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#circumstance despite often being the one to dig his own grave. but i'm really here to talk about cyril's expressions of anger.
scare-ard--sleigh · 2 years
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no children still makes me think of hojo & lu nine million years later but um it's kinda uhhhhhhh idk how to say this, uh, cyril-coded 😬🫥🫣
#late night archerblogging#cyrling divorce era [laughs uncomfortably]#idk it was on a j*seph chr*stensen playlist [do not look at me] and it's mmmmmmm#i don't see that; i think the interpretation is valid and i 100% see where it's coming from but i think i see joe differently#he's more of a k*ndall to me in terms of his weakness. i see him thinking he's a lot weaker than he really is; i see him blaming#circumstance despite often being the one to dig his own grave. but i'm really here to talk about cyril's expressions of anger.#which are canonically bombastic in the way that this song is.#(interesting aside that cyril's bombastic expressions of anger are different than archer's. cyril seems more likely to twist the knife.)#(i love him v v much but he seems like the type of person who gets angry bc they're hurt so they hurt you back even more so they Win)#(i used to be like that; it's unkind but it's a defense mechanism and there's a good chance i'm projecting so do with that what you will)#and it's like..........he definitely means it but you can also kinda tell that he doesn't?#i guess there's a similarity between him and ken and joe in that he'll corner himself and go 'there's no way out!!!!'#maybe he's just quicker to blame other people for it. (vs 'this is how it has to be' or 'this is god's doing')#mm this is interesting i have kind of a hard time parsing cyril's ugly side but it's definitely there#anyway i've listened to this song six times in a row trying to write this out and i'm done so mwah
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finisnihil · 7 months
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Heyo ATLA fan over here I keep seeing people praise the live action remake for being darker than the original and citing that the original cant be darker because it's animated and. I have thoughts on this.
The original ATLA couldn't get super gore type dark because of its RATING not its MEDIUM, it was being produced by a kid's channel. Animated media CAN be dark and NO i'm not talking about "adult cartoons". Look at shows like Blue Eye Samurai. Any DC animated movie. Animation is constantly associated with being childish just because its most often used in children's media and I mostly blame Disney for that because Disney is my arch-enemy.
Regardless, ATLA IS STILL DARK. IT'S STILL SUPER FUCKING DARK. The entire plot of the show and it’s themes center around really heavy topics like war, genocide, the rewriting of history, child abuse, oppression, deconstructing societal roles, the place of mercy in extreme circumstances, redemption, death and grief, trauma, and so so so much more ATLA was never subtle about its themes it just communicated them in a way that wasn’t overtly gore based and didn't have cussing.
Hell just look at Kyoshi she's literally documented as being ruthless in her persuit of peace, a foil to Aang and his ideals, and when you read her spin-off books you see why. Her childhood friend and crush who was raised under the false belief that he was the Avatar was fucking sacrificed in front of her face and later came back as a shambling husk of his former self that she had to put down like a rabid dog. She survived getting hit with lightning by a crime lord. She spent her early days as Avatar being hunted down by a man who raised her, who’s nickname was the Gravedigger because he buried his enemies alive after making them dig their own graves. That’s not even the full of it either. Kyoshi NEEDED to become ruthless to survive and you see that mindset in the Kyoshi Warriors and the Dai Li because those two groups are her legacy, she trained them, the darkness of her life bled over into that worldbuilding. When Aang asks her advice about Ozai she tells him to kill the bastard no questions asked because in her time hesitation on such things as mercy over justice is what got you killed.
I have so many thoughts about ATLA and it feels like many people miss the point. ATLA did not need to be given a “darker” medium to excel because it already excelled in its original one because live action is not adult media and animation is not child media and from what i’ve heard about the series it feels like the show forgot this is a story of children growing up in a hostile world that rests it’s fate on their shoulders.
The tone of the original show was childish despite it's incredibly dark themes and content because we were seeing the world through the eyes of Aang, Katara, and Sokka and later, Toph. Toph and Zuko's perspectives are way more jaded and darker because that's how they see the world and it's around when they become more involved we start seeing things with more weight than before. We don't need the show to be darker to be greater, it was great as it was because it was build on dark themes but did not let itself become drowned in them.
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