#bonne d'armagnac

[histoireettralala]

The Maid was born inside the borders of the kingdom since the Meuse river traditionally separates France from the Empire. "If you search for her nation, she is of the kingdom, if you search for her country, she is from Vaucouleurs." Domrémy is divided in two feudal obediences, part of the village being directly in the kingdom, the other, where Jeanne's house is, is attached to the Barrois mouvant. But during Jeanne's childhood the village is mostly torn between the rival ambitions of two political parties. The Valois Duke of Burgundy rules over the countries of here (the duchy) as well as over the countries of there (Flanders) and the strategic road which links them crosses the Meuse Valley. Louis of Orleans, count of Porcien and Valois, advances his pawns in the region in order to cut the States of his adversary in two, and has been trying to unite Lorraine to the kingdom. Metz or Neufchâteau go under a royal safekeeping ensured by Orleans troops.

Jeanne's father is an Armagnac notable. The Maid's childhood is scarred by lootings from Burgundian troops, which really scared her. Jeanne denies any paternal influence in her political formation, which she attributes to her voices who love the king of France. From this moment, she hates the Burgundians. It is in her village that she hears about the imprisonment of the duke of Orleans after Azincourt, about the murder in Montereau (a disaster for which she doesn't believe the dauphin to be responsible), and about the treaty of Troyes (which she doesn't know too well, it doesn't deny the legitimacy of Charles VII). In Domrémy, everybody is Armagnac, except for Gérardin d'Epinal, whose head she would have gladly cut off if they hadn't been companions. The little boys of the village often go together to confront the children of Maxey, in Burgundian land, but little girls don't go.

Her mission starts during the Lent of 1429 at the moment when Orleans, besieged for eight months by the English, risks assault or capitulation. As the actual capital and symbol of the party, Orleans is the other body of Duke Charles, prisoner in England. Can it be fathomed that the English could hold both the body and the city ? The capture of Orleans would be the end of the party, because the duke would never be able to pay the ransom. In a way, the fall of Orleans would have greater consequences for the Duke's partisans than for the kingdom. Jeanne's mission is made of two to four parts. The first is the liberation of Orleans (proving she is sent by God), the third is the liberation of Duke Charles. In other words, Jeanne's mission is equally shared between the king (two duties: the Sacre and the expulsion of the English) and the duke. Charles is the "good Duke of Orleans", a title that isn't universally acclaimed at the time […] She envisions, on various occasions, to exchange him against English lords, to have him brought back by miracle, even to wage war in England to recover him. She has good will for him and for his interests.

A medieval party is first based on the clients of a prince whom they want to bring to power in fortunate times, or else defend. Jeanne's relationships with the prince's biological family are numerous. Dunois, Charles of Orleans' bastard half-brother, is the king's lieutenant in the Loire Valley. Some chroniclers, especially in Burgundy, think Baudricourt sent Jeanne to Dunois in order to save the city. The Maid likes even more the handsome Duke of Alençon, Charles's son-in-law. She goes to Saumur to visit his young wife Jeanne (daughter of the former queen of England who was a daughter of Charles VI) and promises her the safe return of her husband. She will indeed save his life during the campaign. Finally, she enters the cities of the apanage at their side. Duke Charles had married a second time with Bonne of Armagnac in 1410. Jeanne frequented the count of Armagnac and Thibault of Armagnac lord of Termes, who was a witness of the second trial in 1456. Also, Bonne Visconti, Charles's cousin, wrote to "the devout Jeanne sent by the King of Heaven" in order to recover her Milanese lordship.

(Dunois)

Blood and alliance structure the party. But spiritual parentage also play a part. Jeanne has excellent relations with the Laval family, whose grandmother is the widow of Du Guesclin, who was godfather of Louis of Orleans. She gives her a gold ring, a link between the first saviour of the kingdom and the second one. She herself is the godmother, in the Orleans lands of Château-Thierry, of children of loyal subjects (of the king or of the duke ?) whom she names Charles. It is the name of the duke as well as that of the king.

Colette Beaune- Jeanne d'Arc

[themummersfolly]

D'Albret Lives AU

D'Albret is discovered, alive but wounded, by his servant.

They spend several weeks in hiding because 1) there are English soldiers EVERYWHERE, 2) D'Albret is sick as fuck from fighting wound infections.

Meanwhile Henry V takes the prisoners, including Charles D'Orleans, back to England, and Burgundy starts planting rumors that D'Albret committed treason and orchestrated the defeat.

D'Albret recovers enough to realize what's happening and immediately sets out for Rouen/Paris. As he is not remotely healed enough, he falls sick by the time they reach the city and almost dies again.

Since he lost his armor, his signet ring, and pretty much everything he had with him in the battle, people aren't sure it really is him. Montjoy recognizes him early on and basically acts as his lifeline.

Of course the king recognizes him, but it's not exactly a happy reunion for the cousins. Charles VI now thinks D'Albret betrayed him, and D'Albret has to clear his name.

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There's more but this is what I've got so far. At some point he and Bonne will team up to rescue Charles. Also there may be a duel with Burgundy.

[princess-of-france]

Okay first off: Angel Coulby would make an amazing Bonne, wouldn't she? And also, I've never really thought of it but what about an AU where our Charles becomes king instead of his cousin? Charles was a legitimate heir as Prince of Blood. Bonne would be a great queen.

I’m sorry for my delayed response! Things have been wild at le Palais de Martin lately. Hope you’re safe and well, my love. xx

Angel Coulby was born to play Bonne, I think. She would endow our girl with so much wisdom and grace. Her love story with Charles would absolutely shimmer. ♥ And tbh I think Angel should play all the medieval women. Like, her Margaret of Anjou would slay. Or her as Kate Percy?? Yes, please.

You know what, I’m fully down for Bonne and Charles assuming the throne of France and leaving Henry and Cate to head up England. That’s a monarchial situation that might actually work. None of this Henry-imprisoning-Charles-for-decades-on-end nonsense. Just Cate and Charles being Kickass Cousins across the Channel and Bonne ushering France into a flipping golden age of art, music, and emotional competency. 

[charlesdorkoforleans]

From the Très Riches Heures du Duc de Berry, the page for April. The couple performing the engagement ceremony is, according to everything I've seen, Charles d'Orléans and Bonne d'Armagnac, though here they look much older than they were historically. And those are some fly hats.

[skeleton-richard]

Various things from the author appendix of Fox and Arn's edition of BnF Ms fr 25458 that give me feels. Mainly Charles and Marie adopting their nephew Pierre (who would later marry Anne de Beaujeu, Regent to her little brother Charles VIII); a nephew of Marshal Boucicaut possibly appearing; Marie of Cleves in general; and that Charles knew the Constable's grandson, whose mom was at one point Charles's sister-in-law, as she was Bonne d'Armagnac's sister!

@themummersfolly the Boucicaut and d'Albret connections are especially for you.

[malvoliowithin]

Something we haven't considered yet: Bonne d'Armagnac being very small.

Charles being able to pick her up and carry her around with ease. Bonne having to reach up to kiss him, or find something to stand on. Joan outgrowing Bonne at a fairly young age because she takes after her dad when it comes to height, to a point. Bonne joking when Charles leaves that they don’t have to say goodbye to each other; he could easily just pack her up and carry her around in a suitcase, she’ll fit. 

In short; I accept

[labonnetable]

*** Gratinée au roquefort (soupe aux oignons) *** Une soupe à l'oignon est toujours agréable... Une gratinée au roquefort surprendra tout le monde à table. Ingrédients pour 4 personnes : 250 gr d'oignons 125 gr de Roquefort 50 gr de gruyère rapé tranches de pain grillées 5 cl d'armagnac ou de cognac Sel, poivre Graisse d'oie ou de canard ou saindoux Préparation de…

[princess-of-france]

@skeleton-richard Bonne and Charles, please?

[charlesdorkoforleans]

This blog loves and appreciates Bonne d'Armagnac

Reblog if you also love and appreciate Bonne d'Armagnac.

[skeleton-richard]

From now on, John the Fearless and Philip the Good are now known as John the Raging Arsehole and Philip the Dickhead. But seriously, the more I read about France at the turn of the 15th century, the more I'm like "god both Burgundy and the Armagnacs were a pack of arsewipes".

Welcome to the "We Hate Burgundy" Club!

And Armagnac is no better. The one exception being Bonne d'Armagnac, who is perfect.

[skeleton-richard]

In A Dark Wood Wandering Characters as Dril Tweets

Charles: Charles: i help every body, im not racist, i keep myself nice, and when i ask for a single re-tweet in return i am told to fuck off, fuck myself, etc

Louis: really hoping that someday my wife will surprise me by sending me a picture of my own dick

Valentine: "RESULT You are the Serpant. YOu dislike loud places and people are constantly putting drama in your life. But you're strong." This is true

Philippe: its fucked up how there are like 1000 christmas songs but only 1 song aboutr the boys being back in town

Jehan: my favorite tv show characters are "The good guys". My least favorite characters are "The villains"

Dunois: Sword's. The only blade known to man

Marguerite: ive started bowing my head and saying grace before reading each post on here... "thank you." "thank you for the posts." that sort of thing,

Isabelle d’Valois: i just looked up the stats and the number of meaningful relationships ive formed is less than the number of public restrooms ive Screamed in

Jeanne d'Orleans: me: nobody has to get owned today. please, put down the keyboard and step back. 9 year old: Fuck oyu.

Charles VI: i have never condoned "rumpus"

Isabeau of Bavaria: I WILL REGRESS INTO PRIMAL FORM AND SHUN MY LOVED ONES IN ORDER TO POWER UP MY CONTENT !! I WILL GET RE-BLOGS AT ANY COST !! AT ANY COST !!

John the Fearless: I put years of hard work into getting my torture degree at torture college & now everyones like “oh tortures bad” , “its ineffective” fuck off

Joan of Arc: "This Whole Thing Smacks Of Gender," i holler as i overturn my uncle's barbeque grill and turn the 4th of July into the 4th of Shit

Duke of Berry: the first step to becoming a Millionaire is to acquire one hundred dollars

Charles VII: turning my headlights off when driving at night,.. so that my Rivals cannot see me

Louis XI: ohhh anOTHER solar eclipse, you say ?? gee i cant wait.. *does the Jerk Off motion until the sun supernovas itself out of shame*

Bernard VII d'Armagnac: spend a lot of time thinking about how sometimes even war criminals can be heroes sometimes... Dont like it? Click the unfollow buttobn

Bonne d'Armagnac: i regret being tasked the emotional burden of maintaining the final bastion of morality and NIce manners in this endless ocean of human SHIT

Philip the Good: my opinion on politics: my opinion on politics is that politidcs is extremely good, but sometimes it is bad

Isabelle of Portugal: Politic's is back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (wolf Howl)

Marie d'Cleves: CHILD Papa.. tell me once more about WIFE's DUTY PAPA it is WIFE's DUTY to protect her husband from villains, always

[princess-of-france]

You tagged a post as Gentle Herald Project and Bonne-- who is she? Bonne d'Armagnac?

Yes! Bonne d’Armagnac is a secondary character in GH. She represents the countless women throughout medieval European history who were left behind to pray/get on with things at home while the men were off to battle. She has one of my favorite monologues in the play. There are 5 main female characters in GH: Catherine, Queen Isabel, Alice, Bonne, and Margot. Each of them is meant to illuminate a different role for women at French court in the early 15th century: the marriageable daughter, the queen, the serving-woman, the aristocratic wife, and the rebel. Needless to say, all five of them shatter their stereotypes. At least, they’re supposed to!

[skeleton-richard]

Tagged by @juliacaesaris

History Five on Fives

Top historical figures:

- Charles d'Orléans

- Alfred the Great

- Charlemagne

- Joan of Arc

- David Farragut

Top historical OTPS:

- Marcus Junius Brutus/Porcia Catonis

- Richard II/Anne of Bohemia

- Henry V/Catherine de Valois (I know I shouldn't. But.)

- Henry II/Eleanor of Aquitaine

- Charles d'Orléans/Bonne d'Armagnac

Top historical nonfiction:

- Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil by John Berendt

- The Civil War, a Narrative by Shelby Foote

- Crécy by William Ellis

- The American Pageant (textbook. Can you tell I'm running out of ideas)

- Shakespeare's Kings by John Julian Norwich

Top historical films/shows

- Horrible Histories

- Ken Burns' Vietnam War

- Ken Burns' Civil War

- All the President's Men

- The Lion In Winter

Top historical fiction:

- IN A DARK WOOD WANDERING

- A Bloody Field by Shrewsbury

- The Book Thief

- Henry IV (okay yes I know it's a play)

- The Ides of March

I tag @yehudmeme @arundels @crispin-cas9 @the-golden-ghost @i-cannot-live-without-coffee and whoever else wants to do this.

[skeleton-richard]

At long last... My Review of Charles Duke of Orleans: A Literary Biography by Norma Lorre Goodrich

I finally finished this travesty and wrote my review.

This book is an exercise in why research and credibility are important. It is also an example of how not to write, but I'll get to that in a moment. My major complaint is the inaccuracy. I caught multiple mistakes-- blatant, how-do-you-get-something-like-that-wrong mistakes. The first was an inexplicable claim that Charles' bastard brother Jean, usually called Dunois (or the Bastard of Orleans in Shakespeare's Henry VI) was baptized "Ferdinand" but still called Jean. I can't find anything to back this up. At one point (and only once) Goodrich says that Charles d'Albret, High Constable of France at the time of Agincourt was the brother of Joan of Navarre, who was the second wife of Henry IV. This is definitely wrong, as was the claim that Henry Beaufort was Henry V's half-brother. This may be an honest mistake, since Beaufort (his uncle) was the half-brother of Henry IV. I'll give the author the benefit of the doubt on that one but still, stuff like that should be caught before it goes to print. Another major mistake later on was the birth order of Charles' children being switched. Of his children with Marie of Cleves, Louis (the future Louis XII) was born between Marie and Anne, with Anne the youngest. Somehow, <i>within the narrative</i> Goodrich manages to confuse that.

I focus on this because accuracy is obviously of the utmost importance when writing about history. I teach how to use historical sources and how to cite things properly and this bugs me something major. While Goodrich does have a bibliography, there are never any notes of any kind. The closest to acknowledging sources is mentioning medieval chroniclers in text. Because there are no citations and because I found multiple glaring errors I was disinclined to trust it. That's why credibility is so important-- make mistakes like this and there is no reason for a reader to trust it.

There's another major issue with this book, which may have made me more angry than the inaccuracy. It's the most purple prose I have ever read in my life. It spends far too long describing useless information and digresses incessantly. I read a particularly bad page to a friend, who shouted "Get on with it!" halfway through. It has an annoying fixation on Joan of Arc. I love Joan quite a lot but there's no reason to mention her repeatedly (also it is not a strange coincidence that Charles' first child, Joan, was named the same as Joan of Arc because 1. Joan of Arc wasn't from Orleans even though she was called the Maid of Orleans and 2. Joan was a common name. Of course there will be kids named Joan. Okay, rant over).

More uncomfortable is a fixation with the relationship between Charles and Isabelle, his first wife. That relationship is a bit squicky by modern standards, as not only were they first cousins, but she was four years older than him. This, to Goodrich, is the perfect relationship and Isabelle was the great love of his life. She concludes that Charles' most beautiful poetry is about Isabelle. This touches on (but comes to a possibly faulty conclusion) a major part of studying Charles' poetry, the identity of the recipient/addressee. He may have been writing about the real ladies in his life, and perhaps he was addressing an allegorical personification of France. It can only be speculation at best. Goodrich also, for some reason, does not like Bonne d'Armagnac.

Dr. Mary-Jo Arn said it best on her site about Charles: "Norma Lorre Goodrich doesn’t exactly say whether she thinks she is writing fiction or fact, but Charles Duke of Orleans: A Literary Biography (1963) contains more of the former than the latter."

Burn.

So in short, this is a disappointing book all around. The writing is annoying, there are multiple wildly incorrect statements, and it has a very uncomfortable fixation with Isabelle, which never goes away. And I haven't even discussed the portrayal of Louis, Charles' father, which is probably a bit too positive.

At any rate, read In a Dark Wood Wandering by Hella Haasse rather than this. Somehow a fiction book was more accurate than this biography.

[skeleton-richard]

Oh dear God help me I am editing the Wikipedia articles for Bonne d'Armagnac and In a Dark Wood Wandering.

[skeleton-richard]

@the-golden-ghost he's in early exile now. Remember Goodrich made that really gross comment about who could replace Isabelle in Charles's bed? Bonne's been mentioned a few more times, but, like, she doesn't mention him saying goodbye to her before Agincourt. This is a slap in the face of all who love and appreciate Bonne d'Armagnac. @marcusbrutus I want to finish it, it's just dragging on. It's really purple prose. I was reading a certain section to @caelidra, who shouted "GET ON WITH IT!" halfway through. This will be fun to review though.