though they may be very layered and detailed…I feel like (maybe this is only in my head) the overall care isn’t there… it all makes sense though. I’d put more effort into music if I were performing it myself and presenting it under my name and my name only, and not selling the demo to someone else.
#HKDJDJS I don’t think hedonist is right but like#i love it when there’s STUFF I love an intricate functional picture#i want many ideas I want many different types of ideas#which is another reason I really like how many of them actually compose songs#here it’s not too many chefs spoil the broth of whateve because they do their own different things#sometimes they collaborate#and I’m not saying they’re much better than everyone else#but they do ~pentagon music~ better and with more care than anyone else could#and I like that#also blah blah not saying everything they do is the lost authentic#some of the ptg members have more misses than others…another discussion#t says#it’s been a while since I wrote a ptg ramble for no reason <3#FUCK I LOVE PENTAGON MUSIC !!#i just listened to just do it yo!! and that’s what prompted this#I seriously almost exclusively listen to their self composed songs though#the only real exceptions are Cosmo and & you#everything else … hm it’s ok but like#i wouldn’t explode if it disappeared#my personal opinion I know many disagree agdjsjsj#this is all my silly opinion#not saying I can’t appreciate simplicity#sometimes simplicity is best#but it has to be smart simplicity#just like stacked detailed songs need to be smart too#otherwise you just get stuff like sticker or something#maybe not sticker it’s pretty simpel…just annoying#zimzalabim is a better example#oh yeah beautiful by irun too…love that one but he basically just wrote that one for bitubi and had to pass it onto pitigi that’s a#different story than cube buying some random sm reject song
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paulrennie · 7 years
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What is Music?
The Wonderful Everyday…What is Music?
Music for All...
Cornelius Cardew was an English composer and marxist…the Scratch Orchestra was formed by Cardew at Morley College in London. Cardew was killed when he was knocked down by a hit-and-run driver.
The Morley group were dissatisfied with ‘established, serious music’; in other words, they were dissatisfied with the elitism of ‘serious’ music and its strong class image and with the repression of working musicians into the role of slavish hacks churning out the stock repertoire of concert hall and opera house.
The prevailing dry, limited, critical approach to music in the UK had for them killed spontaneity and simple enjoyment of music and reduced it to an academic and self-conscious ‘appreciation’ of form and technique.
In the Draft Constitution, the category of Popular Classics - where famous but now hackneyed classics were given unorthodox and irreverent interpretations - was a blow against the crippling orthodoxy of ‘musical taste’.
The attraction of a number non-reading musicians and actual non-musicians into the Orchestra through seeing the Draft Constitution was therefore welcomed. Here was a source of ideas and spontaneity less hampered by academic training and inhibitions.
Amongst the Scratch Orchestra members there was considerable support for the ideas of John Cage and Christian Wolff, etc.; that is, random music with a multiplicity of fragments without cohesion as opposed to serialism. Aleatory (chance) music seemed richer, unpredictable, free! But serialism, the tradition stemming from Schöenberg, was formal, abstract and authoritarian.
Most important was the social implication of Cage’s work — the idea that we are all musical, that anybody can play…
Cardew’s project was an attempt to articulate a music of ideas that was transcendent for both players and audience. For Cardew, this became an increasingly political project that he likened to a sort of political-consciousness-raising. In practical terms, the project was aligned with both the methodologies of skiffle and punk, but applied to the orchestral form.
I completely agree with this idea…as it developed out of the UK counter-cultural scene of the late 1960s. However, I can now understand that the high-minded intellectualism of Cardew’s efforts would have doomed it to fail…interestingly, all these ideas resurfaced in the Balearics during the 1990s and in relation to the sunshine, recreational drugs and high-energy dance scene.
I have been listening to an album of Billie Holliday remixed…(there’s a sister album of the same thing with Nina Simone). One of the songs is, I Hear Music (1940) by the US songwriter, Burton Lane, and with lyrics by Frank Loesser, for the Paramount Pictures movie, Dancing on a Dime.
Loesser is famous, these days, for writing the musical, Guys and Dolls (1950).
Here’s part of the song lyric for I Hear Music
I hear music Mighty fine music The murmur of a morning breeze up there The rattle of the milkman on the stair
Sure that’s music Mighty fine music The singing of a sparrow in the sky The perking of the coffee right near by
That’s my favorite melody You my angel, phoning me…
This was a really interesting idea for music in 1940…and is suggestive of John Cage’s musical experimentation from the 1950s and subsequently.
Since the Romantic period, composers have found inspiration in the sounds of nature. But this isn’t the same as saying that music is everywhere…In the old days, the music still had to be composed and transcribed for instruments.
Nowadays, you can record the sounds and assemble them in loops and structures that can go on, without repetition, almost for ever…everything can be sampled and re-mixed into something new…
The desire to find music, and art, in the wonderful everyday, is an important idea from design reform and the 20C avant-garde. The idea combines democratic and popular-front politics with aesthetics. Assuming that art, in all its forms, is elevating…wouldn’t be good if everyone could benefit from this moral elevation? That was an idea from Ruskin and Morris,  Brecht and Benjamin…The same idea re-surfaces, again, in the 1960s musical idealism of Cornelius Cardew  and provides the corner-stone for the transformation of culture through digital forms.
It’s amazing how this has been contested throughout…indeed, the dominant culture encourages various forms of instutionalised gate-keeping that try and keep art and the everyday in their different boxes…mostly, this is done by exclusion.
Ironically, the tendency of the avant-garde to over-intellectualise culture and turn it all into a form of capital has become one of the most effective gate-keeping mechanisms of exclusion…see, for example, Cardew writing about the tyranny of taste…or Crary on cultural capital and exclusion.
I’m not sure that the song lyric is actually about this strand of avant-garde thinking…it’s more likely about how love fills your heart with a feeling that is analogous with music…if your heart is singing, that is a kind of music too.
Actually, I don’t think this matters. The lyric is still expressing an important and sophisticated idea about the universality of music.
The late Sir George Martin understood this too…
All art aspires to the form of music; where form, content, and feeling, are each synthesised into a single coherent experience: the wonderful everyday…
Machine Noises (Kling-Klang)
There is a fabulous film by Jean Mitry called Pacific 231. It’s a film sequence of trains edited to the music of Arthur Honneger. The film is from 1949.
This film essay is in two main parts.
The introduction has scenes of make-ready with engines and rolling-stock being moved about against the background sounds of metal, steam and machine. The industrial noises of the machinery are a kind of music. There’s a wonderful sequence of images of the engine on a turntable.
The second part of the film is of the engine at speed and its journey. The train leaves from the Gare du Nord and is the northern express towards Lille. I’m guessing that, based on my knowledge of the shape of the train-shed canopy in the film.
The second part has the musical soundtrack by Honneger. Honneger’s music is an orchestral evocation of the power and speed of the train. It’s the music of industry and engineering and speed…
It turns out that Jean Mitry was one of the first people to write about film and cinema in a seriously academic way. His work covers aesthetics, psychology, semiotics and analysis. There’s a little about Mitry, here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Mitry
Honneger was not the only person to be thinking of the musical quality of industrial noise. The connection goes right back to the beginnings of the avant-garde and the willingness to interrogate the formal and structural qualities of art, music and literature.
The poetic experiments of the Italian Futurists kick it all off with Marinetti’s Zang Tumb Tumb (1914). The experiments of concrete poetry and everything else followed from that…
It wasn’t long before the musical avant-garde adopted the Dada strategy of making art with whatever was to hand. That opened the door, so to speak, for a repertoire beyond the established instruments…
It’s amazing how difficult people find it to accept “noise,” or even silence, as music. In the end, it comes down to a kind of political tolerance.
The machine music of Johann Johannsson is amazing. It’s made up of layers of sound derived from the machine noise associated with heavy industry, along with passages of the organ music and brass band music traditionally associated with working communities. These three layers are held together by a sort of low hum of electronic sound…
It’s a kind of music that doesn’t really have a tune; but is full of feeling. It’s a big sound by Johann Johannsson.
In the UK, this approach gave us the experimental music movement of the 1960s and the “scratch orchestra.” This was a kind of musical “flash-mob.” In Germany, Kraftwerk recorded a piece of music called Kling-Klang (1972) and gave the name to their recording studio.
If you watch the Mitry film titles, you’ll see that the sound recording is by “Klang-Film.” So, “Klang” is a sound that’s loaded with meanings for the people who might recognise this term.
Last night, I was rocked to sleep by the noise of the dishwasher cycle…It was pretty amazing listening, in the dark, to the repetition of percussive noises and watery gargles…
I began to imagine a process of sampling those machine noises, synthesising the sounds and making loops…to create a Dishwasher Cycle of electronic machine noises. Sort of Johann Johannsson, in the kitchen.
I could begin to do that with my macbook and garageband software…I just wouldn’t be able to do it very well.
Remember that what you have in the machine changes the sounds it makes too, and so no two loads play the same. There’s plenty of variety in this plan and much scope for happy accidents.
Then I wondered why Kraftwerk hadn’t done this in the 1970s…That was easy, no one had dishwashers back then. Not in Germany anyway. And hardly anyone had computers or synthesisers or anything.
We did have cars though, and Kraftwerk made Autobahn (1974).
But why stop at dishwashers? Why not go the whole hog and include fridges and microwaves and whatever…it could be the internet of things, in song.
I also designed the LP sleeve in my head. If I had ever made a record, I would have loved being able to have a hand-in the sleeve design.
So, front has a lovely even stove enamelled finish like you get on high-end household machines. The back cover has a picture of fly-tipped white goods by the roadside…
This was a great idea in the middle of the night…but I also realised that this was a project that needed doing 40 years ago. Against the prevailing ethos of punk, back then, this project might have seemed a bit up-its-own-orifice.
Actually, the Art of Noise did do something a bit similar…
And it all merged into the eclectic and hybrid scene that we have now.
NB I should point out that I have absolutely no practical musical skill and could never have realised this project, then or now. The bits of noise would still have to be made into something bigger…
There is a picture by Caspar David Friedrich, the German Romantic artist…it’s called The Sea of Ice, and dates from the 1820s. It shows the landscape ripped apart and splintered by the forces of nature…it must have seemed like a picture of chaos…and would have been understood, by people looking at it, as both beautiful and terrifying, and all at the same time.
This sense of a terrible beauty is what Edmund Burke was thinking of when he described the sublime as one of the founding sensibilities of the Romantic movement. Burke probably didn’t know about the frozen wastes…but he new about the alpine massif and the ocean.
You get the same terrible beauty from these black-and-white images from the expeditions to the Arctic and the Antarctic. Captain Scott’s photographer was Herbert Ponting…a sort of English proto Dziga-Vertov.
The frozen wastes were so vast that almost all the explorers made use if the latest tachnologies - balloons, airships, and motor-powered tracked vehicles. Keeping the machines going was a big challenge…and if they stopped, you died.
I was thrilled to find a piece of music by Thomas Koner, called Daikan. Apparently, it’s from a genre called ambient drone…it’s music expressed as an abstract kind of machine noise or tone.
That’s a different kind of terrible beauty…
Music All Around…
Charles Ives (1874-1954) was a pioneer American modernist in orchestral music, at a time when US musical culture was still pretty under-developed.
America has always done popular music really well…but it took a long time for its serious orchestral music to become something that could stand alongside the German, French, and Italian, traditions in Europe.
The Juilliard School, America’s first conservatory school, was only established in 1905! The school was first set up as the Institute of Musical Art, before being endowed by Augustus Juilliard, and others, during the 1920s.
Ives was the son of a military band instructor and he spent much of his childhood watching parades and listening to marching bands. That’s not so bad. Don’t forget that American marching bands have tunes by JP Souza (1854-1932), the March King.
Ives was not really a professional composer. He worked as an insurance saleman…and was quite successful. Academic research has revealed that Ives invented himself a little…
Anyone who has watched a marching band will understand that, as the band marches up-and-down, it has to turn on itself…that means that, briefly, there is music coming from two directions, at least…that’s a new and exciting noise.
Listen to
Country Band March (c1907?)
and also, the four part
New England Holidays (1919)
This fragmentation is the same kind if insight as cubism and as understanding that the straight-on view of the the theatre stage is a bit limited…we don’t hear the world symphonically, we here it as fragments that we assemble into a coherent gestalt.
Ives was one of the first people to try and describe this fragmented perception of life, and sound, through music. You get the same thing in the European later Romantics, especially Gustav Mahler (1860-1911)…but the Europeans tended to do it with bits of folk song and traditional tunes.
I was reminded of this as I found a contemporary interpretation and recording of Luigi Boccherini‘s (1743-1805), Musica notturna delle strade di Madrid from 1780.
In its original form, the music is quite formal and stately…it is music to promenade by…In Luciano Berio’s new interpretation, the street becomes much more dynamic and messy…that’s great; with bits of tune coming from everywhere.
The original Boccherini is familiar from the film version of Master and Commander (2003). I have been thinking about this as I listen to Gavin Bryars, a contemporary British composer who uses sampled fragments…hip hop, anyone?
The contemporary American composer, John Adams, has revisited Charles Ives in the autobiographical, My Father Knew Charles Ives (2003). Here are the notes on this piece from the John Admas, Earbox, site…
The march tempo announces itself and the familiar cadences kick in. Not to worry about the snatches of melody. They are as fictive as the title itself. As with the gaudy “ur-melody” in Grand Pianola Music, you’re certain you’ve heard this music before, but you are damned if you can identify it. Only a smirk from trumpets playing “Reveille” and, in the coda, a hint of Ives’s beloved “Nearer My God to Thee” are the genuine article.
I just discovered the fact, from Alex Ross, that the Hollywood film music composer, Lalo Schifrin (Bullitt ,1968, for example) studied in Paris with Olivier Messiaen! I love those sorts of connections…
People listen to incredibly complex and beautiful music in the context of film; but they don’t go to the concert hall (that much)…it’s all just music for advertising…
Unless you are familiar with modern British orchestral music, you probably won’t have heard of the British composer, and player Gavin Bryars.
Bryars was part of the avant-garde musical scene that more-or-less invented ambient. In the context of Britain, the 1960s counter-culture was formed from a lifestyle of youthful fashion and music. It was much less about politics than, say, the counterculture of the US, or France, or Italy.
Back in the day, there was no extended period between childhood and adulthood. I recall that, at school, most people followed their father’s careers and went straight into the world of work.
The post-WW2 expansion of higher education provided a space, for the first time, where it was possible to become something different…The universities and art-schools of Britain became a sort of test-bed for change.
In the context of the social-scientific methodology of the counter-culture, musicians began to question the orthodox understanding of musical form and aesthetics. By asking, for example, whether music must always have a tune? And what exactly is quality in musical playing, and how might this institutionalised consideration discriminate against access to the pleasures of music?
Luckily, the answer to these questions was suggested by new kinds of music…based on recorded industrial noise, repeated loops, and by the natural playing of untutored amateur musicians. The apotheosis of this experimentation was provided by the art-school pop of Roxy Music and, subsequently, by the Punk movement…
Bryars was a member of the Portsmouth Sinfonia - a Scratch Orchestra, derived from the ideas of Cornelius Cardew and formed from untutored musicians. The Sinfonia famously played the Royal Festival hall in 1974. Bryars, an accomplished double-basist was obliged by house-rules to play another instrument…Brian Eno (Roxy Music) was also a member.
Ambient music emerged from attempts to disrupt the cultural norms generally associated with musical performance, whether of orchestral, jazz or pop genres…typically ambient experiments involved looping sounds into structures that transcended the forms of established orchestral norms.
More recently, Jem Finer (Pogues) has created an algorithmic looping musical piece, Longplayer, that won’t repeat itself in 1000 years…Since nearly all musical forms are based on a structure of repetition; that’s pretty disruptive!
Typically, this kind of music has been dismissed as prosaic, and described as muzak…for lifts, and airports, and shopping malls. Brian Eno’s Ambient series, launched in the late 1970s, ironised this critical position. In the end, electronic ambient became part of the pop mainstream during the 1990s by providing a form of recovery from high-energy and drug-fuelled rave culture…
Gavin Bryars has been part of this story since the late 1960s. 
The Ox on the Roof, or Le Boeuf sur le Toit, is a famous Parisian brasserie and jazz club founded in the 1920s. The restaurant was popular with the modern artists (dada and surrealists especially) and jazz musicians of the time…famously, a painting by Francis Picabia (now in the Beaubourg) used to hang above the bar of the restaurant…
The restaurant, opened during 1921, was named after the surrealist ballet by Darius Milhaud and Jean Cocteau (1920). Raoul Dufy designed the sets and costumes for the show…
Le Boeuf sur le Toit is second only to Stravinsky‘s, Rite of Spring (1913) in significance.
Jean Cocteau held court at the restaurant for many years.
Milhaud was originally inspired by the popular street music of Brazil…where he heard a traditional song about the ox on the roof…the full story of Milhaud’s discovery of Brazilian street rhythms has been told by Daniella Thompson.
Milhaud is a crucial figure in the history of modern music. At the beginning of WW2 he moved to America, where he took an academic position at Mills College in Oakland, Ca. Over the years Milhaud helped many young muscians and composers. The list includes Philip Glass and Steve Reich, but also Dave Brubeck and Burt Bacharach.
The French were quick to acknowledge American jazz as an important new form of musical expression for the 20C. Le Boeuf sur le Toit became a famous venue for visiting American musicians. The house band at Le Boeuf was led, from the front, by the piano duetists, Clement Doucet and Jean Wiener.
Doucet is famous, these days for having played for Edith Piaf and for having composed, Chopinata (1924). This is a jazzy interpretation of some piano themes from Chopin. Interestingly, I believe that the original was composed so as to be played on a pianola…and is an early example of machine-music.
Milhaud was a member of the musical group, Les Six…who had direct connections to Piucasso and Miro etc…so full circle again.
Minimalism (Repeat)
Charles Hazelwood is presenting a double-header about US Minimalism in music on BBC4TV.
We watched the first episode yesterday evening, and it was terrific. Hazelwood is looking at four composers, and contrasting the west-coat and New York versions of minimalism that emerged in the 1960s and 1970s.
Hazelwood considers that these American composers; Riley, Lamonte Yoing, Reich, and Glass, provide the platform for the elaboration of 21C orchestral music. Part of this is the implied demise of the European tradition…that’s probably a tad over-stated, but never mind about that.
In California, the form emerged from the avant-garde and experimental, San Fransisco Tape Music Center…and from the first performance of Terry Riley’s, In C (1964). La Monte Young was the other major figure presented from the west-coast. From the first, technology has been instrumental in the deveopment of the form through repetitions and loops.
As always, the cultural geography of California played a crucial part in how the form evolved on the west-coast. Firstly, the Californians look across the Pacific and were open to the unfamiliar forms of Asian music, especially when linked to the transcendental potential of meditative repetitions…The link with emotional values, through transcendentalism, was important in keeping the avant-gardist forms of the music accessible…and in cementing the status of California as a kind of large-form utopian experiment.
Riley’s In C, is constructed from a selection of small parts played in sequence. The music is effectively made by the players and reject the usual top-down imposition of order upon the work. In practice, every performance of the work is completely original. The exact duration of the work is defined by the number of players and the process…
Riley’s work, is often performed in the US by school bands, and can seem a little unconvincing…my preferred version is by Africa Express, and is available on youtube…and reviewed, below (from Pitchfork)
The basic structure of In C is simple: Someone plays a simple, droning pulse on the note C, usually on a piano or marimba, and the other performers, whose number and instrumentation Riley did not specify, have 53 melodic phrases from which to choose. The musicians select the phrases they want to play and decide how long to play them. The effect is that the phrases overlap in unpredictable ways, creating shifts in harmony, evolving polyrhythms, tonal and timbral changes and the sense that nothing is constant, even though the same note repeats insistently under the whole performance at the exact same tempo.
There are dozens of recordings, starting with Riley’s own from 1968. Some are kinetic and exciting, others never seem to come together, but the piece is so dramatically different from performance to performance that it never grows old. Damon Albarn’s Africa Express project, which over the years has fostered collaborations between a huge number of Western and West African musicians puts a decidedly unique spin on In C. With an ensemble of 17 musicians—including Albarn on melodica, Brian Eno, Bijou and Olugbenga on vocals, Jeff Wootton and the Yeah Yeah Yeahs’ Nick Zinner on guitar, Cheick Diallo on flute, Badou Mbaye, Alou Coulibaly and Mouse on Mars’ Andi Toma on percussion, Modibo Diawara and Defily Sako on kora, Guindo Sala on imzad, Kalifa Koné and Mémé Koné on balafon, Adama Koita on kamel n’goni, and André de Ridder on several instruments and conducting—they have an earthy collective sound, and their dynamic interplay is quite distinct from any other version of In C.
For one thing, the non-tonal percussion included in the ensemble layers a dance vibe under the piece’s usual trance vibe. Diallo’s flute in particular is so dissimilar from every other sound on the recording that he stands out and shifts the emphasis briefly to melody, while the three voices lend it an ethereal quality. The mellow tone of the koras, kalimbas, and balafons, meanwhile, have a strange effect during the period cool downs over the course of the piece; they lend it an odd, cool darkness that I usually don’t hear in In C. These passages lend it a suite-like feel where the piece most often is structured as a giant crescendo followed by a long diminuendo. The most bold decision here comes just past the halfway mark, though, when the ensemble goes nearly silent, including the pulse, leaving just guitars and koras playing the slowest melodic phrases in a strange kind of canon, and then we’re treated to a brief spoken word passage (not in English) before the larger ensemble dives back in with even more rhythmic insistence than before.
This willingness to play with the form and shape of an iconic piece of music is one of the things that most fully sets this recording of In C apart from most others. It’s unexpected and enlivens the music just as much as the djembe that lends the evolving beat its weight. The overall form of the piece may be more premeditated than Riley originally intended, rather than the independently reached and unforeshadowed consensus of a large group of musicians, but this mostly serves to make it an engaging performance and worthy interpretation of a piece of music that’s so eternal it could literally be played eternally if someone was able to get musicians to keep showing up to play it. Africa Express keeps it to a bite-sized 41 minutes, and every one of them includes something to savor.
This structural process of elaborating the work was a cross-over from fine-art’s formal experiments of the early 1960s…that sought to combine process and practice; into praxis.
John Cage, Charles Ives and John Adams were all mentioned as parts of the bigger story…as was the link to more recent pop music and the work of Brian Eno, Mike Oldfield, and Portishead…
The programme about minimalism was followed by an equally interesting documentary about British synth pop from the 1970s. Basically, all these ideas came together in Ibiza 30 years later…and played very loud!
The history of the musical avant-garde in the 20C has been written by British composer, Michael Nyman. You can find the text, online, as a pdf.
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[Exclusive] Interview with Lindsay Schoolcraft of Cradle of Filth and 10/31 Soundtrack
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[Exclusive] Interview with Lindsay Schoolcraft of Cradle of Filth and 10/31 Soundtrack
When I learned Lindsay Schoolcraft would be contributing to the soundtrack of Rocky Gray’s upcoming Horror Anthology, 10/31, I had to reach out.
Lindsay and I share mutual friends, growing up only towns apart. And, also being among the few gothic persuasion in our neighbourhood, I followed Lindsay and her rising solo career under the name Schoolcraft, and silently cheered her on in 2013 when she joined iconic dark metal band, Cradle of Filth.  Lindsay continued on with the band, serving as live keys and back-up vocals, as well as contributing the female vocals, keyboard, and harp on the bands’ most recent albums; Hammer of the Witches (2015), and Cryptoriana – The Seductiveness of Decay (2017).
And, with the recent release of Cradle of Filth’s Cryptoriana, her work on a highly anticipated solo album, as well as contributing to the soundtrack of an upcoming horror movie, we had much to discuss! Read on for our exclusive interview with Lindsay Schoolcraft.
Photo by Melissa Matheson.
Nightmare on Film Street: This interview all came about because I stumbled across your involvement in the soundtrack for Rocky Gray’s upcoming Horror Anthology, 10/31. Anything you can tell us about the project?
Lindsay Schoolcraft: Rocky and I have been in talks about collaborating together for quite some time now. We were just waiting for the right opportunity and project to come up. Earlier this year he asked me if I would be interested in doing a song with him on his horror anthology soundtrack. Of course I agreed to it because Rocky and his work with Evanescence has been a huge influence on me since my teens. So far the writing process has gone smoothly. He is easy to work with and trusts my abilities as a writer, which is a huge compliment coming from him.
NOFS: Is this your first forray into Horror? Any interest in contributing to future soundtracks or scores?
LS: This definitely is. It’s also my first contribution to an original track that will be exclusively for a movie. I was trying to pick Rocky’s brain for theme ideas on how to approach the lyrics for this song. I want the listener to fall into a story and give them a sense of storytelling and finding their own perception or take on the story they are hearing. I was asking for what the stories were like in the flick, he said “just make it spooky and open to your own idea”. At first it was difficult, but then the ideas started coming. I am just completing the lyrics over the next few days.
I am slowly getting into the horror world. I’ve never been massively into slasher flicks, I’m more of a sci-fi and fantasy fan. I am looking forward to seeing what Rocky has created with 10/31.
Depending on how well this song is received I would be interested in doing more soundtrack contributions in the future. I find there is less pressure with one track verses doing a whole album and making a group of songs cohesive to one another. There is more freedom in one track.
NOFS: So much of the tone and mood in Horror is set by the particular film’s score a music choices. Do you have any personal favorite scores or soundtracks that inspire you?
LS: Thanks to Dani Filth the Dracula soundtrack has really grown on me. I would have to say the soundtrack that has had the biggest influence on me is from The Queen of The Damned. It’s influenced a lot of my work and never grows old for me.
NOFS: The latest album from Cradle of Filth; Cryptoriana- The Seductiveness of Decay, just dropped last week. What can we expect from the new album?
LS: It’s different then what we’ve done before in many ways. The guys really pushed themselves to compose their best on it. The addition of the choirs is what really ties it together. Also it is one of our more thrash driven albums too. So far the feedback has been great, I’m happy everyone is enjoying it!
NOFS: The recently released Music Video for your single Heartbreak and Seance is a beautiful, moving vignette of classic Victorian, Gothic imagery; soft snow falling among dead trees, wax dripping from the candles of a silent altar. Can you tell us a little bit about the process of creating that video? What was the experience like bringing the single to life?
LS: Oh thank you! It was a magical time and full of great memories. We flew out to Riga, Latvia to work with Arthur Berzinsh, which had done the album artwork for our past two albums. We love his work and he really understands us and what we need visually to match our music. This was definitely the biggest music video production I had been a part of since joining the band. Dani had also mentioned that it was one of the biggest video production that band has had in a long time. The crew and makeup artists were a treat to work with and we made it happen in just two days. I believe after we left there was more filming happening for two days after we left. It shows in the results. I’m really happy I could be a part of it.
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NOFS: Both in the music video and during your stage performances, you always wear such amazing headpieces and unique, gothic inspired fashion. Can you tell us a little bit about your fashion influences?
LS: Oh thank you! The lot of my headdresses are made by Hysteria Machine, but for the new music video I got Morgan Lander of Kittie to design my crystal deer skull headpiece under her line Thelema Crystal Skulls. 
My influence and ideas change every few months. I have definitely been on a long black evening gown kick the past few years, I have a feeling that will change starting mid next year. My dress designs come about with whatever I’m feeling at the time and the influence of the time of year. I find I get more inspiration in the autumn in winter months for my image as apposed to spring in summer where I get more of my musical creativity from.
I usually carry a small sketch book with me on tour and sketch all my ideas into them as they come up. They aren’t the best doodles in the world, but they are passable until I can bring the headdress or the dress to the designers.
NOFS: Your previous album with Cradle of Filth, Hammer of the Witches, was inspired by the infamous persecution of suspected witchcraft. Were there any specific real-life or fictional stories/films that inspired you when creating the album? 
LS: Usually the theme of the music doesn’t come until later and it’s decided by Dani. With Hammer of The Witches we just started writing and picked the best of what came about. Of course there was a theme of darkness with anger and sadness when we wrote that album. In the beginning we never know just what Dani will make the theme. He often needs the music first because he can start getting creative.
NOFS: The Female audience tends to be under-represented in both the Metal and Horror communities, though we make up a growing, significant (and badass) chunk of their fan-bases. Is there any advice you have for those macabre and creative gals who are interested in exploring a darker career-path?
LS: It’s a learn-as-you-go experience so I don’t really know what advice I can offer. You just have to be you and find out what is is that you can uniquely offer with your own little added flair. If you told me 6 years ago that I would be the creepy woman in Cradle of Filth to sing backings and play the keyboard I would have never believed you. But it happened and here we are. I was slowly moving away from the dark fashion and look that I loved so much just before I got the offer to join and then I just got sucked right back into it. It’s definitely been fun to experiment and find my look with makeup though!
NOFS: Speaking of which- what’s it like being the only Female in a Dark Metal band?
LS: It’s nothing different really. Sure, I am a nurturing person and I get sucked into the role of being the “tour mom” with handing out band-aids and being thoughtful and caring when others break themselves. But it’s nice to be a part of something and represent the feminine aspect, which is something I take very seriously considering some people consider me a role model.
NOFS: Do you have any personal favorite Horror Movie Go-To’s on the road?
LS: Would Repo! The Genetic Opera count? It’s pretty much my favourite movie ever!
NOFS: It totally counts. In addition to Cradle of Filth, you are also half of Black Metal duo Antiqva, and release music solo under Schoolcraft. Do you have any projects in the near future you can tease? Also, do you ever find downtime?
LS: Downtime? What’s that? Haha.
Antiqva is coming together, but very slowly. Which isn’t a bad thing because we get to take our time and make sure we are happy with everything we are constructing. I’m honestly very excited about this project. There is a lot of freedom to take my time and experiment and build the orchestral sections as one of the main composers. 
As a solo artist my main debut is almost done being recorded and should be out sometime next year. I think people will freak when they find out who I wrote the album with and who the guest singers are. This has been my biggest accomplishment as a song writer so far. It’s the music I have always wanted to make and I think the fans will really dig it. I did my best to be as honest and humble as possible when creating this album. I wanted to tell stories and really pull the listener into the songs. It’s been a long journey and we are finally starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
As for free time though: I mainly just play around on my harp or watch cartoons. Of course I’m still slowly self teaching myself the wonderful world of makeup artistry. I’ve also been slowly piecing together new song for my next solo release. It’s a never ending process.
NOFS: Where can readers of Nightmare on Film Street find and follow more from you?
LS: You can find me on Instagram, Twitter, and Tumblr. My Facebook page is www.facebook.com/Schoolcraftofficial  And don’t forget to check out 10/31’s indiegogo campaign at http://igg.me/at/1031movie
  Cradle of Filth’s latest album, Cryptoriana: The Seductiveness of Decay is available now. The band will be kicking off their European Tour in the Late Fall. Tour details can be found here.  Horror Anthology 10/31 is currently funding on Indiegogo with a little over a week remaining.
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