#but fans want to see riize as seven

[bandzboy]

okay yes sm has released a statement about what has been going with riize and say they are gonna take action against people that have been invading their privacy (idk how much of this is true but anyways) my question is… why didn’t they do this with seunghan? they just put him on hiatus and then made him apologize they did nothing to protect him making it seem like he did something wrong i genuinely go crazy bc of this fucking company

[killthcromeo]

kill the romeo ( hangul: 로미오를 죽여라; stylized as KTR ) is a four membered group under starship entertainment. the lineup includes hayes, kaede, yemi, and yize. they made their debut on march 19, 2018, with the korean single “sweet juice.”

starship entertainment took an unconventional approach with kill the romeo, aiming to draw international attention to the company. their comeback strategy involves a unique system: for each korean release, there's a corresponding english comeback within the same year, and sometimes an additional release in another language. this approach ensures that fans of KTR worldwide feel seen.

the group also stands out because every member was born in 2002. fans, also known as arrows, and netizens in general think this shared birth year was meant to ensure better chemistry and a youthful vibe at their debut since they were all around 16.

quick facts

official fandom name: arrows.

fandom name explanation: cupid uses an arrow to make people fall in love, love is what caused the demise of romeo.

official fandom colors: blood red and pitch black.

○　៹ ★　 jo haseung ( hangul: 조하승; born march 23rd, 2002 in south gyeongsang, south korea ), best known by stage name HAYES ( 헤이즈 ), is the face of the group, lead vocalist, and sub rapper of kill the romeo. growing up in a home where his dad is no where to be found and his mother might as well have been out with him, haseung has more trouble trusting people than just casting judgement. he’s rebellious, smart, and alluring. he’s known to back-talk to authority figures and push away people who try to help him. But, ultimately, haseung does want people to like him; he just doesn’t know how to let them in. if you can get past haseung’s gruff exterior, maybe you can see the funny, quick-witted, and kind hearted guy underneath all the walls.

stage name:  hayes (헤이즈).

given name:  jo haseung (조하승).

other name:  hayes jo.

nicknames:  hayhay, white swan, smart alec.

age:  twenty two years old.

date of birth:  march 23rd, 2002.

zodiac sign:  aries.

chinese zodiac:  horse.

nationality:  american.

ethnicity:  south korean.

birth place:  south gyeongsang, south korea.

hometown:  san diego, california.

height:  176 cm.

blood type:  type a.

face claim:  park wonbin (riize).

languages:  korean (mother tongue).  english (fluent).

occupation:  idol. mc.

years active:  2018 - present.

years trained:  five years.

company:  starship entertainment (2013 - present).

group:  kill the romeo.

debut date:  march 19th, 2018.

representative emoji:  🦢.

✦  hayes debuted solo on december 30th, 2019 with his single nervous.

✦  he used to hate anything with avocado on it and refused to eat it until one day he just thought he was being dramatic and tried it again, now loves it.

✦  he always takes very very cold showers, even in the winter.

✦  he has a phobia of birds after one bit his neck while he was at recess when he was seven. still has the scar.

✦  for a very long time after debut (and still with newer fans) it was hard for people to tell him and yize apart. even their staff got them mixed up in the beginning and they wore name tags.

✦  he’s not good at lying, people can almost always tell when he’s lying because it’s obvious.

✦  he has a fear of heights, and usually when the group goes to amusement parks he avoids the rides like the plague and just tries the food. 

○　៹ ★　 nonaka kaede ( kanji: 野中楓; born may 1st, 2002 in tokyo, japan ), best known by stage name KAEDE ( 카에데 ), is the leader dancer, main vocalist, and leader of kill the romeo. kaede is a fashionable, free-spirited individualist. she copes with the trauma of her childhood by living a life free of responsibility, if she doesn’t think about it it never happened. she uses humor as a defense mechanism and isn’t afraid to say whatever pops into her head, even if in appropriate at the tine. she has a sensitive side too, however. and though her sarcastic manner and unseriousness means people aren’t inclined to take her seriously, she actually knows a lot about how the world works and how people think.

stage name:  kaede (카에데).

given name:  nonaka kaede (野中楓).

other name:  n/a.

nicknames:  kae, dumber (to yize’s dumb), thing 1.

age:  twenty two years old.

date of birth:  may 1st, 2002.

zodiac sign:  taurus.

chinese zodiac:  horse.

nationality:  japanese.

ethnicity:  japanese.

birth place:  tokyo, japan.

hometown:  tokyo, japan.

height:  157 cm.

blood type:  type o.

face claim:  kondō chisa (xg).

languages:  japanese (mother tongue).  english (fluent). korean (fluent).

occupation:  idol.

years active:  2018 - present.

years trained:  two years.

company:  starship entertainment (2016 - present).

group:  kill the romeo.

debut date:  march 19th, 2018.

representative emoji:  🐥.

✦  kaede debuted solo on march 30th, 2020 with her single into you.

✦  the opposite of yemi, kaede is only allowed to have headpiece mics because she has accidentally thrown multiple handheld ones.

✦  when she runs out of room to carry things with his hands he uses his mouth/teeth, which triggers people (yemi) so badly.

✦  was almost considered to be leader but fell to the ground sobbing, begging them not to choose her.

✦  she was bad at live singing during their debut not because she couldn’t sing, but because she would get so overwhelming excited to be performing that her voice would get shaky.

✦  she is banned from the kitchen and using several utensils like knives and metal forks because of how clumsy she is.

✦  despite being at starship for 8 years, she gets lost still and needs her members to help her find where she is. she is the reason every member has each others’ location.

✦  if she had to choose which member’s solo music she enjoys listening to the most, she’d say yize.

✦  she’s not very coordinated at all, she’s a baby deer in a human body.

✦  kaede is vegatarian, because she doesn’t like the texture of most meat products.

○　៹ ★　 adeyemi caspari ( born january 15th, 2002 in adelaide, australia ), best known by stage name YEMI ( 예미 ), is the leader dancer, lead rapper, and visual of kill the romeo. adeyemi is nothing else if not seen by the men in her life. after her father left her and her mother alone, she unfortunately craves any type of attention she can get. she tries so hard to win over men in her life that she often loses sight of who she is. she’s sweet, insecure, and emotional. adeyemi wears her heart on her sleeve, and that makes her vulnerable to a lot of heartbreak. she wants someone to love her for her and not the persona she has put on, but she’s not sure who she is either.

stage name:  yemi (예미).

given name:  adeyemi caspari.

nicknames:  bambi, yemi, ade

age:  twenty two years old.

date of birth:  january 15th, 2002.

zodiac sign:  capricorn.

chinese zodiac:  horse.

nationality:  australian.

ethnicity:  ghanian-swiss.

birth place:  adelaide, australia.

hometown:  adelaide, australia.

height:  166 cm.

blood type:  type b.

face claim:  meret manon (katseye).

languages:  english (mother tongue).  swiss-german (fluent). french (fluent). korean (mostly fluent).

occupation:  idol. actress.

years active:  2018 - present.

years trained:  three years.

company:  starship entertainment (2015 - present).

group:  kill the romeo.

debut date:  march 19th, 2018.

representative emoji:  🦌.

✦  yemi debuted solo on july 30th, 2020 with her single chihiro.

✦  yemi’s not allowed to have headpiece mics because she has a habit of singing the other member’s parts and doesn’t know how to stop.

✦  yemi doesn’t move her arms when she walks or runs, they just stay still at her sides.

✦  she hates talking on the phone, every call she gets goes straight to voicemail. even the ceo has to text her if they want a response.

✦  she either remembers your name right off the bat or it takes her weeks of interactions to be able to remember it, no in between. but she’s really great when it comes to faces.

✦ she sniffs everything before using it, like even random things like her mic.

✦  she has an anxious tic of blinking really rapidly, fans pick up on it a lot during interviews.

○　៹ ★　 ruan yize ( hanzi: 阮宜澤; born october 1st, 2002 in taipei, taiwan ), best known by stage name YIZE ( 이제 ), is the main dancer, main rapper, lead vocalist, and center of kill the romeo. growing up constantly in second place to his older brother, yize naturally developed a huge inferiority complex and a short fuse. never allowed to express his emotions properly, he often bottles up his emotions until he genuinely cannot hold them anymore and tends to explode, music has been helping it really has, but he’s still angry. even as an adult, yize constantly feels the need to prove himself. though he doesn’t like to show it, he also has a softer, more sensitive side too. he’s deeply loyal to those he cares about and absolutely fearless when it comes to helping people (if he’s in the mood).

stage name:  yize (이제).

given name:  ruan yize (阮宜澤).

nicknames:  thing 2, dumb (to kaede’s dumber), yi

age:  twenty one years old.

date of birth:  october 1st, 2002.

zodiac sign:  libra.

chinese zodiac:  horse.

nationality:  taiwanese.

ethnicity:  taiwanese.

birth place:  taipei, taiwan.

hometown:  taipei, taiwan.

height:  178 cm.

blood type:  type ab.

face claim:  wang yihsiang (&team).

languages:  mandarin (mother tongue).  english (fluent). korean (mostly fluent).

occupation:  idol. actor.

years active:  2018 - present.

years trained:  two years.

company:  starship entertainment (2016 - present).

group:  kill the romeo.

debut date:  march 19th, 2018.

representative emoji:  🦊.

✦  yize debuted solo on october 30th, 2020 with his single cruel.

✦  yize clenches his fists before doing stuff because it helps him feel stronger and more in control. so in a lot of fancams you can see his fists balled together before the music starts.

✦  when excited, he hiccups and slightly trembles. he’s not sure why he just does.

✦  for a very long time after debut (and still with newer fans) it was hard for people to tell him and hayes apart. even their staff got them mixed up in the beginning and they wore name tags.

✦  yize was scouted through his sound cloud account, to which he already had several songs.

✦  yize carries a chococat figure he got in one of those sanrio blind boxes in his pocket at all times. he’s stressed whenever he forgets it at the dorm.

✦  he is not a morning person. he needs at least an hour before being able to function beyond just nodding and grumbling.

[nori-the-cat]

thanks for answering! the boycott consists in not buying merch and albums, not streaming and not interacting with riize's contents until sm releases a statement about 🫧, from what I understood... the fandom is also quite parted, since there are ot7 briize who boycott, ot7 briize who don't want to boycott (fearing that riize as a whole, instead of sm, would have a loss) and ot6 briize who don't want/care about 🫧's return.

No worries girly!

So, just to be clear. You're asking if the boycott is effective and whether SM knows about them? 🤔

Before you read my tarot readings or any of you RIIZE fans read this. Please please please, take tarot readings with a grain of salt!

Does SM Entertainment know about the boycott? And are they aware of them? Card(s): AoP and 7oP rx

Yes, the company (SM Entertainment) is indeed aware of the boycott. They're most likely aware of the discontent of fans but are either unwilling or unable to take the necessary steps to resolve the underlying issues, leading to a stagnation of the situation (Seunghan's situation).

In my opinion, this is what is happening currently. They (SM) know that the boycott do impact the group's finances (sales), but they think their strategy is going to calm the fans. They (SM) believe everything will be fine.

Meanwhile, the Seven of Pentacles reversed is evident in their growing frustration. They have invested time and resources in promotions and damage control, but the results are disappointing. The executives are impatient, expecting quick fixes, but the fans' discontent continues to grow.

So, yes, they know and they're trying their best to cover up their losses and control the boycott.

Does SM Entertainment know about the big projects that fans are planning. Are they monitoring fans' activities online?

Card(s): wheel of fortune, the hermit rx, 5oS rx, and knight of pentacles rx

Yes, they do. SM is watching. They're watching yall every move.

SM Entertainment is aware of the big projects fans are planning and is monitoring fans' activities online

Is the boycott working/effective? Card(s): the hermit, five of pentacles, and page of wands all in a reversed position.

Personally, looking at these cards alone. I don't think so. *scratching my head*

But, the boycott is affecting RIIZE's sales (5 of pentacles rx). It's affecting SM's finances (sales) too. The pentacles cards is really strong here. There is the 5 of pentacles card here, and ace of pentacles and 7 of pentacles in the previous question.

Do you guys have a project or something? Cuz why do I see a project failing? There is something that the fans are working on and is not working out (page of wands). I also see divided opinions and support on something. (No idea what this something is. But I see online bickering? Why are u guys bickering?) Basically, different people support different things and they have their own opinions and beliefs.

Anyway, what I get is that RIIZE fans are for sure frustrated right now, especially those who are the OT7 supporters.

Okay so, the way I see it is that. You guys are the page of wands. Whatever you guys are working on is not working in your favour. Meanwhile, SM is the pentacles card and in this reading, they are the five of pentacles. Right now, they might be implementing measures to counteract the financial losses or improve their image.

In my opinion, the boycott had an impact initially, but SM Entertainment is beginning to find ways to mitigate the damage.

Do the RIIZE members know about the boycott, OT7 support, and what do they think about them? Card(s): the magician, king of wands rx, page of wands rx, the tower, three of wands, and the emperor rx

I pulled 6 cards to see what the remaining 6 members think.

So, there's a 3 for 3 here. It's not 3 for and 3 against. But 3 members have different opinions while the 3 have their own opinions.

God, what are these reversed cards?

The RIIZE boys want to support the fans and the boycott but they're scared of SM. So, what I get is that they want to support the fans but are uncertain how to do so effectively due to restrictions from the management. Communication among the members might be strained, leading to confusion and lack of direction.

They might be discussing ways to influence the situation positively, perhaps considering reaching out to fans directly or using social media to communicate their thoughts.

I think the RIIZE boys are secretly supporting themselves as 7 (king of wands, the tower, and three of wands). Whether it's 6 or 7, they are thinking strategically about how to navigate this crisis and are planning for a future where they can rebuild their relationship with fans and grow from this experience.

However, the members might feel unsupported by the company's management and desire more effective and transparent leadership. They could be considering ways to advocate for themselves and their fans within the company.

Why is SM Entertainment still making RIIZE perform as 6? Instead of 7.

Card(s): 10oW and 4oW rx

I'm not defending SM here. But SM is doing this for the good of others too. They feel that reintroducing Seunghan at this time would disrupt the group's current dynamics or that the situation is not yet stable enough to make such a change.

The Four of Wands reversed indicates that the company (SM) recognises the instability within the group. They understand that bringing Seunghan back now or without a proper plan could disrupt the fragile balance they are trying to maintain. The performances as six members might be an attempt to keep the group moving forward while they work on resolving the underlying issues.

For the members of RIIZE, the Ten of Wands upright signifies the additional pressure they are under. They are working hard to perform and maintain their image, but they feel the weight of the missing member and the expectations placed upon them. The Four of Wands reversed reflects their internal struggle with the lack of harmony and stability. Despite their efforts, the group feels incomplete, and their success is overshadowed by the ongoing controversy.

It's hard for everybody, girly.

Does Seunghan know about the boycott?

Card(s): ten of swords and temperance

Yes, he knows about the boycott. He probably has seen it online or heard it from someone. He's contemplating a lot right now.

Note: In my opinion, you guys have to wait until SM release a statement about Seunghan.

[risathefairyofshampoo]

MTL in Riize to date an idol? Like you did for Enhypen???

MTL in Riize to date an idol

(April 2nd, 2024)

1. Sungchan

Nine of Wands R, Eight of Pentacles, The Hanged Man R, Page of Swords R

I do think that he has already thought about it and that he likes the idea. However, he knows it's risky. He wouldn't date an idol like that. Getting to know each other beforehand would be required! He has to know if they would mean it and if it's worth it.

1. Shotaro

Eight of Wands R, Ace of Pentacles R, Five of Wands, The Hanged Man, Strength R, Seven of Cups

Well, I do see him being down to date idols if he's really interested, but at the same time, I don't. He's the type to do it, but only if he's really interested.... Otherwise, I don't see him make a move. He's kinda scared that it will harm his image, and that's why he would lean more to a no!

2. Wonbin

Knight of Cups, Seven of Pentacles R, Ten of Pentacles R

Yes, he would, but his 'not established' career is holding him back. So it sounds more like a no~

2. Eunseok

Queen of Swords, Two of Wands R, King of Cups, Death, Nine of Wands

Like Wonbin. He would. Definitely! However, he knows about the consequences and is super scared... Especially because it's the beginning of his career. So a no, it is!

3. Seunghan

Knight of Wands, Six of Pentacles, Judgement R, Eight of Wands, Seven of Pentacles, Ace of Cups R, Eight of Cups

Oh, Seunghan... Yes, he would, but I'm feeling so much regret. He wants to 'please' his fans in a way, and the way they judged him and made his life feel like hell keeps him away from dating. So a no!

4. Anton

King of Wands R, The Chariot, King of Cups R

As of now, no! He is trying to focus more on his career and success as an idol!

5. Sohee

King of Pentacles R, Five of Cups R, Two of Cups R, King of Wands

No. He witnessed other idols relationships, and it didn't end well. Also, he is looking for something more. Something more pleasing... I see. All these schedules and events they may attend together, it's hard to keep that to himself!

[nori-the-cat]

Hong Seunghan's Energy Check

Remember to take this tarot reading with a grain of salt! Tarot reading is a tool and does not illustrate Seunghan's life. Energy can change because situations do change. So, this is not a fixed illustration of Seunghan's life, but a glimpse of it.

I did this reading today. The date is Sunday, June 2, 2024.

How is Seunghan feeling right now?

Card(s): Ace of Cups

The cup card in a tarot reading is often associated with the water sign elements: Pisces, Cancer, and Scorpio. I also consider the cup card in a tarot reading as fulfilling our cups.

Note: I forgot to add he’s particularly feeling happy and excited about something. But I don’t know what it is. (I’m not bothered to check)

Since the position of the Ace of Cups was in the upright position, I am assuming Seunghan is feeling particularly positive right now. He might be trying to get himself out of feeling stuck and going towards something that fulfils him. He might also be going through a spiritual or emotional awakening. The card could also be about romance, but I don't see romance in this tarot reading. Hence, I took another card.

Is this also (Ace of Cups) about romance?

Card(s): three of swords

The 3oS to me is about heartbreak, betrayal, drama, conflict, grief and suffering. So, no. It's not about romance.

I guess that's enough to answer whether the Ace of Cups indicates romance or not. It's not about romance.

So let's refrain ourself from going further into this energy as I would not want to cause any rumours.

Continue...

Though I did sense this card also illustrates his love life, it may not be about romance but he might be meeting new people who inspire him and making new connections (Ace of Cups). He's also going through a phase of learning to love and accept himself. But, he might be yearning for that feeling of love and acceptance from his fans.

In terms of his work or career, Seunghan might be enjoying his time at his "workplace". I'm also guessing something is heading or coming to him soon. I'm not sure what it is. (Honestly, I'm too lazy to look into it.)

Maybe he's working with a new set of team? A staff maybe? Producers? Dancers? People that inspires him, I guess? (Again, I'm not bothered to look into it.)

Is Seunghan still in SM Entertainment?

Card(s): Seven of pentacles rx

The 7oP was in a reversed position. So, yes, he's still in SM Entertainment.

I'm assuming he's still in SM Entertainment because of his contract or something and so far I'm not getting any "leaving the company" energy from this card. However, a further analysis of his energy is needed and I do need to pull more cards. But I didn't. I want to keep this reading simple. (I'm too lazy to look into it.)

Is he still a part of RIIZE?

Card(s): Eight of pentacles and the hierophant both was in reversed

Both cards are telling yes he is still a part of RIIZE.

Continue...

Now, the Ace of Cups. Seunghan's job is in the creative (entertainment industry). If he's been afraid of taking on more responsibilities, now is the right moment to push aside his past and fears. So, right now he could be finding joy in his work and job as an idol even if it means it's happening behind the scenes.

Overall, he's finding joy in the mundane. He's learning to love himself, and his work, finding creativity, and perhaps, yearning for love and support from his fans?

That's all for me. This is supposed to be a short reading anyway.