Re the weird divide in the Beetlejuice fandom, which I really don't get
Fandom is so strange. Just liking Beetlejuice himself as a character has invited all manner of unusual kinks and personal interests into the fandom, and hey, the more the merrier. Beetlefans and netherlings are an assembly of interesting weirdos, so like, you do you. And obviously, this means that you should try not to judge or make assumptions about others based on your own feelings about their interests. Riiiight?
So, Beetlebabes as a ship has been around since the beginning of the fandom, and it certainly seems likely not to be going anywhere with the sequel. Now, my own personal stance on the pairing lies straight in the middle. I think Lydia and Beej have a beautiful friendship in the animated series and musical. They're such a great comedic duo and there's something very pure and sweet about this girl and her bug-man. Their relationship in the musical IS colored by the fact that they're both using and tricking each other a lot of the time, but they seem to have a mutual respect on this point and don't let it ruin their friendship, well until the topic of moms comes up, anyway.
In the movie, it's more complicated. BJ is motivated primarily by his desire to be free and couldn't care less about Lydia's problems. He also gets just a tad creepy with Lydia, though he's not over the top about it. He claims that he thinks that she "really understands me", which is a frickin weird thing to say about a kid who you talked to for like five minutes. But the pervy implications are kept to a minimum so as not to drive the movie into darker territory. His motivations are still kept as primarily a green card thing, although the viewer is still pretty grossed out by the forced, child-bride marriage.
Re BJ, I don't see him as a human or someone who really follows human rules. He's a supernatural creature who has a vague, outsider's understanding of what being human means. Even interpreting him as a ghost and not a demon, he's too different from a human to remember what being one is like. In the musical and cartoon, he relates to Lydia from a child's pov, but tries to behave like an adult with the Maitlands. He's neither, though. He's an unliving, essentially immortal Thing. And while Lydia clearly has a lot of affection for "her monster", she's not exactly into this gross, stinky, creepy old guy. As for BJ, he's very attached to Lydia, perhaps unhealthily so, but he's not being a sexual predator with her.
However, as a Beetlefan, I've seen that it's pretty natural to pair the two up romantically. I certainly shipped them as a kid. And yeah, it's kind of a weird ship, but Beetlejuice as a concept is just weird, period. Weirdness and age gaps are hardly anything new or unique in any part of the internet. Teen fans ship characters their own age with much older characters all the time, and it's not usually frowned upon. But in the Beetlejuice fandom, there appears to be a lot of ship-shaming and accusations of p3d0ph1lia when it comes to this teen/ancient monster pairing, which I'm guessing is a lot more of an internet drama thing than about the actual pairing itself.
Now to be clear, I don't ship teen Lydia with anyone, but I also acknowledge that she's not gonna stay a kid and that things could change between them.
Personally I like the idea of Lydia and BJ being reunited after spending several years apart and things being super weird and tense based on their history. I've become primarily a fan of the relationship dynamic they have in the musical, so I see them as being distrustful of each other and competitive about getting one over the other. But they still gel in a unique way, and they can't help but enjoy their messed-up frenemy thing. And I think the awkwardness of the teen bride thing should be leaned into rather than forgotten or brushed away.
Lydia (to BJ): You really fucked me up, you know. I was just a sad kid who you manipulated. You fuckin creep.
BJ (to Lydia): Yeah but at least I didn't literally STAB YOU THROUGH THE HEART, so...point to me, there.
This type of prickly, antagonistic relationship is like catnip to me, honestly. So it's pretty disappointing and sad that all this fandom drama crap can and probably will affect my ability to share and enjoy beetlebabes content because "beetlebabes dni" appears on so many profiles and posts. It's the kinda thing that makes fandom culture such a double-edged freaking sword. Why can't people ever just let people enjoy the thing they like and try to be respectful of each other, ya know?
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Lyds and the Bugman makin’ art. Was 3/4 of the way through posting this last night when I realized I drew Beej’s feet backwards 😭
So after fixing that, behold! Drew a slightly older Lydia because I could NOT draw a young teen face to save myself lmao. Gave her a tattoo of Sandy bc why the hell not.
Gonna post some requests from last weekend soon, got busy this week at work
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In between sessions...
Y/N: *showing the Maitlands and Lydia how to use Hero Forge* So yeah, the site is pretty simple to navigate, and it's fun to customize!
Barbara: Ooh, so many different options! Look Adam, you can even add animal friends to your figure!
Adam: *nods* There are puppies, bears, cats, and... is that?
Lydia: *Peering over Adam's shoulder* Is that a sandworm?! Is that an option?!
Y/N: What? Pretty sure there's no sandworm option on the site. Let me see *looks at the computer*
*the "sandworm" on the screen turns to face Y/N, the Maitlands, and Lydia and grins*
Adam and Barbara: *shrieks*
Lydia: *snickers and rolls her eyes*
Y/N: GODS DAMMIT BJ! Stop screwing with my computer! I can help you create your character later tonight
*Beetlejuice appears in a puff of smoke next to Y/N*
BJ: *mocking Y/N* 'Don't mess with my computer, BJ!' , 'Stop trying to seduce Adam's character, BJ!' , 'Quit trying to eat my dice, BJ!' You never let me have any fun babes
Y/N: Okay first of all, I do NOT sound like that. Secondly, computers are expensive to replace. Third, we've talked SEVERAL times about you trying to seduce Adam's character!
BJ: Pfft! *rolls eyes* Whatever, Lyds! Back me up here!
Lydia: Sorry Beej, you're on your own.
Y/N: Finally, and I can't stress this enough, MY DICE ARE NOT FOOD!
BJ: Hmph! Well that's your opinion. If dice aren't food, then why do they look like candy?
Y/N: *grabs a pillow and presses it to her face* "Muffled screams"
Lydia, Adam, and Barbara: *Facepalm*
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Anonymously… tell me your favorite Beetlejuice fanfic.
Give me a little taste.
What’s it called?
Who wrote it?
Where can it be found?
What universe is it? (Ie. Movie, Toon, Motoon, Musical, 3B)
And finally, why do you like it?
(You can send more than one.)
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My Beetlejuice fics.
They're a mixture of the Beetlejuice cartoon and the movie. One is strictly the movie. Most are explicit. Check the tags.
All are for Beetlebabes, so if you don't Ship Beej and Lyds these aren't for you.
They go in three arcs (but of course you can read them in any order):
Fics about Beej & Lyds meeting and getting to know each other.
Falling In Loathe: How Beetlejuice and Lydia Met. I confess this is my favorite. Here's an illustration I did for the opening scene in Chapter 1.
The First Of Many.
The King of Sin.
2. Fics about how they became lovers.
Coming of Age. And Coming of Age: The Alternate, Explicit Ending. And some art I did for it.
Homework. This is an alternate version of "Coming of Age," so some of the elements from that are re-imagined here.
Jingle Juice (or) Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood. This is a Christmas-themed comic I wrote and drew, based on a disco song. Seriously.
3. Mostly humor, about Beej & Lyds as a couple.
A Beetlejuice & Lydia Valentine. My second favorite fic.
School Visit.
House Call.
Flashback. Some fantastic art done by an anonymous reader (thanks again, whoever you are).
Blind Date.
Nature Lovers.
Guy Talk.
And one Movieverse fic:
Beetlejuice Is NOT the Bad Guy.
Have at 'em.
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