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armageddidnt · 9 months
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The look on Crowley’s face when he asks, when he pleads with Aziraphale to tell him he said no; the shock, the horror, the panic, the helpless desperation shining in his eyes.
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Stab me it would hurt less
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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Yall realize this means that the MOST MINOR MIRACLE that Crowley and Aziraphale are capable of performing, when done together, could bring back 25 people from the dead??? Next season, if they ever realize their true power, it is going to be over for heaven AND hell
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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Good Omens dropping hints that Crowley has apparently Forgotten at least some of his former high-and-mighty angelic status in heaven.
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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Aziraphale and Crowley try to perform one (1) tiny miracle
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Supernatural Dumbasses™️ (that’s a nat 1 on the stealth check)
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No but this literally means that when Aziraphale and Crowley combine even a fraction of their power, the miracles they can create are almost unstoppable. I can’t believe the power of their love is like one of the strongest things the angels have ever seen asjalsfakkdjakla
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armageddidnt · 8 months
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I just want to use this post to talk about how much I appreciate the way Good Omens does gender. Angels/demons canonically don’t have sexes and don’t subscribe to the concept of gender at all. Throughout the show, we see lots of angels and demons varying gender presentation and it’s considered perfectly normal. Even with all the rules angels/demons have to follow to avoid getting into trouble with their respective sides, there’s never been any rules whatsoever regarding gender. Angels and demons exist, they have names, they dress how they want, and whatever humans think is irrelevant. As someone who is non-binary and agender, it warms my heart to think of an existence where gender isn’t limiting at all. I’m really grateful to Neil and Terry for making a story about existing beyond gender that has had such widespread impact.
And regarding how they interact with humans, on the show we’ve seen a variety of pronouns but what I find interesting is the characters use only one at a time. Gabriel is always he, Beelzebub and Muriel are they, Shax is she, Aziraphale and Crowley are mostly he. And Neil said in an ask reply that any pronouns you use for angels/demons aren’t wrong because to do it right, you need to know the tongue of the angels. I guess it’s sort of my headcannon that when they talk about each other, angels/demons instinctively translate into whatever human pronoun they want to use. Like they could never misgender each other because human language is too limited anyway and they’re just using it as best they can. Idk I just really appreciate seeing a race of beings that innately understand each other’s gender/identity and have absolutely no concept of judgement about it.
Finally, please enjoy my favorite Good Omens screencaps of characters not giving a flying fig about human gender norms.
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Our favorite gender-fluid/genderqueer demon
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Angels having gendered and non-gendered names but only one clothing style: bureaucracy
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Aziraphale rocking Madame Tracy’s dress
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The Gender Ambiguity that is Lord Beelzebub
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Whatever the heck Hastur is doing here
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Mutt’s wonderfully delightful non-binary spouse
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Pollution saying “no gender only garbage” (which is relatable honestly)
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armageddidnt · 7 months
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Hello I’m here to share some random thoughts on these two gifs specifically and what I think it reveals about Crowley’s character and the good omens universe as a whole
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So here are two instances in which Crowley is being called “good” or “nice” and the biggest difference is in how Crowley reacts to it. When Mrs. Sandwich calls him nice, he doesn’t agree with it, but he sort of smiles, corrects her gently and thanks her. When Aziraphale calls him nice, Crowley vehemently denies it and physically pushes back. He is enraged, insulted, and resentful that Aziraphale would even call him such a thing. And I think this really highlights the realization Crowley has had about heaven, hell, God, humanity, and morality since he fell.
Crowley understands that when a human calls him good, that is coming from a place of kindness, admiration, and personal morality beyond whatever rules are expected to be followed. As Aziraphale says: unlike angels and demons, humans have a choice in being good or bad, so when one of them recognizes Crowley as good, he knows the humans understand that concept of morality as a choice and are recognizing the fact that Crowley has also made a conscious decision to be good. When Aziraphale or another angel/demon calls him good, he knows that is coming from a place of adherence to the rules, from a place of invariably following God’s will regardless of the consequences or objective morality of it. Being called “good” is synonymous to being called “someone who follows the will of God,” which is not something Crowley usually thinks is the right or kind thing to do. Crowley almost seems to see it as an insult, that an angel/demon thinks he is incapable of having free will or following his own morality beyond the rules set by heaven and hell. With humans, “good” is a compliment, but with angels and demons, it’s an acknowledgment of conformity.
Within the good omens universe as a whole, this represents the fundamental realization that has shaped Crowley’s character and the realization that he has never been able to get Aziraphale to grasp. Heaven is not inherently good and hell is not inherently bad; the real morality is in choice and making a voluntary decision to make the world better or worse for others. I think this is one of the fundamental messages of good omens and I think this realization will have world-altering consequences for heaven, hell, and humanity. Because having individual morality and choice invites the possibility of going against God’s will, which is pretty much the foundational structure that controls angels and demons’ entire existence.
Anyway, I think the fact that Crowley makes this distinction is very telling about his understanding of morality and the universe as a whole and I think it’s going to become one of the fundamental themes underlying the final season.
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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Okay the Metatron IMMEDIATELY saying these things the second he sees Aziraphale is like a MAJOR RED FLAG for me. Why would he be so interested in what Crowley thought if his entire plan wasn’t hinged on Crowley’s reaction to it?? And despite being on ‘opposite sides,’ Aziraphale and Crowley have often demonstrated similar thinking when it comes to morality, so it stands to reason that if this is the opinion the Metatron has of Crowley, he would likely have similar feelings toward Aziraphale as well. I think he offered Aziraphale the choice to “restore” Crowley KNOWING it would drive him away. Because the best way to control Aziraphale is to remove him from Crowley and that’s exactly what he did.
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And that’s not even mentioning this look from the Metatron when he glances over at Crowley just before stealing Aziraphale away for a Private Chat
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like Thinly Veiled Contempt who ??????
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armageddidnt · 8 months
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Something I think we don’t talk about enough is that in every single instance where someone has defied the Great Plan, it’s because of love. Crowley fell because he loved the universe too much to just stay quiet and watch it be destroyed. Aziraphale blatantly lied to God/Heaven to protect Adam and Eve and to save Job’s children. Aziraphale and Crowley stop Armageddon because of their love for humanity and each other. The Archangel Gabriel and Lord Beelzebub leave their positions as some of the most powerful beings in creation and get Heaven and Hell to abandon The Great War because they fell in love with each other. Even when the demons fell from Heaven for apparently defying the will of God, they still work to carry out The Great Plan and end humanity and win The Great War. The only time anyone truly steps out of the narrative of Good vs Evil is for love.
Makes you wonder why love and God’s Great Plan seem to be mutually exclusive. God creates the humans?? Don’t fall in love with them because She’ll drown them in floods, kill them just to win a bet, and destroy their entire world after 6,000 years just to see what happens. Being an angel/demon teaches you to be detached from everything and that nothing matters except blindly following the Divine Plan. Does God want to prevent the angels She created (and by proxy, the demons) from experiencing love because that makes them easier to control ?? [Remember: when Aziraphale and Crowley performed even the most minor miracle together, the power of their love was enough to bring 25 people back from the dead WHILE actively trying NOT to conjure a powerful miracle] They’re so used to working alone and fighting on “opposite sides” ,,, what else could angels and demons accomplish if they embraced their love and embraced each other ??? Were the two “sides” just created to keep angels and demons fighting and prevent them from ever discovering their true power ??? Does She just not have any concept or understanding of love at all and therefore it’s never even present in Her ineffable plans ???
Love is the one thing that always seems to go against the will of God and I think love is going to bring about a reckoning that not even God Herself knows how to handle
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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Okay I’ve been reading a lot of discourse on the time stop theory and it does make a certain sense but there are some inconsistencies that leave me even more confused than before. Hear me out:
So here is the clock before the kiss. Seems to say around 9:25
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And here is the clock directly after the Metatron returns. Now it seems to be around 9:40-9:45 ish even though only a few minutes of episode time has passed.
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Also, when the Metatron returns, Aziraphale seems to be weirdly preoccupied with the clock and keeping himself directly between it and the Metatron
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Neil and the entire production team have been so careful and deliberate about every little detail this season, I just cannot accept that it wasn’t intentional or just happened to be an oversight. At the same time, there doesn’t seem to be any point during the scene in which they might’ve actually stopped time to discuss something or do anything else. The only cut we get is right after Crowley walks out and before the Metatron walks in, but it doesn’t make sense for Crowley to leave and then re-enter the bookshop again to do some thing else during that cut away time. So I feel like something definitely happened here, but it’s not at all clear what it could have been. I don’t personally think it was the body swap because Crowley had already left at that point. But then why do the clock hands and Aziraphale’s behavior seem so intentional if something beyond the obvious wasn’t going on 
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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We’ve noticed that Crowley has been taking his glasses off a lot more in front of Aziraphale this season because he’s trying to show him that he trusts him and he’s trying to be more open. So when he starts his confession, he takes them off, but then when he realizes Aziraphale is rejecting him, he realizes that he bared his entire soul, he was his most vulnerable to Aziraphale, and the angel took it and threw it all away. Nothing lasts forever, Aziraphale says. Crowley seems to take it as Aziraphale’s devotion is fleeting. He and Aziraphale could never last. They could never be more important to Aziraphale than the eternity of heaven and God. So Crowley puts his glasses back on and hides himself away again. Stab me it would hurt less
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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Okay I’ve also been reading a lot of discourse on the spiked coffee theory and some of it makes sense and some of it is just confusing, but at the end, Aziraphale just looks so suspiciously conflicted, I feel like there has to be something happening beyond his feelings toward Crowley and leaving him behind. Initially, Aziraphale seems concerned and reluctant about leaving his bookshop
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But then, after a few seconds of thinking, he seems to have a change of heart and is prepared to leave again 
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He just seems to go back and forth more than once about whether or not he actually wants to leave. As soon as he’s about to say something against going to Heaven, it’s almost like there’s an internal voice that realigns his priorities 
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Then when the Metatron reveals the name of the next stage in Heaven’s Great Plan, Aziraphale clearly seems disturbed by this information. But after a few seconds of thinking, he seems to push all that aside and accept his new place in Heaven again 
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Everyone’s been pointing out the connection between the almond syrup in the coffee and cyanide, so there’s a possibility that the Metatron gave something to Aziraphale that did something to his behavior. Because I think he looks so conflicted in this scene, beyond just trying to convince himself that going to Heaven is the right choice. It almost seems like he’s trying to resist something and whatever that something is keeps reasserting itself.
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Even after deciding to get in the elevator, he still looks so anxious and divided about his choice. This season has been so phenomenal, it’s like impossible to know if this is just Michael doing some really good acting or dropping hints that there’s something less obvious going on. I just really would not be surprised if it turns out Aziraphale was not completely in control of his actions here. 
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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Good Omens Season 2 + Pride and Prejudice Headcannon
Okay hear me out: so you know how in season 2 there were a ton of references to Jane Austen being an author and a master spy? And the pride and prejudice books? And Aziraphale throwing an entire Jane Austen-themed ball in his book shop? And the production designers literally styling that set to look like a Jane Austen novel setting? So basically, in pride and prejudice, the first time Mr. Darcy proposes to Elizabeth, she says no. He’s fallen in love with her, but she hasn’t gotten past her prejudice of him and how she thinks he’s like an elitist snob. So my theory is that this season of the show was done with those Jane Austen novels in mind, which means that the finale is only the first ‘proposal.’ Crowley shared his heart and was willing to give everything to his angel, but Aziraphale isn’t ready and hasn’t yet worked through his prejudice toward anything that’s not directly associated with heaven. He hasn’t let go of his blind and misguided faith in heaven. But there will be another proposal! We have yet to see season three! So all is not lost and we better damn well get our happily ever after Jane Austen novel ending 😤
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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“No nightingales”
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I think in this song, ‘a Nightingale singing in Berkeley Square’ symbolizes something rare and beautiful and miraculous, or perhaps something that’s impossible, or just never happens. Either way, the fact that Crowley says “No nightingales” in the finale makes it sound like he’s saying ‘I thought that we could make it but all our miracles are up,’ or perhaps ‘all the beauty we once had is gone now.’
Stab me it would hurt less
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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Okay some thoughts on The Final Fifteen: it’s important to note here that at first Aziraphale wanted absolutely no part in the Metatron’s plans. He had no desire to return to heaven and no desire to be the next archangel. But as soon as the Metatron mentions restoring Crowley, Aziraphale is almost instantly on board. He comes back to his bookshop, literally beaming with joy about the idea of making Crowley an angel again. So that’s why it’s so frustrating to me when Aziraphale still insists on taking the offer and going to heaven even after Crowley refuses to come with him. Because it just seems like the condition of being able to bring Crowley along is the only thing that seemed to change Aziraphale’s mind and made him agree in the first place. So now I’m just really confused about what Aziraphale is really thinking and what he really wants because of course, neither of them are able to talk about their thoughts or feelings for the absolute life of them. I’m honestly not sure what I believe at this point
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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What is absolutely killing me about this finale is that we’ve been shown that everything we wanted to happen can actually happen. Proof: Beelzebub and Gabriel. Now that we know that it can happen, It’s all the more devastating that it didn’t happen to Aziraphale and Crowley. And what’s even more frustrating is that Beelzebub and Gabriel were able to do it in literally only like 3 to 4 years since meeting each other. Gabriel was the archangel, the literal ruler of the angels, and he was able to change his entire ideology and core faith/belief system in just 4 years. Aziraphale and Crowley have known each other for 6000 blasted years. They are the most important person in either of their entire lives. They’ve depended on each other for millennia, they would do anything for each other, Aziraphale has been low key doubting the ineffable plan for centuries and yet he still can’t find a way to meet Crowley in the middle. It just absolutely destroys me that we’ve been shown it can be done, and then, in the very same episode it’s been denied for Aziraphale and Crowley. It’s like Neil stuck the knife in and then started twisting it too. Stab me it would hurt less
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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Can I just talk about why I’m so utterly devastated that Aziraphale chose the job in Heaven? Over being together with Crowley? First, I feel like Azirapahle should know that heaven is 100% trying to use and manipulate him by giving him this position. He has seen time and time again what literally all of the other angels think of him for remaining on earth, associating with Crowley in anyway, and literally stopping Armageddon. He is the most hated angel to exist (perhaps besides Gabriel), and he should know that none of the angels will ever truly like him or care about him. Not in the way that Crowley will. Also, he really should have learned from what happened to Gabriel. This was Heaven’s Chosen Archangel, and when Gabriel dared to choose a demon, when he dared to have a different opinion and decide that Armageddon wasn’t such a good idea after all (which is exactly what Aziraphale has done throughout the entire show), Gabriel was immediately cast out, threatened with destruction, and had all his memories erased. It is completely beyond me how Aziraphale doesn’t realize he is dangerously close to following that same path and that taking this job will leave him under the threat of such punishment for basically eternity. Gabriel was the Archangel, and even he was not safe. I know Aziraphale wants to do good, I know he wants to make a difference, but it just seems so inadvisable to do it by taking such an obviously dangerous position.
Second, another thing Aziraphale should have realized is that there’s no way Crowley would ever want to go back to heaven. Crowley said in season 1 that he won’t ever be forgiven. “Unforgivable, that’s what I am.” Crowley has been trying for the last 6000 years to convince Aziraphale that in all the ways that count, heaven is no better than hell and being an angel doesn’t actually mean you’re good. Crowley has been extremely vocal about his distaste for the Ineffable Plan, the wrath and punishment of God, and his hatred for Gabriel and any other angels that have threatened Aziraphale in the past. He’s just expressed so much dislike for heaven and God and angels that it absolutely blows my mind that Aziraphale would think Crowley would be excited about being “restored.” It just seems like such a fundamental part of Crowley‘s character: he will never be content to follow orders and he always asks questions when he knows something isn’t right. And Aziraphale is the one who should know Crowley best, and has known him for thousands of years, and apparently Aziraphale doesn’t even understand that about him. I’m not sure if I think that Aziraphale really should have known this and wouldn’t have offered the choice to Crowley, or if I’m just disappointed in Aziraphale because he did. I know Aziraphale has all the brainwashing and toxic culture of heaven to deal with, but Crowley has been trying to show him for 6000 years and Aziraphale would probably know better than anyone about the suffering that has been caused by heaven and God. (Not to mention the fact that Gabriel was able to do this and overcome millennia of brainwashing and toxic ideology in just 4 freaking years) So it’s really hard to accept that Aziraphale would be excited and take this position at all since there’s just so many reasons why it’s the absolute worst thing for him to do right now. His options are literally: the worst choice imaginable, or, be with Crowley and get everything he (or at least Crowley) has ever wanted. I know that Aziraphale still has to get to the point where he wants Crowley more than he wants heaven but damn does it hurt while he takes literal millennia to figure it out.
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