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sadlynotthevoid · 18 days ago
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Just saying, having OgCale be a hella good alchemist only so he can screw over the alchemy tower with their own rules would be so fucking funny.
Evil alchemist: But doing this without the material of [x number] humanoids should be impossible!
OgCale: Skill issue. I, like any rational person, just get my organic materials from somewhere else. Imagine being so narrow-minded you can't even do something so simple without needing to resort to such grotesque behaviour.
Evil alchemist: *evil scientist furious noises*
Rok Soo: I don't know whether this makes him more or less scary.
Alberu: Well, I, for one, am enjoying this.
Choi Han: Hm. It's funny to see when I'm not in the other side.
Choi Jung Soo: Am I the only one who wants to question since when he knows alchemy? ...No one else? Only me?
Lee Soo Hyuk, with an orb at hand: Jung Soo-ah, keep silence. I'm recording. *Whispers* this is peak quality reference material.
Choi Jung Soo: ...for what?
Rok Soo: Shhh. Don't ask things you're not ready to know.
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jenjenmina · 7 months ago
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Choose your character
Cale "I need to achieve world peace and end wars to live a peaceful and lazy slacker life" Henituse
Kim "I need to become the CEO of your company and get rid of the night shift" Rok Soo
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glassofice · 6 months ago
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The world's greatest actor || Og Cale animatic
After 155 frame later I present to you my tribute to the original occupant of cale henituse body
Do I gonna make something like this again in near future? Well who knows
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cindythecyclops · 3 months ago
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When they have red hair and a bad reputation>>>>
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nonexistentirl · 7 months ago
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The LCF readers experience of faux angst
The Soos.
Me, after binge reading 600 chapters: *sobbing uncontrollably because of the Soos*
Me, at the end of part 1, after learning the OG CJS and LSH are coming back: hol' up, what.
Me, 200 chapters into reading part 2: forget Cale, I want my tears back. The tears I shed for three hundred plus chapters... All for these two to rise from the dead in part 2? Like, huh???
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thegradus2 · 2 months ago
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who cares about tumblr possibly going down i need to tell people about my family feud henituse vs the stans with alver crossman as the host
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records-of-a-slacker · 3 months ago
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I listened to Romantic Homicide while reading the tcf novel and now whenever I listen to that song I think abuout Cale scamming people and blowing up entire island and empires and anything, really. I still listen to it when I wanna think about tcf or read the novel :)
Me when a song has honestly nothing to do at all with a character but I played it a lot while thinking about them
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sadlynotthevoid · 2 months ago
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Dreamed about OgCale and Rok Soo being roommates besties in a modern fantasy Earth AU—
Except the whole dream was OgCale swinging and humming in the kitchen, preparing a dessert as breakfast. Then he opened Rok Soo's door and threw a pillow at him, saying "WAKE UP, BITCH. THERE'S BREAKFAST"
Then the two of them had a quiet "Rok Soo's birthday" breakfast and fed a cat while recalling how they met.
Apparently Rok Soo was sitting in a bank outside a house/apartment complex? And OgCale came and told him no one sits there because the woman living in the store above likes to water her plants too much. Cue Rok Soo getting a whole bucket of water rain over him. OgCale then got him to come over to his apartment, which was nearby, to get him dry. I don't remember what he said exactly but we know the real reason is he's kind when he doesn't have to put an act.
Anyways, Rok Soo ended up staying for the night. Later they became roommates because OgCale's cat kinda adopted him, so OgCale decided he was fine. OgCale jokes about that a lot. So does Rok Soo, just most people don't notice he's joking. He calls the cat "Milky-nim".
#I'm pretty sure the apartment was at both their names#ogcale changed it to be that way after some time living together#bc he didn't want roksoo to feel like he could take away his home at anytime#it might had been his first but it wasn't really a home until he got used to feel someone else there#before that he felt like he could take his dog and milky and walk away at anytime and don't come back#rok soo is his bestie and kinda like having a sibling but without complicated external factors#—so he decided the best way was to make it so he legally owned the apartment as much as ogCale#can't remember why rok soo was sitting there. i think it had to do with his uncle doing something that put Rok Soo in trouble#despite not having seen the guy in ages. (⁠ノ⁠ ̄⁠皿⁠ ̄⁠)⁠ノ⁠ ⁠⌒⁠=⁠=⁠ ⁠┫#rok soo was working part-time in some place that I'm sure was the company but in a less screwed world#but he was doing a sort of paid-intern/walking database job that had started as just damage control#and ogcale had a design company and was getting a title bc he likes to do stuff he enjoys#rok soo thinks he's a weirdo bc he only gets lazy about things he considers a bother (some people) or boring#and og cale thinks rok soo is the strange one bc he can go hours without doing anything and consider it the most fun “activity”#og cale#original cale henituse#og cale henituse#kim rok soo#lcf#lout of the count’s family#trash of the count's family#tcf#milky is short for milky way and he has white-stained black fur#he's really small and probably abnormal bc they both had seen him glow in the dark at some moment#the dog is a big girl and is called Balto bc she was really stubborn about being calle that
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copseiva · 22 days ago
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Was thinking about some scenarios without transmigration where og Cale coming back to his 18 years old teenage body. And instead of starting to run around trying to save the world or keep his trash act, he is just being tired "old man" and straight up, not giving a shit (ig for the plot he may work towards saving the world at the same time). Also questioning all his live decisions trying to understand how he end up like this
I will put some references down here
I lost the ref for 2nd one. There was the man lighting his sig by using iron
(if this post is not gonna post the way I put this again, I'm gonna lose it)
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lizmidfordsblog · 3 months ago
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In the middle of writing my fic and just, I'm so baffled by the intricacy of this novel. All my respect to the author at just how detailed, ironic and yet deeply tragic KRS's very existence is.
Everyone that KRS has ever dared to love ended up dead or a fate worse than death. We have implicit confirmation that he began distancing himself from his team after LSH & CJS deaths. But I keep thinking back to him throughout the years (a little kid, teenage, young adult etc.) always grieving then daring to be happy only to have it shot down over and over again.
His parents passed away? His uncle takes him, only to abuse him.
He ends up at an orphanage? Sure he doesn't have friends but he's earning money and will go to college. Cataclysm happens.
He's stuck under debris for ages. But then he meets our movie star LSH, right? Wrong, LSH goes off to save other people, KRS gets bullied by PJT, the shelters collapse and he loses everyone. It's just this never ending cycle of tragedy over and over again.
At some point, during the early chapters, KRS commends Raon for not giving up despite all his pain. KRS lowkey detests himself having given up early on living a happy life. Still his heart wavers and yearns for companionship simply because that's a fundamental part of being human.
Every single time, he has to gather the courage to be hurt again. I'm thinking now, forget his OG world, in his current one too-- whenever KRS!Cale brings in another person into his family, he's subconsciously bracing himself to lose them. It's ironic that he thinks he stopped fighting back fate, when in reality, all his meticulous preparations, his scheming and his self-sabotage of his slacker life-- are all proof that KRS is not willing to lose these people. The OG!Cale's future is KRS's worst nightmare.
Every single time he brings another member into his family, KRS is silently saying-- I know this opens me up to hurt, for I've lost more people than I've ever had, but still regardless, I want you. I love you. I care for you.
All of this, in retrospect to the reveal about the WS' influence on KRS' life, makes this so much more tragic. The WS looked down on the importance human connection/companionship, considering it useless to the path of godhood. KRS embodies that importance, despite steeling his heart, he continues to care. He's our snarky self-sacrificial middle-aged twink, who finally gained a family willing to literally fistfight god for him. And you know, you know that if the WS stupid curse didn't parasite onto KRS's life, then you know from the Sealed God Test that he'd have had that family too in another life, in another world.
Just going on this rant gives me the heebie jeebies about writing my fic, purely because I keep wondering about how the hell I am ever going to give this man justice with my amateur writing. Sir, respectfully, I know you hate this question but, are you human?
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sadlynotthevoid · 11 months ago
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Fox. I meant fox, no foz.
Anyways, AU where he has spirit familiars and one of them is a red panda who gave him the ability to shapeshift into a red panda himself.
He uses to play with his other spirits (mostly the animal based ones, but also the little faes, the elementals, and the one that looks like a kid), jump onto people who deserve it, honestly, and get info.
No one suspects from the cute animal.
Spirit familiars are literally what the name says. Spirits to whom someone bonds in a familial relationship. The way the bond it's formed varies from spirit to spirit.
The possible gained skills or traits are just an after effect of being adopted by a spirit. Someone who joins a spirit family can't be completely human any longer because they form partially part of the spiritual kingdom now. The other way around, spirits with a mortal family member have a firm anchor to the mortal world that others mostly do not. So they can travel between planes as they please.
So, yes, it's convenient for both parts, but it won't work unless there are genuine feelings and intentions involved.
Og!Cale just happens to come across spirits quite often. Somehow he ends up with a big adoptive spiritual family despite not being even orphan (though these two things have no relation at all. Spirits don't care if they family has more mortal family. Sharing is caring).
Alberu is deeply shocked when the little ball of furr he has been feeding lately opens its mouth and shoots fire to the queen's latest assassination attempt.
what do red pandas even do
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blueteller · 9 days ago
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Hi! Can you please tell me the cannon events of ogCale. I want to know about ogCale's life from his childhood till his death.
There are too much misinformation about him in the fandom. I can't decide anymore what is canon and what is fanon about ogCale anymore.
I would also like to hear your head-canons about ogCale's past.
You might want to check out this recent post of mine, concerning what is canon and what isn't about OG Cale's personality. As for the exact events? Let's see... (Big Spoilers Ahead!)
OG Cale was born in year 763 of Felix Calendar (the particulars of the calendar are never elaborated upon), in the main city of the Henituse Territory: Rain City or Weston, depending on translation. While the details of his childhood are never directly stated, it's implied to be a happy upbringing by his parents, until the death of his mother Jour/Drew Thames (Jour was first proposed version of the name and I'm personally partial to it over EAP's "Drew") sometimes around the year 771. Jour got into a carriage accident when coming back from Harris Village, where she split her own plate and hid half of her Anciet Power, the Annual Rings of Life, making it seem like it was the carriage crash was the cause of her death. OG Cale only found out the truth about the even after he made the deal with the God of Death many years later.
Within one year Deruth Henituse, Cale's father, met and married Violan, whose past is mostly unknown aside from the fact that she comes from a merchant family (which raises all sorts of red flags, considering how the Hunters like to disguise themselves as merchants, but it might just be red herring) and that she had a son named Basen/Bassen from an unknown previous relationship (no mention whether she was married or not). Basen is 3 years younger than Cale, so he had to be born in 766, and shares no blood relation with him as his step brother (although Kim Rok Soo!Cale is unaware of this fact for most of the story, as he never was given any details about OG Cale' mother and her death). Deruth and Violand had another child named Lily/Lilly, Cale's half-sister, who was born in 774, 3 years into their marriage, when OG Cale was 11.
We know that in year 771 Basen and Cale had a conversation where OG Cale told him to pretend to be Deruth's biological son. From that point on, he did his best to act like "trash", aka. a spoiled brat, with the explicit goal to be kicked out of the family and pass the heir position to his step brother. In year 778, when OG Cale was 15, he added drinking to his personna and became known as an alcoholic with low alcohol tolerance and terrible, violent temper when drunk. It continued that way until year 783, when 18-year-old OG Cale met Choi Han, on his way to report the Harris Village massacre that occured on March 28th ("third month of the year" to be exact, but we never got any direct confirmation that that months were named differently in this universe, so whatever). "Drunk" OG Cale insulted the dead villagers to Choi Han's face, possibly because he was being "in-character", but canonically also because he hates Harris Village as the place where his mother died. Which lead to OG Cale's brutal beatdown documented in "The Birth of a Hero" series, Volume 1.
Now, let me dive into that for a bit, because there seems to be a huge misunderstanding about the following events among the fandom.
I carefully re-read the beginning of the novel recently (the official translation that is, mostly to see if there were any major differences from what I remembered of EAP's translation), trying to fish out as many details as possible about the TBOAH timeline. One intersting thing about OG Cale's introduction in the books that Kim Rok Soo read is that he did not actually appear just once. He was not a recurring character mind you, nothing particular being mentioned about him or the Henituse family after the first Volume, but it was clearly stated Choi Han "bumped into him a couple of times" before their final confrontation.
The way I see it, the timeline of TBOAH probably like this: Choi Han must have passed a bar where OG Cale was having a huge public tantrum over his wine not tasting good, causing it to be mentioned in TBOAH, which was written from Choi Han's POV. It probably did not count as a meeting though, with Choi Han having no reason to actually enter the bar. But that tantrum caused OG Cale to injure himself with a piece of broken table leg, making KRS!Cale notice that he did not have a scar on his side when he transmigrated; a specific detail which allowed him to place his position in the TBOAH timeline.
We don't know what Choi Han did for the next couple of days; possibly he spent looking for something to eat, a place to rest, or asking for information about where was the man in charge and how he should approach him. Maybe he spent time in the slums, met some homeless kids along the way (the reason why Cale had a specific quote in mind about them when he met On and Hong), got into some fight where he showed his fighting prowess (more on that in a bit), possibly went past the Man Eating Tree, prompting its backstory regardless of the fact that no one got the Indestructible Shield Ancient Power in the TBOAH timeline (at least, not within the first 5 Volumes which Kim Rok Soo had read). Kim Rok Soo never thought about the narration seeming too strange, and he's an observant guy. So it must have felt like natural exposition for the audience. Perhaps Choi Han met Billos/Bilose Flynn as well, prompting his introduction and backstory.
What we know for sure is that OG Cale and Choi Han had their "first meeting" the next day after Choi Han jumped over the wall (missing Hong and twisting his ankle as the result, slowing down his progress on top of physical and emotional exhaustion), while OG Cale was out and drinking. But I think it also makes sense to assume they did not exchange words just yet, as Choi Han was in full depression mode at the time had no reason to be chatty. It's possible OG Cale just threw a casual insult at him, reinforcing Choi Han's terrible impression of him. In other words, they had at least one "meeting" by that point in the timeline, but OG Cale did not get beat up just yet.
In TCF, Deruth also mentioned that "Cale would leave for the capital in five days", causing Cale to think how "OG Cale would get beat up in four days time", delaying the actual confrontation of these two from Choi Han's initial arrival quite lot - about a week, in fact!
Here's what I pieced together: in order for Choi Han to meet the Count he had to find way to get past the guards, without showing an identification or fighting them, which he was actively trying to avoid (his conscience recovered enough for him to remember not to kill innocent people regardless of his rage). So the meeting was no accident: he must have approached OG Cale on purpose, knowing that he was the son of the local Count. He probably asked for help regarding the Harris Village directly to OG Cale in hope that the man would be sympathetic enough to let him meet his father (not a very good plan, but probably the best one he had at the time). We also know it happened on a rainy day, and it did NOT rain when Cale first met Choi Han in TCF, nor the day after when he got the Shield, which took a couple days of buying bread for Cale to acquire (and when he finally did was only foggy, presumably because of On helping, but not raining!). After Cale got his Shield, it was explicitly stated that it rained heavily for a several days in a row; like during Cale's talk with Billos about his father. Once the rain passed, Cale was satisfied with the fact that the deadline for his beating had passed and he successfully avoided that fate.
So... Choi Han must have spent a full week in Rain City before he beat up OG Cale (minimum of 3 days of Cale buying bread, and 4 consecutive rainy days), unlike many fans seem to believe; the generall impression I get is that Choi Han stayed in the city for barely a day or two before moving on.
We also know that Beacrox/Vicross Molan met Choi Han exactly four days earlier in TCF than in TBOAH. Which leads me directly to the bottom of the misunderstanding I mentioned earlier.
In TBOAH, after Choi Han beat up OG Cale, there did not seem to be any legal complications for him; no mention of him paying a fine, since he was homeless and poor he couldn't have afforded it, and no mention of guards trying to arrest him. Either no guards witnessed the confrontation, or they chose not to help OG Cale. I find the second option hard to believe though, since what we have seen in TCF seems to indicate that despite OG Cale's behavior, the Henituse Territory's knights were quite loyal and competent. I think they probabably didn't see nor hear anything BECAUSE of the rain. Someone could make an argument that Beacrox COULD have seen something, but that's highly unlikely; instead, I think Choi Han must have had a fight with someone else, because it was mentioned that Cale wanted Choi Han and Beacrox to bond over Choi Han impressing him with his strength. I don't see how "impressive" it would be to see Choi Han beating up OG Cale, who was completely ordinary in strength... I think that's where the common misunderstanding among the fans lies.
To sum it up: I am fully convinced there was no one around when Choi Han beat up OG Cale. It was raining, OG Cale was too stubborn to admit defeat or to call out for help, and Choi Han was never arrested. I'm 100% certain there was no witnesses, especially not Beacrox.
And beside that, if we sum up days, we reach another crusial conclusion: Choi Han met Beacrox before approaching OG Cale.
It only makes sense from the timeline! When I mentioned earlier that during the week that Choi Han spent in the city, "he possibly got into some fight where he showed his fighting prowess", that is what I meant. Either Choi Han got into a fight with some thugs (which do exist despite the Henituse Territory not having a criminal underground; TBOAH narrative clearly states that OG Cale liked to terrorize thugs instead of bothering innocent people), and Beacrox happened to see it, or they bumped into each other and fought personally. Possibly both.
Choi Han's exact TBOAH activities might not seem all that relevant to the original question regarding OG Cale, here's where we come back to the main point. Namely: Ron and Beacrox leaving OG Cale behind to travel with Choi Han.
Since Ron was such an important figure in OG Cale's life, we can imagine him leaving (wihtout a goodbye or warning, no less) affected him quite a bit. But fans like to make extra drama, and somehow created this narrative where 1) Beacrox sees Choi Han beating up OG Cale and doen't stop him, and 2) Ron leaves OG Cale with the guy that harmed his charge without any care in the world. Which simply does not add up at all! This is the reason why I think that there were no witnesses when Choi Han beat up OG Cale: Ron absolutely would have tried to avenge him!! For his own professional pride if nothing else - he wouldn't have simply left with Choi Han if he knew!!!
Yes, Ron and Beacrox were under the impression that Choi Han was involved with Arm, due to him "having their scent" (more of my exact thoughts on that in this post). So they decided to follow him not because they LIKED him, but because they found him useful. Their comradery developed slowly and gradually after that misunderstanding got resolved and got to trust him more (and Choi Han lightened up a bit after the events in Harris Village). But I'mstill pretty sure they never found out about Choi Ha being the one who beat up the guy they worked for over a decade. The Henituse had always been generous with them, and aside from OG Cale's bratty behavior they really had no reasons to complain. And no matter his protagonist status, Choi Han certainly wasn't "charming" enough to make them forget all of their gratitude out of the blue.
You might be thinking, "but how could they not figure it out"? Well... OG Cale was known for causing trouble. Someone beating him up around the same time that Choi Han was in town? Doesn't mean much. And Deruth wouldn't have let it slide either! If he had any idea what Choi Han had done to his son (remember, he beat him up NEAR DEATH), Deruth would have never sent Hans to help with the proper burial of the villagers! That kind of gesture of good will just doesn't make sense, no matter how tragic the massacre was. OG Cale was clearly found and brought in for healing, Choi Han got the audience he wanted with the Count, OG Cale wasn't around to make any comments on it because he was stuck in bed, and Basen went to the capital for Zed's birthday instead in his older brother's place.
Then the terrorist attack happened, and the rest of 5 Volumes of TBOAH happened, followed by the Henituse Territory invasion by Clopeh Sekka... 20 years of war, erased from the timeline by the transmigration deal with the God of Death... and the rest is history.
So, here's the quick summary of my long, LONG post about what exactly is canon regarding OG Cale:
OG Cale was born in 763 (no exact month of birth confirmed)
His mother died in 771 (when he was 8)
Deruth remarried same year, Violan and 5-year-old Basen becoming Henituses
OG Cale started acting as a spoiled brat to help his step family
He added alcoholism to his personna in 778 (15 years old)
He met Choi Han in 781 a couple of times (18 years old); first time probably sometime 1st of April, and got beat up around 5th-6ths, around 1 week after the massacre of Harris Village on March 28th,
He probably spent the next 2 years trying to get himself kicked out from the family but Deruth nor Violan ever allowed it (because their love was unconditional)
Henituse Territory fell in spring of 783 to the Indomitable Alliance of the northern countries, officially lead by Clopeh Sekka of Paerun Kingdom
He transmigrated around 803 (40 years old), becoming 36-year-old Team Leader Kim Rok Soo
What fans commonly misunderstand and get mixed up:
Choi Han did not beat up OG Cale upon their first meeting
Beacrox did not see OG Cale getting beat up nor stood on idly the sidelines watching
Ron probably never found out Choi Han was the one who beat up his charge either
Neither did Deruth or anyone important someone would have tried to arrest Choi Han or at the very least fine or blacklist him from Rain City, none of which got mentioned in TCF
So Ron and Beacrox did not merrily set off into the sunset with the guy who beat up OG Cale, they left to keep an eye on the suspicious guy who smelled like Arm (Beacrox liked sparring with him but that was just a side bonus)
We do not know whether Basen died or got hurt in the terrorist attack as it was never explained in TBOAH, we just know he had to be there instead of OG Cale
It is implied that all the Henituses aside from OG Cale died during the invasion, but the how any why was never explored so anything about that topic is pure speculation from the fanbase
OG Cale fought in the war later but his exact role was never elaborated on either
I hope you find this helpful! Have a good day everyone 💖
[Bonus: I forgot to adress one last thing: the scene OG Cale witnessed in the final battle. OG Cale saw the White Star grab Choi Han by the arm (not the neck unlike most fanart of that scene!) and say the line about his time being warped. There is no mention whether OG Cale have ever actually met the White Star before that point, and there is no information regarding their relation (which is implied because of how similar they look and how White Star was able to use the Annual Rings of Life, which could be only used by the Thames). So anything about OG Cale's family is still yet to be adressed in canon. OG Cale's unknown relative (possibly uncle because of Jour mentioning her brother) showed up exactly ONCE, and he never even showed his real face. So everything connected to that stuff is still only theories and all.]
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youngyoo-apologist · 1 year ago
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OG Choi Han they could never make me hate you cause if some random rich boy was yelling at me and telling me my family deserved to die like a day after it happened and all I wanted was to know how I could get help I’d beat him up too
This plus the added fact that the Harris Village people were the first people to take Choi Han in and take care of him after years and years in the dark forest. Like he’s obviously not going to be mentally stable after all that, and he was so young when everything happened to him like I cannot blame him at all. I don’t think I can ever hate OG Choi Han like ever, he’s flawed, he has problems, but I love him dearly. He deserves the world. This kid who had to fight for his life, was taken away from his family, and in the process had to give up parts of his own humanity to survive, and like went to war two years later, they could never make me hate u OG Choi Han…
Like yeah violence is bad I guess but OG Cale had it coming(saying this as an OG Cale fan, I love him, but he was mean as hell when he was younger!)
If I’m honest, I think they were both in the wrong to an extent. Like OG Cale shouldn’t have said all that no matter the circumstances, and OG Choi Han shouldn’t have beaten him up so much. But u say mean shit and you get hit, that is how it will work when you’re talking to the guy who just saw his entire village get murdered like idkkkk man
I understand where OG Cale was coming from, but he had many issues and while he wasn’t an awful person, he was capable of doing bad things because of his own internalized pain and emotions that he never got to properly process because of his emotionally distant childhood and relationship with his father who should have been there for him more when he was younger.
Okay speaking of his childhood, Deruth isn’t the WORST father in the world but there are a lot of things he could have done better. I think a lot of Deruth’s flaws come from his fear of failure and messing up. He’s scared of doing the wrong thing, and so he sticks to doing what he knows and using what he knows best. That’s why he uses his money, that’s why gift giving is his way of showing affection, he knows that it is one thing he cannot mess up.
The problem is that money and gifts is NOT what OG Cale needed. I think what that guy needed the most was a parent who wasn’t afraid to talk to him, to ask him questions. Not to say that Deruth gave up on OG Cale, but I think in a way he gave up on OG Cale by giving up on himself. Deruth didn’t trust himself to have the capabilities to talk to OG Cale, which is why he never did. It’s because that Deruth was scared, and didn’t trust himself, that he could never face OG Cale
If Deruth was able to trust himself a little more, and pull himself together, I don’t think OG Cale would have turned out the way he did. As a kid, he probably thought the only way he could help his family without relying on anyone(no doubt this whole ‘I have to do it myself’ thing came from the fact that he couldn’t rely on his father when his mom died, and instead was acting as a pillar of support for his father when it should have been the other way around) was to sabotage himself, the only heir. If he was shown to be unfit to be heir, then everyone else would have no choice but to direct their hatred towards him instead of his family.
If Deruth had talked to his son at least ONCE when he was a kid, asking him why he was upset or why he did the things he did, I think OG Cale would have told him. Why? Because he’s a kid!! A kid will obviously want to rely on his father, if he just had one sign telling him that he didn’t have to do it alone I’m 90% sure OG Cale would have said something.
Basically, while Deruth isn’t the worst father, he’s not really a great father either. I think he does do his best, but he has issues with communication lol
OG Cale and OG Choi Han are both complex characters and had their own reasons to behave the way they did. The thing is with people is that they’re complicated and have layers, so the situation with them would have layers behind it as well with multiple co-existing truths and stuff
#guys I’m a big fan of Choi Han#and I get sad when people bring up this scene and all the blame is on him#like okay he was wrong but if YOU saw your entire family dead and some random rich boy started yelling abt how their lives were worthless#you’d be mad too no?#like his feelinsg were totally justified cause OG Cale was REALLY mean in that scene#‘their lives are worth less than the bottle in my hand’ OHHHHH OKAY OG CALE THATS ENOUGH THATS ENOUGHHHH#I love OG Cale but u have to admit he wasn’t very nice when he was younger#like the statements ‘he had his reasons’ ‘being trash was an act’ ‘he wasn’t a bad person’ ‘but he did say bad things’ can co exist#yes being trash was an act but he is ALSO capable of saying mean things and things that are wrong#LIKE TELLING THE GUY WHO JUST GOT HIS FAMILY MURDERED THAT THEIR LIVES WERE WORTHLESS#HE WAS NOT INNOCENT FOR THAT#Younger OG Cale is not a black and white character#and neither is older OG Cale but this post isn’t abt him#okay I’m gonna bring up someone who isn’t from TCF#but take Eunyung Baek from no home as an example okay#eunyung did bad things and was a bad person because of his childhood right#the reasons to being a bad person do not take away the bad things he did#but just cause he did bad things and was capable of them did not mean he could not change#I love OG Cale a LOT and I just think that his character has a lot behind it#Older OG Cale is obviously very different from his younger self#years and years of war and tragedy have matured him and like he’s not the same person he was anymore#okay back to Choi Han I love that guy I will defend him with my life#beating up people is wrong yeah but with the circumstances I’d say OG Cale had it coming#like okay it would be different if it was unprovoked but it was very much provoked#I swear I love OG Cale I just think he was very wrong for that#not to say he can’t change or isn’t capable of change he definitely is#idk I guess my point is that OG Cale was wrong but he changed as a person#and OG Choi Han was wrong for beating him up so much but it wasn’t unjustifiable#tcf#lcf
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delusional-daydreamer18 · 14 days ago
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Dunno, this is just a random headcanon but what if Og!Cale used to be a huge nerd when he was a young child? He'd be the most curious kid out of all the noble kids that exist out there in Roan, and he would have some weird interests/hyperfixations that would throw off most people (and some would comment "Act more properly like a noble, be composed.") — and because of that he doesn't really talk much about it. Except ofc to his mother because she would be the only one who'll listen to him patiently. Occasionally he would try to talk about it to Deruth but the man is a busy count so he doesn't get much time to talk to him freely.
But when someone shows interest in it, or even brings the topic up (usually, it's Eric) — Og!Cale will gush about it and begin to ramble nonstop, with sparkling eyes and a bright smile. The northeastern nobles trio would just listen, and would think from time to time how cute Og!Cale is when it comes to sharing about his interests.
Then his mother died and everything fell apart from there.
He begins to lose interest in most things he finds fascinating and would only cling to a few ones that actually comforts him, especially when he starts to pretend to be trash for both Basen and Violan and distances himself from the people he truly cares about.
The war happened and he completely lost interest in everything other than taking revenge for his family.
When he begins to live his life as Kim Rok Soo, slowly — he tries to regain his interests. He would try reading random strange books, would probably try to eat poison just to test something, and he'd try to cook meals Beacrox used to make for the Henituse back then because while he often acted as if his food tasted vile, he absolutely adored Beacrox's cooking and he regrets not getting to spend more time with his hyung bec of how he had to keep up a trash facade back then.
Whenever his teammates bring up something that is of his interest, Og!Cale — now Kim Rok Soo — would excitedly give feedback and proceeds to ramble like the nerd he is. His teammates are flabbergasted bec even though their team leader has been acting a bit off and unusual lately, he never runs his mouth as if his life depends on it — heck, he once said he prefers speaking in short, concise sentences to not waste his saliva!
Yet, they find themselves smiling, listening intently, wanting to get to know their team leader more. Maybe, just maybe, Kim Rok Soo is finally putting off the stoic mask he usually keeps around them and is now more comfortable being himself.
So they let Kim Rok Soo talk about his hyperfixations more, they'd try to learn more about said hyperfixations, and would even try to bond with him.
For the first time in his life, Kim Rok Soo feels accepted for who he is — mainly because he doesn't have to hide who he is anymore.
He is not the trashy Cale Henituse everyone finds revolting.
He's Kim Rok Soo, surrounded with his precious niece and people who support and love him for who he is.
Not for what he was.
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cindythecyclops · 11 months ago
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Otome game AU except OG! Cale becomes self-aware Monika style and learns how to hack his world.
Cale notes that he's the game's favorite punching bag, as every ending ends up with him dead or exiled or some shit.
He pushed down the ache he felt but oh well.
"Huh, so that's why that girl is so weird, she's an otome protagonist."
Cale breaks free from his script and decides to do whatever he wants, this causes the AI around him to freak out and glitch. Cale sees that every day is monotonous and everyone has shallow personalities. He is sort of losing his mind.
One day, Roksu finds the game for cheap and decides to play it.
Cale immediately notices his presence and desperate to talk to someone actually sentient like him, accidentally changes the whole story and causes the game to glitch out.
He looks past the player vessel's plain exterior, she's nothing to him, and notes the reddish-brown appearance of her eyes which were previously dark brown.
Cale replaces the mls in most major cutscenes and quickly becomes Roksu's favorite. Whenever the game tries to force his interaction with a ml, he just turns back to Cale.
Cale starts to develop feelings for Roksu.
Roksu is conflicted about how attached he is to Cale.
The next time Roksu logs out, Cale updates the game and puts his whole video game life story in the update logs for Roksu to read.
might expand on this later.
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deathsmile36 · 2 months ago
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I don't remember if I mentioned this before, but as we all know, when OG Cale acquired Rock Soo's body, he acquired his powers, the Record and the Moment. I previously thought that OG Cale's ability to go back in time was an ability he acquired because he was a descendant of the Thames family. On the other hand, OG Rock Soo acquired Cale's body. If going back in time is indeed OG Cale's ability, would we see him use it and go back in time if, for example, one of his friends died? Since they both currently possess the Moment ability, would they be able to use it at the same time if they combined their powers and fought together? There's a theory we know that Rock Soo's body, which was stolen by the WS , belongs to the Thames family. Did he acquire the Moment ability because he belongs to them? Since the Thames family inherited abilities related to time, I'd guess that the Moment ability is related to them 🤔 . What do you think of what I'm saying?
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