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nomiyakazehaya · 3 months
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some "warm-up" kh cheebs of my favorite kings
or rather, these were supposed to be just warm up doodles but ended up becoming something more 😩
just inks for now, but i definitely should come back to color these at a later date 🥲
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infinitelilith · 7 months
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There's actually a very easy way to determine what the objectively best Kingdom Hearts game is
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electionfraudking · 1 year
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Hwow pong is otpp long tp joxe okn te w baauhymomm. Gpo pr message bow. Loe lwaa acayrws
Amywai. Soowow
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I don't. Really know what this says
With the emojis though im guessing things are less serious?
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dewprisms · 3 months
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in despair bc I STILL just cannot think of anything for Seirdux to gift to Xigbar bc he has no accessories to wear since he just wears the coat and not much else
I don't wanna do another red scarf bc it likely doesn't mean anything to him + ppl got really attached to Lea's scarf just for him to never wear it again
a hair tie isn't gonna be noticeable or much of a gift, a special eyepatch would deviate too much from canon for me (also idt thats even a thing??)
I really need him to ditch the coat and get a new outfit in kh4 so I can make up an excuse that something he's wearing was from me
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shshshshshowrunner · 1 year
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[invisible to xigbar]
like listen i'm aroaceflux but like even when im not feeling any attraction he is literally so visually interesting i end up looking at him anyway. like come on that is such good character design metaphorically speaking
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catboygirljoker · 10 days
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in the club freaking it in a sensitive style (ignore the divorce)
[video ID: recorded footage of the data greeting from the kingdom hearts 3 DLC. xigbar has a sad expression with closed eyes. his pose changes between various attacking poses with no arrowguns in time to the radiant garden music. in the background, saix and axel appear to be arguing. end ID.]
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firestorm09890 · 3 months
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controversial opinion maybe but I hope when Lauriam and Elrena show up again they continue to use the scythe and knives instead of keyblades because those were so cool. and probably more of a long shot but I also hope that Luxu only saves No Name for special occasions and sticks with the arrowguns, or if not that he gets extremely weird with his keyblade fighting style
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bitternace · 1 year
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(02/02!)
u guys weren't kidding, xigbar does enjoy being up-side-down
[ID: two digital drawings of kingdom hearts character, xigbar, in his organization 13 coat. the backgrounds are light blue and the colors are faded.
in the first image, xigbar is upside down, halfway through a backflip. in either hand, he holds his characteristic weapon, Arrowguns. he has a smug smile and his eye is hooded.
the second image is a close-up of his face. /End ID.]
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recusant-s-sigil · 5 months
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(Image I.D. A watercolor drawing of Xigbar from Kingdom Hearts. His back is facing the viewer, posing dramatically with a hand on his hip, showing his ponytail. His head is in profile facing left, a smirk on his face. He holds a finger up to his lips. He wears an earring resembling a charge on his arrowguns. To his left is an “n” in the Scala font, and to his right is a 2 in the same font. The date and username are written below each respectively. End image I.D.)
Xigbar day!! I love this guy, what secrets does he hold? Closeup and bonus below the cut
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(Image I.D.: a closeup of the above image, cropped at the hip. End image I.D.)
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Image I.D.: a pencil sketch of Xigbar and Xemnas. Xemnas is asleep on Xigbar’s shoulder. Xigbar looks a little concerned. End image ID.)
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gemwing2010 · 3 months
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Move aside, Xigar! Not even arrowguns are any match against Sora’s!
The Shooting Star Keyblade is one of my personal favourites from the third game for a reason. It comes in very handy in certain circumstances per battle.
⭐️💫✨
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Okay but during one of Xehanort's monologues, one of the Guardians Formchanges their Keyblade into a gun (Not an arrowgun, not an Ultima Cannon. A Glock. The Keychain links become the bullets.) and shoots him.
Another idea: as Young Xehanort is fading away, his gloating about Sora's impending fate is cut off not by him disappearing normally but by Sora Formchanging a gun and shooting him in the face to shut him up.
Give! Sora! A! Gun!
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thehandwixard · 2 months
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in khdays xigbar has a form for his arrowgun with the exact same name (crime and punishment/crime and penalty) as an ability unique to sora's final form in kh2. which could mean nothing
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strangefellows · 11 months
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So here's @khoc-week Day 6! One Choice, New Life!
It took me a bit to come up with this one, but then I had an idea that made me laugh-- in this, Jasper chooses to become a Dandelion, and thus meets and befriends Lauriam and Elrena. He gets tangled up in things after deciding to help Lauriam find his sister -- the situation striking close to home for Jas, desperate to find his dad -- and in the end, he ends up getting one of the lifeboats as by this time he and Lauriam are close, and they want to help each other seek out their family etc.
Jasper ends up in Traverse Town only a little ways before KH1, and after deciding it's a good idea to hide his Keyblade -- he picks up a crossbow/arrowgun, because like his dad, he knows how to use them; his father had been a hunter back on their homeworld, and he learned the trade even as a kid -- he realizes just how good an idea it was when he runs into Sora. He...quickly figures out how little the younger boy knows about anything and everything, and is suspicious of Donald and Goofy's motives, so he tags along with them on their journey from that point on.
Hilarity and chaos ensues when a 17yo Keyblade War veteran who has ties to THREE Organization members is a core party member and mentor to our protagonist.
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stanleysbuttonblog · 1 year
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Stanley was sitting in his room. He felt rather relieved that {SCEPTER} had managed to get out, but he was still… worried. Surely, whatever Xigbar had done to make that happen would be delicate and precarious. It could all fall apart, so easily…
But right now, it wasn’t. It was safe. So Stanley took comfort in that (relative, temporary) safety.
Right now, he was working on a friendship bracelet. It had lots of pink threads from a light strawberry-smoothie shade, to a neon hot pink, to a deep maroon. He also managed to get some beads, which he was weaving in at semi-random intervals.
There was a small duck charm, a heart, a little slice of cake, a tiny hand making a peace-sign, and a flower charm– it was hard to tell what kind it was exactly, since it was so small, but Stanley thought it was a daffodil.
It was nice to have something to do while he waited. Plus, he got to make a gift for his friend! That would make {SCEPTER} feel so happy!
She needed to feel happy right now, after this whole situation with her ex. And Stanley was sure that this bracelet could only make her feel better.
And then, Stanley heard a sound from his computer.
He looked up from his work to check his tumblr, and saw that Xigbar had invited him over to get some practice with the gun. Stanley smiled to himself as he responded– Xigbar was clearly looking for an excuse to just hang out, but he just didn't want to admit it.
But no, it seemed that Xigbar felt it was necessary to take things a bit farther– he wanted Stanley to practice aiming and shooting at targets.
Alright! That sounded… well, it sounded a bit intimidating, but Stanley felt pretty confident that he would be able to do it. He’d at least be able to do some of it, and the point of this was to learn. Surely Xigbar wouldn’t make fun of him for being inexperienced.
So, Stanley set down his bracelet, closed his laptop, and headed over the other apartment.
The door was open. Xigbar was flopped on the couch remnants (he still hadn't called the kins, evidently), idly twirling an arrowgun on one finger. He was wrapped in some kind of comforter. 
[Hey!] Stanley signed with a smile. [So, gun practice?]
"Yeah." He stopped twirling the arrowgun, catching it with a skilled hand, and looked up at Stanley. "No reason to give you a gun if you can't shoot. If you miss the kneecaps, what's the point?"
[Threatening him? Having a gun would make me look cool! That would help.]
"Dude. No." Xigbar shook his head and hissed under his breath. "Threats don't mean shit if you can't back them up."
[But how would he know that? I look threatening!]
"... Absolutely fucking no you do not."
Stanley frowned and then sighed. [Okay… well, I did want to do gun practice, anyway. So. Uh. Lead on!]
Xigbar nodded and stood, shedding his blanket. The air sort of… shimmered.
Stanley felt a sort of pull, all around his bones and skin, and then, he was in the field. His muscles sort of… all felt like jelly and he fell over onto his face. Right into the grass. Oof.
"... Sorry." Xigbar didn't try to help him up, but an apology was something!
Stanley stood up, brushed himself off, and then gave a dual thumbs up to Xigbar. He pulled out his gun– checked the safety, with a pointed look, and then held it carefully.
"Good. Always check the safety." He pulled out a small notepad and gave Stanley a look. "Don't look at my notes. I'm grading you."
Stanley nodded and turned away from Xigbar, facing the table. He glanced back at Xigbar expectantly.
"Alright. Aim at one of those bottles and take a shot. I want to see what you need to work on." Then, as if absentmindedly, he said, "Your favorite color is orange, right?"
Stanley blinked and turned back around. He frowned, and then nodded.
It seemed as though he wanted to say more, but he blinked again, shook off his stupor, and took aim.
The gun kicked out of his hands when he fired, but… He did hit a bottle. The sound of the glass breaking was loud. 
"Okay. So. Wow, that was terrible."
Stanley frowned. He sighed and shook his head, and then sat the gun down– checking the safety, and making sure it was on as he did so.
[It was terrible.] he signed, though somewhat argumentatively, [Because you just said ‘shoot it.’ I thought you were going to teach me gun practice.]
"I didn't expect you to be that bad. Okay."
[I have done nothing that would prepare me for this. What do you– I don’t think there’s even any guns in the Parable, much less any that function.]
"... Okay. So. I guess then let's start from the basics. It's not your aim that's the problem, you did hit the bottle." Xigbar crossed his arms. "Pick it up. But don't fire until I say."
Stanley reached down to grab the gun, checked the safety, and then held it. He looked to Xigbar, and then looked back at the bottles.
Xigbar looked at him, pointedly checked a watch (he does not wear a watch), and then, after a full minute, he nodded. "Okay. Take a breath. Hold it, then let it out slowly when you fire. Squeeze the trigger, don't pull it."
Stanley breathed in, focused, and then squeezed the trigger as he simultaneously let out a breath.
The gun didn't fall this time, but it didn't hit, either. Technically that was still better, right?
"Did you aim?"
Stanley frowned, thought, and then made kind of a shrugging motion. Sort of a ‘Yeah I think? Probably? Maybe. I don’t know.’ kind of shrug.
Xigbar pinched the bridge of his nose. "No, you didn't. You have to aim, Stanley."
Stanley nodded, and aimed the gun at the next bottle. The one he’d missed. Technically. Because, y’know, he. Hadn’t actually broken it.
"Again."
Stanley fired, repeating the same motions he had been instructed before. Breathe in, hold, squeeze, and breathe out.
The bottle shattered.
"Finally! Okay. Try hitting the next three." He paused again. "Didn't you say you were going to stop eating buttons?"
Stanley tried hitting the next three. And he tried pretty well! He repeated the motions; aim, breathe, hold, squeeze, out. 
He managed to hit the first two, but the last one… nope.
He turned back to Xigbar, checked the safety and set the gun down, freeing up his hands.
[I did not say that. Are you– why would you think I’d say that? I’m not going to make a promise I can’t keep.]
"Ah. My bad, don't know where I saw that. Maybe I dreamed it." 
[Okay?]
"Okay. So, that wasn't awful." Closest to praise he'd ever gotten from him."You got most of the ones you aimed at."
[Yeah!]
"That's better. This is what I want to see. Try and get the rest of them. If you miss, just skip that bottle and we'll see how many are still there afterward."
Stanley nodded, picked up the gun again– checked the safety– and then positioned himself.
He took aim at, and fired at, the rest of the remaining bottles. His technique was starting to improve; he could feel Xigbar’s instructions guiding him a bit better than before.
He was improving! He was learning! With Xigbar. Yay!
He hit five of the remaining seven bottles, skipping only two. Stanley turned back to Xigbar and grinned a little.
"Alright!" Xigbar clapped him on the back. "Good! You're actually not that bad a shot! That was pretty decent, especially for someone who I'm assuming has never held a gun before I handed it to you."
Stanley checked the safety, set the gun down, and then signed.
[Yeah, I’ve never held a gun before this whole thing. None in the Parable, like I said. I mean, I’ve seen pictures of them. But that’s... yeah. I haven’t used one before.]
"Not bad. Guess handing it to you was a decent idea."
[Yeah! I’m glad you gave it to me. Now I can shoot kneecaps.]
"Alright, calm down, killer."
Stanley smiled happily. [I feel– this is really nice, Xigbar. Just hanging out! It’s not nearly as stressful as I would have thought.]
"Yeah, well. You're not gonna get stuck in the same place as that fuckin' guy defenseless."
[Yeah, guns are a good defense! And he deserves to get shot.]
"Damn right he does. As soon as Showie and I get the chance, he's dead."
[Yeah.] Stanley signed with great emphasis.
"Why do you call her 'scepter'?"
[It’s a sign name. Like yours is {STRIPES}. She asked me to use {SCEPTER} in place of her name.]
"So, then, what's her actual name?"
[She… she asked me not to tell a soul. I. I mean I know you guys are dating and everything but. I don’t know if… I should?]
"We're not- I don't have a soul. Technically speaking."
[Oh, well then it’s [REDACTED].]
"... Interesting."
[What?]
"Nothing, nothing. Don't worry about it." He scribbled something down on his notepad.
[Oh, okay. Are we done with the gun practice?]
"Eh, yeah. You seem like you're good enough. If you want to try it again at all, I'm gonna leave the stuff out here."
[Oh. Thanks!]
"You go do… Whatever."
[Can we go back to the apartments? With your fast-travel?]
"Don't call it fast travel. I'm not from a fucking video game."
[I wasn’t… I know you’re not? Of course you’re not. That’s just– is that not what you call it?]
"It's warping, dumbass. Teleportation." 
[Okay, well, normal people can’t teleport at all. They do taxes and go to work and talk about the weather. So. How was I supposed to know that?]
"It's better than saying fuckin' 'fast travel', like I'm from goddamn Skyrim." He scoffed.
[It’s what I’m most familiar with. The Narrator is– he uses that sort of. Terminology. For things outside of the office.]
"That's stupid." 
[Yeah, he’s often stupid. Idiot god, and all that, y’know?]
Xigbar didn't say anything, only raised an eyebrow and kept scribbling on his notepad. This must be some grade.
[Are you… done? Can we teleport?]
"Oh. Yeah, sure. Hang on." The air shimmered again. This time was less disorienting.
It felt more akin to… a restart, actually. One that had come out of nowhere, and jarringly placed him back to where he belonged. But no part of his body hurt, he felt in control, and he did not fall over this time.
"Okay… You go do whatever it is the hell you do. I'm gonna go call Showie and give her an update on your progress."
[Wait, you can– you can talk to her?]
"Yeah, apparently phones work there. Or, at least, they connect to here "
[No, just– wow. I’m impressed you managed to swing that, given how much of a dick her ex is.]
"She's not with him anymore. In her own apartment."
[Oh! That’s– well, that’s great. Tell her I say hi!]
"... Yeah, sure. Okay."
[Bye, {STRIPES}!]
"... Bye." 
He teleported away, presumably back to his apartment. Feeling better about his chances in the divorce tournament, Stanley sat down on the couch and began to reread the waffle iron manual. Now that was literature.
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nicedracula · 2 years
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The idea of Xigbar watching Roxas and all the other Keyblade wielders flail around and just internally being like “lol these noobs” is so in character and funny to me.
It’s honestly gonna be wild when/if we see him with a Keyblade again tho. His sniper weapons are so iconic it’s hard to imagine what Xigbar’s Keyblade would even look like.
Yeah, I'm hoping they let him keep his arrowguns and swap between the two or something. Either that or I'd love to see how he'd utilize a keyblade with his portals. I imagine he'll be hanging on to the Gazing Eye, tho I'd love to see a keyblade design based off his arrowguns.
If he does use his keyblade, I hope he still holds it like this.
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shshshshshowrunner · 1 year
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UPDATED What I know about the Cult and other adjacent things
Organization 13- An organization made up of Nobodies, who are people without hearts. You can lose your heart by being stabbed in there with a keyblade or by being jumped by heartless. Nobodies are allegedly unable to feel, but this is apparently only when you first get turned. After a while you have 'echoes' and 'memories' of feelings. This may be bullshit though. Hearts Can and Do come back, I heard it happen over the phone. It's still unclear to me if there are any Nobodies outside of Org 13 no one has told me. I do know what the X in the names does, now. It's a tracking device of sorts.
Org 13 (1) tried to open kingdom hearts, I think, but failed. Org 13 (real) did open it.
Opinion: that's a cult. that's a xehanort cult which is worse than a normal cult because Xehanort is there. everyone get out of the xehanort cult. please. you're gonna get norted and that just sounds weird and is weird. if you're in it to get your heart back straight up just make a friend and care for them it will come back on it's own bestie please get out of the nort cult he's gross and the vibes are off, if you are somehow still in the nort cult with him dead literally dm me or send an ask and i will help you
Xehanort- He wanted to open Kingdom Hearts to become god or something. Still unclear to me if he was a Nobody. He norted an amount of people for reasons still unclear to me. As I said previously, "Sucks complete ass, murdered his ex husband who he later ascended to gay heaven with. traumatizes children. ugly on purpose." I beat the shit out of him in the elevator during BFD, I broke his old man bones. I think I saw a clip of him actually murdering Sora's friend. Good thing I broke his old man bones.
Opinion: Die Die Die Die Die
Xigbar- !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keeping this pretty vague honestly because I've learned even more secret info and i don't know which info is secret and which is normal anymore. So. Xigbar!!!!!!!!! Copying some from my old summary: Gravity powers :) can teleport :) has arrowguns, from what i understand he was pretty high up in the org. uses mildly outdated slang and can be summoned by voter fraud. did not like it in the castle. goes for the left side of the bed but is willing to compromise. can cook but it takes a long time. says he's not going to tell me things and then tells me them anyway. both me and percy are getting janus vibes from him but when i bring it up he says i need sleep. wants a cat, and a car. We did end up getting a 'cat'!! If this looks like less information it's because it is less information. once again i do not know what i'm allowed to say.
Opinion: Overwhelmingly Positive. that's my boyfriend. he also has, like, the benefit of my emotional statute of limitations in which everything he did before we met cannot be used against him in my brain. it bounces right off. like if i found out he, like, ran an orphan factory or whatever i'd be like 'uh yeah but it was before wbb and he's not STILL running the orphan factory so like :/' and you'd call me crazy and you'd be right but thats just how it is rn
Axel- Lea. Sora's friend. has fire powers (slay), has killed (slay) good with children? (slay if true). "went traitor". that's in quotes because going traitor from the org is a good thing. I still don't know much but that's okay. he's showed up in the record i'm going through and most of the behavior i've seen has been iconic honestly.
Opinion: Positive
Saix- Isa. Do not know much. Xigbar told me some things but like. Anyway. Likes rabbits, is somehow associated with the moon. He told Paph he was working to take down the Org from the inside. Sora's friend. According to Xigbar, when he was making the schedules for the Org, he gave everyone "like one day off a year". when i first heard about this I was like 'well that's not good' but with the knowledge that he was working to take down the org it's very very funny. so true absolutely make everyone uncomfortable and tired while you attempt to take them down that's so funny. xigbar getting overworked is an unfortunate consequence of that but it's a small price to pay for something so funny.
Opinion: Positive
Demyx- Hid in the same broom closet two days in a row even after he was caught and blackmailed the first time. is this a pattern? is demyx lazy? is he inept? may be associated with water- though that may just be ineptitude- for this extrapolation i am drawing from that toilet post. <- that is my old summary. I have learned nothing new about Demyx. uh i think i saw him in the record though and his hair was fun and i like the vibe he gave off.
Opinion: don't really have one. Neutral.
Xaldin- bad gross hair! ugly sideburns! obsessed with the beast for some reason, got his shit wrecked by Belle. Xigbar's least favorite member, no hesitation. loops his earrings through his gauges, which i gather is douchebag behavior. British man jumpscare! sounds older than he is. had a breakup and did not handle it well. removed his heart over it which i think is a bit extreme. i looked up an image of him and he's like. dude WHAT are you DOING with your hair? OH and he got ganked by mickey mouse which is so funny to me. <- that is my old summary. I have learned nothing new about him except that his name was/is Dilan and something something unethical science.
Opinion: here's the thing. I would say negative but due to recent experiences my opinion of every org member I do not know has defaulted to Neutral. So Neutral with a side of :/
Ansem (crackpipe)- There are two Ansems. This one was in Org 13, but is a Heartless instead of a nobody. He's special that way ig. he's one of the 50 xehanorts they had running around i'm pretty sure. Apparently, while this hasn't been reexplained, with my growing knowledge i'm gonna say: Xehanort got turned into a Nobody somehow. His Nobody was Xemnas, and his Heartless was Ansem. However I have NO DAMN IDEA WHY his name is "Ansem" and not "Xehanort".
Opinion: ...Negative? He's Xehanort apparently. I saw in the record he manipulated Riku which is a dick move.
Xemnas- I remember nothing about this guy fr. Had to check my old summary. Okay. He's the Nobody of Xehanort, the other half of Ansem if you will. But. why. hold on why is his org name- ARGH! I'm ignoring the naming thing right now fuck that noise. According to my old summary (i don't remember being told any of this): He stabbed Xigbar (rude), he talks in circles both to confuse people and because he 'doesn't know what he's talking about'. "went through sudden puberty when he got nobodied so his voice is way deeper. i think he's faking it though. for clout. dances like a sonic character. Has eyeshadow brushes that can be used as chopsticks." Fascinating, truly.
Opinion: Negative. Being Xehanort and Stabbing Xigbar will do that to you.
Xion- was supposed to be Sora? Is a replica, which is like a clone (?). Some guy named Vexen is responsible for this i guess. is doing okay now! Implied that Xigbar views her positively, and that she was inseparable from Roxas. A "Good Kid" who "kicked [Xigbar's] ass" -his words <- my old summary. Haven't learned anything new. She has a tumblr.
Opinion: Positive
Roxas- So when Sora turned into a heartless, Roxas happened even though Sora turned back to normal a few minutes later. To my understanding he was trapped in a simulation for quite a while. I don't know much, I'm afraid. Namine had something to do with this whole thing in some capacity. Left the org for reasons.
Opinion: Positive
Vexen- He's responsible for the replica program or at least was in charge of it? From what I understand from the record he was/is some kind of figure to Zexion who is Ienzo so that's something ig. I forget who with but there was another. Do not know much of anything at all about him. is this is guy that Lea thanos snapped?
Opinion: Neutral
Marluxia- this is the one who helped mother gothel kidnap rapunzel?? hello??? rude?? Don't know much about him. He was in the record i saw but it slipped through my brain like water. try being more interesting ig. pink hair though, that's pretty slay. from what i saw he has flower powers? slay.
Opinion: Neutral. I want to dislike him i really do but apparently he chilled out after getting his heart back. truly i am not allowed to be mad at anyone.
uhhhh the girl. with the hair. hold on it's coming to me. Larxene- honestly slay. definitely mean and tried to take over the org (which honestly might have been a good idea given that as far as i'm aware she didn't know about the real reason they were trying to KH and just wanted the heart back??? idk). Only woman in the original org??? I'd be a bitch too!! literally imagine what that was like for a second. she has lightning powers (slay). her hair looks like a pikachu which is less slay but im not about to hold that against her not everyone's hair can be xigbar levels of visually interesting and cool. speaking of xigbar this is one of the people he never ever mentioned to me. xigbar sexist confirmed???? /silly
Opinion: Neutral, but Slay
uhhhhh oh right
Zexion- Ienzo. He was a kid who was adopted (?) by... one of them, but that guy was slacking so he was/is (idk) mainly attached to Vexen and the one I can't remember. I fr don't know what was going on in the record i saw but he could, like, smell Riku. sniffing around like a bloodhound. i'm so confused. come to think of it riku was sniffing around, too. what was up with that why are the teenagers sneef snorfin in that record. no gd idea but honestly i'm intimidated. Xigbar has a positive opinion of this person, who is apparently also friends (?) with Sora
Opinion: Positive. I've heard good things even if he apparently has twitchtip's sense of smell. if you don't know what that means go read the Underland Chronicles series immediately it's so good.
uhhhhmmmmmmm.....
okay bonus category
Other Ansem- Ansem Trigger Warning...... trigger warning for racism. I heard he did blackface but i thought it was gonna be an isolated incident but NO he really woke up and chose to do that every day and IN FRONT OF CRACKPIPE ANSEM NO LESS. HELLO???? I'm almost tempted to give Crackpipe, like, pity opinion points to make up for putting up with that. What the actual fuck?? Not only that but he trapped Roxas in a simulation for whatever reason. I am officially designating Trigger Warning as "Other Ansem" because maybe i just don't know enough about the other one but I Hate This One More. Ansem 'The Wise' bullshit. why isn't he wise enough to know not to do racism. and this one also manipulated Riku and from what i can gather ALSO Sora?? additionally while the other Ansem IS xehanort, this one is PRETENDING to be xehanort which is actually more cringe.
Opinion: if he goes missing it was self defense
anyone still not here is because they haven't showed up in the record and xigbar and i haven't talked about them. at least for a long while. things are getting fuzzy we talk about new things now. okay send post
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