#JACK AZAZEL FAN…..Please…..Save me

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consider the following. Jack quicksilver enjoyer

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001 Supernatural

Okay, please keep in mind I haven’t watched this show in years: 

Favorite character: Charlie Bradbury. 

Least Favorite character: What my friend has told me about it would Jack Kline (I had to google his last name). 

5 Favorite ships (canon or non-canon): All the characters get better writing and the female characters don’t get killed off. (I know that’s not any ships but I don’t have five ships tbh so I’m filling this text with a not unpopular opinion.) 

Character I find most attractive: Meg Masters.

Character I would marry: Charlie Bradbury. 

Character I would be best friends with: Jody Mills 

a random thought: They should get a dog. 

An unpopular opinion: I wish the show would have reverted back to hunting and small cases instead how are the brothers and their friends going to (endanger then) save the world for how many times is it? (I really enjoy folklore and myths.) 

My Canon OTP: I’m pretty sure none of my ships were canon or if they were there were only the hints at it. 

My Non-canon OTP: Dean/Cas. I admittedly was frustrated at the two of them though last I was watching the show. 

Most Badass Character: I honestly can’t remember who I thought it was. 

Most Epic Villain: Either Dick Roman, Azazel, or Lilith. 

Pairing I am not a fan of: Sam/Ruby or Dean/Ruby. 

Character I feel the writers screwed up (in one way or another): All of them? But especially the female ones from what I remember.

Favourite Friendship: Dean and Charlie’s. 

Character I most identify with: It’s a mix of Dean, Sam, and Charlie. 

Character I wish I could be: I don’t know tbh. 

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Thoughts about Spn 13x02

SPOILERS! SPOILERS! SPOILERS!

Trigger warning for mentions of self-harm and suicide

I felt asleep on the sofa. Don’t mention it.

Ah Bucklemming. On the plus side: they didn’t kill off a fan favourite. On the down side: everything else? It just felt like exposition, exposition, expostion, that really cool thing Dean did with the angel blade, expostion. Like a big info dump instead of an episode, with a weird cutting between the scenes, and the usual awkward dialogues (do they even read their scripts? Do they think actual people talk like this?). I mean we had worse from them, but it always saddens me to see in one week how great this show can be (13x01) and then we have this. I don’t think there was much to learn about the characters, at least nothing we didn’t already know, so I will focus a bit more on the mytharc stuff and what we could possible see in this season.

Bizarro World

In which Mary lands in apocalypse world and her hair still looks better than mine *sigh*. I really hope they kill of Lucifer, simply because the guy (and the dude who plays him) likes to hear himself talk. And is it just me but I think the reason why he keeps Mary alive doesn’t really make sense? He wants her as a trade for his son, but a trade doesn’t sound like Lucifer. Like, at all. I assumed he would just take Jack with him, and needed Mary to get back to our world. And by now I’m not sure iof Jack even wanted to be reunited with Lucifer, but maybe Dean’s behaviour will get him there? Believing his father is the only one who cares about him? (And does he? Don’t give this character feelings or a redemption arc, please don’t)

So, we learned a few new things about bizarro world. Appearently women are hard to find, which turned all men into rapists, because Bucklemming can’t write an episode without any sort of sexual assault in it. Angels dress up like soldiers, and Michael is cosplaying Cas. And he doesn’t kill Lucifer because he needs him, hopefully not for another trade. But why though? I wonder if this Micheal regrets killing Lucifer, because the big endfight didn’t bring paradise on earth like promised. Now he is stuck in an eternal warzone and maybe that is why he needs Lucifer to fix it? Also, look at these screencapes from the Shaving things promo: (credit to @postmodernmulticoloredcloak)

That looks like a cage to me. Is this some sort of ritual? Let me hear your thoughts.

Asmodeus

I already don’t like him. Dude looks like a comic book villian in his white suit and his accent makes it hard for me to understand what he says. I had a hard time understanding why he would wanted Lucifer and Jack to return, especially after he told stunt demon number three how Lucifer humiliated him, but at the end the picture got clearer. Asmodeus is out for revenge, and he tries to get Jack in order to help him achive his goal (the same way Crowley wanted to use Amara, and we all know how that ended). He asks (as Donatello) Sam about two things: Jack’s powers and his relationship to Lucifer. What he learns: Jack might be one day even more powerfull than Lucifer and he barely knows his father. Bucklemming are not very subtle with it, but you can see the direction in which this is going and why Asmodeus won’t stop to manipulate Jack.

Other than that Asmodeus was used to introduce a whole lot of new stuff to the show’s mythology. In true Bucklemming fashion they just created new stuff instead of working within the existing mythology, to make the story they wanted to tell work. I hated it.

So, appearently Princes of Hell can shapeshift, which from now on will have us second guessing everyone who even looks at Jack. Also, there is another gate of hell, a special one, because why not? Makes Azazel’s big plan in season 2 kind of redundant. And now there are the Shedim, who will probably play a bigger role in this season. They are actually quite interesting, at least if you look at their wikipedia entry:

Shedim are said to have had the feet and claws of a rooster and share some characteristics both of human and angels. Like angels, they know the future and have wings, but like humans they eat, drink, procreate and die. [...] The shedim are not always seen as malicious creatures and are also considered to be helpful to humans.

That... sounds like Jack? not the rooster part of course, but: both human and angel? Check. Knows the future (his vision in 12x19) and has wings (can teleport)? Check. Eats and drinks (and sleeps)? Check. Helpful to humans? Check. But also:

Asmodeus is a king of demons [...]. In Jewish and Islamic lore he is the king of the demons (Shedim/Jinn).

Asmodeus is already linked to the Shedim, he wants to free them, but he also wants to free Jack (”Jack, they wanna stop you. Contain you”).

Nougat

Can someone just like hug him? Kid needs a hug. A lot of what we saw was a continuation of 13x01: Sam thinks Jack can be good, Dean thinks he’s the devil. Nature vs nuture (and thanks Bucklemming for letting Donatello spelling it out, it’s not like every meta writer came to this conclusion since may this year). So far the jury is still out. What we know is that Jack is powerfull, enough to draw Donatello to him, and that he will become more powerfull. But his powers still don’t seem like a part of him, he has no control over them. He uses them unknowingly during times of emotional stress: when he is afraid, or hurting, or angry. He needs to learn to understand his emotions and how his powers are influenced by them, or else he ends up like the next Anakin Skywalker. (@margarittet wrote a great meta about the connections between Star Wars and what we could possible see in season 13, go read it).

Jack is still paralled a lot to his foster dad Cas. We start the episode with him sleeping in the back of the car like Cas did in 5x22, he enjoys TV the way Cas does (Scooby Doo, so you can bet Jack is somehow causing Scoobynatural) and he desperately wants Dean’s approveal. Mimicking Dean? That is what Cas has been doing for years. His whole manuael on how to be human is to act like Dean. And what is the first thing Dean teaches him about being human? that pain is being part of it. Because at the moment Dean is nothing but hurting.

There was a short moment where Jack rembered Lucifer reaching out to him, which was quite interesting, because if anything Jack seemed afraid of him. Donatello tells us that his power is not dark or toxic like Lucifer’s was, but then again power is just power, neither good or bad.

Sam tells Jack that he believes he is worth saving, like his mother and Cas did. Unlike them Sam though was never influenced by Jack. His faith in him is genuine. Also, with all the brainwashing talk, we should remember that Kelly already loved her son before 12x19. She wanted to keep him, to raise him, to take care of him. It was only after she learned that she wouldn’t be able to do so, and that Dagon would twist him into something evil, that she decided to take her life. At least when it comes to Kelly I like to believe she and Jack influenced each other in equal parts. “I was her”.

So what is Jack to the Winchesters? In the tattoo parlour Sam says they are brothers, that the tattoo is a family crest. But the tattoo vanishes, and though it is unintentional on Jack’s side it is rather symbolic. He is not a part of the Winchester family (yet). Later he calls them his friends.

The ending scene was pretty heavy. Jack doesn’t know who he is. More so, he is afraid to find out, that he will hurt everyone around him and can’t be saved. It was an interesting choice that Dean stopped him. Dean, who never believed he deserved to be saved, not after hell or the MoC. And he tells Jack the same. And I get where Dean was coming from, why he said, but that doesn’t make it OK. Dean telling Jack he will be the one to kill him makes me believe the opposite now, that Dean will die for Jack (who will bring him back of course).

Also, when Jack read the bible we saw The Book of Solomon opening:

Jewish tradition reads it as an allegory of the relationship between God and Israel. Christian tradition, in addition to appreciating the literal meaning of a romantic song between man and woman, has read the poem as an allegory of Christ and his "bride", the Christian Church.

Now, I already speculated about Jack’s fate on the show. If he turns out to be good where will be his place in the universe? I could see him replacing God, and him reading a text about the relationship between God and his chosen people? Interesting.

Anyway, “What would Mr. Rogers do?” is a motto we should all live by.

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Supernatural | 13.03 Review

Supernatural -  Patience

Unfortunately this episode wasn’t as entertaining to watch as the first two episodes in this season. There are several problems in this one and it’s difficult to find moments that actually worked. Quite a few scenes here just made me think: who thought that would be a good idea for an episode?

Things that didn’t work for me:

The teaser was one of the most boring episode intros in a long while. I understand that after 250+ episode it becomes difficult to find an interesting way to murder someone without any build up or character depth, but come on. Neither the writing, the acting or the directing were really good. It was just... there, and gave us the face of the MotW.

How to not start a spinoff: the first impression of the Wayward Sisters spinoff this episode was quite flat and straight forward without any real interesting themes. Patience is a talented, pretty girl with psychic powers who’s loved by everyone. Nothing in this episode made me want to learn more about her though, since we sort of know already a lot about her? That her mother died, that her father was angry at his own mother and that Patience didn’t have much contact to her grandmother as a result, that she never knew she had these powers until now, and that she’ll be busy with calculus for now. And since her powers aren’t that special or new on this show it’s difficult to get interested in whatever could happen next.

The monster of this week’s episode was equally flat. While it was nice to see a wraith again after such a long time if feels like the writer didn’t really know what to do with the monster. It could have been any monster. The only reason it probably was chosen was that its habit to feed on brain juice gave it a reason to focus on psychics. But I’ve almost wanted to laugh when the wraith kidnapped Patience and then give her a villain speech. It’s so cliché...

The fight in Patience’s vision had a wraith kill three people in a short time, and I think that was just really over the top? Like, a lot? Why couldn’t it have been only her dad that needed saving? After having killed antagonists like Azazel, Eve, Dick Roman, Abaddon and Cain you really want to tell me that Dean Winchester would get taken down just like that? And that only these tiny little shout outs from Patience suddenly change the whole playing field? I’m not buying it.

Jody being a know-it-all and not even waiting a minute before telling Patience to ignore Dean’s advice. Why? Because you know so much about growing up in the hunter life, Jody? Because it turned out so well for Claire and Alex? Without Sam and Dean Alex would most likely be a vampire by now, Claire would be dead or a werewolf, and Jody herself wouldn’t be alive anymore. So these guys probably know what they’re talking about. And Dean didn’t tell Patience to pretend to be someone she’s not. He advised her to continue with her old life, and why shouldn’t she do so? When we meet Claire again after years, she’s in a  juvenile center and has no real idea what happened to her mother. There is an understandable reason for her to be rebellious and to search for answers. She was in a completely different position than Patience, and even for Claire it’s not very smart to run around, hunting alone. Patience has zero experience in hunting, and you can’t count on her contacting you just because you met once? You might want to slow these kids down a bit.

The Sam & Jack interactions were basically just copy & paste from the last two episodes, and looking at this post made me realise it’s also basically copy & paste from American Nightmare. Sam trying to teach Jack some stuff or trying to figure out what he can do is not a bad idea in general, but getting impatient when Jack can’t move the pencil seems not in line with Sam’s attitude towards Jack up until now. It feels forced because now there’s a reason for Jack to believe that Sam really just wants to use him. Especially since Sam of all people would not tell Jack to imagine how it felt when Asmodeus was in Jack’s head in an non-ooc-scenario . And that on scene where Sam can’t see Jack on the screen anymore... that was a bit too much and over the top. The guy is half human, be just could have left the room for a little moment. And he just mentioned that he feels uncomfortable that Sam’s constantly watching him? So yeah... relax, Sam. And relax, background music.

Dean apparently not having any other plot than mourning the death of his mother and friend and getting angry and aggressive as a result. Why do the writers have to make him so two-dimensional? It’s understandable that he doesn’t want to care for Jack (why should he), he probably doesn’t have anything left to invest in Jack right now. And we’ve seen his distrust of Jack already in season 12 before the kid was even born. But can the brothers please find a strategy? As it is now it’s silly, and the arguments of the brothers aren’t moving forward either. They’re having basically the same conversation in all three episodes now, just each time a bit more angry. How long will they continue like this before one of them leaves again for a while? 

Sam not showing any grief at all regarding Mary’s death. He probably is just burrowing himself in work to avoid thinking about it, but it would be nice to see that, or at least to reference it? His dedication to raising Jack to be a good guy is honourable, and we’ve seen Sam caring for people who are different in some way before - for example for Magda in American Nightmare, Amy Pond in The Girl Next Door, Olivia in Ask Jeeves, Jesse in I Believe the Children Are Our Future ... which makes it even more glaring in retrospect that he didn’t gave Emma a chance at all - the decision to kill her took him less than a minute. What even was that? I can’t help but remembering that when seeing how he cares for Jack.

Castiel is back and not gone for good - yay. What a big surprise... nobody saw that one coming. Which makes his death quite meaningless again, and all the current emotions and discussions his death caused can be soon replaced with an whatever-attitude. Why ishe looking like Jimmy btw, even in the Empty?

The Empty itself is... I don’t know what I expected. It’s probably best if they really just have it be an empty black nothing, because otherwise they’d find a way to make it look stupid. Is it normal for angels to go into the Empty, btw? Do they hang out there for eternity?

Things that were okay:

Missouri Moseley didn’t bother me as I feared she would, so that was a positive surprise. But despite not being her biggest fan I don’t like that they killed her off. I understand it was for the sake of Patience’s story, but that doesn’t help. But still: Missouri, stop reading people’s thoughts without asking. It was shitty back in season 1, and it’s the same in season 13.

Jack is a good character as he was in the two episodes before. I really do care about his story, and I don’t want him to feel bad all the time. I just wish the brothers would get a wider range of emotions too.

Dean got to actually kill the MotW. I just wish it could have worked without dying in a vision before...

Going from here... (spoiler warning)

Guessing from this episode and what I’ve read about future episode plots my guess would be that Jack brings back Castiel somehow. Castiel ends up making a deal with Lucifer and exchanges Jack for Mary. Jack would probably agree just to give Sam and Dean their mother back. At least at this point Dean realises that Jack is someone worth saving and they set out to get him back.

Next: The Big Empty (spoiler warning)

The next episode seems to feature a ghost story and introduces Jack to the concept of someone coming back from the dead. That’s probably relevant for him possibly bringing Castiel back from that boring black room.