#and shes doing the mimics bidding even if she doesnt want to be

[puhpandas]

Vanny!Cassie Theory (Ruin)

*matpat voice* I SOLVED RUIN!!!!

okay but i actually think i got something here:

the most controversial question in Ruin is for sure whether The Mimic or Gregory cut the elevator or not. im here to tell you a genuine theory for why The Mimic would cut the elevator :)

after the credits during the elevator ending, we hear Roxy say “Cassie?”. this means Cassie is alive after the ending.

this ALSO means shes trapped underground with The Mimic, if it didnt get out. it also means that if The Mimic was down there with her, it didnt kill her.

I think The Mimic cut the elevator on purpose, posing as Gregory to make Cassie believe shes been betrayed, once again feeling unwanted or unloved as she did when her friends didnt show up.

Thisll drive Cassie to feel betrayed and sad, and maybe angry that ‘Gregory’ would do that to her.

i genuinely think The Mimic did this on purpose. the entire time throughout Ruin, it manipulated and tricked Cassie into thinking it was something it wasnt, and lead her to its trap.

this makes me think The Mimic never even wanted to escape, really. that wasnt its only goal. The Mimic knows things about Cassie, now. the VANNI mask connected to her brain. it shows memories she had with Gregory and her internal feelings as tangible things in the AR world.

The Mimic knows how vulnerable Cassie is. it knows that she cares about Gregory, and it knows she’ll do anything to help him. it KNOWS about her memories with being left behind, feeling unwanted, always being alone. at least when Roxy mentioned it.

The Mimic posed as Gregory and dropped the elevator, making Cassie feel betrayed and angry, and its going to use that to make her the new Vanny.

Vanessa (and Gregory if GGY is canon) is free. she isnt under The Mimics control anymore. Gregory completely destroyed Glitchtrap when he played princess quest 3. Gregory and Vanessa created M.X.E.S to flush out the virus and keep it locked away. The Mimic is literally back to square one. it lost all of its progress.

So its next plan, as something who knows a ton about the kid it hates most, Gregory, posed as him to lure a new victim. A new person to take over.

thats why Cassie has the VANNI mask. thats another reason why Ruin reminds you of Princess quest, and sister location. like ennard lured mike to use it for its bidding, The Mimic literally lured Cassie right into its trap, and now its going to use the feelings it ITSELF caused her to have with faking Gregorys betrayal to take her over, and make her its new Vanny.

the VANNI mask already caused her to have false memories. The log ride was never completed, but she remembers how it was so much fun. Shes already being corrupted. The Mimic already started the process of taking her over.

Its going to warp her memories and sense of reality, and make her believe Gregory did something awful to her, and her guard will be so let down with despair, The Mimic, maybe even using Gregory as its new persona, will take over her mind.

[charmanderxerneas]

(going to be tagging this as ruin spoilers but please dont comment any spoilers because we're not actually done with all the game. We've gotten 2/3 endings and are working towards the secret ending where you have to find hidden cameras while also replaying and seeking out the secrets we missed. This is seriously just insane ramblings aimed at no one i just need to get my thoughts out and suggest u scroll past.)

I seriously like. Am struggling to figure out the whole plot of ruin in an analytical story timeline sense. No i do not read or care about fan theories, i interpret the game and the lore by playing it and looking at all the clues myself thank you very much, so my interpretation of the lore is. different from most fans (you have to consider: very autistic, fnaf a Huge special interest for me. So when i analyze lore, i analyze as much as i can, every single secret. And i feel like a lot of people Miss main lore secret plot points. Im not trying to be a contraian, id love for the fans to have good theories. But like 70% of the time they dont. Or theyre dumb lil kids who blindly listens to mat pat)

my interpretation of sb is different from most fans and theories (mostly because I actually take help wanted and ar into account and can like. Use my brain to understand the differences between the vanessas (there are two. The murderer vanny, who we play as in help wanted, is referred to in ar, and is the one in the therapist tapes) and vanessa the nightguard, who's COMPLETELY unrelated and just an innocent nightguard who happens to have the same name and face as vanessa murderer (though it is also possible to me that like. Murderer vanessa chose to try to look more like nightguard vanessa in an attempt to shift the blame of her crimes, but we dont know this for sure.)and i dont think the therapist tapes are two different people because thats STUPID and it obviously is murderer vanessa (people just. Cannot possibly understand that a person being possessed by an entirely different entity might have changes in her prrsonality. Or that a person with anxiety might have something similar to selective mutism or at the VERY least: troubles speaking because of said murderer in her brain)

ANYWAYS THATS A HUGE ASS TANGENT. MY MAIN THOUGHTS AS OF PLAYING RUIN RN (Please dont spoil things for me im not completely done) is that mainly: i dont know who is speaking to us or who mimic is.

There may be two different people communicating with us with the vanni network (as evidenced by helpi changing eye colors and how like. Some of the motives seem conflicting?) Initially i was like "oh its glitchtrap or williams spirit or something." But that doesnt make any sense because glitchtrap gets Trapped and is worked against.

Even tho that was my first thought: i dont think mimic is burntrap, or william, or glitchtrap. But i dont know what it is, because there are no other obvious characters that it could be in mind (tho since its michaels old fnaf 6 restaurant theyre in, and we saw the blob down there, god knows it could be any number of old ass animatronics or spirits)

Another very fuckin obvious thought is: hey where the fuck is vanny. With the whole mask mechanic, the plot revolving around glitchtrap, ect, you THINK we'd see her st least once. And though she has a cameo in the bad ending which is clearly a vision/fantasy/trick, she doesnt actually appear. The INSTANT That we started this game i speculated: is she talking through helpi? The yellow eyes reminded me of an early sb teaser artwork where we see a close up of a vanessas face with striking, yellow eyes, and i was never sure the significance of that... But i dont think its related at all, as mimic seems to be the one speaking when helpi has yellow eyes. Is mimic related to vanny somehow? I wouldnt assume so.

Whats weird about vanny not being there is it makes it seem like shes not carrying out glitchtraps bidding, which is odd. Dont y'all come at me with that "Gregory helped her!" Crap, the burntrap ending is the canon ending so that never happened. It makes sense for her to be against him (shes never really been on her side, shes the RELUCTANT follower. She explicitly does not want to do any of the horrible shit, but shes beinf forved to) but i just. Gahh i cant figure it out

I WILL figure it out just you wait. I will figure out what my interpretation of the lore as so good as soon as I finish the game just you wait