#closed species venting

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The main common denominator between species with dedicated vent blogs are staff and owners who shut down any and all feedback and criticism. Another commonality is being ban-happy against members for minor slights.

Wyngro isn’t as relevant now but in my opinion is a perfectly clear example of this. They made major decisions that upset the majority of their community, and instead of listening or compromising, they banned everyone who spoke out. This happened multiple times until the species inevitably lost its community entirely.

I see this echoed with Succubuns and Terraliens most, which are also the CS with the most active dedicated vent blogs.

If you run a species, and you’re afraid of having it come up on vent blogs? The biggest thing you can do is learn to take criticism well. Someone saying they think your species could use more FTO-friendly mechanics isn’t personally attacking you. Someone saying that MYO approvals are too nitpicky and inconsistent isn’t trying to insult you.

Obviously, sometimes, even species that do their best will end up on vent blogs if they piss off the wrong person, but in the end, pissing off one person who posts one vent or leaves your species individually is better than pissing off an entire community to the point where they make a whole dedicated blog to let out the criticism you refuse to accept face-to-face.

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Normally don’t talk here for personal reasons but yayy—- finally here

Holy fuck a small youtuber made a review on the cham mod team and THANK YOU 🙏

closed species are so dangerous for people who have manic-like symptoms (coming from someone who does)

I want to leave too but i love my cham so much. They’re genuinely one of my main ocs and i have so many friends there. With the hiatus (and how they’re still making adopts to sell for like 400 it’s insane) i’ve lost most hope in the community. I used to love seel’s work and i used to view them as one of my favourite artists. I remember looking at chams as a younger kiddo being like “i want one of those!” Now i just want out. I want out so bad but i don’t want to lose the genuine connections i have with people.

It’s so unfriendly to beginner artists and newer members to the “community” in general too.

Sorry for the long-ish rant, just needed to get stuff off my chest.

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cw: death, serious

just had perhaps the most fucked up experience in closed species ever, lads. artist died in the middle of completing my breeding. (lineart finished, colors not.) the other artists are of course trying to make it right by completing the breeding but frankly it's the least of my priorities right now. it's one thing for someone to leave a species but a whole different thing to know they're just... gone. look at the masterlist and see their characters still there. and it's fucked up that a community i am a part of has lost such a genuinely kind, funny and talented person.

please appreciate your artists, folks. they're humans too at the end of the day.

I’m so sorry to hear this anon.

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i love closed species but i feel like trying to participate in their communities has just made me more self-conscious about my autism. i feel like i come off like some sort of creepy orbiter in the few spaces i try to interact in when that isnt the case at all. my autism primarily impacts my abilities to communicate and make friends, so it just really hurts and really sucks when i get ignored or treated differently when i try to be nice and speak to people.

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i know some people saw it coming, but strudel cafe shutting down still sucks

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anon who dislikes gender variables in cs, I’m also non binary and I disagree. You can still identify as non binary regardless of your presentation or AGAB. Think outside the box, also. Maybe in the species males have horns, and females don’t. So, what if your trans or non binary character modifies their horns in some way, or if they don’t have them, they use prosthetics? It’s only a problem if the species restricts that freedom imo

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was recommended a CS a while back and i was nodding along with the rules until i was broadsided by one that was, paraphrased: "you're not allowed to make (species) characters evil." op if i'm paying you $50 for your glorified sparkledog i'm gonna do whatever i please with them, thanks. i'm gonna make them a d&d character totally unconnected to the species lore. i'm gonna cross that shit over with 12 other species. and i'm gonna make them steal candy from babies and small businesses.

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Frustrating seeing Succubun mods keep lying that the site take down was some "bad faith attack/grief attempt" when we have all the emails and proof it was their site domain taking them down for violating labor laws. They're so LUCKY that someone messaged the site domain for employment clarification in good faith because they could have EASILY been reported federally instead.

They could have feasibly told the truth too! Just said "oh woops, we changed the language of the work we promise, it doesnt technically fulfill all the requirements of employment" and simply explain it as an innocent misuse of language

Pure speculation, but the only reason I could imagine they would lie, is because the mods are still lying to their "employees" that they're "employed" to whatever way that benefits the mods.

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I Dislike Angemos with a true passion. Every time I thought I saw a cute biblically-accurate-angel character in Someone's profiles only to find out that it belongs to some uncreative specie meant to milk Pop-designers for every drop of Creativity they have.

Make your own angels, Bitches!!!! Don't pay ANY money to make humans with Head-wings!!!

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Scars should never be censored. You dont go up to someone irl with sh scars or ANY scars for that matter and ask them to cover up do you? As long as they're not depicted as open wounds, get over yourself.

Well someone else has the exact take i do I guess so no more hiding in the tags for me

I'm in agreement with this anon. I've EXPERIENCED the 'someone irl asking you to cover up' and it's completely awful. Scars should be normalized. People have them.

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(about the recent cham batch) people bidding $650 on a species thats been closed for way too long, and doesnt seem to be opening again anytime soon, is WILD

i hope these people realise what they are spending this insane amount of money on that they could spend elsewhere on something they would enjoy for longer. you could buy SO much with $650 but nah rather have a png of a dying species that will probably be traded away in a month

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Go ahead and make an offbrand succubun. Who's going to stop you? What are you copying? Demons? Rabbit kemonomimis? Shapeshifters? Honestly at this point everyone should be making their own demon rabbit shapeshifters. It's not like the species is original. I've seen dog + liquid CS more original than this.

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Does anyone else also have a problem of just losing interest in a CS in the moment u got a MYO/enough currency to buy a MYO?

There's been 2 CS that I've been that I wanted a MYO so much, and when I got a MYO/enough of the species currency to buy a MYO I completely lost interest on it

Seriously, how people get so many ocs and myos from cs without losing interest in the species?????

May be that you’re more interested in working towards it than actually having it/enjoy the collecting currency aspect? That’s understandable.

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In a pickle. I'm in a small CS that's theme centers around animals with water traits. Recently, the owner made an announcement that anyone in the species that is a part of other water traited CS will be kicked from the server.

This is a pretty small server and community. I'm really close friends with everyone else in the server but... I also dabble in other water based CSes outside of this species... thoughts? Help?

That’s COMPLETELY unreasonable. Water is a very common trait not just in CS but among OCs in general. I wouldn’t stay.

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leaving a closed species because it's driving me insane and making my mental health worse.

it's the fucking owner. the owner is genuinely incompetent. they do not have a clear rules page anywhere, for the designs, for any other things related to the species like pets or the world, how the traits work, anything. i broke several rules because i didn't fucking know about them. is this allowed? take a guess, buddy. or ask in the discord server that isn't linked anywhere and where they might not even fucking reply to your question anyway.

to be clear, this species is at least a year old. they have fucking had time. if they have time to make more traits and adopts they have the fucking time to write out a rules page and a design guide.

the community is good, i like the community, and they're the only people who seem to actually give a damn about the species since the owner clearly doesn't. so, i salute to the people who actually seem to give a shit about it. there isn't a damn thing to do with the characters since the owner is shit at running events too.

just going to take the characters i have and fuck off unless someone actually needs me, great that there's not even a damn masterlist because they can't do shit about it that way.

ugh. needed to get it all out of my system. thank you

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I feel like some people forget that some smaller species are passion projects and are not exactly MEANT to be a business. Some cs are just a person having fun. Not everything is meant to be a business, and not everybody is going to act professional all the time.

I dunno. As the co-owner of a very small species (Hoppurras), I can say for my case specifically that it was never intended to be a professional setting in any capacity. It was just my boyfriend doing a thing and making a species out of something in his story. If people wanted to join for the ride they could. I always help my boyfriend with his projects.

Can't remember where this rant was going. But some species are sometimes just fun passion projects. If they get big, great. If they don't, that's fine too.

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