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cloudysfluffs · 1 year ago
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REALLY considered not posting this one.......might delete later
ns//fw and/or ki//nk blogs please dni!!!
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thirdeyeblue · 1 year ago
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“Nine would have treated Martha better than Ten did”
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I need to talk about this argument that never seems to stop circulating.
Note: Not a venomous/anti post. There’s more than enough of that across fandom spaces as is, and this is supposed to be a place for ✨sweet, blissful escapism✨
When making this argument, people seem to envision a scenario in which Nine never met Rose.
While I can appreciate a good hypothetical, recognizing Rose's significance to the Doctor (Nine and Ten) is essential to understanding why things with Martha played out the way they did in the first place.
In the third series, the Doctor is grieving. This grief is deliberately threaded into nearly every script, whether spoken aloud or not (and these are just a few examples):
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He's burning in Rose’s wake the entire time Martha travels with him, which is why it’s so frequently called upon: It’s 100% deliberate in framing his grief. He grieved as Nine too, of course— having been fresh on the heels of the Time War — but then he met Rose, which changed everything.
Back then, he was still a rude, traumatized pain in the ass, but we watch Rose soften more of those jagged edges with every episode as they grow closer; as he lets his guard down and forms a deep connection with her.
He falls in love (against his better judgment) and it's game over.
And yes: provided S1E1 had been titled 'Martha', one can realistically assume things might have unfolded similarly to how they did with Rose. However, it wouldn’t have been that way just because the Doctor was Nine and “Nine was different” — it would be because he wasn’t already in love with someone else. The same can't be said for the start of S3.
Think of it like this: if Rose AND Martha had been in that cellar — if Nine had taken both of them along with him in S1 — we’d eventually be looking at the most melodramatic love triangle ever, what with him living in close quarters with two brilliant, gorgeous, compassionate young women... But Doctor Who is plenty “soap opera” as is with just one woman in the TARDIS.
(I certainly wouldn’t object to reading that fic, though)
Now, regarding the unrequited elephant in the room…
His inability to be romantic with Martha isn’t because he thinks her lesser, nor is it for lack of compatibility. It isn't because Rose is any better than her. It certainly isn’t just because he’s Ten.
It’s really only for one reason, which can't be denied — and now I’m a broken record:
He is still in love with Rose.
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Nine is Ten, and Ten is only such a mess in S3 because he’s just lost the love of his life. Martha merely got caught in the crosshairs of a volatile Time Lord in mourning, and yes — it sucks. Absolutely.
But it also feels dismissive to chalk Ten and Martha’s relationship up to little more than some sort of mindless dance of pining, jealousy, and toxicity.
Ten trusted Martha with his life over and over again — and hers, with him. He constantly praised her brilliance, happily carting her around time and space with no intention of letting her go. In the BBC’s extended universe of novels/comics/cartoons/etc, there’s so much depth to their relationship: love and trust and trauma and sacrifice. They had their own special bond as mates, their own complexities — so it’s a bummer that it's forever overshadowed by the other things.
I’m not denying that there was a lot of stuff that sucked/was for sure toxic about Ten's S3 behavior, but so many of the things I've seen him catching flak for can be directly attributed to being A Clueless Fucking Alien Idiot (not a trait that’s unique to Ten) — as well as his flat-out obliviousness to Martha’s feelings.
So yes, I agree: if Rose never existed, he would have treated Martha differently as Nine. He also would have treated her differently as Ten. Certainly.
But Rose did exist, and when discussing canon, it matters.
“He tells me that he absolutely, 100% loves Rose... He tells me how my daughter; my wonderful, beautiful, clever little girl saved him from himself before… And he says that’s all because of me! I made her into the Rose Tyler that saved him.”
-Jackie Tyler, Flight Into Hull!
Martha got the short end of the stick in S3. She came round at the wrong place and time, but that doesn't mean it was all bad. It doesn't mean the Doctor didn’t adore her. It certainly doesn't mean the time they spent together was wasted or worthless. They were brilliant!
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Sure, he could be a twat, but let it be known that he was a twat with Rose as well, both as Nine and Ten. I’m sure Tentoo can be plenty infuriating, too. So while I'll defend Ten (and Tentoo) into the ground forever and ever and ever, I'll concede that he's fucked up.
The Doctor is a certified Pain In The Ass. It’s one of the things I love so much about this character — dynamics.
But never forget that Martha was goddamn tough as nails and overcame every bit of it. She moved on with her life, and the Doctor moved on with his. One can only pray that, when they inevitably drag her back onto the show (which feels inevitable if I'm honest), we see at once that she's been living her best life for all these years.
#I'm paranoid af about posting this but also feel like maybe two people will read it so perhaps I'm safe#doctor who#tenth doctor#ninth doctor#rose tyler#martha jones#baby's first meta#dw meta#I hope this wasn't just a mess of discombobulated stream-of-consciousness chatter#try as I may to avoid it#I'm somehow still aware of the sea of bad fandom vibes surrounding almost every character mentioned#besides Nine - who for some reason seems to be above reproach#there's a painful absence of civil discourse#especially where shipping is concerned#but let me tell you#I've vibed with T/M people about T/R and T/R people about T/M and it is a beautiful thing#I wish we could all just get along#also I've got so many more thoughts about this topic#like an embarrassingly long list of thoughts#I tried to scale it down as best I could while also being as inoffensive as possible#gonna crawl back under my rock now#also you should all go read Peacemaker#best DW novel since the Stone Rose#belated tag added way after the fact but:#for some reason I’ve yielded so much hate mail since originally posting this#because I suppose some people have only cottoned on to my enjoyment of T/M#but please note that I’ve been writing my T/M series since 2022#it’s had no bearing whatsoever on my love of T/R+T2/R aka the OTP of all time#but I’m also a grown-ass woman in my thirties and we are all playing with dolls here#I just wanna spread love and write smut and I do this for fun so if you can’t be nice - then I don’t want you reading anyway
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unlikelyapricot-art · 18 days ago
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an old drawing of velvet that never saw the light of day :)
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jewishcissiekj · 2 months ago
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ykw i think i WILL read the first 48 issues of Exiles (2001) before moving on the the next era of the x-men reading guide I'm following
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kayvsworld · 11 months ago
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CRYING WEEPING GNASHING TEETH steve talking to bucky's weird alien ghost i can't do this
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callmehere-iwillappear · 6 months ago
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2024 Writing Roundup
tagged by @remedyturtles
Words Posted:
172,386 according to ao3. i don't think that's actually accurate because i think when you update an already existing fic in a new year all the previous words carry over (so like with cmh it's counting all 68k (?!?!?!?!?) even though most of that was Not written in 2024 lmao)
okay. update. after going through my docs and chapters to see when stuff was posted, assuming i did all my math right, the actual count is closer to: 77,657 words
Additional Words Written:
oh god. uh. lots probably
okay i went and dug through all my many many google docs. this is not an accurate count by any means because there's definitely stuff i missed but approximately: 73,575 words
Fandoms:
mostly rottmnt with a bit of isat at the end
Highest kudos + Highest Hit One-Shot:
but i can't live in a storm for both :thumbsup:
New Things I Tried:
uhhhhhhh. straight up don't remember anything new i tried last year </3
Fic I Spent The Most Time On:
iiiii don't know? probably bicls, cmh, or permafrost but. i don't keep track of how long i spend working on specific things </3
Fic I Spent The Least Time On:
again no idea </3 maybeeee the og version of bicls that was like. 3k words? which is really funny considering that the full version is on my list of 'maybe i spent the most time on it' lmaofjdskljfdlk
Favorite Thing I Wrote:
proooobably but i can't live in a storm. or one of the things i didn't post maybe. but out of the things i've posted i'd say almost definitely bicls
Favorite Thing(s) I Read:
oh god. this is such a hard question holy shit. hold on i'm just gonna go through everything i bookmarked last year and list some of my faves out :thumbsup:
firefight (ok listen Technically i bookmarked it in 2023 but also it was finished in 2024 so it still counts bc Duh) (+ side fic)
First Snow Days
Fly Our Kites in the Wind
Siblingquest 202X
take my brain or what remains
now the darkness comes alive
a bigger heart grew back
I'll let you hit me twice
remember me how i was
Goodnight til it be Tomorrow
it gets you in the end
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make this heart beat on and on
Alien Blues
stare directly at the sun (+ side fics)
hear you knocking
higher devotion
there are almost definitely more but this is already really long so ;afljdslkfjdkl
Writing Goals for 2025:
uhh. just. write anything honestly? ideally something i'm happy with. i'm trying not to put too much on myself because the spoons have been not on my side lately so. just Anything
New Works:
i have a few like. concepts? that i'm working on and/or thinking about doing something with. but also they're all isat sorry turtle gang </3 new hyperfixation hit real hard
Tagging:
anyone who wants to!
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teadrunktailor · 5 months ago
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Protip for the people messaging me on FB Marketplace about the stuff I have for sale: I can help you a lot easier if you use full sentences.
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blessedbrick · 1 month ago
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Sometimes being a salty admin means unsubscribing and removing our company from any and all mailers/fliers/magazines/solicitations because you’re making me recycle a brick of paper every single day
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corvidaerook · 1 month ago
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Every day I'm surprised there isn't more talk of Ashur Dragon Age as a vampire
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shroomerr · 2 months ago
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just finished rewatching kickass and kickass and hitgirl are my kids now. ive adopted them.
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camifornilla · 3 months ago
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I love when other countries set their stories in Hollywood/California cuz then I get to sit there reading it like Wrong! Wrong, wrong, wrong! Unlikely. Inaccurate. Wrong.
Some fun facts about California:
We have no private beaches, people might put stuff on the beach to make it seem like a private beach, but beaches are not private here and the public is allowed to access the beach at all times.
If you’re in a Hollywood/Downtown Los Angeles setting, keep in mind we have a lot of traffic. If you want your character to be an LA native, they’ll call traffic traffic because that’s just what it is. If they’re from some other city/state/etc and they moved to LA later they’ll call it “LA Traffic” (but please don’t put that to paper cuz it’s fucking annoying and their opinions Do Not Count).
Weather wise: In Southern California/SoCal we get earthquakes, droughts, and not a lot of rain.
If we do get rain, we also get a lot of flash flooding. We don’t typically get snow unless you’re high up in the mountains and the mountains that get snow are Very far away from any other noteworthy location (like 1-3 hours).
If you’re gonna put an earthquake in for a native, you’ve gotta make it Big Big for it to be really plot worthy (like you’re in the epicenter for something 5.0 or greater) otherwise you’ll probably sleep through it, not notice it at all, or maybe feel a bit of vertigo. If they’re a transplant, make them react to anything 3.0+ because they’re not used to it.
If ya want animal related drama and they’re in a foresty/hilly setting drop in some coyotes and if it’s Really foresty and mountainous maybe add some mountain lions. I’ve never had an encounter with mountain lions beyond seeing them on the news but coyotes are very common. Folks don’t leave their small dogs out alone sometimes cuz Coyotes tend to attack/eat them.
Edit: the Pacific Ocean is really cold. It’s always very cold.
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bf-rally · 7 months ago
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ive done it...
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the page is listing stuff weee! now if only i could figure out how to make the names change size based on the screen size
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readingwriter92 · 4 months ago
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Like I’m trying to avoid any Amt of googling around banana fish so I don’t spoil myself. And that includes not listening to the soundtrack but like fuck if it doesn’t slap so hard.
Like. I hate how much I love dino’s theme? Oathkeeper is also a banger.
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asleepinawell · 5 months ago
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every time i overhead smash something with my giant hammer i imagine it's this pop up
#i finally trained leylines for my glider and was like thank god i will never see ever again#oh boy was i in for a bad surprise#so now i gotta get this through several more expansions of content before it stops popping up while I'm in the middle of doing stuff#it also does it over and over when you're using the actual leylines since each one is several strung together#how hard is it to add a tutorials toggle guys#i am enjoying the game still but my god the user experience is a mess#and the whole thing is poorly designed for people trying to play anything but the latest stuff#like they did not put much thought into people who want to go back and play through the whole story#and what their experience might be like#it is also so so buggy#also annoyed rn that after lws1-2 it felt like some different writers stepped in who Did Not Like Women#the first two seasons were like women everywhere in every role and barely any dudes in the main cast#also the main npcs are your friends#then in hot it was like actually your friends are your subordinates and the entire world now revolves around you#and we need to remove or humiliate women in the cast or at least give them zero lines#like what is going on over there#I've heard the story improves as it goes but i liked lws1! (which was removed from the game for a long time???#despite being crucial to understanding the plot????)#now it's like one of my favorites got benched for pof and another is off babysitting some dudes manpain#manpain over a fridged female character#sometimes it's like someone read a list of the worst tropes ever and used it as an outline#when i played s1 i was like wow huge female cast and a ton of queer stuff#i guess that was seen as a Mistake and rectified#they should have added more gay stuff to hot and removed the snipers#seriously though i am going to murder this pop up#gw2mp#mp
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cyberstabbing · 5 months ago
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I'm reading The Safekeep and watching Carol and I love love love historical lesbian fiction, but I find the encounters with the men they're avoiding terrifying. as a lesbian who is awful with confrontation, it's been awful awful every time a male friend has mistaken friendship for something more, or tried to somehow veer me into bisexuality. it's just funny that in other books i've read recently, there's been murders and other plot-stirring elements, but it's the men chasing the lesbians and holding their lives back that's got me nauseous with dread.
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castlebyersafterdark · 8 months ago
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byler + byclair 😉
Nothing better than Mike and Lucas craving a little Will sandwich. 😋🤤😵‍💫 Yessssssss
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