#Reynolds Pamphlet

[silalcarin]

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[a-maniac-making-art]

MARIA REYNOLDS WAS THE VICTIM!

[bengals-barnesbabe]

Pairing: Joe Burrow x Singer!FemReader

Summary: When the secret relationship between a famous singer and a popular quarterback is revealed no one could be happier. But when lyrics to an unreleased song are released, the strength of their relationship is questioned and tested when fans, reporters and exes start coming into the mix. Will you get your happy ending or is this the beginning of the end?

Chapter 15: 'The Reynolds Pamphlet'

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Warnings: 18+, mentions of sex, foul language.

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[deathbylog]

I ASK CHATGPT TO TELL ME THE LYRICS TO THE REYNOLDS PAMPHLET AND THIS IS WHAT IT GAVE ME

I CANT BREATHE

[rock-and-roll-suicide]

From all I've learned about Hamilon history over the last few months, I think it's reasonable to believe that if Alexander Hamilton had Reddit, he would have posted the Reynolds pamphlet as an AM I THE ASSHOLE? Post before releasing it on the news.

[nagararitsu]

I changed my mind reynolds pamphlet officially funniest song bc why did no one tell me king george slut drops in it

[nocomforthere]

You ever see somebody ruin their own life? …His poor wife :(

[46ten]

Were some of AH's reactions over-the-top?

@icarusbetide wrote the following here:

and i'm paying attention to what you said about how "He viewed things differently than they because he had different motivations" - that's generally how i feel about the reynolds pamphlet, because i can very much see the reasoning behind why he did it, even if it was a terrible political decision. a lot of his actions can definitely be accounted for by thinking of his priorities, which a lot of scholars have nicely argued were public integrity, honor, fame.

do you think there is something illogical/irrational in a lot of his over-the-top reactions to slander, or do you similarly think they are ill-considered but still rational? i don't have an answer, because i think they make sense given his aforementioned priorities, but i've also seen people argue that that level of intensity and "rabidness" probably had some psychological basis. flexner in the young hamilton seems to lean heavily into that (i have grievances with that book in general so i'm not taking his word for it lol), arguing that hamilton would revert to this insecure, child-like mindset at crucial moments - this isn't really about bipolar disorder or ADHD, but i wanted to ask if you think there's merit in that general idea!

I hate Flexner, and others do, too. I think psychobiography is not at all helpful to history, as a discipline, as "facts" are made up to support the psychological speculation.

It's hard for me to come up with hard examples of AH behaving "irrationally" in his life - that was not his personality at all. He was overly rational, an over-thinker at times. And he was also decisive - he would take this risk if he thought that outcome was worth it, but he does not strike me as someone unaware of the pros and cons who was just marching on. (His rationality, his ability to see many sides, his clear-headed thinking and ability to move that to action, and then his judgement, are qualities his colleagues praised about him - which doesn't mean that he didn't have examples of what they considered to be poor judgment - hello Adams pamphlet.)

To discuss the Reynolds Pamphlet briefly, since this is often suggested as an example of how crazy and impulsive/reckless AH was, he spent at least a month composing it. It's long and detailed. He explains why he's writing it. Considering we have it - documented - that AH consulted with some of his friends about dueling Aaron Burr (another example where it's in fashion to claim AH was some crazy loner guy making bizarre choices), I'd speculate that he discussed writing the pamphlet with EH, John Church, Oliver Wolcott, and William Jackson almost certainly, maybe Fish, Troup, Clarkson....He may have discussed it with Philip Schuyler! [He didn't get as far as he did in military/professional/political life without understanding the idea of consultation and seeing all sides to the problem, even if he wasn't aiming for full consensus.]

Callendar's pamphlets (which we no longer have copies of - historians are working from the History...of 1796 and AH's quotes in the Reynolds Pamphlet) took aim at whether AH was a trustworthy public servant - the intent was to wound his public character. He is absolutely going to need to respond to that in some way. The way he wants to respond to it, however, is to have the editor (Fenno) disavow it, and then to have the men (Monroe, Venable, Muhlenberg) to whom he provided an explanation of the Reynolds Affair way back in December 1792 provide him with letters stating that Callendar's allegations are false. He is furious when Monroe refuses, esp when Monroe states that he didn't really believe AH at the time! He's pretty ticked off that he instead has to argue his own innocence himself, and he lets the reader know he's ticked off to have to do this. That's not reckless, impulsive, crazy behavior. The issue, really, is the amount of detail he provides: not only "I didn't do that," but "I instead was doing this...." He is "too honest," "MOST INDISCREET" as GM probably would have put it! But this was also him putting all his arguments out there - this is what you should judge me for, because I was innocent of that other thing - and besides politicians knowing since 1793, the general public already knew (it's in the press by 1795) that there were accusations of adultery around him. He really wasn't revealing anything except rather excruciating details of the affair, but that again, is his "too honest" style and his thinking like the lawyer he is - "I'm giving you guys all the facts!" There may have also been some thinking that by providing all these facts, it would shame folks in the future and he could avoid being the subject of similar attacks - he may have also wanted to correct people on the record about his adultery; it's difficult to say. (Maybe this link to all my posts on the Reynolds Pamphlet will work, for those interested.)

One of AH's best friends, Robert Troup, states "his ill-judged pamphlet has done him incomparable injury," and Webster's quotes are pretty well known - the common objection is sort of a "why respond at all?" Well, AH explains why he responded - it's not unreasonable.

Let me bring this back to Flexner and his speculation that this has to do with some awful childhood events (that we have no record happened) and his resulting insecurity from it. There's no basis for thinking this. No evidence, no assertions from AH that this is a concern for him - it's just a story to sell books (come on down, Chernow!) Now if we're going to argue that some of AH's defensiveness around attacks on his public character came from his being an outsider, so therefore often having to re-assert his position in the gentleman circle, that may carry more weight - and some scholars do argue that. But I don't think AH, through most of his life, thought of himself as an outsider on the American scene.

If you give me some examples of what you consider to be over-the-top reactions to slander, I may try to respond to a few. I am planning a response to your questions about AH's personality, if that's okay, which I will post in a few days.

[iwrotetheother51]

Who are you? Ooh who is this kid, what's he gonna do?-

The Reynolds Pamphlet.

His poor wife-

Alexander, congratulations. You have invented a new kind of stupid.

[reynoldspamphlet]

what nails do yall think Maria will get? I wanna get nails based off of her so yeah (I have to get them short cuz I play music and stuff )

[thenicoguy]

I just realized that in "say no to this" lin is looking at audience every time he's narrating because the entire song is told from perspective of someone reading Reynolds pamphlet

[unredact3d]

[yr-obedt-cicero]

I find it funny how the musical portrays Eliza as resentful towards Alexander when really she was more pissed that Monroe wouldn't keep his mouth shut lmaoo

[bengals-barnesbabe]

Pairing: Joe Burrow x Singer!FemReader

Summary: When the secret relationship between a famous singer and a popular quarterback is revealed no one could be happier. But when lyrics to an unreleased song are released, the strength of their relationship is questioned and tested when fans, reporters and exes start coming into the mix. Will you get your happy ending or is this the beginning of the end?

Chapter 15: 'The Reynolds Pamphlet'

#Track9 Masterlist

Warnings: 18+, mentions of sex, foul language, threats, blackmail, angst.

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[rubylioness]

Was thinking about how a certain part of ‘Not Like Us’ (“Hey, Drake—they’re not slow”), but honestly low-key the whole song reminded me of Hamilton, and I tried to see if someone else felt this and someone on Twitter tweeted a while back that it sounded like Cabinet Battle.

And then I listened to Washington On Your Side and now I’m thinkin’ if how:

Drake=Hamilton

The other guys=Kendrick, Metro (and Future?), and Kanye.

And Lucien Grainge obviously would be the “Washington” on Drake’s side”

😂

[themintiris]

journalist: Mr. Hamilton, how does it feel to be voted the most hated man in America right now?

Hamilton: In a country full of neanderthals, I wear it as a badge of honor

random person: what about the rumors that you embezzled money from the government?

Hamilton: WHO THE HELL SAID THAT-