#and honestly Helaena doesn’t have a good answer than she’s sorry

[dulcewrites]

ok this is kinda silly but it slightly eases the angst in my head

I can imagine Helaena and modern fmo reader just saying fuck these men and like living the 2000s the simple life tv show fantasy and just going on girl trips causing havoc

Ooouuu I feel like Helaena would be like “let’s go on trip together” to try and mend their relationship as they reconcile. She thinks getting away from everything might help. Reader did like eh but agrees bc she could use the break.

They drink too much, probably do some hard drugs. Helaena tries to get reader laid…It’s a TIME

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Hello, I know it happened a long time ago, but in one of your posts about headcanons of our beautiful tragic queen Naerys, if someone asked you about headcanons of other characters maybe you would answer them. I would like to hear your headcanons about Daenerys daughter of Naerys (Her life at court, hobbies, possible dragon, her relationship with her entire family, Daemon and the prince of Dorne, did she have the same taste as her mother in clothing and religious faith? ) and Rhaenyra, about almost the same thing.

Oh hell yah, thank you for sending an ask!!

- Daenerys I think was most likely kept away from court for most of her childhood by Naerys and eventually Daeron when she went into his custody because in all fairness I doubt Aegon’s court was really a good place to be for a princess, but she would’ve had more of a chance to build a small social circle of friends for herself when her brother became king!

- As for hobbies, I could see her as loving dancing and horseback riding. If I could give her any special interest it would absolutely be map collecting, as a kid Naerys promised her they would travel everywhere so she spent a lot of time gathering maps on where she wanted to go, and it just kinda snowballed from there lol. Her room in Dorne probably has a giant atlas of the world made of sewn together maps that she spent a good couple of years making lol

- For a possible dragon…. Honestly the most likely would’ve been Morning I think, but man if I can pick any for her it would absolutelyyyyy be Meleys. Like, not to use the show as a reference but a red dragon with bright copper horns that look like a sun??? That’s so thematically pleasing come on!!!!

- For familial relationships, she absolutely loved her mother, but was probably too young to really understand the concept of death when Naerys passed. She does love Daeron and Myriah as her secondary parents (we don’t talk about Aegon), and was likely raised to think of their sons as her brothers. Her favourite sibling though was likely Shiera, just cause she was happy to have a baby sister <3

- As for romantic relationships though….. I could see her and Daemon having a mutual childhood crush because they were raised in an environment that saw sibling relationships as normal, but both kinda grew out of it as they became more and more distant, and like- yaknow, got married and all. Until canon says otherwise I’m absolutely putting Maron’s age as just a few years older than her because idk- don’t like the idea of a sixteen year old marrying a thirty-five year old man, but in any case I think their relationship was polite but distant for the first few years of marriage. She really fell in love with him when he made the water gardens for her <3

- When it comes to faith, no doubt in her early years she was taught a lot about the seven by Naerys, but I can’t really see her being particularly religious? Especially not after her mom died. She’d still kinda respect the faith because that is what’s expected of a woman in her society, but she doesn’t go out of her way to pray every single day for sure.

I’m really sorry, I don’t really have much on Rhaenyra because she isn’t really a character that I think about that much 😭 the best I can give is one headcanon about her and her siblings:

- Which is! Idk I think she was initially really happy when Aegon and Helaena were born, because she was like- ten, didn’t initially have a bad relationship with Alicent yet and wasn’t aware of the political ramifications of Aegon’s existence. Idk!! I could see her picking out the shiny gold egg for her baby bro so they could have matching dragons and begging for her baby sister to be named Visenya and playing with them! Sue me I like a little joy before the tragedy starts!

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Hi, I want to know your opinion on or what you think it would happened to Alicent children in the very impossible case and that the dance didn’t happened; let’s say the greens let Rhaenyra be crowned; like there’s is not that many options of what she can do with her siblings, and let’s be honest I don’t think she would have been a good queen she never learned how to rule and there is no way her rule would be easy having a bastard as heir (but that’s another subject ‘cause I know that if Jace ever came near the throne Daemon would have started the Dance)

I hace think of three options: 1) She let them live and remain as princes and princess as well a Alicent being dowager queen, maybe just send them to Dragonstone or Oldtown.

2) Daemon convinces her of getting rid of them (principal Aegon, Aemond and Daeron as well a Jaehaerys and Maelor), because at least according to the book he hated his nephews for pushing him down the line. Show Rhaenys probably would support this, a mean she lied to her saying the Greens were coming for her children when none of them except for Otto mentioned.

3) Somebody on her council, maybe Corlys (he is probably the only smart head on her side) or and elder or even Ser Harrold convince that if she doesn’t want to harm them but also not have her legitimacy questioned by the lords, just send the to the Wall and returned Alicent, Helaena and her babies to Oldtown or Dragonstone,

Honestly Rhaenyra doesn’t seems to care or like her little siblings and at least in the show she could’ve been conflicted because of Alicent (even when their are her siblings and she probably watch the since babies)

But what do you think, ether based on the show, book or both.

P.d: Sorry to ramble hear but I don’t really know how to make my post on Tumblr appear aside from my blog 😛😝

Hi, and rambling is fine and always welcomed here 🫶🏽. Warning you - long answer incoming lol

So, right off the bat, I think book Rhaenyra would feel little remorse merking her brothers. People dunk on book Alicent for beefing with a child, but book Rhaenyra also wasn’t happy with her younger brothers especially by the time the dance came around (and she has a one sided beef with a 16 year old girl later on but that’s beside the point). Even before the dance she didn’t like them. We also get actual lines saying Daemon also didn’t like his nephews because they pushed him down in the succession. Daemon very clearly writes a ‘son for a son’ to Rhaenyra then b&c happens, essentially ruining Helaena’s life for good. How much culpability people want to put on Rhaenyra is their prerogative, but if she had no problem with that happening to Helaena of all people. I don’t think she’d feel bad murdering her brothers, especially if she thought they actively stood in her way. Also book Rhaenyra set a precedent for harming those in her way. Having vaemond killed, being ok with viserys taking the tongues of those who dared questioned her kid’s parentage etc. She had no real connection to them. She said she would ‘spare’ them then when she realized Aegon was fine with being king, she switched on a dime. That affection was contingent on them bending the knee to her. Honestly, even if they swore fealty to her, I think the ‘peace’ would have been short lived on both sides.

Book Rhaenyra "My half brothers would be more to his taste” Targaryen was not checking for anyone like that. She was rude asf 😭. Someone smarter than her could hopefully say it’s not a good look to kill your siblings as your first action as queen lmao. But Rhaenyra clearly didnt care how she came off as long as she was in power. Like most monarchs.

Now what show Rhaenyra would do is a bit more complex imo

It’s quite hard to theorize bc while I still think much like the book, Rhaenyra has little genuine affection towards her siblings, I don’t think the choice to kill them would be easy for her. Mainly bc her feelings for Alicent. That being said, she has shown she is willing to throw her brothers under the bus. Specifically if it means protecting her kids.

I side eye the ‘show Rhaenyra would never have her siblings killed’ crowd. She might feel actual remorse or it would take some real convincing, but I don’t think that option is completely off the table for her. She knows how much her father favors her and she continues to twist that knife against her younger siblings. I think much of the paranoia we are going to see from Rhaenyra in the show not only comes from obviously losing her kids, but also from the two people who ‘protected’ her (daemon and viserys. I’m using this very losely bc they suck and saying this from her pov) essentially leaving her high and dry. Viserys shielded her from a lot of criticism and repercussions others would normally face. That paranoia/feeling alone, much like how Alicent’s manifested in show, could lead her to assuming her children will be killed. She would maybe try to get ahead of that.

Realistically, I can see show Rhaenyra sending terms the way Alicent did for her. Saying if they swear to her, they can go free. Now daemon is a whole different beast. Who knows - he couldve went behind her back and did something to the targtowers. Or she could have other advisors telling her to think of her kids/grandkids. Because even if there is no war between them, who is to say older Jaehaerys and Maelor won’t come to get what they think they are owned against Rhaenyra or even jace and baela’s hypothetically kids.

show rhaenyra would have pushed for peace, much like Alicent did, but I think Rhaenyra is surrounded by more forceful people. Daemon, corlys, rhaenys. On the other hand, we see Alicent take notice of Otto’s plotting and make moves to counteract that. It’s why I’ll never get the Alicent has no agency convo. The only reason Rhaenyra receives terms in the first place is bc of Alicent. If the roles were reversed, idk how that would have went. Otto lets this happen after Alicent agrees that Aegon will assume his authority. Plus I think Aegon craves his mother’s love/approval far more than daemon does Rhaenyra’s. Daemon doesn’t listen to Rhaenyra. The likelihood of Aegon listening to Alicent is higher

So, who knows how it would’ve panned out in the show. It’s very up in the air tbh.

Side note: It’s funny you mentioned the rhaenys line. I still do not get why she said that to Rhaenyra. All Alicent told rhaenys is that siding with Rhaenyra has done nothing for her family. True. And that without Meleys/velaryon support, Rhaenyra would maybe would NEGOTIATE. Also true. Alicent literally said she didn’t want war. What about Alicent’s tear filled pathetic brown eyes gave ‘omg can’t wait to kill Rhaenyra and them fuckass kids 🤪’ vibes to Rhaenys. Alicent says she wants peace, rhaenys snaps on her. Rhaenyra says she wants peace, and rhaenys is like ‘I think you killed my son but so true queen 😍’.

She has weird beef with Alicent for *checks notes* living a patriarchal society as a child bride and not ‘fighting back’ enough???