#Star Wars EU lore

[iainwrites]

Hey, Ahsoka fans. Here's some old school EU lore for you.

Hera's kid, Jacen? There was a previous character who used that name: Jacen Solo. In EU canon, Han and Leia married and had twins, Jacen and Jaina. Jacen, at one point, set out to find a path of the Force that wasn't Light or Dark but ended up falling and becoming Darth Caedus.

So that's a VERY interesting name to give to a child of a Force user.

[captaingondolin]

There was discussion of this very passage with more context a while ago, here's the post!

Does anyone have the source of boba fett calling sex before marriage immoral?

I have the the text somewhere, I’ll post it if that’ll help jog your memories. Got to find it first.

[sven-a-la-mode]

just found out that eu means extended universe and does NOT mean that europe had a different star wars canon than everyone else

[thethirdromana]

This is probably not a very original observation, but I love how Andor and Rogue One in combination reframe A New Hope so it's crystal clear that the Empire sowed the seeds of its own destruction.

In Andor, the rebellion is sparse and directionless. It's no threat to the Empire at the start. It becomes a threat because of the actions that the Empire takes in order to build the Death Star - in particular, the Ghorman Massacre. Even in Rogue One, the Rebellion teeters on the edge of giving up. But the "tests" of the Death Star on Jedha and Alderaan help to change that. At that point, the evil of the Empire becomes undeniable.

And all of that was completely avoidable. There's never any clear reason why the Empire needs a planet-killing superweapon. They're not currently at war and they won the last war that they fought. There is the threat of rebellion, but planet-killing superweapons are useless against an insurgency. With a slower, more cautious consolidation of imperial power, the Empire might have been unstoppable.

But Palpatine wanted to be able to destroy planets, and so he helped to destroy himself.

[beyemar]

A chronological history of all Sith (and sith-adjacents, such as the Inquisitorius and Knights of Ren) in the current Star Wars canon, compiled after tedious research by yours truly.

Accurate as of November 2024.

[empress-violetlight]

"Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous"

It's kind of unfair that for a major villain featured in a main SW movie, we don't really have all that much EU or Mouse Canon lore on Grievous. He doesn't have any novels devoted to him. His lore's pieced together from articles like this, which can be kind of difficult for modern fans to get, especially if a media company is bought out and its lore is no longer considered "canon".

Luckily, I happened to have this issue, from back in my original SW hyperfixation in the early 2000s.

Shared with the Grievous Discord server I'm a member of, but I thought Tumblr fans might want to see as well.

Published in Star Wars Insider #86, Mar/Apr 2006, by Abel G. Pena

Enjoy!

[starhanie]

@swsource​ star wars week: day 1 – favourite character (han solo)

[ncfan-1]

I appreciate that it’s after Luke has a talk with Leia about their mother that he finds the resolve to go to their father and try to save him. Padmé is a blank spot in his life, but he knows that he had a mother, and that she presumably loved his father. After considering someone else who loved his father, he finds the will to let his own love lead his actions. And it is that love that saves the day, and the whole galaxy with it.

[marmota-b]

Glitch IS meant to be Force sensitive, here's why

Clone Trooper Glitch Who Is Definitely Force Sensitive.

As far as I can tell, everyone has fallen in love with that idea and everyone is now saying "Glitch is Force sensitive and you can't convince me otherwise."

Listen, what if I can actually convince you he is, with literary analysis?

I don't think I've ever seen this particular angle discussed (not that I have looked too hard, but no one ever brings it up when talking about Glitch). Everyone just loves the idea that he's Force sensitive because it's a lovely / exciting idea. And, okay, it's never stated outright in the source material, so there's some room for doubt. (And it was obviously intentionally left open-ended.)

BUT

I think the subtext, for those who know what it is, is so thick it might as well be an open admission of authorial intent. You see, Glitch's comic, Defenders of the Lost Temple, is drawing heavily on the Knights of the Old Republic comics in its lore. The Gauntlet they're sent to recover comes from that series. The moon where it resides is named after one of the characters from the series and likely is the moon he moved to at the end of his arc, and there's a statue of him there. There are all these deliberate, easily proven links to the series.

And there's also the less direct but still present parallel of questioning whether Jedi should be fighting in a war at all - Knights of the Old Republic (comics) takes place at the beginning of the Mandalorian Wars when some Jedi went to fight and others argued that wasn't their place, and some people get caught in the conflict without ever wanting to. That's a more dubious connection, and may not have been deliberate, but...

That is - the writer knew what he was doing here, in relation to previously published material.

The main protagonist of that series is Zayne Carrick.

Zayne is a sort of off-beat Jedi (well, almost-Jedi). He is just about Force sensitive enough to be admitted to the Jedi Order. He has "a special relationship with the Force." His special relationship with the Force mainly manifests in him being very clumsy and having the worst sort of luck. No one really thinks he'll make it as a Jedi. His own fellow padawan friends don't think he'll make it as a Jedi. But he's so good and caring and trying. And in the long run, he learns to work with his bad luck, and it turns out it's not so much a bad luck as the Force working... as a sort of swing, around him, with a balance of good and bad events. Things rarely work out as expected, but he learns to expect the unexpected. And once he does, and learns to ride the waves instead of trying to swim against the current, it actually works mainly in the heroes' favour.

Does that remind you of anyone?

Yep.

I'm pretty sure Glitch is a deliberate callback to Zayne Carrick and his special relationship with the Force.

I don't know if he started out that way from the start, or if the idea of "what if a clone was Force sensitive" came first and this theme just slotted into place later (honestly, the latter is probably likelier). But it's undeniably there; with all the other references to KOTOR, it's unlikely the author would have missed the main protagonist's character arc re: Force sensitivity.

Glitch has a special relationship with the Force exactly like Zayne's. He just has, unlike Zayne, also the bad luck of never having been tested for Force sensitivity. (This is all EU/Legends. Don't expect New Canon to stick to any of the above.)

[sinisterexaggerator]

I started a TikTok where I am only posting Star Wars lore. I wonder if anyone has any interest in me posting my slides here as well?

Here is an example. This one is about Aurra Sing.

[ebitenpura]

i could never be a jedi. i would be sent straight to the Agricorps. i would be using the Force to detect my crop's optimal growth rate. i would be talking to okra and corn trying to convince them that the Living Force demands they increase their juiciness. Sith would detect my potential and i would say no thank you my fields call to me.

[superectojazzmage]

Hi:) ive been wanting to start Reading SW Legends and.....is it a good Idea to start with fate of the Jedi when i only read the Thrawn triology?

( legacy of the Jedi IS a Bit much to read with 16 books xd)

Absolutely not, Fate of the Jedi is effectively the grand finale of the Post-OT Legends stories AND it follows directly off the events of Legacy of the Force; it brings together a ton of plot threads and characters from previous stories. To read Fate and really get it's proper impact and know what it's even talking about half the time, you pretty much have to first read a significant number of books.

The ones you'd NEED to read before tackling Fate are probably Hand of Thrawn (the sequel to the Thrawn Trilogy you've mentioned reading), New Jedi Order, Dark Nest, and Legacy of the Force. The good news is that Hand and NJO are both masterpieces and some of the best Legends stories. The bad news is that Dark Nest and Legacy are both ROUGH. But you do gotta power through them for a lot of Fate to make sense, and while Fate isn't as good as NJO and Hand, it IS good enough that I'd argue suffering through Nest/Legacy is worth it.

If you absolutely can't make it through the sharp quality drop that Nest and Legacy bring, it is possible - if not recommended - to just skim a summary and than skip from NJO to Fate. Just be aware that if you do that, there's gonna be a lot of whiplash of the "what the fuck happened to *insert character who died*?" variety.

[tsotf-fic]

♚ the sins of the father - masterlist ♛

chapter 1 - when stars collide

i. sisters

ii. birds of paradise

iii. the ward

[ice-6caydesqueen]

i love this particular bit written by miss traviss

disney not knowing how this culture works especially how the women and men work in it together such a shock xD

this is why i always hoped cara/gina would have become mando she acts like a mando lady

also just the art is so cute and family bonding ahhhhh

[legacy-expo]

Happy publication anniversary to The Essential Atlas, released on this day in 2009!

[ctcaptaincorgi]

I need to go on a small side tangent, separate from all my thoughts about my current read through of the OG Thrawn trilogy.

Ya see, I had one day after finishing Heir to the Empire read a little bit of the Sith Book: Secrets from the Dark Side. I started learning about and growing a deeper familiarity with the history of the sith and sith purebloods. I only got to read through Sorzus Syn's portion, but it started giving me some thoughts. I'm particular, how to fix that stupid "Exegol is the home world of the sith" crap that Rise of Skywalker did (because Korriban/Morriban is where they really originate). Anyway, in my reading I learned about this planet that the sith pureblood empire conquered, Ziost. It was the throne world of the sith purebloods, then later the sith empire after the first lords of the sith arrived. It was an ancient world filled with the dark side. And much like the rest of sith space, hard to reach for anyone who didn't have the force or didn't know it's coordinates. And on Korriban, there were many structures built in such a way that the dark side could be better channeled, which was noted by Palpatine in the margins describing it, that he taught sith cultists how to make similar structures.

Spoilers for SWTOR incoming, if you don't want to see it, go to the next paragraph. In one of expansions for the game, you visit Ziost. Long story short, Vitiate/Valkorian killed everyone on that planet, leaving it desolate and in ruin.

So with all that information in mind, I started thinking about how to fix the Exegol problem. WHAT IF... Just like Korriban, Ziost was also being called by a different name at that point in time? It would explain why Exegol was hard to get to and why the planet looks so empty except for one temple built by cultists. Plus it doesn't have the problem of the extremely distinct look that Korriban has/having an equivalent already named in canon. And even though Ziost isn't the home world of the sith, perhaps that information would have at some time been forgotten to time by the greater galaxy, just as any version of the sith have. And if nothing else, Ziost was an important planet to the sith, so perhaps that information was misinterpreted. I'm working with what I got.

I still think the movie is bad and needed so many changes, and I know it wasn't intended since JJ Abrams probably just wanted to make up a whole new planet without any regards to what lore existed before. But it's now my personal headcanon that Exegol and Ziost are the same planet because it will help keep me sane.