#Lloyd Russell-Moyle

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MPs unite in debate on funding for hospice

This morning is the first day of Parliament following the nearly three-week break. According to ‘TheyWorkForYou’ Parliament will be open until the end of May when it closes for a further week. There are very few public listings in Parliament and the House of Lords during closure periods but some Parliament business that occurs during these periods is that of written questions with a few raised by…

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Labour MP takes up scandal of the 9.8 million men who got free national insurance credits while women got nothing

Lloyd Russell – Moyle MP : Pic Credit: Labour South East A Labour MP is challenging Mel Stride, the Work and Pensions Secretary, to ” correct the imbalance ” that allowed up to 9.8 million men to claim free national insurance contributions from the state while 50s born women were stopped from claiming anything. He is the first MP to raise this issue, disclosed on this blog three years ago,…

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fucking fuming about cass report but not surprised, been analysing this movement for years now. mostly incredibly pissed st*rmer has decided to accept all the reccomendations - including banning transition until age fucking 25. i want to unalive wes fucking streeting. they are yet again using trans lives , as well as course as palestinian lives, as fucking pawns in the game of posturing as 'the most calm and rational and leaderly'. if anyone needs links or help with diy-ing i can maybe link you up. probably gonna have to join you lot imminently (i got on the waitlist at 21 ish, I am now 24.5 . 6 months ago i started pursuing informed consent with the one fucking gp in the country that does that, but the horrible disorganisation of the gp practice has ground to halt and i am gonna have to move away from here asap anyway.)

anyway unless your local candidate is on the proper left of the labour party (the zarah sultana, lloyd russel-moyle, clive lewis-es) I do not understand how you can in good conscious vote this fucking itteration of the party

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terfs: femininity is evil and must be abolished from society in all its forms for the female sex to ever be liberated

you: this means terfs love femininity and think women ought to follow the rules of femininity :) i am very smart

Except the most prominent TERF figureheads are actually super pro femininity, as is the average TERF. Like... to such an extent I'm a bit alarmed you don't notice.

There have been multiple instances of butch lesbians and GNC women being harassed in bathrooms by TERFs because they don't look feminine enough:

Butch lesbian opens up about 'increasing harassment' she faces when she uses public toilets (inews.co.uk)

Woman, 22, barred from ladies toilets in M&S after staff mistook her for a man  | Daily Mail Online

Butch Woman Are Facing Transphobia In Public Toilets (refinery29.com)

And TERFs just straight up wanting butch women out of their spaces for the same reasons:

The most prominent figureheads of the anti trans movement in the UK include Baroness Nicholson, who is a member of the House of Lords, and is homophobic and anti choice:

She also links gay marriage to trans existence. Basically she's transphobic because she's homophobic. She also personally engaged with me RE the abortion thing and said that dropping the limit to 12 weeks was intended to stop 3rd tri abortions, which a) start way after 12 weeks, b) are 1% of all abortions, and c) happen either because there was no abortion access in 2nd tri or because most brain development happens in 3rd and so the parent(s) found out the foetus wasn't viable in 3rd tri. She wants to force people who have found out their foetus will not survive outside the womb to be forced to carry to term and birth a stillborn, instead of aborting it weeks earlier.

Kellie-Jay Keen, meanwhile, everyone's favourite tomato soup flavoured hatemonger and far right mouthpiece, has said that teenage girls shouldn't have access to birth control, and that Gillick competency should be revoked. Gillick is meant to assess medical competency in teens, meaning that teenagers in certain situations can make their own medical choices. I personally have Gillick rights to thank for me not becoming a mother at 13 years old, following my being gangraped by my 'boyfriend' and his friends, and Gillick competency letting me get an abortion. If not for Gillick, my dad would have made me see through the pregnancy, and Kellie wants Gillick gone because if teenagers can get birth control, they can get puberty blockers. Funny enough, my pregnancy was also following precocious puberty, where my GP recommended that I, a cis girl, take blockers, and my dad refused. Cis kids actually make up the majority of kids on blockers due to precocious puberty, and they get blockers without issue in most cases, it's just trans kids that have these issues getting a normal medication.

Lloyd Russell-Moyle MP🌹🏳️‍🌈 on Twitter: "Veil slips: Kellie-Jay Keen (aka Posie Parker) says girls/young women shouldn’t access reproductive service without parent permission. Rolling back women’s rights. That’s what “gender critical” is folks - first they come for trans then they come for you. https://t.co/TkWsLTc1eM" / Twitter

She also talks, in this clip, about how 'parents need to take back control of their children'. At several rallies she's said (incorrectly) that 'her side' are older women, and the women on the pro trans side are all young, and that the young women 'will become us' as in older conservative bigots. Not only is this blatantly incorrect, given the sheer number of pro trans older people who exist, but it is yet another reason that Kellie doesn't want kids to have rights. Because she thinks anyone under 40 will grow out of being empathetic to minorities.

This tweet was in response to a cisgender woman with short hair going to a rape survivor's group wearing jeans. This caused a TERF in that group to assume she was a trans man and try and get her kicked out, and then the TERF was barred instead:

Again, this woman had short hair and wore jeans. That's it.

Here's another TERF saying that as her trans daughter is in STEM, she's a man. Pushing that fake narrative about how girls can't be scientists like any good feminist would:

Meanwhile, here are 2 garden variety TERFs offering a list of things that help them ID trans women:

Note the second one, which lists feminine face, gait, demeanour, and voice. Because according to this person, there is a certain way to look, act, and speak feminine. And I had to throw in the first one because it lists 'skin lightness' and 'skull size' as a feminine trait. TERFs never beating the racism allegations.

And speaking of racism allegations, here's Sharron Davies, star of the TERF movement, saying that all of the WOC who won at the Olympics are really men:

And someone saying the quiet part out loud here:

And here's another famous TERF showing what her priorities are in the wake of Roe v Wade:

And on a personal level, here are a list of reasons TERFs have told me, a cis woman, that I am really a trans woman and lying about the cis part:

My nose is too big

My jaw is too square

My chin is too prominent

My forehead is too large

My shoulders are too wide. The person who said this also asked if it was hard to no longer be able to 'play linebacker on the men's team'. I am told this is related to rugby.

My most worn outfit is a button down shirt and jeans. Apparently I have a 'prominent bulge'. So for a cis woman my dick is huge.

My necklines are too high

My necklines are too low (and no woman would show that much of her breasts)

My teeth are crooked

I put 'MA' in my twitter handle after graduating my Masters and no 'real woman' would brag about her academic achievements.

I am a PhD student. This was somehow enough of an indicator that I was trans for someone to call me the t slur.

I argued, at length, in favour of trans people. Apparently a real woman wouldn't argue as much as I did, and the fact I was persistent in pushing my points indicated that I was a man.

I was on the radio, and my voice was low and raspy.

I stood next to a friend, also a cis woman, in a photo, and I was larger than her (because she's a UK size 6 and I'm a UK 10)

My clavicles are straight????

TERFs are strictly enforcing femininity at the expense of women's rights, like the right to healthcare/birth control/abortion. They are showing open contempt for women who don't fit their loose, objective ideal of what a woman is, and making GNC cis women feel that bit less safe in women's spaces because they don't look the way TERFs think they should. They are most likely doing this because the money and power behind the TERF movement is conservative men, including groups like CPAC, who sponsored Kellie's latest tour.

You personally might love birth control and abortion and defying gender roles, and good for you, but if you're a TERF, a radfem, a GC, whatever you want to call yourself, you've aligned yourself with a movement that want women back in the kitchen and back in the alley, staffed by conservatives and keyboard warriors who are just waiting for someone, anyone, to stick their head above the parapet and do something 'unwomanly' or 'unfeminine' so they can invalidate your entire life experience and argument. I, as a woman, very simply refuse to let a bunch of racist, anti choice, conservatives speak for me. If you want that, best of luck to you, but I won't stop calling it out when I see it because I refuse to lose my hard-won rights to appease a radical minority of bigots.

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A video from 1st March 2024 of a debate in the UK House of Commons about a conversion therapy ban.

My partner insisted I watch this after I got in from a long and difficult day. It's encouraging to know that there are some Tories who will attempt to protect LGBTQIA+ people. I don't know anything else about Alicia Kearns but this is good.

[Video transcript taken from Hansard:

Alicia Kearns, Conservative Party, MP for Rutland and Melton: I am often asked why I fight for a ban on conversion therapy. People say, “Surely there must be some personal connection. Surely you must have some personal history,” but I do not. In fact, there is no one in my family who is LGBT; we may be the only family in the UK without someone who is LGBT. The reason I do it is because fundamentally, as a Conservative, I have a duty to defend individual freedoms. I believe that the state should stay out of people’s lives, but it should protect the most vulnerable—defend those who others seek to harm, and recognise that the first and foremost duty of any Government is to protect their people.

This is not some woke frontier for politicians to weaponise for clickbait, and I am shamed by the debate that is increasingly taking place on conversion therapy. I remember the first debate I secured in this place on conversion therapy. It was moderate; we sat and debated the intricacies of legislation that was not yet there. Unfortunately, that has changed.

People in positions of trust are abusing those who they tell they are sinful, broken and need correcting, which causes lifelong hate. There are survivors in this place—in Parliament. The reason I fight so hard is that so many LGBT colleagues do not feel that they can come here and be labelled as fighting for themselves. They should be free to do that, but sometimes they cannot, and—do you know what?—allyship matters. We have a duty in this place to not impose our own personal views on things, but recognise that our rights—potentially to religious freedoms—can be protected while we also protect those who live a life different from ours.

Neale Hanvey, Alba Party, MP for Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath: The hon. Lady has made a really important point about LGB people coming to this place and feeling safe to argue their position on this important matter. I have experienced the most horrendous bullying in this place because I take a contrary view, or a more guarded view, than some in the LGB community. In fact, people in the LGB community are often referred to as “bigots”, “transphobes” and other slurs just because we have concerns about legislation such as this and want to make sure that young LGB people are protected —and trans people. Does the hon. Lady agree that that rule must apply to all sides of any debate, not just to the side that she favours?

Alicia Kearns: The hon. Gentleman is entirely right, but there was one letter missing in his LGB: the letter T. We do not divide the LGBT community in this place. Members can say that they have concerns about what we are doing, but by removing the T, the hon. Gentleman is suggesting that transgender people do not exist. He is suggesting that they are less than other LGB people, and I will not stand for that, because it was trans people who stood with gay people at Stonewall; it was trans people who fought alongside them for LGB rights. I will happily discuss the intricacies of legislation with the hon. Gentleman, but when he chooses to eradicate, that is wrong.

Miriam Cates, Conservative, MP for Penistone and Stocksbridge: Will my hon. Friend give way?

Alicia Kearns: No, I will not give way on this point, because I will not hear more erasure of a transgender community. We can discuss the intricacies, but that I will not stand for.

I am not going to go into the arguments about the Bill, because the hon. Member for Brighton, Kemptown (Lloyd Russell-Moyle) did an exceptional. job. He went out and met every single person, organisation and lobby group and listened to all their views, even if he disagreed with them—and that includes the LGB Alliance, who have also removed the T—and I have supported him. He has done a phenomenal job.

The hon. Gentleman has set out what the Bill does. It protects religious leaders, who can still guide their flocks. Health practitioners can still support and challenge people, and parents are protected. That is why all major faith groups back the Bill, why the royal colleges back it, and why exploratory therapy is protected. This is a compromise Bill, and I say to Members who wish to oppose it, “Search within yourself, because you have a duty to protect children and a duty to allow professionals to do their job, and you need to recognise that some people’s objections are not to the nuances in the Bill.” The only people who fear a ban on conversion therapy are quacks and charlatans who profit from bigotry and misery. Conversion therapy causes lifelong harm. This is a moderate Bill and a compromise Bill, and it does not go as far as the Government’s proposals. [Interruption.] The hon. Member may chunter and laugh, but I am appalled—[Interruption.] I will happily give way to him if he asks, rather than chuntering.

Danny Kruger, Conservative, MP for Devizes: I apologise for chuntering. I was simply amused by the suggestion that this is a moderate Bill. This is not a moderate speech that the hon. Lady is making. The hon. Member for Brighton, Kemptown (Lloyd Russell-Moyle) made a very good speech, recognising that there are legitimate views on the other side of the debate. The hon. Lady talks about erasure, but she dismissed the comments of the hon. Member for Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath (Neale Hanvey), suggesting that his view was completely invalid. I respect her arguments and her wish to pursue this Bill, or this kind of legislation, but can we please have a debate with more civility?

Alicia Kearns: I would suggest that the ultimate failure of civility is to erase a member of the LGBT community —to erase an entire group. I am happy to discuss the nuanced points, but I will not do so if Members want to suggest that transgender people do not exist, or that we do not really have a definition in law of what transgender people are. They exist in law and they exist in this place, and they exist in the hon. Member’s constituency as well.

The Government should back this compromise Bill, because love is not a pathology, and transgender people are not a pathology: they do not need treatment. I say, very simply, to those people, “You are seen in this place and you are heard in this place, and very many of us back you and will protect you.”

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Lloyd Russell-Moyle was told to "moderate his language" after accusing a Tory MP of "transphobic" remarks.

[richaldis]

Congratulations to  Lloyd Russell-Moyle in Brighton Kemptown. You and your team ran a brilliant campaign, you connected with the voters, spoke to to the consensus and truly listened. A win and a 9,800 majority truly earned.

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MP causes uproar in parliament by grabbing mace in Brexit protest | Politics | The Guardian

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[politicalsci]

This is the list of 34 Labour MPs who defied Keir Starmer and voted against the Tories’ Covert Human Intelligence Sources Bill tonight. The Bill makes it legal for the state to authorise murder, torture, and sexual violence against British citizens. 27 of the Labour MPs are members of the Socialist Campaign Group (including Diane Abbott, Rebecca Long-Bailey, Jeremy Corbyn, Richard Burgon, John McDonnell).

Diane Abbott

Tahir Ali

Paula Barker

Apsana Begum

Olivia Blake

Richard Burgon

Dawn Butler

Ian Byrne

Dan Carden

Jeremy Corbyn

Geraint Davies

Mary Foy

Barry Gardiner

Margaret Greenwood

Rachel Hopkins

Kim Johnson

Ian Lavery

Clive Lewis

Tony Lloyd

Rebecca Long-Bailey

John McDonnell

Ian Mearns

Navendu Mishra

Grahame Morris

Kate Osamor

Kate Osborne

Sarah Owen

Bell Ribeiro-Addy

Lloyd Russell-Moyle

Zarah Sultana

Jon Trickett

Mick Whitley

Nadia Whittome

Beth Winter

[ianchisnall]

A mix of opinions on the Early Day Motions

One significant Parliament theme when it closes down for the holidays are the Early Day Motions (EDM) which are petitions endorsed by MPs who are not members of the Government. There is a mix of views amongst MP’s and political commentators about EDM’s. Ben Bradshaw the Labour MP for Exeter expresses “I regularly get requests from constituents for me to sign what are called Early Day Motions…

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Competent Leave? Starmer is side-stepping the Tory trap on Brexit

By James Bloodworth

It's a telling turn of phrase. Labour leader Keir Starmer is urging prime minister Boris Johnson to "get on" with delivering a Brexit deal so the UK can focus on getting through the coronavirus pandemic. As Starmer put it in an interview with Sky News yesterday: "He promised the British people he'd get a good deal, he needs to deliver on that promise."

Starmer is seeking to cast his party as competent Leavers in opposition to a prime minister he will portray as a reckless one. "Reopening old arguments," as Starmer puts it, would simply take the heat off the government for its woeful response to the covid pandemic.

The Labour leader's stance on Brexit will thwart attempts to cast him as an out of touch Remoaner who hates democracy and wishes to block Brexit. Moreover, reigniting the arguments of 2016-2019 over Brexit would risk playing into the right's attempt to wage a culture war against the left. Conservative pundits are desperately seeking to import the politics of the United States to the UK – with not a little help from the ultra-woke. Successive Conservative governments have created an economy that doesn't work for the majority of working people and are increasingly adopting a 'look over there' platform in their rhetoric: migrants, progressive academics and high court judges are all in the firing line.

The US Republican party has long pursued a similar strategy, seeking to cast its opponents as effete, latte-sipping elites who do not understand the lives of ordinary people. Ever since the Reagan era, Republicans have relentlessly promoted a culture of fear around 'welfare queens', 'superpredators', and other phantasms – while simultaneously cutting taxes for the super-rich. It's a clever trick: you build an economic order that creates voluminous victims and then run on a ticket against those victims.

As Britain braces for record levels of unemployment and its consequent hardships, we can expect the Tory party – encouraged by its bellicose right flank – to adopt a similar tack. Indeed, we have already had a taster of what's to come with home secretary Priti Patel's ludicrously over the top rhetoric directed at a relative handful of refugees beaching on the Kent coast.

To be sure, Starmer must draw a line between himself and the ultra-woke who seem to dominate Labour's online Left. So far he has performed this task relatively well, refusing to be drawn into unambiguously supporting self-identification or embracing the open borders fundamentalism that sought to paint Ed Miliband as a demagogue merely for proposing "controls on immigration".

Mainstream Labour's error in the lead up to the Jeremy Corbyn years was a belief characterised by the phrase 'no enemies on the left'. This resulted in the grotesque spectacle under Corbyn of apologists for the Soviet Union working in the office of the Labour leader. In side-lining Corbyn-era politicians such as Rebecca Long-Baily and Lloyd Russell-Moyle, Keir Starmer appears to understand the importance of a firewall between himself and the hard Left.

But this is different from being drawn into a culture war that is being deployed as part of a distraction effort by the government off the back of its catastrophic mismanagement of covid. The Tories also hope to deliver something to the so-called 'red wall' seats they took from Labour at the 2019 election. Four decades of economic policy have failed many of these people. They have a list of grievances and are looking for someone to blame and, perhaps, someone to follow. They tend to be economically to the left, favouring state intervention if necessary, but culturally to the right, reluctant to embrace immigration and deeply suspicious of the European Union.

Britain is a relatively socially mobile nation and many younger members of these communities migrate to London or other big cities, either to attend university or to find a job upon graduation. Some of those left behind – marooned in dilapidated towns with few remaining economic opportunities – have grown increasingly resentful at a world they feel has little place for them. They feel looked down on by what David Goodhart, in his new book, Head, Hand, Heart, calls the 'cognitive elite': city-dwelling graduates who value individualism and mobility over family and community.

But the culture war is largely a distraction from the problems that have befallen Britain beyond its cities. These problems centre around the proliferation of low-paid, precarious jobs and a lack of opportunity for non-graduates. A 2015 report by the Centre for Cities described a situation in Britain's towns where jobs in declining industries were being replaced by "lower-skilled, more routinised jobs, swapping cotton mills for call centres and dock yards for distribution sheds".

Railing against asylum seekers, the European Union or the woke Left is not going to redress Britain's regional imbalances. However, it is a useful distraction for a Conservative government that has no idea how to counter the economic orthodoxy of the past 40 years – and which is visibly flailing in response to a deadly pandemic. As much the Labour leader's Brexit stance will upset diehard Remainers it is the politically pragmatic one: Starmer has astutely sidestepped a trap set for him by an increasingly desperate Conservative party.

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Fantasy Shadow Cabinet

Leader: Rebecca Long-Bailey Deputy Leader: Dawn Butler Shadow Secretary of Sate for International Development: Dawn Butler Shadow Chancellor: Tony Lloyd Shadow Home Secretary: Keir Starmer Shadow Foreign Secretary: Barry Gardiner Shadow Environment Secretary: Ed Miliband Shadow Defence Secretary: Clive Lewis Shadow Health Secretary: Andrew Gwynne Shadow Justice Secretary: Emily Thornberry Shadow Education Secretary: Angela Rayner Shadow First Secretary of State: Angela Rayner Shadow Business Secretary: Richard Burgon Shadow Transport Secretary: Andy McDonald Shadow Communities and Local Government Secretary: Ian Lavery Shadow Housing Secretary: Graham Morris Shadow Scottish Secretary: Alex Cunningham Shadow Welsh Secretary: Christina Rees Shadow Northern Irish Secretary: Mark Tami Shadow Women and Equalities Secretary: Cat Smith Shadow Culture, Media and Sport Secretary: Dan Carden Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary: Valerie Vaz Shadow Employment Rights Secretary: Charlotte Nichols Chief Secretary to the Treasury: Caudia Webbe Shadow Attorney General: Shami Chakrabati Shadow Minister to the Cabinet Office: Emma Hardy Shadow Youth Engagement Minister: Nadia Whittome Shadow Minister for Mental Health: Rachel Maskell Shadow Leader of the House of Commons: Emma Lewell-Buck Shadow Minister Without Portfolio: Lloyd Russell-Moyle 14 women 14 men 10 northerners (5 North West, 5 North East) 6 Londoners  2 from the South East 3 from Yorkshire 3 Midlanders 2 Scots 2 Welsh

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Conservative MP Miriam Cates and Labour MP Lloyd Russell-Moyle were at loggerheads over trans rights.