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starry-blue-echoes · 2 months
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Okay, I just got here. Sorry for intruding and I'm kind of freaking out about part 4 of Star Swap.
Because there are two Jotaros. Why is nobody talking about the fact that there are two Jotaros? Am I missing something??? 
Unless I am completely failing in Star Swap lore, in order to not become super convoluted and insane, a universe is localized to a Swap… probably? Anyway from what I understand three universes have an event happening in them and Star Swap is a series… except there's also an OLDER Jotaro here in Part 4! which would be the same Jotaro that experienced part 4 as Josuke! Which is causing problems in my brain.
… I was thinking it's either Joseph and Giono is the exception -Thanks to Hermit Purple Rrequiem- and swaps actually jumps across universes making Older Part 4 Jotaro have that Canon backstory.
…Or… hear me out..
 JoJo
 Specifically, Jotaro gets some of that Time Jumpy Amnesia and has not a single fucking clue what happened to himself.
JUST HIM 
No one else
He is the sole one that gets bonk with a forgot stick
For all Jotaro knows: he blacked out, got possessed, and went to Egypt. Everything went well. His mom got cured and people survived, but STILL. said person that possessed him made a bunch of friends and now Jotaro has to deal with them. HE has to rely on other people's information to figure out what the hell HAPPENED.
Jotaro still gets that Battle Experience in and gets those cryptic forgotten fog of memories from the trip But Yeah
Jotaro has no idea what happened to him when that guy was possessing him. Jotaro doesn't know! he doesn't remember shit!!! All people got is theories.
I have a lot of thoughts and this is probably not even an issue.ARGGGG
.. I'm here thinking that for The Star Swap parts 3 and 4 to connect in an interesting way is Memory Blockage or else Part 4 Older Jotaro would have to walk on fucking eggshells if something wasn't blocking his memories because if he talks or says anything that doesn't link up then he breaks time. Jotaro's fault for actively getting involved!
Probably. I don't know!!! I'm just thinking!!! 
you're correct, Parts 3 and 4 have been criminally neglected amongst all this chaos, so this is p e r f e c t
to clarify the universe shenanigans of everything: I've always been thinking that each "set" exists in its own universe. 1 and 6, 2 and 5, and then 3 and 4 all exist in their own sort of "pocket universe" just so we don't need to keep track of of all the inevitable changes and how they influence each other
that being said, funnily enough what you've brought up with Jotaro is REALLY close to what I've been imagining too!
Jotaro is So Fucking Lost when he wakes up back home. He feels like complete and utter shit and is covered in more bandages than he's ever had before. The last thing he remembers is his mom leaving after visiting him in the prison cell after he tried to shoot himself with Star Platinum
only...... when did Star Platinum have a name? When had it stopped being an evil spirit?
when had he stopped being scared of it?
Kakyoin and Joseph are of course INCREDIBLY worried by Jotaro's apparent and very sudden shift in personality. And of course, this panic only multiplies when they find they think Jotaro's stand has been changed as well. They immediately think it's a Stand attack......
but then Holly steps forward and denies this. That this is how Jotaro normally acts and more importantly, that she remembers seeing Star in the jail
now, technically this might be bending the rules a little bit, but I think it would be interesting to give Holly some..... memory weirdness. Maybe we can tie it into her Stand somehow, or maybe it's just For The Plot, but Holly has two distinct sets of memories before she collapsed from her illness
One where Jotaro comes home with her, quiet and awkward and open in a way he hadn't been since he was a child. And another where he refused to leave and shot himself in an attempt to goad a spirit hovering over his shoulder
this then raises the incredibly uncomfortable idea that the Jotaro they'd gone to Egypt with was the imposter. That there had been a fake in their midst the entire time and they never knew. Was he working with Dio? Another group? What was his goal? Why had he done it? And of course, the biggest question of all, where was Jotaro the entire time and why doesn't he remember?
because it's obvious Jotaro was somewhere. He has skills and knowledge he hadn't before. He's different, he's grown in some ways, but has receded in others
Electricity and loud sounds terrify him in a way that can't be described as simple fear
they do what they can to help and figure things out, but they can never find any leads. It actually during these investigations that Jotaro decides to start working with the Speedwagon Foundation on the side and "rekindles" his friendships with the Crusaders
(he finds himself drawn to Kakyoin at times. Or to be more specific, he's drawn to his Stand. The colors and shapes and eyes all feel so tantalizingly familiar, and sometimes he finds himself talking to the being as if expecting a response)
years go by, and the fog around his memories stays. It bothers him less as more time passes and he makes new memories with people who had a headstart on their relationship, but there's always a quiet niggling in the back of his mind about what could've happened
and then a decade later he finds a boy with a different face but identical Stand and temperament to match
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Oh hey I'm Back
It took me a year
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I miss them
omg!! just one extremely haunted man and his squad of murder besties... THERE'S EVEN A DEVICETUS...
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starry-blue-echoes · 25 days
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Star Swap is so hyped for me!!!  cuz Jotaro just has to go through his trauma! Jotaro gets to uncover what happened! Protect his past self! He has to inform his past self that things are going to go well In the past his mom was going to be okay and nobody (Important Dio get fucked) dies. But also things are going to go bad because that brat that past him is currently inhabiting right now. Will make everyone in the past freak out so bad because he didn't write down a single thing explaining anything. 
SO RUDE JOSUKE! and low-key life-ruining.
I know you said in general that Jotaro Is going to have a thing with electricity and Loud Noises (which I think are Kira's bombs I'm pretty sure) I also think *Click is just going to Immediately alert him. But I would also like to add RATS.
 Because I can't get over the fact that two Jotaros with their same Stands are going to be facing off with two rats with their same stands and our two Jotaros are going to get CLAPPED.  Those rats were INSANE.
Anytime Adult man Jotaro nearly gets killed
The teenager Jotaro’s brain: FREAKS OUT
I think the main issue here is that Jotaro has no actual context so Jotaro looks at a radio tower “I have emotions towards this And have no idea why and that's a problem.” I also feel like he's probably going to be Vigilant toward any unexplainable feelings that seem to emanate from that memory Gap so those Feelings just kind of get Amplified until he gets an explanation.
Having said that, I do believe that it is quite possible for our adult man Jotaro to ping Yoshikage Kira  Before he does anything in front of anyone.  Passing each other on the road but only once.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS yesyesyesyesyesyes
GOD this is all so delicious I barely know where to start
I didn't even think about just how much the mystery of Jotaro's "past" is going to tie into all this. Part 4 really is just a mass of mysteries and uncovering so many decade old secrets, and now some of the secrets have become personal
(Also uh. Before we get into things, clarifying nicknames are likely in order <3 let's just keep it simple and easy, Jojo is the teen and Jotaro is the adult)
but just. Gods can you imagine the pure chaos when Jotaro and Jojo meet for the first time. Jojo of course realized what was going on first, after all Jotaro's style.... really hasn't changed much. Not to mention the subtle shift in the air when the other man used his Stand
and of course, when Jotaro realizes he gets thrown for a loop. He came here to check up on his father's illegitimate child and do some poking around for the arrows. Now he's suddenly being nailed in the face with the past that's eluded him for years
it's going to be a MASSIVE relief for Jojo to hear, even if he doesn't express it fully. That mom is safe, that everything turns out okay.
He is however, equally as frustrated by Jotaro's lack of clarity in his memories and starts planning out a very aggressive note to leave behind when they finally switch back
and YESSSSSSSSSS with the clicking noise and rat thing, that's absolutely perfect. Especially with the rat thing since well. They move :)
and the worst part of it all, the electricity and explosions and clicks and rats, is Jotaro doesn't know why. All he knows is that this is a danger to him, that it is life threatening and pain causing and he needs to get away
(and speaking of Bug Eaten, Tonio is going to be getting a L O T more visits than in canon on account of the whole..... Being The Only Healer In This Entire Stand Ridden Town)
I LOVE the concept of Jotaro getting vague feelings of events to come. Because his memories aren't fully gone per say, they exist and are present but they're hazy and muddled and unclear. And yet, with every day he spends in Morioh, every adventure he hears the kids have gone through and every adventure he gets roped into as well, they become clear
But rarely do the warning systems help. At least, not in any way that truly helps. After all, Fate and the Future has already been decided. every action has already been taken, every fate known, every thing unavoidable. This is not a second chance at the life Jotaro had lived, it was Jojo's first chance
that's the most taunting part of these feelings. How vague and muddled and fuzzy they are. A feeling of deja vu can mean a new ally or a hated enemy and he can't differentiate the two
when he eventually realises this, Jotaro shifts his energy to something he can do, and that's training the kids. He came back to his own time a competent fighter and with the ability to stop time, so dammit he knows he can at least try
...........wait a moment I had
a FUN idea to play with regarding the time stop
so. Given the fact Jotaro learned it essentially via a slight paradox, there would be no relation to Dio at all. There wouldn't be any baggage or trauma attached to it at all
at least...... not with Jotaro that is :)
the other Crusaders? Who fought and nearly died against such an ability? That's an entirely different ball park :)))
plus, it could also lead to some fun angst in terms of "Theories Of Where Jotaro Was" now including captured and possibly trained by Dio which wasn't a fun thought for anybody involved
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The sisters @ Ingo: Pspspspspsps come on the boat to Galar. That loser of a Professor said their are gigantic monsters of epic proportions that need a group of people to fight there.
Ingo: Although that sounds nice. I am incredibly sorry as you see I have responsibilities as a warden-
Rei who has already been captured and is currently on the boat that will be heading Galar: I need help please don't leave me alone with them
it's time to take a vacation!
THEY'RE NOT ASKING
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Sinnoh: we had the warden for God knows how long if anything ACTUALLY BAD happens to him we will implode.
unfortunately none of the sinnoh legends have two syllable names so i cannot make a jolene parody. imagine it worked anyway. i'm begging of you please don't take my man
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Akari: Heyy Volo. I have a confession. Me and this funky train man came from the future. Since we still exist it is guaranteed that you would fail. Sooo you should just ...calm down and be an normal person about this by checking out these wholesome memes I got on my God phone.
volo takes off his hat and jumps up and down on it
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I've only posted three things originally / not on other people's blogs and I have six bots following me and I don't know how to get rid of them.
blocking a blog will force-unfollow them from you, HOWEVER you should also report any obvious bots as spam
i don't know how it works on mobile, but on desktop, if you pull up their dashboard blog (the tumblr.com/blogname link) and click the ... menu next to the follow & etc buttons, "report" and "block" will be two of the options. it's pretty straightforward from there.
(iirc they don't Technically violate tumblr guidelines, and should be flagged as spam, not explicit material)
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Proposed idea: in my specialty, script!
Demon Charm and coin: walking, looking for people to mug at night
Feral child about to be adopted Into The Sisterhood: wow people to beat up
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Clover: You may have beaten me but I can walk into the sun unlike you losers..
Coin: S-SHUT UP LIVESTOCK
Clover:* sticks her tongue out
Coin:* Huffs and looks away
___
Clover: I know! I should get stronger like you guys by becoming a demon slayer
Both: this is a horrible plan.
Clover: You can't stop me! I already got a sword!!
___
I got excited and I wasn't going to miss my chance this time.
qqmjqjhqjh my favorite thing about this is the use of "mug" implying they dont even. kill people. they just do petty theft. clover isnt even an outlier, coin and charm just have not gotten on the eating-people tip yet. is it a choice or are they just THAT pathetic
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Thank you so much for the advice
Have a merry old Christmas
o7 you too soldier
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For GG is more of a : this is my specialty (japan). Game freak is using this real life era as an inspiration. here are all my sources. here all the images. It's not feudal Japan that are using for inspiration, get it right.
He doesn't really take account of what it means for the Pokemon lore which is fine because that's what his job is. To point out historic connections.
(Kind of like how back when game theory was ok and he just applied math to strange scenarios. It wasn't really about the lore of the series.)
And to be fair this period of time could be in any time on the Pokemon timeline it doesn't have to correlate to the actual year.
I imagine that they're (the people who keep insisting) taking any concrete way to place Arceus and just running with it despite the fact that it really doesn't make any sense. Or perhaps they fear that they're being 'culturally insensitive' if they don't adhered to that time frame?
oohhhh so it's less "i'm going to cling to these details to INSIST that they have these broad canonical implications" and more "hey, these details are referenced from specific irl things, isn't that neat!" that's way better. (saying this they casually sheathed a large blade)
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Slams hands on the ground: HEY HEY GUYS
I remember!!!! The Goomba YouTuber did it!!
THAT GAIJIN GOOMBAH GUY
He's the one who said - before even Arceus came out, might I add- that everyone else was wrong and how it was set in the Meiji era.
I just rewatched the video and there are some points. He's very well researched. it's just that other people take it too far. (If I recall correctly I think he was in partnership with Game Theory before so you know how that is where they get really insistent)
now is this actually well-researched or "hey look i recognized some minor aesthetic details that appear to be pulling from real-world things IGNORE THE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY LOOK HOW GOOD I CAN PICK OUT DETAILS"
given that this is a game theory partner and this was before pla even came out are you fucking kidding i'm going to take a wild guess that it was the latter
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Yeahhh I had it practically done for a while now but what really spurs me on was me finally playing tears of the kingdom (spoilers For the Rito phenomenon)
I mean
Ship in the sky? Above a snowy Mountain?
With a giant long screaming floating monster (Devicetus)
But mostly the musiccc
Colgera Wind Dungeon Boss Battle | Zelda Tears of the Kingdom Soundtrack
I can do a whole essay on why this reminds me of the Platinum Clan. It's got the flute, it's got reverse notes for ghosts. The melody and the hype.
It it just encapsulates the most haunted man.
Frozen Rito Village - The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (OST) 
[ angstaceanon: Haha
I accidentally linked up the Lesser quality version 
Let me just
Colgera Battle - The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom OST
It has way better build up. I swear. ]
HONESTLY fair
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