#avmath

[fp-am]

hear me out on this one

What if in Seconds dreams (AvP, AvMath, AvGeo) the cowboy version of himself is a manifestation of his powers, and each episode is a journey of self discovery and acceptance of his creativity, going through obscure memories to tell him that he can handle everything that’s going on.

Cowboy Second guides him through everything and gives him reassurance that his friends and dad are coming to get him soon.

Just a thought to chew on

[inksandpensblog]

folks Alan’s dropped some lore in his acceptance speech

[flowerbarrel-art]

(Original screenshots)

[inksandpensblog]

#it does feel trippy#even tho its based on real phenomena and equations#it's so dream like#i admit this episode i felt more confused than i did with the math episode XD

Same XD I could actually follow along with AvMath somewhat, whereas with AvPhysics it felt more like I was just along for the ride.

But I have several friends who are saying that they understood AvPhysics on that level while AvMath was the one they had to just ride along for, so I think it might just be a subjective experience based on our grasp of the material.

For the new Episode

The entire time I felt high during all of that. I think Orange accidentally took something, and is zonked out on the couch while the others are freaking out 😭

[iochris]

HELLO??

Basically:

Next AvE is Animation vs. Coding LET'S GOOO!!

Also, Alan childhood lore. He says he was selectively mute until he was 15, which played a part on his series having no talking.

They deserved the 50.000$ award so much, AvMath was awesome

[fireflyflarenight]

Remember those jokes about Second hallucinating AVmath?

[lord-kyle-yann]

My thoughts on Animation Vs. Coding

Spoiler under the cut

I LOVE it !

I like how it shows the different uses of coding with the uses of different libraries. I also like how it's in Python, the most used programming language. And how it can be used to do incredibly complex things at the end of the episode.

However I do think this is the weakest of the Animation Vs Education episode we got so far.

The first reason for this is the time. It's only 8:28 minutes, it's litteraly shorter than Animation VS Geometry ! Now don't get me wrong I don't think the longer is the better, far from it. But with a topic as vast as coding is, I think it's kinda sad we didn't get more.

The second reason is because of the narrative structure of the episode : It's Animation Vs Math, but worse.

Let me explain : Act 1 Yellow/Orange explore their new environnement while learning the base knowledge they'll need in this new world. Act 2 an inhabitant of this world interrupts them and a fight ensue, while fighting they learn more and more complex knowledge but still quite simple. Act 3 They're now fighting with really complicated concepts and in their conflict, they'll end up destroying the world with a nuke/a big laser. And in act 4 they discover they've gone too far and become friends with the episodes antagonist.

Of course there's difference, but essentially it's basically the same

With near half the time AvMath had, this episode is really fast. There's no pause between the fight to let Yellow truly learn the intermediate knowledge. Why is Yellow capable of what they're doing in the end ? When did they learned how a function or a class worked ? The computer (we need a name for this lil guy) was the one coding all the time when Yellow was just Interrupting it or doing minor adjustements. How did Yellow went from playing with a print and two variables to doing a whole neural network ? ("but you see there's a time lapse between when they started and finished the neural network, they learned during that time" No they didn't, they immediatly started like they knew exactly what to do and not experimenting. Yellow didn't learn there, they already knew)

And with these two reasons combined, I think that's why Animation Vs Coding feels less mastered than the previous AvE episodes.

I still love this episode as someone who loves coding, but with previous episodes being such bangers it's normal that this one was gonna have some flaws. As I said, coding is a big of a topic to choose, so of course things would've been missing and all.

Plus the music is cool (It's from the same guy who made AvGeometry's. What a banger)

[inksandpensblog]

#(hence. THIS is why there's such an awful disproportion of votes in the avg polls. where we have to vote for a character that is more pplar)#(the character that was a symbol of some people's childhoods & a minor character that they might've seen once or twice)

Not to change the topic, but is this about Corndog Guy getting voted second-most popular in all the series?

the avm fandom feels massive and tiny at the same time. alan has double the number of youtube subscribers and total video views as, like, jaidenanimations, but i feel like if i put 30 people in a room and asked which youtuber theyve heard of, people would know jaiden but nobody would know what avm is. i looked up "alan becker wallpaper" on google images, scrolled once with my mouse, and saw art made by my ex 3 years ago that got like 200 likes on instagram

[2skyflorix2]

I Love Us

Honestly, I'm so, so very glad AvA is the first fandom I've actually been an active participant in.

LONG RANT INCOMING

Throughout the years, I have "been in fandoms", but I never felt like posting my own art or works, commenting on vids (i didn't have a youtube account back then, still don't), or being anything other than a silent observer.

Back in March, when I came home from that math competition, and found AvMath in my recommendeds, and just clicked on it, I did not expect to get dragged into a fandom about stick figures, of all things. I remember watching AvPhysics directly after, then finding "Wanted", and watching it with no context. I remember going to the wiki, seeing all of the content that was made, and and binging AvM and the actual shorts and literally everything else.

And most of all, I remember thinking, "I wish I could just erase all of this from my mind and experience the magic all over again."

-

In May, I took a chance and went to Ao3. I knew it was a site to post fanfiction, but it had never been something I was interested in. But I was just curious, to see if fanfiction about this amazing fandom really existed. I didn't have an account, no; I think I just wanted to see.

There were about 1600-1700 fics on there about AvA, during that time. I didn't know how hits worked or kudos worked, but I just remember scrolling down until I could find something that looked like a lot of people had liked it.

And even then, I clearly remember the first fic I touched. "Identity", by LeenaFreeBird (I'll link it at the bottom). I absolutely loved it. I spent the rest of the month simply reading, and consuming all of the cool hcs, learning what fan terms meant, having an idea for my own fic that I thought, back then, I could never write.

Because I didn't.

I never made an account or wrote. I never left comments because part of me though people without an account wouldn't be able to, and that was just habit, at this point.

And even though I stepped slightly away from there in the months of June and July (we were in the process of moving halfway across the country, I had just watched the new Demon Slayer season, and upon recommendation had binged all of Haikyuu in a week), I always made sure to keep updated on whatever new AvA/M videos had been posted.

In August, I went back on Ao3.

SO MANY AMAZING FICS HAD BEEN WRITTEN IN THE SPAN I WAS AWAY.

I remember binging all of them for the month. I sat alone at lunch (as I was new I didn't have any friends), just reading them on my phone and getting sucked back into there.

In September AvI began. On a whim I logged back into my tumblr account that I had made like 5 years ago in 4th grade to post random rambling stuff about my life (I tagged nothing but my username wth), and redid my entire blog. I was sooo happy when one of my posts reached 100 notes.

I felt way stronger, and way braver. I joined the invite queue for Ao3, because I decided I DID want an account, and I DID want to post my own fics.

And everyone was (and is) SO NICE about it. They love my fics and posts (which I still consider really crappy, btw) to pieces, and always give me good comments. Even my bad fanart (another thing I got the courage to post during this time). Shipping wars never happen here (if they did, I wouldn't know about it). Rarepairs are appreciated, and we unanimously know the ships that should be completely illegal (not naming ship names here).

Everything and everyone is loved, and this is like the one little corner of the Internet where mostly all is safe and your opinion is valued. Sure, your fan theory may be wrong, but people here don't go and tell you "that's so stupid lol, no way that's true". They'll give you actual feedback, explain the evidence that falsifies it, or add to it because they like it.

Even on YouTube, if someone posts a yellue ship video, for example, they'll get hate, or "the color quad are just siblings lol", or "they r stickmen why are u shipping them". If someone HCs Blue as a girl (ik that's been debunked where we are at rn), they'll get a comment saying "it's stickman for a reason".

Like, let people have their opinions. Alan has never confirmed the color quad as siblings, or their origin story. I know he has said that he would like to avoid romance by not making female characters, but it's not like the people who ship yellue or grapeduo barge up to his door and demand he makes it canon. They're just peaceful, and everything that you're saying is fanon. For all we know, four different animators could have collabed on the sticksfight website and each animated a different character (not saying that's true, but we don't know).

And even with hollowhead pairs. Alan created them, yes, but how does Creator transfer to father in this scenario? We don't know, because he hasn't confirmed the hollowheads as siblings either. They still get hate on YouTube.

But Tumblr just loves everyone. The AvA community, for example, will always make you feel like you posted something good. They lift you up, not put you down. They appreciate your headcanons because it provides a new way of looking at things.

They appreciate you.

I feel so much better about putting myself out there, and I know I will do so more in the future. I now cannot comprehend how someone can see all of this content and think "they are just stick figures". No they aren't. They are stick figures with trauma, feelings, pain, heroic qualities, fatal flaws.

You, tumblr, makes me feel this way.

Thank you so much.

(I did not expect to rant about my entire journey when I was supposed to be talking about how amazing the AvA tumblr fandom is, but now that I have I'll just keep it. Here's the fic I was talking about)

[compressedrage]

I am so intrigued about the next two (two!! TWO!!!) AvEducation episodes we're getting. Up til now, the only character (stick figure character, at least) that we've seen has been Orange. makes sense, he's the main character, and I don't know if the series was meant to stretch beyond AvMath. Anyway, I was expecting Orange to be the only character we see in this series.

But now!! We have a teaser image for AvCoding that shows Yellow! At first I didn't even register that anything was unusual– of course Yellow is in the coding video, that's where he belongs– but this is actually so interesting! Will any more of RYGB show up? There's an entire other AvE coming out before AvCoding(I think); what's that gonna be about?

I'm so excited, I can't wait to see where they're taking this series.

[thevalleyoftriumph]

i feel like i'm going crazy and you're the only ava guy i follow do you have a playlist of the series in order i want to watch it but its a struggle out here

OH BOY YOU'RE IN LUCK! i have actually a playlist [or six] i made myself that i made in chronological order! with numbers beside which ones id recommend watching in which order

[HERE] is the playlist for AvA [1]

[HERE] is the playlist for AvM [2/3]

[HERE] is the playlist for every single actual short [5]

[HERE] is the playlist for all of the "Animation vs [Blank]" videos in upload order [ie, AvMath, AvYoutube, etc] [2/3]

[HERE] is the playlist for the green influencer arc [4], with [THIS] being a playlist for all of Green's videos on their channel, specifically, in chrono order [5]

important notes;

watching AvA up until Ava4, and THEN watching AvM, before moving on to Showdown onwards is honestly probably [in my opinion] the best way to watch the main two series, but thats just me personally based off how i THINK the in-universe order works [and also watching AvM lets you get attached to the color squad before Showdown. so. ^_^]

regardless, AvA is the BEST starting series, as its relatively short, and introduces everyone. AvM is 100% the best secondary series, BUT can be watched third in place of the Av[Blank] videos, as they can both be seen without too much previous context

the ACTUAL shorts are more supplumentary content, and thus dont NEED to be seen if you dont want to watch 70-something shorts [and possibly more, i havent checked yet today if alan made any new ones i have to add]

and lastly, the influencer arc should probably be watched last just by way of it being the Absolute Most Recent one

if anyone ever wants to share around any of these playlists, go ahead! i made them specifically for people to use to easily watch any AvA/M video, and also for my friends to easily get into the series! i update them with new videos as fast as i can, but i might be a bit late depending on When the videos get uploaded. however comma, rest assured that basically everything is there!

[inksandpensblog]

Alan has always said that the sticks are “like kids,” but he’s also always said so specifically in reference to their neuroplasticity. It’s not an age-marker, for the sticks, that’s just how their brains work.

So as long as they pick up new concepts as rapidly as small children are capable of doing, they can be whatever age you want, whether that’s young adults or teenagers or actual small children.

Guys Alan said it’s been 10-12 years since their creation (which is literal, AvA4 aired in 2014) not that they’re 10-12 years old in terms of cognitive age—

[zkylearnstherope]

AvGeometry [An Analysis]

Disclaimer: This is a very short Analysis for Animation vs. Geometry by Alan Becker. I am not a geometer, (according to Merriam-Webster, a person who specializes in geometry) this purely for fun.

First of all, I will NOT explain everything in the video. I will just focus on answering a few questions to which I found the answer for. I also have some conclusions at the end.

I will leave the in-depth explanations of everything to those YouTubers. Also, I have linked my sources using hyperlinks.

So, let's get into it- shall we?

Let's start with-

Which version of TSC is the main character for this one?

If you read my AvPhysics Analysis, you would realize that I named the TSC with the cowboy hat TSC_0 of Universe D.

Since the start of the AvGeometry video, I immediately realized that this is NOT the same guy from AvMath, since he didn't show signs of aggressiveness with phi Φ.

He's more curious versus the guy in AvMath who attacked Euler's Identity immediately. This is also the same guy who spawned in AvPhysics, TSC_0.

I think this MC is a TSC from a different Universe. I will call him TSC_0 of the AvG Universe.

Now you might ask yourself, why did I gave him the 0 designation?

Because the video ended with another TSC knocking at the point.

Now, you might argue, that this is not a perfect loop because there is a line below the point. While the start of the video, doesn't have that line.

You are right. Again, if you read my AvPhysics Analysis, I said that the TSCs in there are not stuck in a time loop.

It's just an infinite cycle that happens to different versions of them. Everyone spends only a short amount of time inside the singularity.

So the next TSC to arrive will not be TSC_0 but TSC_1.

How did TSC and phi Φ beat that Boss?

To start, let's define a few things. Click the hyperlinks to view my source.

Polyhedron - is any three-dimensional figure with flat faces that are polygons. They intersect at straight, linear edges. The edges themselves intersect at points called vertices.

Tetrakis Hexahedron - It is a Catalan Solid with 24 isosceles triangle faces and 14 vertices. It is the d24 die. It is also a 3-dimensional polyhedron, not 4D.

Now, first of all, the Boss is not 4D. It is two Tetrakis Hexahedrons overlapping each other and rotates at different speeds.

Platonic Solids - a convex polyhedron that is regular, in the sense of a regular polygon. These are also 3D shapes. There are Five Platonic Solids

Note that this not the original image from the website, but I rearranged the rows to highlight my points. I also added the dice names, incase you're more familiar with DnD.

In fighting the Boss, TSC and phi Φ started with lines that has 2 vertices or points. Then they slowly moved to the Platonic Solids, eventually defeating the Boss using a dodecahedron.

The Boss had 14 vertices vs the dodecahedron that had 20.

Now, I can't really say why more vertices is superior. It could be structural integrity, or the idea that the universe's topology and shape, references the shape of dodecahedron.

Or, that the golden ratio is the length from the vertex to the center of the dodecahedron, and is also the ratio of the diagonal of the pentagonal face as demonstrated in the video.

The Hyperdodecahedron and Singularity

Hyperdodecahedron aka 120-cell is the convex regular 4-polytope (four-dimensional analogue of a Platonic solid.) It is the 4-dimensional analogue of the regular dodecahedron. It has 720 pentagonal faces and 600 vertices.

It's basically 4D dodecahedron.

According to ChatGPT, in higher-dimensional geometry and theoretical physics, singularities often refer to points or regions where certain physical quantities become infinite or undefined.

Here's how I see it. If that yellow dot is indeed a singularity, the only explanation I could come up with, is at some point, the hyperdodecahedron's infinite insides would shrink to a single point in its 4-dimensional space.

Fractals

Now I think these are fractals by I cannot be sure. Also, I couldn't get a definite answer as to how fractals would be relevant to singularities.

What I got from ChatGPT were related to the event horizon instead.

That irregularities of the event horizon might have fractal patterns or exhibit fractal characteristics in its shape when examined at a different (smaller) scale.

The visual and structural complexity of the event horizon evoke fractal-like qualities.

Now, this Analysis is a lot shorter, and also inconclusive. I did try my best. My brain is now mush.

[i3utterflyeffect]

Regarding the Outernet school thing,I like to think that formalized education for stick figures is just throwing them into an AvMath-esque pocket space and letting them fend for themselves—it would fit with their general fighting culture. That said, the culture shock moving to the Outernet must be crazy...

GOD.... the teachers find him hiding in the corner of the void absolutely terrified. he comes back and begs chosen to never make him go to stick school again lol--

[frog-man-blog]

I think this counts as minor spoilers for AvMath

Is it just me, or is the fact that we have no idea how he even got into the math void, makes this funny

Bro FR spawned in 😭😭😭