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hallwyeoo · 2 years

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🚨SPOILERS FOR END OF TLOU1 & TLOU2🚨

“Joels decision at the end of tlou1 was justified. His death was completely uncalled for” WROOOOOOOOOOOOONG. Incorrect! Joel’s decision is UNDERSTANDABLE, not justified. There’s a significant difference between the two. Joel also knew when he saved Ellie that he was signing his death warrant. He was fine with it because it meant he got more time with her, and because she’d be alive. Joel is a very flawed person, and while no one deserves to die (especially not in the way he did) it wasn’t uncalled for. It was a necessary narrative decision! I cannot see a way tlou2 could’ve existed with Joel alive.

#also like.#Joel completely disregards Ellie’s autonomy by saving her #and KNOWS it’s not what she would want #because he immediately lies to her #and tells her that her immunity means nothing.#aka everything they’ve been thru and the people they’ve lost- it was all for nothing #she NEEDED to be the cure. she made it her meaning #ellie has a severe case of survivors guilt #and Joel lying to her not only eats at their trust and relationship but also actively eats at her #in their final convo he aknowledges that he hurt her but that he would do it again because he cares so much about her #and she tells him the truth. I don’t think I can ever forgive you for that #BUT ID LIKE TO TRY!#Ellie wasn’t being dramatic when she found out! it was genuinely destroying her inside #and she CARES about him.#so she’s willing to try! but she’s not there yet and she can’t tell him he’s forgiven #only give them a chance to rebuild.#it hurts and it’s so good.#ellie tlou #tlou1 #tlou2 #tlou2 spoilers #tlou1 spoilers #joel and ellie #joel miller #ellie williams #OH ALSO Joel fully believed the cure was real and possible DO NOT try and erase the moral dilemma because ‘waaa the cure wouldn’t be viable’#let characters not be completely perfect goddamnit!#complexity is interesting!!!#you don’t have to hate a character if they’re not perfectly justified 100% of the time!

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