#b3 spoilers

[dailybayonetta]

Bayonetta 3 (2022) 

[dutybcund]

they were insane for this

[secondbcrn]

oh they really said "and nothing for b.enedict" huh? lol there are 9437 storylines and what they set him up for last season gets ignored!

[popiellart]

Woe, The Elder Brain/The Dark Urge fanfic be upon ye!

'OP do you take constructive cri -' i do not. enjoy it or perish.

[nightmarist]

crying......

[jokermoreau]

Lyra initiating a kiss v. Astarion initiating a kiss

[freakshowrefugee]

Spoilers for Bayo 3 ahead!!!

Aight I'm playing Bayonetta 3 rn and I have some thoughts that I HAVE to share for the sake of my mental health. In no particular order:

LUKAON??? Bro the entire Luka plot in this game is almost impressively cringy. Who the fuck plays Bayonetta 1 & 2 and thinks—hmm, this Luka fellow should DEFINITELY become central to the plot for this game to REALLY work. Also, they somehow managed to write out any sort of endearing characteristics of the Luka from previous games?? New Luka's entire personality until now seems to be "uhhhh, me man find woman pretty". I won't even get into the masterclass in bad writing (and bad design tbh) that is "Lukaon" (henceforth named Whiter Luka in this rant). If they were going for a "mysterious stranger" kind of vibe, personally I think they fucking failed miserably. B3Luka is only Luka in name and (arguably) appearance. He has the depth of a blank piece of paper.

I fucking HATE playing as Viola, and this colors my opinion of the character too. No shade to the voice actress, I'm sure she did her best with what she was given, but I have audibly groaned almost every time she appeared on screen. I was okay with the idea of her being an edgy, cringy teen, but she eats up SO much fucking screentime that it becomes jarring. Her gameplay is painfully monotonous, even though I find Cheshire adorable, and her controls are stiffer and very limiting in comparison to Bayonetta herself. Gameplay-wise, Viola is everything a Bayonetta game should NOT be (in my opinion)—LIMITING.

Speaking of limiting, the Jeanne levels. Now, anyone who knows me knows that Jeanne is my queen, but HOLY FUCK those levels. Again, controls do not feel right, level design is atrocious and it all feels like a slog to go through. Why did they think we needed more gimmick levels for the love of fuck?? Why can't I just play Bayonetta in my Bayonetta fucking game? They did my queen dirty, on God...

Why the FUCK are we not exploring the Bayonetta alternative selves more??? There is so much fucking potential, the Egyptian version seems genuinely fascinating to explore, but NOPE!! Why should the Bayonetta game be about Bayonetta when it can be about new character we don't give a shit about and comic-relief-side-character that the writers PROMISE is srs bsns bro, I swear. Ask yourself this, if you were given the choice, would you follow the Viola storyline? I'm genuinely fucking curious.

Ngl, I'm not crazy about the gameplay. It's too much, too fast, nothing seems to matter and nothing is special. They constantly throw enemies at us with no sense of pacing or progression. Same for weapons. Remember the Grace & Glory entrance cutscene from the first game? Remember how memorable that was? Well, hope you DIDN'T like that, cause Bayo 3 will likely never give you that feeling. It's the DEFINITION of too much, too quickly. When everything is meant to be special, nothing is really special. Bayonetta 3 is flashy, for sure, but it feels shallow, at least on the first playthrough. I fucking hate saying this, but I'm genuinely disappointed. I think there are some good bones. I would love to be able to use the new weapons and techniques in a better designed, petter paced game (like Bayonetta 1), but as it stands, playing 3 feels cheap. When I got hit in Bayo 1 I never felt frustration, because most enemies and arenas were designed to allow you to experiment and figure out your own play style. With Bayo 3 I have literally dropped my controller out of frustration (usually when playing Viola). Listen, if be okay with Viola if she was an optional character, like King Zero from the first game or Rosa from the second. As she is, she makes me NOT want to fucking play the game, which is insanely frustrating.

The Crow and Cat umbran tears illustrate the weaknesses of Bayonetta 3's controls VERY fucking well. Why so many fucking gimmicks?? Who plays Bayonetta for the Route 666 and beginning of Isla del Sol, WHO??? Because they would probably love Bayonetta 3.

The world is sadly also quite poorly designed. Everything which shares an aesthetic blends together and orientation without a map of some sorts is a logistical nightmare. Again, it seems like they took the worst parts of Bayo 1 and filled 3 to the brim with them. Gimmicks, backtracking, the fact that you can MISS verses because of the poor map design.

It bears repeating, but this is very personal thing and less of a critique. I don't care about Viola. I don't care about Luka or Whiter Luka. I don't care about the Singularity or Sigurd. I'm. Or even curious about them at this point. Why was Bayonetta relegated to a side character in a game that is NAMED AFTER HER?? I care more about Ed and Edna than I do all previous individuals mentioned. The story of Bayonetta was never great, even in 1, but it was held together by memorable characters. You can't TELL me that a character is memorable, you have to show me. Even the character of Bayo herself has suffered as a result of the poor writing. The depth of her personality is nowhere to be found in 3. And no, it's not the voice change, I love Hale's work and she is doing a great job. We overlooked faults in the story in Bayo 1 (and arguably 2) because the gameplay loop was satisfying. Bayo 3 doesn't have that. And it makes me really fucking sad...

[ashedrose]

i just think we deserve a "the viscount and the viscountess" lil spin off where we get the kanthony focus they never got. throughout season one, we got to see good, happy, romantic moments between simon and daphne and inserted conflict in between. with season three, it's episode four and they're already all googoo heart eyes and whatnot. season two was straight up a thousand storylines and the lead couple just got angst all the way through up until like?? the second half of the last fucking episode. and don't get me wrong, i absolutely love the yearning, the slow burn, the forbidden love, the angst !!! i just wish we could've gotten that for maybe six episodes and then gotten to enjoy kate and anthony for two episodes being happy and learning to navigate each other as a couple. kate would also go through a patch of imposter syndrome similar to the mondrich family. going from doing doing doing to having a staff instead. also, i needed to see that wedding. the queen herself approved of them at the last ball of that season with no shame, which makes me think she probably remained involved for their wedding too. the beautiful bridgerton tones with kate's indian touches throughout?! illegal that we didn't get to see that. anyway, this isn't hate to any other leading couple. i just wish my fave got the treatment the others have gotten.

[dailybayonetta]

“I’m not a woman I used to be. Now watch, Jeanne. I’ll never bow to anyone again, not even myself.”

Bayonetta 3 + some of the different bayo(s)

[princessinyellow]

I kinda felt like Bayonetta was ready for some exploration of her selfishness, and how that might be damaging or harmful to the world around her. Maybe they could’ve explored that through Dark Eve? Who appeared a grand total of ONE TIME (plus one by proxy)? Imagine, a story that actually explores the main character in any way to any degree whatsoever...

[dutybcund]

don't speak to me for 800 years

[artsyaprilmr]

POV: you are seconds away from confessing

[sandrockers]

Welp. It's been a while so Imma just post some MP sprites (imma post Young Logan again lol)

are some of these a little cursed? maybe.

also too bad I couldn't find B3 sprite in the data (at least it's in the Artbook) but his model was there.

[aprilmr]

Hey guys do you think Rebecca straight up lied about Rook's death and her knowledge of it because she was the one who actually sent him on this suicide mission, and she desperately tries to forget and remove herself from these memories by voluntary choosing not to know the details of it? Hm??

[freakshowrefugee]

Major Bayonetta 3 spoiler below!!!!

So, I just finished the game. I'll say the battle with the end boss was decent compared to the bullshit that was Aesir in 2 BUT (always a but)—remember when Bayo 1 did the 3 fake-outs for the final boss? Yeah, well, Bayonetta 3 reached for the sky and managed to find the center of the earth. I think the final boss had like 7 fucking health bars, and for a vast majority of them we got fake-outs. Also, if you're curious about what the antagonist's motivation was, get ready for disappointment because I guess the writers used up all their creative juices on shit jokes (I laughed 1 entire time throughout this entire thing, when Jeanne said "You bitch!"—if you know you know) and the groundbreaking idea that (poorly written, hamfisted) love is stronger than whatever the fuck.

But there was one aspect of the ending that I hated the most. This is a MAJOR SPOILER so please stop reading if you want to experience this "brilliant" storyline. The game forces you to play as Viola and kill Bayonetta (or her ghost, or her negativity, or some other bullshit that's not ever explained properly), and thus, Viola is now Bayonetta. Yep. And the last text that appears after the credits—A NEW FUCKING GENERATION. Say goodbye to Bayonetta babes. She's dead. Jeanne is dead. And FINALLY platinum gave us what we REALLY wanted: Luka and Viola. This more than anything felt like a genuine slap in the face. I don't know if it's just me overreacting bc I'm tired but this is the literal worst thing they could have forced in, even beyond the ham-fisted Bayonetta & Luka twu love bullshit. It's almost poetic. The game that killed all depth of character the previous games had built also literally killed the actual fucking character. I'm sure the Viola stans (all 3 of them) will be fucking THRILLED.

Also, spoiler again, it is pretty much confirmed that Bayonetta 3 Cereza is little Cereza from Bayo 1. Which, umm, makes the Luka romance subplot kinda fucked up?? He even refers to her as Cerezita, aka the pet name he gave her as a CHILD. I dunno man, everything is fucked. I think that if I could, I'd genuinely refund the game at this point.

This is not a happy day :((

[endlesswoods]

The problem I have with "it's a romance book, enjoy the romance and ignore the plot" is that it's not how it works?

If an author sets an event in motion and doesn't deliver, it's on them. It doesn't matter what genre they're writing.

We know that plot is the weakest part of TWC, we've known that since book one. But with B1 and B2, the author managed to do a better job at conducting the plot because the stakes were slightly higher.

If B3 was supposed to be just an interlude before the rogue supernaturals saga starts in B4, then why were we getting children being kidnapped and the whole Sin and auction storyline?

Why not make a plot that revolves around the detective and the RO getting to know each other and use that as a conflict instead? A human x vampire relationship has so much potential.. Explore the detective training and discovering more about the agency, explore them and Rebecca having to confront their relationship. Literally anything would have worked better in this case.

Either create high stakes situations and develop them properly, or go another route.

I hope M*shka gets a good developmental editor, and that she'll run the whole series through them so that this type of thing doesn't happen again.