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olreid · 5 years
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betty cooper is nuts i’m obsessed w her
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szopenhauer · 4 years
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Elisabeth
what this name reminds me of:
my aunt, Elizabeth Bennet, character from my gf’s book (Lisa), Lisa Simpson, lizard, classic music, dunno why but also Snicket’s book series of Unfortunate events somehow, pink or purple color, Melanie Martinez, Lana Del Rey, number eight, sword, sabertooth tiger, bed, death/murder, breathing, Betty Cooper (from Riverdale), rope, Liza Minelli, eleven (also the one from Stranger things), magazine Elle, nursery rhymes, bath, fur, butterflies, cute pigs, bows, fringe, lace, ruffles, lollipops, cotton candy, meat, oatmeal/cereals and such, infinity, heart shapes, Ellen Page, Eleanor from my book, L word show, lesbians, mystery/thriller/crime/drama (either novel or movie), Death note anime, sadly also Ellen DeGeneres that I hate lol sorry
for @a-zebra-is-a-striped-horse
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ladyshilya · 5 years
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Riverdale: Chapter Seventy Three: The Locked Room
Let’s see what happens when they reveal that Jughead is alive and confront Stonewall prep.
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It’s great to hear Jughead narrate the show because it was weird last episode with him not doing it. While Jughead is “dead” Betty and Archie are continuing the charade that they are together. Everyone is still dealing with the loss of Jugehead. We do learn that Jellybean overhead Betty talking with Charles so she knew Jughead was alive. FP was told before they did the search party. We all know how everyone else knew. Betty gets Jughead from the Bunker because is time to go after Stonewall prep kids but also because they found a mysterious person. My first thought is Judhead’s grandfather since we saw him earlier in the season. Unless Mr. Chipping didn’t really die otherwise it would have to be someone we forgot about.
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Betty and Jughead interrupt a the literary society’s meeting. Many of them were shocked to see Jughead’s alive but of course Donna was happy to see that she was right that he was alive. Betty locks the door starting the whole tale of what happened. They start way back with the DuPont stealing the Baxter Brother’s from Jughead grandfather because that is the real cause of everything. We all know that Moose was brought to the school by Mr. Chipping and after Halloween Mr. Chipping did everything to get Mouse to leave the school. It seems that every year a new ghostwriter was picked for the Baxter Brother’s series is the same year a student went missing and thus the Stonewall 4. It seems the whole reason for inviting Moose to the school was for him to be killed. Mr. Chipping couldn’t do it so he got Moose out and then killed himself. Basically to win the Baxter Brother’s contract basically the person has to pull off the perfect murder. Which is how we know that everyone in Quill and Skull had a hand in Jughead’s “murder” because they all helped rewrite his novel. Donna is claiming that Jonathan is not there became of a food poisoning. Yea, the kind that get you killed.
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We also learn how they gave Jughead CPR to save his life and how Charles helped them by bringing an FBI med vehicle for Jughead. Now we know when Charles was officially brought in. DuPont considers this to be a great story but it can’t be proven. They went to all the past ghostwritters of the Baxter Brother’s and they all lawyered up when confronted. DePont claims he never told anyone to kill their fellow students and he never killed any of those people so he cannot be convicted of their murders. Let’s be honest he’s a just a different kind of serial killer. Now there is the fact that everyone from the original Quill and Skull were all killed. At this point the mystery guest is brought in by FP and Charles who is none other then Jughead’s grandfather. I knew it was going to be him. It seems that one of the guys came to see the original Forsythe to warn him DuPont was killing everyone. Two days later that person died. Forsythe did the only thing he could do and went for a pack of smokes and never came back. This is also why Jughead was recruited to the school to bring his grandfather out of hiding. During the time Forsythe was in hiding he collected evidence to prove that DuPont was behind everyone’s death. Charles and FP looked through DuPont house and found the trophy’s he collected from everyone he had killed. Charles went to arrest DuPont but he decided to jump out the window. Really, how did no one see that he was going to do that, he kept backing up towards the window. I called that while watching it.
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Now with DuPont dead, so Charles takes a stab at interrogating Donna, Bret, and Joan. Joan has diplomatic immunity through her father so she is not going to be a help. Donna keeps trying to lie but eventually says that DuPont gave her Mr. Chipping’s tie pin and to make it look like a suicide. Which is was but one Mr. Chipping felt pressured to do. When Charles talked to Bret and tried to offer him a deal if he turns in the sex tapes, Bret offered a counter for less charges or he would release Jughead and Betty’s sex tape. Charles when out to think about it and in came FP and Jughead to show Bret how Serpent’s negotiate. Charles then comes back into the room because it seems that Bret is willing to cooperate with the investigation now.
They find the sex tapes hidden behind the school crest, Jughead does the smart thing and destroys his. Are there no cameras in that school? Wouldn’t security see a someone messing with the crest. Or did Bret pay them off, I guess that is more likely. Alice gives a great report on what happened at the school. Betty pays a visit to Donna who is packing up because she is transferring schools. It is here we learn the truth about Donna. It seems her grandmother was one of the original Quill and Skulls’ members. Donna came to school because her goal was to get close to DuPont and make him pay. What Betty didn’t know was that her grandmother came up with Tracy True so she was also stolen from. Which is why Donna is so happy she got the Baxter Brother’s contract but its going in a different direction with a focus on Tracy True. Betty tells Donna to drop the Baxter Brother’s contract because so many people had to die in order for her to get revenge. If Donna doesn’t she will realize the proof she has of Donna’s linage as well as evidence to support Donna’s whole revenge plot. Betty promises Donna that she will be watching her. Let’s be honest Jughead’s should have the contract with a deal that is better then all the rest to help his family get back some of the money that should have been theirs in the first place. DuPont took advantage of Forsythe when he made that deal.
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Cheryl thinks that the whole Betty and Archie pretend dating was more realistic then they are letting on. Jughead is back at Riverdale High because there is no legal reason for him no to be. Betty and Veronica tell both Jughead and Archie they are going to do everything to ensure that they graduate. Like Veronica needs anything else on her plate. Kevin sits down to join the table because they all are signing up for the variety show. Which I am guessing will be the next episode.
We finally have the full story, I will admit I didn’t even factor the Stonewall 4 into being important to the whole plot. I should have because it was mentioned so much but I kept thinking that they were using it as fear tactic. I should have paid more attention to that part of the story. Otherwise everything else makes complete sense and was pretty much all things we knew. We didn’t know who had hit Jughead with the rock and the fact it wasn’t Bret or Donna, I am a bit shocked by. With who manipulative Donna was being and how invested she was in on all of this it makes sense it was for revenge. I wasn’t sure if she had a motive or if she was a sociopath. They all seemed to have some level of sociopathic tendencies so it wasn’t outside the realm of possibilities.
I am happy that part of the story is done because everyone still needs to figure out what Charles is up to since we all know he has an angle is he is playing. Granted he was a great help with bringing Stonewall down but it still doesn’t change the fact he is working with Chic. They have something planned and I want to know what it is.
Also I don’t know how I feel about the whole possible Betty and Archie happening. I know she was one if his main gf’s in the comics. Cheryl is also one of Archie’s gfs in the comics. Unless they are going to break up her and Toni which will have a lot of people pissed off myself included there is no point in trying to make all the actual relationships happen. Not to mention they would have to bring Sabrina in at some point because she also dated Archie. I am really happy I have not had to watch a show about Archie being the village bicycle. I am even more happy I didn’t have to watch love triangle on repeat between Betty, Archie and Veronica. I am really over the whole love triangle thing. I feel its played out at this point.
I was right the next episode will be the variety show which will be fun because I do enjoy those episodes. I wonder how are going to do them when they are not all in high school anymore.
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staliasjeronica · 5 years
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Riverdale 3.18 Thoughts *Spoilers*
First of all, I have not seen Riverdale in like a million years because it has just gotten so crazy and stupid and I’m sick of Bughead and Hiram for some reason going after his daughter for one stupid thing and it’s just repetitive and boring. Like, I have watched SO many greater shows since I just stopped caring to watch, but I heard that Bughead will break up and Jeronica might become actual friends, and that Hiram is arrested, and shit like that, plus the first episode of the fourth season is a tribute to Luke so I feel obligated to catch up before then to watch it. Either way I hate not finishing a season, especially after watching it for two whole seasons now, so… enjoy my technically not-spoilers since it’s been out for awhile thoughts on this episode of Riverdale! P.S. Bare with me if I have forgotten anything since it’s been awhile.
- AWW NO I REMEMBER THIS THOUGH, POOR BABY TEETH :( He was such an adorable little shit he didn’t deserve this.
- Oh yeah FP is the Sheriff… and Jughead is at a crime scene even though he should not be allowed there (Even if the gang is like… sheriff’s in training or whatever the fuck) Still not sure how I feel about FP, and I can’t wait for my rightful queen Toni to rip the serpents from Jughead’s cold dead hands (even though he’s obviously not dead)
- God damn Betty and Edgar again… she still bothers me. Does she realize that looking up his name might not get her anywhere because he’s not famous and therefore won’t have anything on him? I mean yeah maybe small town shit but like she’s acting like twenty million pages of him and his cult should be on the web.
- He walked in the desert to die? Psh alright… sounds stupid as fuck. He acts like farming opened his eyes to how beautiful life is like… chill bruh it’s not that amazing. I mean, it is, but he’s making it out to be like this BIG BIG thing when it’s not… burying and watering seeds doesn’t make you feel reborn.
- Betty had a point about it not telling her about how her mom can see Charles (even though I know he’s alive lolol we all knew)
- Oh yeah Archie got that one place from Hiram… but that dumb bitch asking how they can honor Baby Teeth as if he doesn’t know that you could simply just… stay silent for a few minutes to mourn, or shit like that. But my boy Mad Dog can also dedicate his next match to him too lol
- Fucking Elio NOBODY LIKES HIM OR THE STORYLINES HE BRINGS. LIKE HIRAM.
- My baby Veronica!!! Love my queen. CHERYL!!!!!!!!!!!! MY OTHER QUEEN. FANGS MY WHITE COVERED BABY!!!! Poor Toni watching her gf be hypnotized by a fucking cult
- Oh good a horrible plan from Jughead that will probably induce Betty to do something stupid and awful and then pretend like she can do it because she’s Betty Cooper… can’t wait…
- Like, they could have tried it out with Fangs/Kevin because they KNOW that Midge is dead.
- YES TONI GO AFTER BETTY FOR USING HER COUSIN. YOU FUCKING GO BABY
- Betty still has that video lol wow what a conniving bitch of a cousin she is. She said she deleted it, and they’re trying to make it out to be a good thing that she lied about a video…
- Veronica my queen,,, I hate that they tie her to Elio’s annoying bitch ass.
- That body does not fucking look like Baby Teeth,,, anyways
- I mean a human could do that lol you just mean that they don’t have a care for anyone. If this weren’t human, they would be like burned from the inside or some insane shit like that… stop being dramatic doc
- What kind of crack… HE TAKES TWO SWINGS AT FP AND THEN STOPS SO FP CAN FUCKING HIT HIM LOLOLOL WOW
- Alice! I miss the old her, before the writers decided to try and destroy her. But lmao this news broadcast tho
- Still can’t believe that they made out Betty and her father’s budding relationship a good thing. The fucking… WHAT? Why? How? Literally stop. Thank GOD Hiram or Penelope ends up murdering his ass…
- FP, THE SHERIFF, SHOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT THIS CRAZY SHIT TO HIS FIFTEEN YEAR OLD SON
- GOD I mean I get it, Cheryl needs to be brought back but that would be too convenient wouldn’t it… I’m sorry it’s fabricated??? Omfg “have you ever hugged Jason?” CHERYL’S PAUSE. SHE GOT TO HER FOR A SECOND GUHFADSBFKSFHAKSJ
- If this didn’t work with Cheryl, this won’t work with Alice. But Betty doesn’t communicate with people so she wouldn’t know. Also, there’s no date on it so like… she’s bad at making Charles’ gravestone look real. Like, I already know that she’s undercover with the FBI with Charles bc yeah but like… why wouldn’t they just loop Betty in? She could finally back off and stop getting into people’s business.
- AH THERE’S THE STUPID BETTY COOPER ACTION THAT IS NEVER NECESSARY TO ANYTHING!!! Fucking Betty, you chloroform your fucking mom???
- Archie basically calling himself Jughead… ew… Jughead could never
- I know it’s going to happen but I don’t want Varchie to get back together.
- SHE EVEN FUCKING CUFFED HER TO THE BED OH MY FUCKING GOD send Betty to an actual psychiatric hospital far away, not only because then she won’t be in the fucked up town of Riverdale and actually get help, but because then the show could actually give other actors more screen time
- This literally seems like an evil villain showing the hero their backstory… also Alice gotta point she got the news job because of the farm. Betty we know you never think things through, just stop you’re soo fucking bad. Why does her crying for Betty’s 8th grade graduation mean that she’s not who she is now? That has NOTHING to do with her at the farm??????????? Why does she say “that was the past” like it changes nothing why you acting like it does?
- Betty all of your points really are so traumatic for Alice. Like, yeah I get it you and Polly were raised there but she married a fucking murderer and yet this is all about you. I mean, it makes sense but they make Betty push it so hard that I root against her.
- If I were Alice, I’d be so fucking horrified of my daughter. Like, she has done so much shit to her, and yeah Alice has done bad things too but at least she’s being brainwashed (? bc she’s undercover and not able to get out of her cover?) Betty should not be so okay with fucking chloroforming her own mother.
- Betty really acting like this is all on her huh…. I mean literally bring other people into the plot it’s not that hard to actually make it interesting and share the screen time
- Ummmm alright. Also why would you let her take “G” or whatever the fuck??? ALSO JUGHEAD WHY THE FLYING FUCK DON’T YOU TELL YOUR DAD THAT IT’S YOUR FUCKING MOM???
- Evelyn get the FUCK away from Toni. THE ICONIC LINE “Bitch, I love her.” fsjdkhfhaskjfdhsf
- MAD DOG!!! Of course Randy is taking drugs. I mean, that’s cheating so just tell the news and get him disqualified and you win… easy. My boy is NOT taking drugs.
- JELLYBEAN!!!! AND RICKY!!!! I mean yeah they’re both little shits but uhhh that’s kinda sweet
- Lmao how did she start burning those pictures tho… I mean good for her but like… how?
- Betty… threatening to kill someone is NOT a good thing. Get some fucking help. Like, she’s not even scary. Does no one remember how sweet she used to be? I’d be so fucking concerned for her.
- Ew, kombucha? Cheryl, the farm doesn’t need you for brewing kombucha lolol
- FANGS!!!!!!!!!!! But isn’t he a part of the farm when did he get messed up into this boxing shit tho? DID HE EVEN KNOW BABY TEETH? I mean, yes baby get  screen time, but???
- Edgar saying that Betty is a good person… sksksksks since when? And of course she’s afraid of her daughter, she literally doesn’t care about anyone but herself or Jughead and that is not good. I mean poor Betty for having to hear that but Alice isn’t wrong.
- Did… Did Betty not listen to those tapes at all? I know Edgar is a cult leader and therefore he tricks people into doing and saying what he wants but he never said SHIT to turn Alice against Betty. Betty’s doing that all by herself. He literally said that Betty loved her… he’s right you have given her so many reasons to fear you.
- Betty knows that a therapist is to help people? Then why the FUCK doesn’t she get an actual therapist? She desperately needs it.
- Edgar is actually pretty good with words tbh… but then again he kinda has to in order to be a cult leader
- So no one at the Farm is going to get her arrested for kidnapping? FP would have to arrest her lol but alright
- Varchie FRIENDSHIP is cute but I don’t want them to get back together ugh I know it happens but NOOOOOOOO why does the CW always ruin everything good?
- LUKE!!! 😭😭😭😭😭
- Evelyn really trying to make herself the most hated character by breaking up the best couple lol but I’m so disgusted bc I know that Toni ends up actually wanting to be in the farm… if I remember correctly…
- I mean you’re not a MONSTER, Betty, but you’re an awful person.
- I don’t like Kurtz but I really like the actor for him.
- PLEASE TELL ME MY BOY DIDN’T TAKE DRUGS. AWWW JOSIEEEEEEEE I miss her so much she and Archie deserved better.
- When Betty actually does the right thing (having a change of heart for the good) ssksks I’m not used to Betty actually using her brain. It makes it worse that it’s only because of a cult leader but uhhhh
- THE REF SHOULD BE ABLE TO CALL THE DISQUALIFICATION??? That’s so cheating and that is so fucked…
- Also I love that Archie still has the fake serpent tattoo.
- LMAO FUCK YOU ELIO, EVEN DRUGS CAN’T GET YOUR PEOPLE TO WIN. oh… of course he’s gonna fucking die.
- Ugh I forgot that The Gargoyle King was a thing. It’s just so fucking stupid…
- Poor JB,,, anyways go to your dad to help
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tailsbeth-writes · 7 years
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The Serpent Or Me - Part 3 (Bughead/Serpent!Jughead x Serpent!Reader)
Jughead has never cared about fitting in, as long as he has Betty and the gang he knows he has his place in Riverdale. However, Southside High has brought him an odd comfort and new friends very easily. The serpents have taken him under their wing, one in particular y/n has started to show him how things work in the gang. Jughead starts to grow a fondness for y/n that feels uneasy, he’s stuck between two worlds. Where or who should he choose?
Part 1    Part 2
Characters/Pairings: Betty, Veronica, Kevin, (Mentioned) Bughead, Serpent!Reader.
Warnings: None.
Word Count: 1672.
Notes: Apologies this took so long! I’ve scheduled a day next week to write, going to get working on future instalments of this. I’m still sticking with the 3 POVs (Jughead, Reader and Betty) but I want to bring in the other characters’ storylines to create a fuller story. The plan is to release a new part every Friday. Fingers crossed all goes to plan.
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Betty’s POV
Sometimes you just need your best friend and a strawberry milkshake. Ronnie and I had arranged to meet up at Pop’s for a mid-week girls night. I needed to rant and I think Veronica needed to as well.
I sat in my usual booth waiting for Veronica, Pop brought over our milkshakes, we didn’t even need to tell him what flavour anymore. I looked around the diner and you could tell Riverdale was unsettled. First Jason Blossom’s murder and then Archie’s dad being shot in this very space, everyone felt tense. So much for the Town with pep.
The door chimed, Veronica finally arrived, only ten minutes late. She slid in the booth opposite me, her shoulders were slightly slumped.
‘I really needed this.’ Veronica started sipping on her chocolate milkshake.
‘You okay V?’ I asked, knowing the answer already.
‘Oh you know, usual Archie stuff. I’m not sure what else I can really do.’ Her eye contact was hesitant, she twirled her straw round the glass.
‘Has he opened up anymore? I’m really worried about him. In all the time I’ve known Archie, I’ve never seen him like this.’
‘He’s pretty much shut down all his emotions. I’m really worried too B, I think he might be planning revenge. When he does dare say a word to me, it’s only ever about the police investigation. Do you know if he said anything to Jughead?’ Ronnie looked at me with hopeful eyes, but sadly all I could do was disappoint her.
‘He text me after he visited him last weekend, I’m afraid he got the same. Jughead’s just as worried as but I think he’s got a lot on his plate right now.’ My mouth twisted as I finished the sentence. I could feel my hands clenching. Ronnie put a manicured hand on mine.
‘B, what is it?’ She raised her eyebrows at me, concerned.
‘It’s just-’ I bit my lip. Saying it out made it real.
‘Jughead is officially a serpent. He did his first job. I tried to talk him out of it but he was so set on it. I’m still getting used to him being at Southside High and now this.’ I could feel tears running down my face. All my emotions had been bottled up since I saw Jughead on Friday.
‘Betty, I had no idea you were feeling this way. I’m so sorry.’ She squeezed my hand, her eyes softening in my direction. She passed me over a napkin. I dabbed at my wet cheeks, but now I’d started I’d need a lot more napkins.
‘What’s made it worse is he’s buddied up with this girl, y/n, she’s another serpent. When he first mentioned her, I didn’t think much of it but they seem to be together a lot, just like we-’ I couldn’t say it out loud. Veronica gave me a nod, knowing how painful this realisation was. I missed Jughead so much, the more time he spent at Southside High, the more I feared for our relationship.
‘Have you met this girl? Or even seen her? Betty, nobody could compete with you. Jughead loves you, I know it’s hard but if anyone can get through this, it’s you and Jughead.’ Ronnie knew exactly what I needed to hear. There was a reason she was my best friend.
‘Thanks Ronnie.’ I gave her a little smile back. I felt bad I hadn’t been better at comforting her.
‘You know things are going to work out with Archie? You’re Veronica Lodge, you can conquer anything that comes your way.’ I tried my best to lift my friend up, she needed it. Veronica gave a chuckle back. Her phone started to buzz.
Mom: You coming home soon? I need to talk to you xx
‘Well I can conquer almost anything, just not curfew unfortunately.’ I gave her a fake puppy dog face. She laughed at me, the sound was comforting and familiar. Ronnie took out her purse but I quickly stopped her.
‘This is my treat.’ A grin grew across her face. We stood up from the booth and I put my arms around her. She gave me a light squeeze before letting go.
‘Thanks Betty. I needed this little escape. We need to do it more often, deal?’ There was a little desperation in her voice, unlike her usual confident tone.
‘Definitely. I needed this too.’ Veronica’s phone buzzed in her hand again, she glanced down at it quickly.
‘I better go, Mom’s being super cryptic with her texts. Better go find out what she wants. See you tomorrow Betty.’ She quickly turned on her heels and was out the door. I slid back into the booth and took out my own phone.
Me: Hey, just thinking about you… xx
I sat patiently, waiting for a reply. I looked around the diner, it was pretty quiet. There was a family a few booths up from me, they were laughing in unison. I stared over to the back booth. It was where you used to find Jughead most nights, working away on his novel. I couldn’t even remember the last time we spoke about his novel. My phone vibrated, I looked at the screen. It was not who I expected.
Kevin: Hey my favourite blonde, what are you up to Friday night? It’s been forever since we had a sleepover, I miss my bestie :( x
I smiled down at my phone. Through all the craziness of the past year, I’d lost touch with Kevin.
Me: You bring the movies, I’ll provide the popcorn. I miss the old times, this is exactly what I need. :) x
Kevin: Me too, can’t wait! X
At least Kevin was reliable to text back quickly. I was really looking forward to Friday, Kevin was great at getting me out of my head and seeing the bigger picture. He had a little knowledge of what I was going through too, after his relationship with Joaquin. Plus he always picked the best movies. It was a welcome distraction.
I sipped the last of my milkshake and got ready to go, as I slipped my jacket on, I felt my phone vibrate again.
Jug <3: I’m always thinking about you, my Juliet x x x
My stomach filled with butterflies. We were going to be okay. Right?
‘The Breakfast Club or Pretty in Pink?’ Kevin asked, a DVD in each hand.
‘Pretty in Pink first, then Breakfast Club.’ I answered cheerfully, 80s movies were my favourite.
‘Good answer.’ Kevin put the DVD in my laptop and made himself at home amongst my pillows. I laid back, positioning the cushions to make myself comfortable. I took a deep breath, this felt right. My hair was down and my onesie was on. I turned to look up at Kevin, he was wearing his favourite plaid pyjamas. A sly smile lit up his face as he noticed me.
‘Betty, I know I’m gorgeous but the laptop is that direction.’ He pointed forward. I couldn’t help but laugh.
‘I’ve missed this so much.’
‘Me too. I’ve missed you Betty.’ He gave me a humble smile.
‘I’ve missed you too Kevin. I’m sorry I’ve not really been there for you. This year has been crazy.’
‘Can you remember when the biggest problem you had was how you were going to ask out Archie?’ I blushed, we both laughed at how ridiculous that seemed now. I let out a sigh.
‘Who would have thought it… you and Jughead.’
‘I know.’ I murmured.
‘How’s things with you two?’ Kevin asked innocently. I fumbled with my hands. If me and Kevin were going to get back to normal, I had to be completely honest with him. I sat up right and turned to him, his face looked curious.
‘Things are complicated. He’s officially a serpent.’
‘Woah, personally I didn’t think Jughead had it in him.’ I rolled my eyes at him.
‘Well he does unfortunately. I’ve only just started adjusting to him being in Southside and then this happens. Plus there’s this girl he’s become friends with, y/n. She’s getting to spend all this time with him, time that I should be spending with him.’ I pulled my knees up and hugged myself. I could feel a hand on my head, Kevin was lightly stroking my hair.
‘It’s going to be okay Betty. Things will fall into place. I’m the Sherriff’s son and I managed to date a serpent. If I can, then Betty Cooper certainly can. I honestly think Jughead’s just looking for a family right now and the Serpents are really tight. Just make sure he knows you’re there for him. That’s all that matters.’ He put his arms around me and pulled me into a hug.
‘As for this girl, you can’t expect Jughead to not make friends right? I know he’s got this whole emo loner vibe going but everyone needs friends to survive high school, especially somewhere like Southside. And hey, if you’re really curious, ask to meet her. It shows you’re taking an interest in his new life.’ As I soaked in Kevin’s words, I could feel my thoughts unknot. I gave his arm a little squeeze.
‘What would I do without you, wise one?’
‘I have no idea, I’m basically a life coach.’ I let out a little laugh.
‘Seriously, thank you Kevin.’ I sat up, he smiled sincerely at me. I grabbed the bowl of popcorn from the bedside table.
‘Now as much as I love chit-chatting, I’d like to check in with Molly Ringwald.’ He quipped.
‘Not a problem.’ I passed him the popcorn. I decided to take Kevin’s advice, I quickly grabbed my phone from my desk.
Me: Hey Juggie, miss you as always. Kev is here and we’re watching 80s movies, I’m sure you’d approve. So I was wondering if I could maybe meet some of your new friends, like y/n or whoever. I feel like a gf should surely know who her bf’s friends are, haha :) xxx
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SPOILERS FOR RIVERDALE EP 12
FIRST OFF, HOLY FUCK
-  Veronica, I love you but not everything is about you and your father. Really just stop. “Your dad pulled the trigger jughead” And how fucking dare you give up so easily like you searched the trailer and you saw nothing  “Yeah we checked the trailer and saw nothing so your dad is being framed” to “Your dad is working with my dad so yeah sorry he killed jason blossom” I am disappointed in you Veronica
- Betty, you are the gf everyone wants Even though I’m not a big fan of jughead, thank you for supporting him like you are the best girlfriend ever You found the USB and proved FP is innocent like fuck yeah girl
- Archie being a great friend to Jughead and always being there for him
- Cole’s acting is meh but in this episode he did so well 
- FRED ANDREWS I KNOW YOU’RE TRYING TO PROTECT ARCHIE BUT
-”Purely Blossom” O H M Y G O S H
- Hal revealing that the Coopers are actually Blossoms You could have done that so long ago and none of this would have ever happened
-PENELOPE BLOSSOM DRAGGING CHERYL TO THE BARN LIKE I THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO LOCK HER UP IN A FUCKING CAGE BUT INSTEAD SHE JUST SHOWED HER MAPLE SYRUP LIKE HOW FUCKING EXTRA
- Kevin and Joaquin is the real ship here c’mon
- Betty being concerned for Cheryl’s safety >>>>
-Alice Copper is our savior
-FP JONES AND JUGHEAD SCENE FP WAS PROTECTING JUGHEAD HE LOVED JUGHEAD SO MUCH THAT HE CONFESSED TO THE MURDER OF JASON BLOSSOM HE KNEW THAT HE’LL GO TO PRISON AND NEVER SEE JUGHEAD AGAIN BUT HE DID IT BC HE DIDN’T WANT HIS BOY TO GET HURT CAN YOU HEAR MY HEAR MY SCREAMING
- CHERYL AND JUGHEAD SCENE ITS SO HEARTBREAKING I LOVE IT I WAS IN TEARS 
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Riverdale 1x10 thoughts
Under the cut, bcos as usual it’s long and boring - lol 
Jughead’s narrative talked about order and chaos and also control and we saw elements of all these in the episode. It was kind of jarring that there was hardly any advancement as far as the murder plot was concerned, and it derailed things for me a bit, but then the episode had a lot of Jughead and Bughead, so I’m not complaining.
Archie telling Betty about Jughead’s birthday was sweet, but was that him taking the initiative and being supportive or was it clouded in something else Archie-like? I was having a discussion with @blueandgoldd and going by what was mentioned in the synopsis about Archie trying to make amends with Val and Betty hijacking his plans, I wonder if Archie’s insistence on Betty going to the movies didn’t have something to do with the fact that he was going to use that time to reconcile with Val? Was that his plan since Fred wasn’t going to be around and Juggie would be away with Betty? If that was the case, I���m sure he could’ve told Jug and he would’ve understood and supported him. Or maybe it’s the classic Archie conflict between being selfish and doing the right thing.  
Betty called FP ---eeep. OMG! She’s adorable!
Jordan said that Chuck was truly apologizing to Ethel. Does that mean Betty coming at him triggered him to turn nasty? He flips so much – he was like Relax Betty, till she doubted him and then he went – oh are you going to go dark Betty on me? It’s like she provoked him and he provoked her. Even at the party he started out saying that what Betty and Ronnie did totally ruined his chances and then when Betty was unapologetic, he turned lechery and nasty. But no one can convince me he went to party with no bad intentions, he was smirking when Cheryl asked him to join her in destroying their arch-nemesi! Yeah sorry, Jordan, Chuck is evil!
The gang discuss the party, and Archie takes a look at Val at the next table and changes his mind about it. What in her look made him do that when he was against it moments before? He had judged correctly that Juggie wouldn’t enjoy it. Is this classic Archie side-stepping– deflect aka ignore what’s going on by pretending everything’s ok & having a good time. He forgot all about Juggie in that moment and decided he wanted to have fun.
Then Betty deflects – this is classic Betty, she wants an outlet to pour all her energy into. And now Juggie’s party has become her latest project and she will leave no stone unturned to make sure it’s a success, right from the shape of the cake to the list of party supplies to the invitees and the crown T- shirt that she wears. “There’s a lot I can’t do, a lot I can’t control but I can make sure my boyfriend has the best birthday party ever.” Oh Betty! That “control” word!
She’s back at it again convincing FP to come over and she’s so earnest and persuasive that he cannot say no. She rarely, if ever, gives up. But how cute and how naïve Betty is for thinking that FP being there would be special for Juggie? Maybe she’s right in a way, Juggie’s always yearned for “normal” things, like a happy, united family because it’s something he could never have. His pushing FP to get a job and clean up his act is mainly because he wants to see his family together (even if said family wasn’t the happiest from his talk with Archie). Which means all of his family’s troubles were because of FP’s alcoholism. If Juggie believes that one act of FP quitting his drink can bring his family back, then it certainly must be the single-most driving force behind his mom leaving and also all those fights that he said happened all the time.
This episode showed the actual side-stepping behaviour of the core four. Betty does it by engaging in something else and making it her project, and Archie turns to something that distracts him or makes him happy – some frivolous pursuit. And Juggie does it by short circuiting, by lashing out, and by his sardonic humor. He was pretty non-confrontational till the last episode but this episode clearly triggered him – the party and everything else associated with it and brought to the fore his real fears.
Ronnie, by far, I think has the healthiest side-stepping behaviour, she actually talked to Archie about her fears, but I feel maybe that make-out was partly a diversionary tactic? I mean, she does like Archie romantically, we’ve seen that, but she’s never been compelled to do anything. Plus she’s never been jealous of him and Val or him and Cheryl which makes me wonder if she really thought about being with him or it was just the spur of the moment thing to start with but later snowballed into actual feelings?
Alice is great about Betty falling for this “Jones boy” but her advice to Betty not to share everything with him kinda sucked. Which led me to wonder what she told Hal that he used against her? Things about herself that she struggled with? Like her identity as a serpent? Did Hal believe that Alice killed Jason? Is that why he stole the evidence from Keller? Because he was worried Alice’s background and her hatred for the Blossoms could make her the prime suspect? If he did that, I think that works in nicely with Lochlyn saying Hal has good reason to be over-protective.
It’s quite interesting that they made Ethel to be a polar opposite of what she is in the comics physically. Which means that her character might be a polar opposite of Big Ethel too – like clearly she’s not interested in Jughead. She may not be interested in boys at all.  But we’ll see. Didn’t they say we’ll see Ethel with someone quite different?
Which brings me to who told Cheryl about the shindig at that chowderhead Archie’s house??? I made a post about this earlier. Cheryl’s lackeys weren’t around in the lunch room when the four of them were talking (anyway she’d dismissed them but didn’t they show up at the party? At least I definitely saw Tina) and only Ethel was invited outside of their inner circle. Also, Joaquin but does Joaquin even know Cheryl? Only Val was close, she could’ve heard. Is she close to Cheryl as an extension of Josie being her friend? Why would she agree to gatecrash the party anyway? She wasn’t friends with Jughead and she’d just broken up with Archie. And from what we saw of Val in the last episode, she seems like a girl of integrity. So her being at the party was just plot driven?
Juggie actually sees Archie telling Betty about his birthday as primal betrayal! Which makes that PTSD all the more believable. Poor kid must’ve had it so bad. Juggie must’ve had a really high EQ even when he was younger, if he could feel this way. He was always so attuned to his emotions and what he felt, he couldn’t ignore them. So he deflected in other ways. By not making a big deal, by hiding stuff and keeping secrets, by pretending everything was normal – which we’ve seen him do too when he lost his home. So him saying that his birthday was the family pretending to be normal and him feeling lonely is actually quite ironic since he does it too now. But at least he acknowledges that it sucked and made him feel lonely which is admitting to feelings instead of brushing them the under the carpet.
Ronnie found out that the Blossoms made large payments to the Lodges starting 75 years ago and it only stopped when Hiram was sent to jail. This must have something to do with the Maple syrup feud with the Coopers and great- Grandpa Blossom murdering G-Grandpa Coop. Maybe Grandpa Lodge uncovered some truths, that proved the Blossoms weren’t the rightful claimants to the land, and he was paid to keep his mouth shut. He may have negotiated a perpetuity for his family that continued for 3 generations.
Hermione (and the lawyer) thinking it’s a good idea to keep the info from the lawyers bcos her husband might become a murder suspect when he’s already languishing in jail for a crime he did actually commit – ummm? Really??
The dance-off? I think Ronnie’s open belligerence to Cheryl after having shown her willingness to be friendly after Cheryl was repeatedly mean to her because she saw in her a mirror of her own self, had to do with her finding out that info about the Blossoms. They’ve becomes shady suspects again, implicating her dad and Cheryl is part of that scam too.
Archie taking to drink the minute something unpleasant happens – classic Archie side-stepping move. And I think this is what prompted him to invite the gang over with the kegs so he would have the opportunity to drown his sorrows some more. Poor, misguided sap! He drunk dialled his dad too when Val threw her drink at him. He’s just so needy, he doesn’t know how to deal with stuff on his own and that shows his emotional immaturity. I hope he doesn’t end up just using Ronnie as an emotional crutch.
Where is Fred BTW? Did he drive to Chicago? Is that a rented car?  
Hiram Lodge’s letter to Ronnie – omg. He has no scruples – I’m loving it. I want him on the show now!
Bughead at the movies! Juggie being the caring and concerned BF wondering why his GF was so upset at the cafeteria and wanting to know more! Betty deflecting (Alice’s advice is working now)
“I didn’t think you were an American Werewolf kinda girl”
“That’s where you’re wrong. I’m all about the beast within”
That smile! I’m dead!
They left early because Betty pretended to be scared. How adorable!
Juggie is clearly uncomfortable from the get-go. And drunk!Archie hugging him must’ve been such a trigger! “Oh its Kevin”, Yes we know Juggie – we also know you feel like disappearing in a hole under the ground. And you immediately started to look for your wife. He seeks her out the minute he feels discomfort because she’s the only sanity in all the madness! I cry!
The cake! Her singing! That cheek kiss! “I wish it were only the two of us right now” I know that line wasn’t romantic, but it felt like it.
Poor Ronnie, she realized her dad had threatened her and her mom could be complicit too! Jughead came in realizing he was interrupting a moment.
A glimmer of the fight that will happen later can be seen in this argument. I have never seen Juggie this uncomfortable. He went to the baby shower and that wasn’t his scene either, but he was okay and here he isn’t? Clearly because here HE is the centre of attention, there he could just blend into the background. That’s why this party is so not him. His -I’m not wired to be normal- made my heart shatter! 
The gang arrives and everything goes to hell. Archie’s drink-addled brain affected his decision making abilities which weren’t great to start with. How in the hell do you agree to let Chuck and Cheryl into your house Archie?
Ronnie and Betty were never dancing at the party – only Archie was. Is it because Juggie is the narrator and he was hiding out in the garage, which makes him an unreliable narrator? Or were the scenes in the beginning exaggerated to depict the chaos Jughead was talking about? And there was no recreational drug that Cheryl brought in like they said in the synopsis. Wtf?
“Valerie just got here, you think she wants me back” – See, Archie was still entertaining hopes of reconciling with Val and yet he makes out with Ronnie a few hours later. This is why I find it hard to take Archie-Ronnie seriously. And why was Val even there in the first place?  
“As my blood brother” – was that line necessary? He could’ve just said brother? Are more secrets going to come tumbling out?
Archie trying to pin it all on Betty and trying to make it sound like Jughead will have to go along with whatever Betty dictates because he was her boyfriend? Sure you’re not salty Archie? But idk, I didn’t really get jealous Archie vibes in the sense of him wanting Betty, but maybe salty Archie bcos his two BFFs are together and he’s alone?  Maybe subconsciously he was trying to wreck them by creating trouble. Like he knew Jughead would be upset at the party and he was being unfair making it all Betty’s idea, but maybe he wanted them to be in trouble? Idk
“Whether you want one or not”
“She knows what she wants that one”
Yeah I can understand Juggie’s head getting twisted with all that Betty wanting things and getting them, when he doesn’t want them, that makes him even more upset.
Ronnie finds out about FP being Jughead’s dad. “The plot thickens”. They inserted a Joavin kiss - yayy! Kevin who have you been down to Sweetwater River with besides Moose?? I’m dying to know!
Betty confronting Chuck and reminding him of the consequences was great, I did think she went a tad overboard when she tried to drown him but that’s the point isn’t it? Dark Betty would do something twisted and intense, what’s what makes her dark. Betty doesn’t understand it even, it’s something overwhelming that takes over her and makes her do crazy things.
Hiram and FP had business, yes Hiram hired FP to trash the drive-in land so he could buy it and he did. That’s over. Do they still have something going? Hiram being suspected in Jason’s murder affects FP how?
Now the Big fight!
“You and Archie are my friends, everyone else, including Kevin and Ronnie I would’ve actually shunned”. Okay, Ronnie- I understand. I don’t see why Juggie has to even consider her a friend, they’ve literally had no interaction with each other one-on-one. They don’t talk except in a group and this is the first time they had a one-on-one interaction. Yet Juggie would’ve been okay with the four of them at Pop’s. He’s accepted Betty’s friend, Veronica as part of their gang. He’s okay with it.  But Kevin? He’s known Kevin for probably as long as Archie and Betty have known him, but he has obviously not connected with him. It broke my heart that he had no friends outside of Archie and Betty and when Betty was away and he’s had a fight with Archie he had no one! My poor baby!
Everything about this fight was so honest and real. Like, it hurt my heart, but it was so needed. They had to have this talk about their insecurities. Clearly Jughead feels insecure about why Betty is with him, he’s weird and he doesn’t fit in, he’s a loner, an outsider from the wrong side of the tracks, they’re different on a cellular, DNA level (or so he thinks), she’s a cheerleader, a straight A student, the perfect girl next door (I loved Betty’s “I hate that word” here). She’s seen as perfect because that’s what she strives to be and that’s what she shows to the world. Her best friend thought she was perfect. And now her boyfriend thinks she’s perfect too. But she’s just battling her own darkness within while projecting this image of her to the world possibly because of pressure from her mom. Her mom has to have drilled it into her to look a certain way and act a certain way and Betty does follow that, at time she rebels too – the incident with Chuck is one where she did, but Juggie doesn’t know any of it.  This reminded me what Lili said about Betty being attracted to Juggie because his darkness is on the outside and Betty’s isn’t.
He thinks they’re on borrowed time and he doesn’t want to be one of her projects. Betty is immediately contrite, and she wants to reassure him, she reaches for him to cup his face and he pushes her hands away angrily. God Juggie! And then came the lowest blow – oh god Juggie – can’t you see how much this girl adores you, she’s wearing a fucking crown sweater! She’s wearing a part of you! And you think she still has feelings for Archie? But I know Juggie isn’t thinking rationally at that point. He immediately realizes he’s gone too far, but he cannot undo it. And her walking away, means she’s ending it. That’s what he thinks till FP forces him to go back to her. He thinks they have irreconcilable differences and he’s crossed a line and that they can never go back from here. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back for her too, she just walked away because it hurt too much that he would say that. Yet he did. Because it’s something that has always been on the back of his mind. They may have evolved to being a couple after he took initiative and kissed her, but he still has doubts as to why she’s with him. Low self-esteem? Never been in a relationship before? And the fact that he feels inadequate compared to Archie – the popular football and music god who has no trouble finding girls to like him? And the fact that Betty was crushing on Archie was well known to Juggie. Of course he was insecure. Which takes me back to when he first kissed her. At that point I don’t think Jughead thought beyond that moment, he didn’t even plan on it when he first got there. It was just pure instinct. He knew Betty was moving on from Archie, she’d dated Trevor. He was possibly feeling these feelings for a while and he just acted upon them without thinking about the consequences. He didn’t think that far ahead on what Betty would think or feel or do. If she had chastised him, he would’ve accepted that, but she didn’t. She went along and in the next episode she kissed him. Even then he wasn’t sure what he was to her. He didn’t say anything to Archie and only upon him asking did he reveal they’d shared a moment and he didn’t say anything at all to his dad. He wasn’t ready to label it yet because he was unsure. Only when Ronnie officially calls him her boyfriend and she beams approvingly at him does he allow himself to think of him as her boyfriend. Still unsure of how she’d feel at the reveal that his father is a Serpent. I think only when she shows that she’s fully invested in the relationship and wants to be with him and know him does he let her in.  But there must have been a semblance of some doubt still lingering. Else he wouldn’t have exploded the way he did.
Do they really play games like secrets and sins at high school parties?
Anyway, Archie getting exposed for the Grundy thing was cringe-worthy and I felt sorry for him. I was actually applauding Ronnie for calling Cheryl out on her twincest but seeing the real tears Cheryl shed, I’m thinking maybe it was a bit much. Anyway it was all speculation whereas everyone else’s secrets were actual facts.
Juggie now knows that Ronnie’s dad is the one responsible for the drive-in, but he holds no grudge against Ronnie for it. That moment when Jughead’s face was changing from shock to disbelief to realization to anger was so well-played by Cole. That simmering rage in his eyes and then when Chuck turned to address him , he couldn’t take it anymore. That punch he got was well-deserved but Juggie barely managed to make a dent, in fact, he ended up getting it worse than he gave. But it was great to see the anger boiling inside Juggie and all that pent-up rage finally finding an outlet. He still had that rage when he got out after the party broke out and FP accosted him. “What? You want to give me some advice on my right hook?” FP finally showed his worth by being the dad Juggie really needed by giving him some sound advice.
“You have something really good here” and “Man up, she needs you”. Juggie’s face here was yet another revelation, because earlier when he said “It’s not gonna work out, irreconcilable differences”, he really believed he and Betty had broken up. His voice cracked, almost as if he was gonna cry when he said that. What wouldn’t I give to hear that conversation he has with her before they make their way to Pop’s, when he goes inside and finds her!
I do wish we had seen more before the scene at Pop’s, they went from angry and hurt to benign and teasing and that was quite a jarring transition for me. That said, loved the heart to heart they had at Pop’s. Betty’s gentle teasing, and Juggie’s response about him having layers and then sobering up to open out about why he pushed her away for doing something nice for him because he was afraid of being rejected for being himself. I love that although Juggie thinks he’s weird and doesn’t fit in, he doesn’t want to (he’s truly a rebel without a cause) and he’s comfortable in his own skin and who he is, he’s so self-aware this boy and I’m so proud of him. He’s the right person to guide Betty through her shit bcos she does not understand what’s happening to her. She’s overwhelmed and scared by it. And he not only understands, he empathizes. It doesn’t freak him out or scare him, he just accepts it calmly as part of her. Him kissing her hands was a show of that acceptance. And it was just so beautiful! I wanted Alice to witness that moment and realize what a gem of a boyfriend her daughter has! (I think she already knows!) I wish they’d talked about his accusation that she was just slumming it with him till Archie changed his mind. I know her shocked (I’m totally done) reaction should have offered him (and us) assurance that it was ridiculous for him to feel that way, but sometimes talking it out in the open is so much more satisfying. Especially when they talked about literally everything else. I’m hoping that comes soon, I don’t want another scene where Juggie accuses Betty of having feelings for Archie. I hope this is done and will not be addressed again.
Coming to Alice and FP and I know a lot of people ship this couple already, but I kinda want the Coopers to be a strong family unit at least. All others have troubled families that are breaking apart, it would be nice if one family stayed together. Also, I admit it would be weird for me if Betty and Juggie are dating and their parents are too. Which is why I couldn’t get behind Varchie till Fred and Hermione were a thing.  I can’t deny the chemistry bw Madchen and Skeet though. So Alice was a Serpent and I get the sneaky feeling we’re going to see a not so stick-in-the-mud Alice pretty soon! Besides, FP, you didn’t see that brick she hurled at her husband’s office or you wouldn’t be calling her that!
Archie and Ronnie- well, Idk how I feel about them hooking up honestly? They’re sweet and I think Ronnie’d be very good for Archie but is this truly the right time for them to be getting together? Clearly they like each other and are attracted to each other but not a few hours ago Archie was harbouring hope that he’d be getting back together with Val. Also I really need them to talk to Betty about what she feels for Archie because clearly it’s a point of concern for both Juggie and Ronnie. Why else would Ronnie be tiptoeing around Betty after spending the night at Archie’s (and lying to her mom about it!) Usually, if you lie to a parent about where you are, you also ensure that the friend who you’re supposed to be with is also in on the lie to back you up, which Ronnie obviously did not do and took a chance there!
Jughead’s approving of Ronnie with Archie struck me as odd because he’s this clear-thinking rational individual who’s not afraid to call people out on their shit especially Archie. Idk if it registered with him that Archie was looking to get back together with Val, but still thought it was ok for him to be with Ronnie so soon after breaking up with Val. One, it could mean he really likes Ronnie and thinks she’d be good for Archie and 2) It’s his insecurity raising its ugly head again and Archie being with Ronnie means he cannot pursue Betty. But I really wonder how it was so easy for him to agree to keep this a secret from Betty bcos that sucks. After she just told him her darkest secret, he’s once again accepting hiding things from her? I know it’s not his secret to tell, but Betty is their friend and she would be happy for them. Or maybe he thinks Ronnie would tell her? Idk. I hope this is resolved soon in the next episode cos I would hate to have them drag it out.
I just hate the trope where misunderstandings happen because of someone keeping something from the other person and unfortunately it’s the most visited trope in writing. Riverdale has been pleasantly surprising me there and I hope they continue to do that.
Next episode promo:
- FP gets arrested (probably) and the core four think he’s innocent, so work to free him
- Is Betty pissed with Varchie because they’re working with her mom without her, or is it something else? (Varchie being together, singing a duet) I hope to God it’s the former
- What did they lie to Juggie about? (I do not want more Bughead drama, donotwantdonotwantdonotwantdonotwant (sending out cookies and candy and sacrifices to the Riverdale Gods)
-  Luke said all the secrets with the parents will come out in this episode and I’m really excited to know all about their past
-  I think Cheryl threatened Polly because she thinks Polly killed Jason. I think we might see them getting on the same side and Cheryl actually becoming an ally when that revelation (whatever it maybe) comes to light.
- The wig room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Is Hal going to be reconciled with Alice?
- I’m so scared for my poor son Jughead, what makes him break down like that? I’m not ready!
- I think Hiram is going to make an appearance (they did tease that he &/or Gladys will be appearing, on much earlier than we’d expect, although it could happen that Gladys is the one to come, because of FP getting arrested)
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betty cooper, riverdale
bad mind / erin rae
femininity and domination: studies in the phenomenology of oppression / sandra lee bartky
the glass essay / anne carson
trauma & recovery / judith herman
in memory of satan / the mountain goats
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betty cooper, riverdale
abbey / mitski
simone weil / gravity and grace
adam phillips / the art of nonfiction no. 7
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riverdale (2017) / holy feast & holy fast by caroline walker bynum (1988)
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