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dix-rose · 8 months
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voice acting is such an underrated form of art like I know a lot of people focus on like the big names like Strong, DeLisle, Kenny, just to name a few because they have "range" but thinking about the actual WORK that goes into it?? Incredible.
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eisforeidolon · 2 years
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I felt like A LOT of the funniest J2 moments from this weekend's panels had a physical component (like them doing an extended bit performing actions in sync), but here's a more serious question that comes across well in text alone. Although it's a lot of text. Really a lot, they were both kind of long-winded, so I'm putting it mostly under a cut.
Fan: Can you tell us about an emotional experience you that had with a fan, like an emotional connection you had with a fan at a convention?
Jared: He can, yes [pointing at Jensen].
Jensen: I'm glad you asked that. Um, yes, there's countless interactions and encounters with people who, if you wanna call them fans, but I call them like-minded individuals, 'cause I, too, love this show and love these characters and love their stories, so I guess I would be a fan, too? But, uh, having interactions with you guys is - that's the unique thing that this is. And I think a lot of people don't understand that when we talk about coming and doing these shows. People are like, 'Why do you think there are people still showing up at these things, you've been doing them for so long?' And I'm like, 'Well, it is the show, but I also think it's this community that has kind of grown with these things. And I also think it's the fact that he and I show up here because we wanna see your faces. [Jared nods] We get to see - you know, when you're working on a set doing a tv show or a movie or something, there's not an audience there to give you feedback. It's not theater. It's not that kind of a situation. So a lot of times, the only kind of feedback you get is critical, you know, it's critics. Saying, 'Oh, this show sucks and here's why' or -
Jared: Yeah, no one ever says, 'Oh that was good' it's like, "Well, this is why that was bad'.
Jensen: Yeah, that's why they're called critics, and you don't get fan reaction. You don't get the people who really love the show or people that the show touched. So all of this has been one incredible journey into just that. Into getting a reaction, feeling energy - Jared and I have said before, but this is your first con so I'll repeat it - we come to these things because it gives us fuel. It gives us fuel to go back on set, keep pushing, keep fighting and keep telling these stories with these characters and digging deeper and trying to layer as much as we can, because we see the impact that it's making right in front of us [gestures to audience]. You don't get that if you don't come to things like this or you don't get to have interactions with people. You're not gonna get that, all you're gonna get is some critical writer who has an axe to grind maybe against a showrunner or something. So all of these interactions mean something to us and it's hard to pick one, I would just say the totality of it is really the most inspiring thing for us and what we really get from this? You know some of you say 'You have no idea what the show means to me'. Well, you have no idea what the show means to us, and you have no idea what you mean to us, because without you, we wouldn't have the show.
Jared: Yeah. 100% what he said? As well, I think for me, I think to try and be an actor or actress or writer or storyteller or director or whatever? You have to have empathy, you have to be interested in other people and their lives, and understand that their lives and experiences are different than your lives and experiences. And so for me it was really difficult at the beginning, 'cause I meet some people and they were so ... grateful? or flattering? Where they'd be like, 'Oh my god, I watched this with my brother or this with my mother or with myself and it meant something to me and I got out of a bad place' and I would take that on. Then the next person would be like, 'Hey! That was a cool fight scene!' And I'd be like, well, I guess they don't really like ... So I was kind of going like bing bang bing bang [makes fast rollercoaster up and down hand motion] bing bang bing bang. And then as I've grown older and had kids it's gradually gone from [makes slower rollercoaster hand motion], like, perceived highs and lows to this really cool spot where even in situations like this, someone will come up and be like, 'Hey, I was in a bad spot and my mom and I watched Supernatural before she lost her life to cancer or something' but the next person will be like, 'Well, I don't have a story like that'. But for me, I've learned that everybody is on - getting to meet so many people in so many cities, I feel so blessed because I've really realized that everybody is in a different stage of their journey, you know? Some people might be listening to an album or watching a tv show or a movie or reading a book and it's really poignant in the moment and they're able to kind of take some lessons and pull them in and then some people might be like, 'I just kinda think your clothes are cool' or something, [Jensen tries not to laugh] and they're both 100% correct. So I think my learning that you're going to meet a thousand different people and they're all at a different point and the show means something differently to all of them at a different point in time. It's certainly - and I've been public about this - but there were times in Supernatural where I didn't want to be alive, and there were times I was on top of the world. And so, going like there's the same story essentially I was telling and a part of, I have the same friends and family and crew and fellow cast and ya'll. So it was like, alright, how do I think about that as far as everybody out here is just a human, like I am, and like he is [points] and we're all gonna have [Jensen makes a see-saw motion with his hand, audience laughs] - he doesn't falter, he doesn't, but uh, most of the rest of us do? Or feel like we have, and so I feel like the, to borrow his word, the totality of the experience, that's continuing thanks to ya'll, has been the most special part. [Jensen nods] Thank you.
Jensen: I will say, real quick? Like a few years ago I was in the airport and I was standing behind this well-dressed guy in a business suit, this man, and he had carryon luggage and we were waiting to board the plane. He kinda turned around and did a double take and was like, 'Hey, did you used to be on that show Supernatural?' I was still on the show. [Jared laughs] And I said that, I was like, 'No. I didn't used to, I'm currently still on the show.' He's like, 'No way! That's still on?' He goes, 'I remember watching that when I was a kid!' And immediately, I was like, 'How old are you?!' And he was like, twenty three or something and he was going on a business trip, like somewhere. I was just like [makes turn around a shoo motions], 'Get on the plane.'
Jared: Leave.
Jensen: Get on the plane. But even that experience with that fan was, uh, very memorable. So whoever that guy was, thanks pal, you made me feel this small [pinches fingers together] that day.
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I recently realised that I'm terrible at describing things (physical appearance of characters, objects, the environment etc.). Have you got any tips for writing physical descriptions of things in a story?
Practice.
Remember that you can go back and add this in later (I'm here right now; I keep forgetting to do this).
Okay! More specific advice!
I think it's helpful to think of it as adding texture to the way the characters interact with their environment, since, after all, that's how humans also get their sensory input--interacting with it.
For example, if you have a sentence like,
John stood when Amber entered the room and closed the curtain.
You can change that to something like:
John unfolded himself from the window seat on the far side of the room as Amber stepped inside, dragging a threadbare curtain closed to filter the midday sun.
This is, obviously, much, much longer. But it also provides a lot more detail about the room they're in. And yet, it's not written as Amber stepping inside and simple observing details, because that's not what I'm trying to focus on. It's just a few details added to how John stands, where he was sitting in the first place, the curtain, what time of day it is, etc.
If you're writing a detective or something, then, yeah, maybe it's appropriate to simply stop the action for a moment to add details devoid of any context, simply to note the details they have noticed, perhaps with their assumptions/conclusions about it. But even there, the character is interacting with the "setting" in some way, even if it's just what they're thinking about it, how they're cataloguing it, and what they notice and consider immediately interesting or useful.
But for the most part, my personal issue is just failing to add enough depth to the world the characters are in to make it feel lived in. So adding details to the characters living in it helps.
When I went back to one of my earlier scenes when editing my current WIP, I thought of how the information might be introduced in a more visual medium, like a movie, as my character traversed his hometown alone. So I added things like the way the roads were paved based on how he adjusted his stride to it and what it sounded like. Different objects that he passed by or used as markers as to where he was. And it added a lot to what the city looked and felt like, but it was centered around how he was interacting with it as he moved through it.
You write that it's summer because the character can feel sticky humidity on their skin. You write that it's winter because the character can feel the cold biting at their ears. You write that a room smells like perfume as the character coughs on it and tries to hold it back politely, worried what others will think of it.
You don't have to simply have a character staring in a mirror to tell me what they look like. Tell me they just got out of the shower so their gold hair looks bronze with water and clings to their neck. They think about needing a haircut; they don't like when it tickles their collarbones.
I hope this was helpful! I can dredge up more examples if needed.
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crystalsonus · 2 years
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babbushka · 3 years
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Drunk Anya ramblings: I love how you talk about how it doesn't feel right to have a f/o when you're building a very real in person relationship. One of the reasons my longest relationship failed (other than him being abusive and unfaithful) early on was because I gave up on my f/o to have something real. My ex had a very hard time letting go of his f/o and he often blurred the lines between that character and myself. He always told me I was crazy for being sad about that bc the character is fictional, but seeing someone else talk about this is extremely validating because while the characters are fiction, the feelings are so so real. *Yelena Belova voice: it was real to me*
Hello my friend! Thank you so much for this message, it's validating for me to see that there's other people out there who are in this very niche situation.
I think that one of the big problems with being online so much, is that often, online lives can start to feel just as tangible and real as IRL physical lives, especially in situations like the pandemic where so much of our interaction with others and sense of community comes from online spaces. I can understand completely how lines might be blurred, especially when dealing with fictional characters and taking their existence too seriously.
People have been telling stories for tens of thousands of years. Storytelling is an intrinsically and exclusively Human activity, and for tens of thousands of years people have taken that extremely seriously. I mean look at religion -- stories told through characters in books are the foundation for some of the most extreme acts in history. And while I'm not here to say whether those books are fact or allegorical fiction (that's a whole other conversation), the majority of stories, and certainly stories that exist within the greater machine of fantasy franchises, are the latter.
But regardless there is a difference between allegorical fictional/fantasy, and actual real genuine life. There is a difference between what happens on the pages of a novel and what happens outside your bedroom. And you are not crazy for wanting your real actual self to be treated with more care than a literal figment of someone's imagination.
Because that's what these characters in stories (especially fanfiction) are -- they're the imagination and invention of someone's mind. That's not inherently a bad thing of course, but when people begin to care more about the imaginary and less about the real people in their lives, you have to cut your losses and move on.
That's why the conversation of trying to condemn "immoral" or "problematic" fandom content doesn't hold water, because at the end of the day, fanfiction is fiction. Movies and television shows and, hell even some documentaries, are a fictitious, altered, romanticized depiction of life. It's not real.
But what is real, are the connections we form with one another. Whether that be a connection formed through a shared appreciation of the fictional world that exists, or through characters of our own design, or through some other thing. The connections between ourselves here in reality, and the actions that we make, the words we say, all of these things will always matter more, and be a better judge of our character, than what we explore through characters in fiction.
I recognize and understand this, but there are a lot of people in the world who don't. And if you're in a relationship with a person like that, then it's absolutely acceptable (and dare I say, expected), that you would feel sad that you're #1 not being treated better than a figment of someone's imagination, and/or #2 you're being treated like a character yourself.
There's nothing wrong with loving characters. They are written because they facilitate the human desire to tell a story. They are loved because they tap into the human desire to read a story. This is their design, to teach, to reflect, to express. We fall in love with characters because we see ourselves in them. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just a matter of recognizing how invested you are in the imaginary, and understanding that at the end of the day, the connections you have with reality and the way that you interact with people in your life will always be more important.
So, all of this is to say, you are not crazy. It is okay to be sad. It is okay to feel attachments to characters (f/o or otherwise). It is also okay to say goodbye to them when they no longer serve their purpose. I'm sending you love!
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hellolaurry-blog · 5 years
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Audience Studies (3P18) Blog Post # 8
Sullivan Chapter 7: Reception contexts and media rituals
Today, from "Good morning" to "Good night," everything happens in social media. Be it connecting new friends, growing the business to the new level, or learning new things. Everything happens here. The best thing is that social media helps to promote audience’s brand, try to engage the audience, and helps to market the products or services. Every day when I sit down at my home computer or fiddle with my smartphone, I am dealing with scientific and technological marvels that only existed in science fiction fifty years ago. In this era, social media has indeed become a necessity in our life.
I have to say social media has got to the point where it shapes our life and makes a significant impact on it. I am a person who is starting the day by taking mobile phones in hand as the first thing in the morning and end the day by using mobile phones. In my iPhone built-in detection of the phone using a screen time display, I was spent more than 4 hours per day on the mobile phone on average, and it does not include my television time.
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Moores has mentioned that context as "everyday micro-setting" or "the routine physical locations and interpersonal relations of reception" (1993). Context not only refers to a place but also refers to the interpersonal relationship and interaction network in this space. The concept of time is also part of this definition, as we are exposed to media at certain times of the day -- sometimes planned, sometimes opportunistic. For me, I usually watch Television for an hour or more after dinner in the living room as I feel it's an excellent way to relax with a Cup of tea. And On weekends I make sure we watch a movie as a family or go to the theater to see the latest movie. Also, if I'm alone, I binge watch a good English series. TV for me is used to promote the relationship with family members. Television provides a focal point for my family to talk about and share ideas. We often discuss the plots and characters in TV series to share our opinions. It gave me a better idea of what my family was thinking. Of course, television has also become a source of conflict in the family because we often have different opinions on the television, and we would argue it.
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Of course, I prefer to watch movies at the cinema rather than at home. Especially the IMAX I personally feel that whether digital or not, IMAX makes escapism even more fun. I feel like I don't just watch a movie; I really become a part of it. According to the article, immersion refers to the degree to which an individual feel involved in particular experiences and is caught up in the presentation of the media (Kim, 2016). As the performance of media content becomes real, the audience feels the presence
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For example, I watched Aquaman in IMAX 3D in December last year. Had I seen it on a standard screen, I would have still loved it since it's a fun action-adventure movie, but the IMAX 3D experience was really one of its kind. IMAX is the only format where getting even downward seats is not an issue. The closer you get to the screen, the bigger and more immersive it feels. For example, while watching Avengers: Infinity War in IMAX 3D, I knew it was Spider-Man on the left side of the screen, yet the size was what made me turn my head to left. Unless you have a backward seat, you won't be able to capture each and everything in the frame at a time, and that in a way is pretty good. It feels much sharper when you are seated downwards. I have also watched movies from upper seats, and the experience still feels immersive. With time, it transforms into something you can call escapism in a real sense. You're no longer in the real world. You're in the world of cinema, and the 3D glasses along with the screen size confirm it.
Kim, K., Cheong, Y., & Kim, H. (2016). The Influences of Sports Viewing Conditions on Enjoyment from Watching Televised Sports: An Analysis of the FIFA World Cup Audiences in Theater vs. Home. Journal of Broadcasting & Electronic Media, 60(3), 389–409. https://doi.org/10.1080/08838151.2016.1203320
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