It wasn't really unusual at all for Russians to train in the US so long as it was with a Russian coach. Linichuk moved to the US in 1994 and coached Grishuk/Platov, Krylova/Ovsiannikov, Lobacheva/Averbukh, Domnina/Shabalin, etc. Ilinykh/Katsalapov worked with Igor and Marina when they were younger and Morozov also coached in New Jersey.
i should have said interesting that they were training here that recently. i was under the impression that it was a different, older generation of skaters that moved here to train and often to stay. so i was surprised that S/K were in Michigan as late as 2016. there are still a lot of Russian dance coaches in the US, but zero teams competing for Russia here, and it was such a big deal when Zhenya came to Cricket Club to train, that i didn't realize the shift happened that recently
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The Flutzels podcast is defending Diana Davis saying she’s getting too much hate online for being her daughter’s mother and that sure, nepotism may be a factor in her rise but ice dance scoring is ridiculous this season anyway and that her placement in competitions is close to where they’d have her anyway, maybe off by a place or two 👀 and that they, the podcasters are daughters of a teacher and know what it is to have people be upset with them because of their mother. For me, that’s a ludicrous defense, since a place or two changes podium placements and who’s potentially getting sent to the Olympics. They also said that feds are amoral (not immoral but amoral) and will do what gets them the best result, so since Diana is getting good scores internationally why wouldn’t they send her. I don’t understand int’l judging enough to know this, but international judging isn’t happening in a vacuum uninfluenced by the feds is it? I’m just surprised they’re shrugging off the nepotism. “A place or two” matters a whole lot to the team or two who were displaced by them
I'm going to trade carefully here because pissing off the ignorant and hypocritical parts of fs twitter was enough for one week I'd say LOL.
The way I see it, there are a few issues that I personably have with what they are saying:
Diana is for sure getting more hate than necessary on social media, the rise of nepotism #2 is shameful and underserved but she is 18 and a lot of the hate she's getting stems from her mother being a horrible human (from what we know). Her results are underserved but blaming her for it and hating her personally for it is also not the right way to handle the situation.
"off by a place or two" is a statement that is worthless. It wasn't just about the placement, it was also about the scoring. It we'll go with this statement and place them behind even just 0.01 points behind nepotism #1, it means that their score will drop 11.06 points. So are we really going to pretend that it's just a problem of placement? come on.
Also, one single place lower would change who goes to the Olympics? It's really not something to shrug about.
This is the egg and the chicken story all over again - what came first? Eteri and the RusFed pushing hard for them so they were getting insane international scores or the international judges just waking up one day and deciding that D/S are a top-level team who deserve scores of top 10 in the world. let's not kid ourselves here, there's a huge push for D/S that is troubling because it shows the reach Eteri (and by proxy now Igor) has on international judges.
The Fed will do whatever brings them the best results, that doesn't mean they don't work very hard to create the results they want.
This is seen as such a big issue that the Russian dance world itself had a huge reaction to it. From the comments of Skoptcova's mother, to Skoptcova herself (looking shaky, crying at the end of her skate looking upset, then posting a pic of her crying stating that "it wouldn't hurt if she didn't love the sport so much), to Khuda/Bazin's comments, to Annable's Morozov's face in the k&c, to team Zhuk and Morozov merging to form a political alliance, to Z/G competing in a desperate state, to the crowd legit booing the scores of Z/G compared to D/S. Everyone is seeing what's happening here (hell even Jackie Wong publicly called their placement).
And honestly? I feel for them if they endured hardship because of their perceived nepotism. But you know who has it harder in life? people with no nepotism or connections...
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2021 - 2022 Russian Senior National Team
Ladies
Kamila Valieva
Alexandra Trusova
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
Daria Usacheva
Maiia Kromykh
Anna Shcherbakova
Ladies Reserve
Alena Kostornaia
Elizaveta Nugamanova
Men
Makar Ignatov
Mikhail Kolyada
Mark Kondratyuk
Andrei Mozalev
Alexander Samarin
Evgeni Semenenko
Men’s Reserve
Dmitri Aliev
Petr Gumenik
Artur Danielan
Pairs
Anastasia Mishina / Alexander Galliamov
Alexandra Boikova / Dmitrii Kovlovskii
Evgenia Tarasova / Vladimir Morozov
Yasmina Kadryova / Ivan Balchenko
Daria Pavliuchenko / Denis Khodkyin
Apollinaria Panfliova / Dmitry Rylov
Pairs Reserve
Karina Akapova / Nikita Rakhmanin
Iulila Artemeva / Mikhail Nazarychev
Alina Pepelva / Roman Pleshkov
Ice Dance
Viktoria Sinitsina / Nikita Katsalapov
Alexandra Stepanova / ivan Bukin
Tiffani Zagorski / Jonathan Gurreiro
Anastasia Skoptcova / Kirill Aleshin
Elizaveta Khudaiberdieva / Egor Bazin
Sofia Shevchenko / Igor Eremenko
Ice Dance Reserve
Diana Davis / Gleb Smolkin
Annabelle Morozov / Andrei Bagin
Elizaveta Shanaeva / Devid Naryzhnyy
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Ice Dance Programs 2023-24
Misato Komatsubara/Tim Koleto 🇯🇵JPN
RD: Ghostbusters
FD: Loving You (from Passion) Barbara Streisand & Patrick Wilson; Love Grows (from Final Fantasy VIII) Nobuo Uematsu (choreo: Romain Haguenauer)
Azusa Tanaka/Shingo Nishiyama 🇯🇵JPN
FD: choreo Romain Haguenauer
Nadiia Bashynska/Peter Beaumont 🇨🇦CAN
RD: INXS, Never Tear Us Apart; Duran Duran, Wild Boys
Miku Makita/Tyler Gunara 🇨🇦CAN
FD: choreo by Matthew Gates
Alicia Fabbri/Paul Ayer 🇨🇦CAN
RD: AC/DC, choreo Zach Donohue
FD: Lewis Capaldi, Someone You Loved
Sandrine Gauthier/Quentin Thieren 🇨🇦CAN
RD: Joan Jett, I Love Rock n Roll
Emma Goodstadt/Christian Bennett 🇨🇦CAN (Jrs)
RD: B-52’s, Love Shack
Hannah Lim/Ye Quan 🇰🇷KOR
RD: Prince, When Doves Cry, Let's Go Crazy
FD: Umbrellas of Cherbourg
Emilea Zingas/Vadym Kolesnik 🇺🇸USA
RD and FD choreo: Benoit Richaud
Emily Bratti/Ian Somerville 🇺🇸USA
RD: Prince, When Doves Cry, Let’s Go Crazy
FD: Celine Dion, Ne Me Quitte Pas
choreo by Greg Zuerlein, Charlie White, Tanith White
Eva Pate/Logan Bye 🇺🇸USA
RD: Bobby Brown, My Prerogative; Run-DMC (feat. Aerosmith) Walk This Way
Katarina Wolfkostin/Dimitry Tsarevski 🇺🇸USA
RD: When in Rome, The Promise; Blondie, Call Me
Isabella Flores/Ivan Desyatov 🇺🇸USA
RD: Prince, When Doves Cry; Def Leppard, Pour Some Sugar on Me, choreo Massimo Scali
FD: West Side Story, choreo Kaitlyn Weaver
Angela Ling/Caleb Wein 🇺🇸USA
RD: Aretha Franklin, Hold on I'm Coming
Raffaella Koncius/Alexey Shchepetov 🇺🇸USA
RD: Stray Cats, Rock this Town, Stray Cat Strut
Klara Kowar/Thomas Schwappach 🇺🇸USA
RD: INXS, Never Tear Us Apart, What You Need
FD: James Bond
Leah Neset/Artem Markelov 🇺🇸USA (jrs)
RD: Scorpions, Still Loving You; Joan Jett, Hate Myself for Loving You. choreo Kaitlyn Weaver
FD: choreo Nikolai Morozov
Eliana Peal/Ethan Peal 🇺🇸USA (jrs)
RD: Janet Jackson, What Have You Done For Me Lately, Rhythm Nation
FD: Lord of the Rings
Jenna Hauer/Benjaming Starr 🇺🇸USA (jrs)
RD: Tina Turner, Simply the Best (?)
Caroline Mullen/Brendan Mullen 🇺🇸USA (jrs)
RD: Wham!, Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go; George Michael, Father Figure (?)
Yahli Pederson/Jeffrey Chen 🇺🇸USA (jrs)
RD: Queen, Kind of Magic; Queen w David Bowie, Under Pressure (?)
Evgeniia Lopareva/Geoffrey Brissaud 🇫🇷FRA
FD: choreo Guillaume Cizeron
Holly Harris/Jason Chan 🇦🇺AUS
RD: Madonna (Material Girl, Express Yourself?), choreo: Marie-France Dubreuil
FD: choreo Marie-France Dubreuil
Olivia Smart/Tim Dieck 🇪🇸ESP
RD: Blondie, Call Me, Rapture
Sofia Val/Asaf Kazimov 🇪🇸ESP
RD: Top Gun
Jennifer Janse van Rensburg/Benjamin Steffan 🇩🇪GER
RD: Beds are Burning, Midnight Oil; Don't Leave Me Now, Supertramp; Runaway, Bon Jovi
FD: wild west theme
choreo: Pasquale Camerlengo for both
Phebe Bekker/James Hernandez 🇬🇧GBR
RD: Prince
FD: Muse
Layla Karnes/Liam Carr 🇬🇧GBR
RD: Sweet Dreams, medley, Eurhythmics
FD: Hit the Road Jack, 2WEI
Shira Ichilov/Dmitriy Kravchenko 🇮🇱ISR
RD: Get Down on It, Yesterday, It's Raining Men
FD: ("to a singer from Montreal")
choreo: Pasquale Camerlengo, Igor Shpilband
Mariia Nosovitskaya/Misha Nosovytskyi 🇮🇱ISR
RD:
FD: Gladiator
choreo: Pasquale Camerlengo, Igor Shpilband
Elizabeth Tkachenko/Alexei Kiliakov 🇮🇱ISR
RD: Yello, Oh Yeah, Desire, The Race
FD: Incantation, Ojo Azules; Inca the Peruvian Ensemble, Danzante Vasija del Barro; Inti-IllMani, Sikuriadas
choreo: Elena Novak, Jimmie Manners
Yuka Orihara/Juho Pirinen 🇫🇮 FIN
RD: choreo Luca Lanotte
FD: music from Chicago
choreo Massimo Scali
Carolane Soucisse/Shane Firus 🇮🇪IRL
RD: Rick James, Super Freak, Give It To Me Baby, Mary Jane
Mariia Holubtsova/Kyryl Bielobrov 🇺🇦UKR
RD: Bonnie Tyler, Holding Out For A Hero; Bonnie Tyler & Bryan Adams, Straight From the Heart; Bonnie Tyler & Desmond Child, If You Were a Woman (And I Was a Man)
FD: Joe Hisaishi, Merry Go Round of Life, Fragile Dream, A Walk in the Skies
choreo: Romain Haguenauer, Pascal Denis, Sam Chouinard
Zoe Larson/Andrii Kapran 🇺🇦UKR
RD: Pointer Sisters, I'm So Excited; Grover Washington/Bill Withers, Just the Two of Us; The Weather Girls, It's Raining Men (?)
Adrienne Carhart/Oleksandr Kolosovskyi 🇦🇿AZE
RD: Billy Ocean, Caribbean Queen
Maria Kazakova & Georgy Reviya 🇬🇪GEO RD: Queen, A Kind of Magic, Save Me, I Want To Break Free, Need Your Loving Tonight FD: Schindler's List choreo by Matteo Zanni
Natalie Taschlerova & Filip Taschler 🇨🇿CZE RD: Janet Jackson, The Knowledge; James Mtume, Juicy Fruit; The Pointer Sisters, Serious Slammin' FD: Negramaro, Bluecobalto; Havasi, Terra Rosa; Giuliano Sangiorgi, Son Felice choreo by Matteo Zanni
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