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lemonsandmorelemons · 7 months
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Also. While I'm posting personal stuff. I've pretty much entirely quit vaping. yeah I switched to nic pouches instead but after two years that shit it's so nice and a small victory
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tee k.o. shirt winner from my friends party saturday
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if anyone wants to kno why mos hasnt updated. so these r my notes and i have no less that 7 different attempts at starting the chapter. and i still havent decided how to structure it
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desastre-gay · 4 months
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Why I believe Audrey two is Seymour's subconscious and not a man eating plant.
I need everyone to hold my hands, look me in the eyes and listen carefully when I say this is my own interpretation based on the musical 2022 production with jeremy jordan and christian borle.
Trigger warnings for: themes of mental illness especially psychosis, mentions of suicide, murder, dismemberment, paranoid delusions, reality not being what it seems, blood and gore and anything else in relation to little shop of horrors.
OK ANYWAYS ON WITH IT !
point number one: Seymour is not mentally well.
He is so open to persuasion and peer pressure as shown not only by how quickly he folds when audrey II asks him to feed him BLOOD but also with how easily mushnik is able to make him his son (my baby seymour is so lonely and desperate for any positive attention). He definitely has depression and in this theory i believe he also suffers from psychosis. The initial feedings to audrey II are acts of self harm as a result of his mental illness.
point number two: audrey II as an extension of seymour.
Audrey II becomes a confidant to seymour, especially when facing ethical dilemmas and his own moral ideals - see feed me (get it) where he becomes convinced orin deserves to die - however i don't think that it is as literal as it is shown on stage. audrey II is an extension of seymour's conscious and subconscious that seymour's psychosis creates as a visual outlet for his own feelings. In reality i theorised that audrey II is a simple plant. although it IS a new discovery it does not become sentient but still brings fame and fortune to mushnik's florist. You may be wondering, well why does he feed it blood then? MENTAL ILLNESS BABEY!!! bringing us back to point one that seymour's subconscious needs to rationalise everything, including that he needs to "feed" this plant to keep revenue coming and reward it for bringing him fame.
point number three: seymour's hands.
Let's skip forward a little bit to when seymour tells mushnik that he needs to go into the plant to retrieve their money. Specifically during this production (as far as i know) seymour gestures to audrey II whilst its mouth opens and then when it begins to close onto mushnik, he stares at his hands and turns them over - reminiscent of characters who have killed and stare at their hands in shock/ in awe of blood that coats them. I believe that seymour does this to show that mushnik does not actually get eaten by audrey II in reality, but is instead murdered by seymour using his hands and then dismembered - similar to orin - and hidden in soil around the florist, but mainly in audrey II.
point number four: audrey II relaying seymour's inner thoughts.
When mushnik confronts seymour initially about his murder of orin and asks him to go to the police, audrey II comes alive with another presence on the stage for the first time in the show (i do not count when someone is being fed to audrey II e.g orin's corpse/mushnik getting into audrey II or audience interaction). Audrey II drives paranoia into seymour's forefront of his mind with his words, getting more and more intense as mushnik tells him to go to the police and prove his innocence. Seymour's irrational and paranoid mind creates this driving force via audrey II, giving him the ability to rationalise the killing of his father figure lest he go to prison.
point number five: orin scrivello DDS.
Orin's death could be labelled a convenient accident - but thats what seymour wants to think - his inaction in helping orin out of the mask is the direct cause of his death and although it is not the same as shooting him point blank, i still consider this an act of murder, the first of many. As mentioned previously seymour is very easily convinced that orin deserves to die for his abusive acts to audrey I, and rationalises that he MUST kill him to feed audrey II who has rewarded him with fame, fortune, and eventually audrey I. He rationalises orin's murder which is the start of his aggressive downward spiral into deeper psychosis and murder and then buries him in audrey II's soil.
point number six: audrey I.
Audrey I is seymour's core desire and main motive for most of his actions - he takes various contracts for money to provide for audrey, he kills orin for audrey's safety, he kills mushnik so he doesn't get turned in for orin's murder and so he can stay with audrey. Everything is centred around audrey because she is a large driving force for seymour. Her influence on him is shown during feed me (get it) in the instrumental section when orin slaps audrey for forgetting her sweater in front of seymour, this is the turning point for seymour's morality and he becomes of the belief some people deserve to die - especially orin.
point six and a half: audrey I going somewhere that's green.
Now let's get to the more complicated part of audrey I's death. NO ONE PANIC I AM NOT THROWING AWAY THE THEORY BECAUSE SEYMOUR ISN'T IN THE SCENE INITIALLY THAT'S ACTUALLY AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT. Seymour experiences a pure psychotic break, hence audrey II being the only one present for the scene initially and conversing with audrey I for the first time. Audrey II IS seymour, just the part of him he harshly represses and barely acknowledges, hence the manifestation of audrey II as a man eating plant. He accidentally fatally injures audrey I and as she dies in his arms, he needs to rationalise it all as a lone act committed by audrey II and not himself. Seymour buries her in the soil along with orin and mushnik.
point seven: audrey II and detaching seymour from reality.
Audrey II serves as a way for seymour to disconnect himself from the reality of his crimes, creating a completely separate entity deemed to feed on blood (fresh and human - why was that specified? to rationalise the murders) and has evil motives (world conquest). What we see is not reality, but what seymour sees.
point eight: seymour's death/suicide.
We see seymour dive into audrey II in an attempt to kill it from the inside, in line with this theory i see this as seymour committing suicide in horror at his own acts and the part of him which manifested as audrey II in his mind. He willingly enters the 'man eating plant' which he has seen eat three separate people with only a small machete, implying he wouldn't know the outcome is death implies he is an idiot. i have theorised that he comes to after audrey I's death and burial and in horror and shame of his murderous acts and the way he justified them he chooses to kill himself - mostly due to the death of audrey I - in order to kill the part of him that allowed those things to happen. Kind of a Jekyll and Hyde situation, killing yourself to kill the second person inhabiting your body and brain.
point nine: the finale.
The finale we see is seymour's final brain functions, bringing all his rationalisations and delusions to a head, where audrey II lives on and goes on to conquer the world with millions of other man eating plants. He gets to see all his victims one final time, and shares a warning to not feed the plants, no matter what they offer you - do not feed delusions or rationalise evil deeds no matter the positive outcomes. Speaking of positive outcomes !
point ten: the rewards system tied to audrey II.
What emphasises and solidifies the rationalisations and delusions are the positive things that happen around seymour as he kills, such as getting into a relationship with audrey I, money, popularity, getting adopted, multiple contracts etc. Reminder that what we see in the show is seymour's perceptions, and that i theorise in reality they are much less positive and are blown out of proportion by seymour so that they are a significant positive outcome of his negative acts. He does not get together with audrey I, they simply interact more than before, the contracts are bad deals, the money isn't as great as it seems, he gets adopted but as we see in the show it is for ulterior motives (seymour sees it as an act of pure love).
conclusion:
I have little shop of horrors brain rot and i love this theory so much it adds a whole new layer to the show, especially the ending ! love the character of audrey II but i also love the idea that he is a manifestation of seymour's subconscious and not actually a man eating plant.
i did not proofread this. hope you enjoyed :)
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c-kiddo · 2 years
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tmn are all nd: a bunch o headcanons
(a sequel to these trans headcanons lol)
(also, warning before that this post is about neurodivergency and mental illness, so various mental illnesses will be mentioned. i dont want to single any out here, but you should probably skip this if thats something thats upsetting 2 you)
(also also, this is a infodump and not super in-depth or articulate, so sorry if i worded things wrong because i don’t mean to lol im just bad at reading things on screens so it might get jumbled. . )
beau: she’s got adhd and will hyperfocus and work All night on her theories and notes. perhaps she has audhd, has low-ish empathy and doesnt know how to regulate volume or realise her tone is usually annoyed sounding ksjnjkfs :''') also she has depression n that combined with adhd made her especially impulsive and self destructive, but she’s working on it, getting better :’) also had problems with substance abuse but the cobalt soul (dairon specifically) helped her get out of that. has cptsd because of her upbringing and abuse from her dad 
fjord: he’s got adhd too, babey!!!! also he’s got tourettes and his most common tics are: clearing his throat, a small head tilt, raising his eyebrows and grinding his teeth. he's a bit (a lot) impulsive and him and beau cant be trusted alone together they will get distracted and into trouble
yasha: she's autistic!! mostly effected by th social aspect of it.. like, talking to people is hard and she doesn’t get jokes or sayings and its all just tiring. also has p bad social anxiety. also memory loss from trauma as per canon.. struggles with when she does start to remember things but luckily has a support system so she doesnt just run off on her own like before :')  she also tends to disappear off like that due to sensory overload and just being overwhelmed in general bc of autism
caleb: i mean, he’s autistic n its basically canon. he experiences psychosis and has ptsd n depression/anxiety that has come from his trauma. he already had OCD before trauma and his obsessions revolve around hurting others A Lot, especially with fire after his trauma.. he also has dermatillomania due to ocd and anxiety. also has some sort of disordered eating in a self-punishment way.. .
veth: she has autistic-girlie-who-was-diagnosed-as-an-adult swag .. . and then the substance addiction that often comes with that i guess :''') .. also think she has body dysmorphia of course, especially during her being Nott, and some lingering things after too.. she just struggles to perceive her body for a while.. yeza rly helps ground her back to herself tho so thats nice :' ) . also she ptsd from her own murder + drowning , as per canon
molly: has npd and also he has a traumatic brain injury caused by all the things going on in his brain when his souls leave and he dies and things.. so struggles sometimes to find the right words and with memory and with mood regulation. also experiences psychosis and just, in general, strange things going on in his brain.. . also he likes sounds and textures all the time but will sacrifice th sounds for hanging out with yasha because its 110% worth it to sit with her instead ;w; they sign to eachother sometimes and have a made up sort of language
jester: she's got adhd and it means she loves having 10 conversations at once and spinning around and telling you all about her fave romance novel at lightning speed. she stims like all the time with little objects and ribbons and bells. also accidentaly yells a lot sknfsk and same as molly, likes noise n things all the time, gets kinda anxious or sad without it.. ;-; oh jester,, filling up space with noise so she doesnt have to be in the quiet..im not sure if i have any more thoughts about her rn :o
caduceus: he’s autistic (so overwhelmed by noises and too much all the time, also his empathy is fluctuating and he's not sure how to perceive it.. its confusing, he can be very empathetic and then, sometimes he's just in focus-mode and totally doesnt get at all what the vibes th other person is putting out is).. he’s got (inattentive) adhd. also depersonalisation derealisation disorder. and experiences psychosis since it was triggered by being alone in the grove so long + consuming hallucinogens a lot. he tends to just deal with it and not to tell tmn though, even though most of the time there's some little whispery noise or a fuzzy shape around, he's not scared mostly, only when he's triggered by something... also bad anxiety sometimes that he doesnt know how to deal with so he usually casts calm emotions on himself to help, or the herbs he chews (or smokes) for his joint pain help it. and also, his eating is Disorded but doesn’t quite realise (denial, ignoring it perhaps) the eating habits he has aren’t healthy,... he's just. kinda messed up still from all that time alone.. he had his own odd sometimes nonsensical reasons behind ways he treated his body and some of them stuck. also omg this section is a mile long im sorry,  but also he has dyslexia and dyspraxia and dyscalculia . .. numbers and letters and walking without bumping into stuff is tricky. also thats why his fine motor skills for writing /drawing aren't so good like in canon :-3 
ok,. thee end. good night now u_u zz
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trainingdummyrabbit · 10 months
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!!! I wanna see the fan made abno!!!
Also a Another question..... Fave abromality story wise :D
HI HAI IM WORKING ON POSTING IT STILL but reallyquick im gonna answer this second question so i can get in my allotted Controlled Distraction Time <33 yippy (<- still has drawing to do)
iam unfortunately Completely Incapable of ever picking Just One Thing (especially for stories so varied,) so ill just list a few of my favorites :] of the ones ive read n retained...
- Opened Can of Wellcheers: LETS GET FUCKEN SHRIMPIN' BABEY YEAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! - Funeral of the Dead Butterflies: Love this funky lil guy. Hope u get a break from The Horrors sometime soon bestie <33 (<- they will not.) - Fragment of the Universe: this is gonna be really funny in like an hour. just a lil thang :] if u get driven mad by the secrets of the universe then like i think thats just a skill issue on ur part tbh... - Snow Queen: really good and fun story but also MEAN. TO ME. - LittleRed + Wolf: GIRLIES WHEN THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE CONTINUES!!! \o/ - Blue Star: girlies will be like 'im sooo mentally well' and then get assigned blue stars ego equipment like 🤔 okaaaaay. 🙄 (<- a personal favorite to give to their Fucked Up Lil Blorbos)
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aireyverkhovensky · 11 months
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omg i just inhaled ur fem garashir series. good kush! Garak is somehow more mentally ill in this
thats just what women are like babey
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pervigilatrix · 4 years
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I am ✨𝒕𝒓𝒂𝒖𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒔𝒆𝒅✨
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babygirldennis · 4 years
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Someone does me a simple favor without asking for anything in return, causing me to experience crippling guilt and the desire to stab myself through th brain with a rapier for an entire week straight. I am normal.
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tiredrobin-scooted · 4 years
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[image description: sloppy vent doodles. in the first doodle, my sona stands, one arm crossing their torso to grip their other arm. their tail is tucked between their legs, and they’re crying. in the second doodle, my sona is scrubbing away tears. in the third doodle, my sona sits curled up on the ground, tail wrapped around their side and wings drooping onto the ground. they’re saying “This is allowed”. end image description.]
bro here r some vent doodles becuz i am sad but in a way where i am okay with it
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goldiipond · 4 years
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aren't you tired??? You're always talking about how much work you have to do but it seems like you're always online at pretty much any hour and you spend a lot of time drawing. Between tumblr, art, and schoolwork literally how do you function every day
great question! i don't
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standcanons · 5 years
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Kakyoin became interested in precious gems  because of Hierophant Green, who likes to make creations out of emeralds and often pulls his user into antique shops and artisan bazaars during their journey to look for unique finds.
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ufonaut · 4 years
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yes we’re goin thru it tonight lads but also physically cant stop thinking about “my solitary unlikeness which made me no companion, but an acquaintance”
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snowisflesh-blog123 · 4 years
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hate emotions like damn bitch calm down i get youre angry and upset but that’s no excuse to erase ur entire personality and existence, u’ll just be putting your posters back up tomorrow in tears anyway
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nearthedoor · 5 years
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i’m so tired and i’m so sick i’m so tired and i’m so sick i’m so tired and i’m so sick i’m so tired and i’m so sick and i don’t want a saviour i don’t want to get better i just want somebody to know exactly how tired i am. i just want a friend to hold me until the ache eases.
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pawpng · 6 years
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me : so fucking stressed i sob everytime i see the work i have to do
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